History Literature / FromTheEarthToTheMoon

20th Jun '16 11:35:56 PM PaulA
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* [[TheMountainsOfIllinois The Mountains of Florida]]: Verne gets full marks for locating the launch site, he loses half of it for digging the gun into a hill much taller than the highest spot in the state.

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* [[TheMountainsOfIllinois The Mountains of Florida]]: TheMountainsOfIllinois: Although Verne gets full marks for locating the launch site, site in Florida, he loses half of it for digging the gun into a hill much taller than the highest spot in the state.
20th Jun '16 11:34:29 PM PaulA
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* ShownTheirWork: Verne went to great lengths to specify solid numbers to support the characters’ plan. There are also things that he predicted correctly, like the location the astronauts would launch from, the number of astronauts and, within a range of error, where they would land.
** There was one inaccuracy though: Verne assumed the price of aluminium in 1865 conditions to be $9 per pound ($19.8 per kg), which would have made the projectile the most expensive part of the entire project. In practice, aluminium in 1859-1865 conditions was worth more than $40 per kg (and this was a great step forward from the 1850-1855 level of technology, which made aluminium ''more expensive than gold''). At that particular step in time, there had been a wave of pro-aluminium enthusiasm in the French upper circles, it has been seen as the metal of the future and Emperor Napoleon III himself hoped the French Army could be equipped with lightweight armor made from it.
*** And then just 20 years later the electrolytic Hall–Héroult process was invented, which radically dropped the prices and made the aluminum to cost basically only about the price of electricity it is made with — today the cost of energy is ~40-50% of the overall cost of the primary aluminum, the ore extraction, purification, delivery and the end metal distribution taking the other half. So it's more the case of the [[TechMarchesOn Tech Not Marching On]] ''fast enough''.

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* ShownTheirWork: Verne went to great lengths to specify solid numbers to support the characters’ plan. There are also things that he plan.
** ''From Earth to the Moon'' has become somewhat famous for this, where Verne correctly
predicted correctly, like not only the location the astronauts would launch from, but the height and weight of the craft, the number of astronauts, and was accurate to being only about 2 and a half miles off from where the craft splashed down. Oh, and the projectile looks suspiciously like the command module. The book was popular with astronauts, and Yuri Gagarin read the Russian edition a lot.
** And in ''Around the Moon'', he predicted most of the activities the
astronauts and, within a range of error, where they would land.
do in 1969 (with the exception of Ardan spraying perfume everywhere) and, near the end, a prototype of satellite communication.
** There was one inaccuracy though: Verne assumed the price of aluminium in 1865 conditions to be $9 per pound ($19.8 per kg), which would have made the projectile the most expensive part of the entire project. In practice, aluminium in 1859-1865 conditions was worth more than $40 per kg (and this was a great step forward from the 1850-1855 level of technology, which made aluminium ''more expensive than gold''). At that particular step in time, there had been a wave of pro-aluminium enthusiasm in the French upper circles, it has been seen as the metal of the future and Emperor Napoleon III himself hoped the French Army could be equipped with lightweight armor made from it.
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it. And then just 20 years later the electrolytic Hall–Héroult process was invented, which radically dropped the prices and made the aluminum to cost basically only about the price of electricity it is made with — today the cost of energy is ~40-50% of the overall cost of the primary aluminum, the ore extraction, purification, delivery and the end metal distribution taking the other half. So it's more the case of the [[TechMarchesOn Tech Not Marching On]] ''fast enough''.
19th Aug '15 10:58:12 AM tropesinreadiness
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''From the Earth to the Moon'' was loosely adapted into the GeorgesMelies [[SilentFilms silent film]] ''Film/ATripToTheMoon'' (1903), which is regarded today as a milestone in the development of EarlyFilms.

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''From the Earth to the Moon'' was loosely adapted into the GeorgesMelies Creator/GeorgesMelies [[SilentFilms silent film]] ''Film/ATripToTheMoon'' (1903), which is regarded today as a milestone in the development of EarlyFilms.
17th Jul '15 6:15:47 AM Aquila89
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I think that without using citations, writing about such a controversial topic at length is a bad idea. In my opinion, the page should only give a brief, non-controversial summary of Nixon's political career and list his appearances in fiction.
17th Jul '15 6:15:28 AM Aquila89
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* AnArmAndALeg: Most of Gun-Club members have missing limbs, as they are Civil War veterans and worked with explosives.
-->Crutches, wooden legs, artificial arms, steel hooks, caoutchouc jaws, silver craniums, platinum noses, were all to be found in the collection; and it was calculated by the great statistician Pitcairn that throughout the Gun Club there was not quite one arm between four persons and two legs between six.
I think that without using citations, writing about such a controversial topic at length is a bad idea. In my opinion, the page should only give a brief, non-controversial summary of Nixon's political career and list his appearances in fiction.
26th Jun '15 6:56:08 AM Nautilus1
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* SpaceIsCold: Specifically, -140C, as measured by sticking an alcohol thermometer outside the projectile for a few hours. One of the more realistic depictions, as cooling isn't instant, and is only an issue when the astronauts are out of direct sunlight for a while.

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* SpaceIsCold: Specifically, -140C, -140ºC (-220ºF), as measured by sticking an alcohol thermometer outside the projectile for a few hours. One of the more realistic depictions, as cooling isn't instant, and is only an issue when the astronauts are out of direct sunlight for a while.
11th Jun '15 7:57:55 AM Willbyr
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* BiggerIsBetter: The Gun-Club really likes this trope, but none more that J. T. Maston, who envisions a gun half a mile long. [[Warhammer40K Da orks]] would be proud.

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* BiggerIsBetter: The Gun-Club really likes this trope, but none more that J. T. Maston, who envisions a gun half a mile long. [[Warhammer40K [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Da orks]] Orks]] would be proud.
26th May '15 4:45:39 PM kahlzun
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* UnknowRival: Averted: Nicholl and Barbicane are very much aware of each other's existence (see LensmanArmsRace), but they've never met in person thanks to mutual friends. The trope comes in full force when the end of the war prevents Nicholl's latest invention from being tested, he demands Barbicane shoot it from ever-shorter distances, but he refuses. Nicholl's final offer is to put his plate at twenty-five yards from the cannon and stand behind it, Barbicane answers that were Nicholl to stand in front of it, he wouldn't fire.

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* UnknowRival: UnknownRival: Averted: Nicholl and Barbicane are very much aware of each other's existence (see LensmanArmsRace), but they've never met in person thanks to mutual friends. The trope comes in full force when the end of the war prevents Nicholl's latest invention from being tested, he demands Barbicane shoot it from ever-shorter distances, but he refuses. Nicholl's final offer is to put his plate at twenty-five yards from the cannon and stand behind it, Barbicane answers that were Nicholl to stand in front of it, he wouldn't fire.
14th Apr '15 5:15:00 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Captain Nicholl, as Ardan and Maston find out the day of the duel.

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Captain Nicholl, as Ardan and Maston find out the day of the duel. He's a massive animal lover.



* SceneryPorn: ''Around the Moon'' contains loving, highly-detailed descriptions of the Moonscape the astronauts are passing over. Unfortunately, [[ScienceMarchesOn virtually every word of it is wrong]].

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* SceneryPorn: ''Around the Moon'' contains loving, highly-detailed descriptions of the Moonscape the astronauts are passing over. Unfortunately, [[ScienceMarchesOn virtually every word of it is wrong]].wrong.



* ScienceMarchesOn: Some of the facts are wrong, but you can’t blame Verne for not knowing something that nobody else knew. ''Around the Moon'' in particular suffers from this, considering the book is mostly about three people discussing the moon and the space around them.
* ShownTheirWork: Verne went to great lenghs to specify solid numbers to support the characters’ plan. There are also things that he predicted correctly, like the location the astronauts would launch from, the number of astronauts and, within a range of error, where they would land.

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* ScienceMarchesOn: Some of the facts are wrong, but you can’t blame Verne for not knowing something that nobody else knew. ''Around the Moon'' in particular suffers from this, considering the book is mostly about three people discussing the moon and the space around them.
* ShownTheirWork: Verne went to great lenghs lengths to specify solid numbers to support the characters’ plan. There are also things that he predicted correctly, like the location the astronauts would launch from, the number of astronauts and, within a range of error, where they would land.



* WriteWhoYouKnow: Michel Ardan is based on a Verne's close friend Gaspard-Félix Tournachon, a famous photographer, journalist and aeronautics enthusiast, better known as [[SignificantAnagram Nadar]].
** Ironically, in the sequel Ardan mentions Nadar as a model that the moonmen may have had a copy of.

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* WriteWhoYouKnow: Michel Ardan is based on a Verne's close friend Gaspard-Félix Tournachon, a famous photographer, journalist and aeronautics enthusiast, better known as [[SignificantAnagram Nadar]].
** Ironically, in the sequel Ardan mentions Nadar as a model that the moonmen may have had a copy of.
21st Dec '14 10:08:07 AM Chabal2
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* BatmanCanBreatheInSpace: Michael Ardan is asked whether it is not foolish, since there is little or no air on the Moon? "Then I will only breathe on special occasions!" he quips.

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* BatmanCanBreatheInSpace: Michael Ardan is asked whether it the project is not foolish, since there is little or no air on the Moon? Moon. "Then I will only breathe on special occasions!" he quips.quips.
* BiggerIsBetter: The Gun-Club really likes this trope, but none more that J. T. Maston, who envisions a gun half a mile long. [[Warhammer40K Da orks]] would be proud.



--> '''J. T. Maston''' (upon hearing the Moon Gun should be a reasonable 225ft long): ''"Ridiculous! As well take a pistol." ''
* HookHand: J. T. Maston, due to him being a Civil War veteran. [[WordOfGod The given explanation]] is he lost the hand and got a horrible head wound (which he covers with a guttapercha skullcap) when [[HoistByHisOwnPetard a giant mortar he designed exploded at first shot]] killing 375 men an disabling even more.
** All but one member of the gun club are missing a limb or two. They work with explosives all the time, pre-TNT and pre-computers.

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--> '''J. T. Maston''' (upon hearing the Moon Gun should be a reasonable 225ft long): ''"Ridiculous! As Might as well take a pistol." ''
* HookHand: J. T. Maston, due to him being a Civil War veteran. [[WordOfGod The given explanation]] is he lost the hand and got a horrible head wound (which he covers with a guttapercha skullcap) when [[HoistByHisOwnPetard a giant mortar he designed exploded at first shot]] killing 375 men an and disabling even more.
** All but one member of the gun club (its president) are missing a limb or two. They work with explosives all the time, pre-TNT and pre-computers.


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* LensmanArmsRace: The reason for Nicholl and Barbicane's rivalry: The former makes armor plating, the latter designs cannons. So of course each man's product is tested on the other's, and the end of the war means the question remains unresolved.


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* UnknowRival: Averted: Nicholl and Barbicane are very much aware of each other's existence (see LensmanArmsRace), but they've never met in person thanks to mutual friends. The trope comes in full force when the end of the war prevents Nicholl's latest invention from being tested, he demands Barbicane shoot it from ever-shorter distances, but he refuses. Nicholl's final offer is to put his plate at twenty-five yards from the cannon and stand behind it, Barbicane answers that were Nicholl to stand in front of it, he wouldn't fire.
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