History Literature / GuardiansOfTheFlame

24th May '17 9:47:39 PM Fireblood
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* NoDeadBodyPoops: Averted. Walter notes that after a battle, the whole area smells, as people usually void their bowels at death.

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* NoDeadBodyPoops: Averted. Walter notes that after a battle, the whole area smells, as people usually will mostly void their bowels at death.
24th May '17 9:46:30 PM Fireblood
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* NoDeadBodyPoops: Averted. Walter notes that after a battle, the whole area smells, as people usually void their bowels at death.
19th May '17 8:46:49 PM Fireblood
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: Big time. In the course of their quest to return to Earth, [[spoiler: two of the students are killed, two are raped (with one becoming catatonic), and all but one are captured by a slaver that they have to fight free of. And then they have to go back to resurrect one ... yes, that's right, just one ... of the fallen heroes and wake the catatonic one, with part of the price being Lou giving up magic, Karl agreeing to fight slavery for the rest of his life and Doria passing into the care of her clerical order for the forseeable future.]]

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* EarnYourHappyEnding: Big time. In the course of their quest to return to Earth, [[spoiler: two of the students are killed, two are raped (with one becoming catatonic), and all but one are captured by a slaver that they have to fight free of. And then they have to go back to resurrect one ... yes, that's right, just one ... of the fallen heroes and wake the catatonic one, with part of the price being Lou giving up magic, Karl agreeing to fight slavery for the rest of his life and Doria passing into the care of her clerical order for the forseeable foreseeable future.]]]]
* EngineeredPublicConfession: Karl manipulates one from the Prince of Bieme after he betrayed them to the Holts, causing his own guardsmen to turn on him in disgust (they were listening behind a curtain).


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* HeroicSuicide: Chak performs a {{suicide attack}} to detonate the enemy's powder store during a battle.
25th Apr '17 6:37:00 PM mantis
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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Joel Rosenberg died of a heart attack on June 2, 2011, at the age of 57.
25th Apr '17 6:35:38 PM mantis
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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Joel Rosenberg died of a heart attack on June 2, 2011, at the age of 57.
24th Feb '17 9:25:59 PM Fireblood
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* PsychicPowers: Dragons communicate via telepathy, using telekinesis to fly in conjunction with their wings, as they're too weak otherwise.
23rd Feb '17 6:53:50 PM Fireblood
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* ShoutOut: The game in the books is pretty obviously ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'', though the name is never used. In the story it was an invention of Professor Deighton based on the real parallel world they enter.
17th Feb '17 9:50:45 PM Fireblood
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* AutomatonHorses: {{Subverted}}. Ahira expects the horses will be galloped when they're struggling with new terrain, to get accustomed. Karl (as his character's the only one who knows about horses) immediately shoots it down, pointing out the horses can be killed doing that.

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* AutomatonHorses: {{Subverted}}. The horses don't take center stage, but they are mentioned as having different personalities which are sometimes incompatible with their riders. A scene in one book has the hero trimming the hooves of warhorses and re-shoeing them in preparation for a battle. Ahira expects that the horses will be galloped when they're struggling with new terrain, to get accustomed. Karl (as his character's the only one who knows about horses) immediately shoots it down, pointing out the horses can be killed doing that.
17th Feb '17 9:28:24 PM Fireblood
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* AutomatonHorses: {{Subverted}}. Ahira expects the horses will be galloped when they're struggling with new terrain, to get accustomed. Karl (as his character's the only one who knows about horses) immediately shoots it down, pointing out the horses can be killed doing that.



* OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame: Ahira, who pretty much follows the fantasy archetype [[spoiler: with the possible exception of his inability to swim, due to a racial density that is greater than humanity's]].

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* OurDwarvesAreAllTheSame: Ahira, who pretty much follows the fantasy archetype archetype. [[spoiler: with With the possible exception of his inability to swim, due to a racial density that is greater than humanity's]].
7th Feb '17 7:07:08 PM Fireblood
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* MontyHaul: {{Averted}}. The GM tries to give the characters a big pile of magic items at the start to make the quest a piece of cake, but a panicky Lou accidentally blows them up with a Lightning spell.
** Not quite his fault, he'd been told at the gaming table to prepare one 'just in case' due to the shift in starting points, suffered a head injury when they were transposed and just let loose with the lightning bolt due to his confusion.

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* MontyHaul: {{Averted}}. The GM tries to give the characters a big pile of magic items at the start to make the quest a piece of cake, but a panicky Lou accidentally blows them up with a Lightning spell.
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lightning spell. Not quite his fault, he'd been since he was told at the gaming table to prepare one 'just in case' due to the shift in starting points, suffered a head injury when they were transposed and just let loose with the lightning bolt due to his confusion.



* PrimeDirective: Utterly averted-at least in the first four books, none of the main band even stops to think if it's ethically or morally justified to introduce huge changes into the sociopolitical culture of another world[[note]] Of course considering that this is ''slavery'', it would likely be practiced for many more centuries on absent intervention and they did make an effort to establish a better system...[[/note]]. For example by them introducing guns, which triggers an arms race and trying to end slavery by violent attacks on slaver caravans rather than waiting to see if it comes about naturally as society evolves past the need for or permitting slavery. Not to mention setting up their own ''kingdom'', forever changing the geopolitical makeup of the world. Possibly {{justified}} by the fact that Arthur Deighton/Arta Myrdhyn had already seriously interfered (including fighting a massive magical duel that laid waste to an entire valley) though it's not made clear whether he's an earth or local native.
* RapeAsDrama: [[spoiler: After being captured by slavers, Doria the cleric and Andy-Andy the novice wizard are gang-raped. Doria, who already had [[DefiledForever issues in her past]] goes catatonic; her treatment by the Healing Hand is the beginning of her truly accepting her clerical status. Andy-Andy, meanwhile, helps Karl and Co. get even over the long run.]]

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* PrimeDirective: Utterly averted-at least in the first four books, none of the main band even stops to think if it's ethically or morally justified to introduce huge changes into the sociopolitical culture of another world[[note]] Of course considering that this is ''slavery'', it would likely be practiced for many more centuries on absent intervention and they did make an effort to establish a better system...[[/note]]. For example by them introducing guns, which triggers an arms race and trying to end slavery by violent attacks on slaver caravans rather than waiting to see if it comes about naturally as society evolves past the need for or permitting support of slavery. Not to mention setting up their own ''kingdom'', forever changing the geopolitical makeup of the world. Possibly {{justified}} by the fact that Arthur Deighton/Arta Myrdhyn had already seriously interfered (including fighting a massive magical duel that laid waste to an entire valley) though it's not made clear whether he's an earth or local native.
* RapeAsDrama: [[spoiler: After being captured by slavers, Doria the cleric and Andy-Andy the novice wizard are gang-raped. Doria, who already had [[DefiledForever issues in her past]] past]], goes catatonic; her treatment by the Healing Hand is the beginning of her truly accepting her clerical status. Andy-Andy, meanwhile, helps Karl and Co. get even over the long run.]]
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