History Literature / Foundation

10th Sep '17 5:28:10 AM ImpudentInfidel
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* NoEnding: As noted above, Asimov couldn't come up with an ending to the series, so he wrote prequels instead. The story takes us only about halfway through the promised thousand years before society is put back on track.

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* NoEnding: As noted above, Asimov couldn't come up with an ending to the series, so he wrote prequels instead. The story takes us only about halfway through the promised thousand years before society is put back on track. [[spoiler: The thousand year plan had gone completely off the rails and been rendered irrelevant by Galaxia assimilating the galaxy in any case.]]
18th Aug '17 11:19:06 AM Omeganian
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* PoorCommunicationKills: The Second Foundation has many urban legends about the importance of properly communicating in a report. The best known (and the one least likely to be true) says that the first report about the Mule was ignored because, due to some mistake, it was understood to be a report about ''a'' mule, leading to a very costly delay in response.
17th Aug '17 7:56:38 PM zzedar
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* RecycledInSpace: The whole story is based on the decline and fall of the Roman Empire [[AC:In Space]], but parts are taken from other influences. Namely, the Empire in ''Foundation and Empire'' is based on the Byzantine Empire (Cleon II is Justinian I and Bel Riose is Bellisarius), [[spoiler:the Mule]] is Napoleon, and it could be argued that the Foundation is the United States in ''Foundation's Edge'' and ''Foundation and Earth.'' "The Merchants" in the original ''Foundation'' novel is based on the manifest destiny philosophy.

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* RecycledInSpace: The whole story is based on the decline and fall of the Roman Empire [[AC:In Space]], but parts are taken from other influences. Namely, the Empire in ''Foundation and Empire'' is based on the Byzantine Empire (Cleon II is Justinian I and Bel Riose is Bellisarius), [[spoiler:the Mule]] is Napoleon, Charlemagne mixed with Tamurlane, and it could be argued that the Foundation is the United States in ''Foundation's Edge'' and ''Foundation and Earth.'' "The Merchants" in the original ''Foundation'' novel is based on the manifest destiny philosophy.
17th Aug '17 7:53:31 PM zzedar
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* RecycledInSpace: The whole story is based on the decline and fall of the Roman Empire [[AC:In Space]], but parts are taken from other influences. Namely, the Empire in ''Foundation and Empire'' is based on the Byzantine Empire (Cleon II is Justinian I and Bel Riose is Bellisarius), [[spoiler:the Mule]] is Charlemagne mixed with Tamurlane, and it could be argued that the Foundation is the United States in ''Foundation's Edge'' and ''Foundation and Earth.'' "The Merchants" in the original ''Foundation'' novel is based on the manifest destiny philosophy.

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* RecycledInSpace: The whole story is based on the decline and fall of the Roman Empire [[AC:In Space]], but parts are taken from other influences. Namely, the Empire in ''Foundation and Empire'' is based on the Byzantine Empire (Cleon II is Justinian I and Bel Riose is Bellisarius), [[spoiler:the Mule]] is Charlemagne mixed with Tamurlane, Napoleon, and it could be argued that the Foundation is the United States in ''Foundation's Edge'' and ''Foundation and Earth.'' "The Merchants" in the original ''Foundation'' novel is based on the manifest destiny philosophy.
18th Jul '17 12:08:44 PM LeeM
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As far as adaptations are concerned, back in the 70s, Creator/TheBBC did a Radio Drama adaptation which can be found on the [[http://www.archive.org/details/IsaacAsimov-TheFoundationTrilogy Internet Archive]]. Apparently, at one point Creator/RolandEmmerich, of all people, was planning on making a film trilogy out of the first three books, but the project fell into DevelopmentHell and never came out.

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As far as adaptations are concerned, back in the 70s, Creator/TheBBC did a Radio Drama adaptation which can be found on the [[http://www.archive.org/details/IsaacAsimov-TheFoundationTrilogy Internet Archive]].Archive]][[note]]although taken from off-air recordings with poor sound quality[[/note]]. Apparently, at one point Creator/RolandEmmerich, of all people, was planning on making a film trilogy out of the first three books, but the project fell into DevelopmentHell and never came out.
7th Jul '17 4:58:51 PM zzedar
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* EvilCannotComprehendGood: Joranum is baffled that Demerzel spends his time trying to keep the citizens of the provinces happy, when it's only on Trantor that a rebellion would be dangerous to Demerzel's power.
1st Jul '17 3:01:29 PM nombretomado
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* FictionalDocument: The Encyclopedia Galactica. By ''Foundation's Edge'', Golan Trevise mentions it is now a continually updated computer archive; this was long before TheOtherWiki (or even its predecessors, such as Encarta or Encyclopedia Britannica Online).

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* FictionalDocument: The Encyclopedia Galactica. By ''Foundation's Edge'', Golan Trevise mentions it is now a continually updated computer archive; this was long before TheOtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki (or even its predecessors, such as Encarta or Encyclopedia Britannica Online).
10th Jun '17 9:17:46 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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Then in 2014, [[http://www.thewrap.com/interstellars-jonah-nolan-developing-foundation-series-for-hbo-wbtv-exclusive/ it was announced]] that HBO was developing it as a TV series.

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Then in 2014, [[http://www.thewrap.com/interstellars-jonah-nolan-developing-foundation-series-for-hbo-wbtv-exclusive/ it was announced]] that HBO Creator/{{HBO}} was developing it as a TV series.



* AllTheOtherReindeer: [[spoiler:Why the Mule wanted to take over the galaxy]].

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* AllTheOtherReindeer: AllOfTheOtherReindeer: [[spoiler:Why the Mule wanted to take over the galaxy]].
10th Jun '17 9:16:07 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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As far as adaptations are concerned, back in the 70s, the BBC did a Radio Drama adaptation which can be found on the [[http://www.archive.org/details/IsaacAsimov-TheFoundationTrilogy Internet Archive.]] Apparently, at one point Creator/RolandEmmerich, of all people, was planning on making a film trilogy out of the first three books, but the project fell into DevelopmentHell and never came out.

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As far as adaptations are concerned, back in the 70s, the BBC Creator/TheBBC did a Radio Drama adaptation which can be found on the [[http://www.archive.org/details/IsaacAsimov-TheFoundationTrilogy Internet Archive.]] Archive]]. Apparently, at one point Creator/RolandEmmerich, of all people, was planning on making a film trilogy out of the first three books, but the project fell into DevelopmentHell and never came out.
6th May '17 10:11:14 PM SamuraiMarmoset
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** Han Pritcher during ''Search By The Mule''. Once a member of Terminus' democratic underground dedicated to toppling the authoritarian rule of the Indbur Mayors by working as a DoubleAgent from within the regime's intelligence bureau, he later becomes a rebel fighting against the Mule after his forces capture and occupy Terminus itself. Unfortunately, in an attempt to blow up the Mule's palace, he is caught, and brought to the Mule to be Converted, turning him from a rebel into a loyal Mule's Man, who five years later has become the top general and right-hand man of the dictator he had once rebelled against. [[spoiler: He briefly becomes himself again during the MexicanStandOff between Bail Channis and the Mule at the climax of the story when Bail undoes his Conversion, but it doesn't last and Pritcher ends his life unsuccessfully trying to keep the Mule's Union of Worlds together after his master's death.]]



* BiggerBad: The Mule casts a long shadow over the later stories, even two centuries after his death, because his appearance on the Galactic stage so completely shattered the Seldon Plan, it becomes something of a question mark if the Plan is even still functional afterwards. [[spoiler: It is, thanks to the XanatosSpeedChess and GambitRoulette pulled off by the Second Foundation to get the Plan back on track, but that's not common knowledge.]]



* TheDragon: Han Pritcher to the Mule by the time of Search By The Mule, after having been Converted during the previous story, becoming his second-in-command and best general. [[spoiler: But only as long as the Conversion remains in place; when it's undone by Second Foundation mentalists, Pritcher has to be immediately restrained to prevent the former rebel from immediately killing his master.]] Mention is made in the later stories that after the Mule's death, Pritcher briefly became a DragonAscendant trying to keep the Mule's Union of Worlds intact, but was unsuccessful.
* DyingAlone: A major theme of the final Asimov-penned Foundation story, ''Forward the Foundation'', which chronicles the second half of Hari Seldon's life leading up to his creation of the Plan, is the loss of everyone close to him. [[spoiler: His wife, Dors Venabili is targeted by an anti-robot weapon and killed, his foster-son Raych dies during a riot on another planet, and his daughter-in-law and grandson disappear when the ship they take to a supposed safe haven just vanishes without a trace. By the end, the only person Hari has left in his life is his granddaughter Wanda, but they are still separated as she and the other founding members of the Second Foundation are required by the Plan to go into seclusion, and thus he never sees her again before his death.]] However, while he may die alone, Hari also dies content in the knowledge that the future is safeguarded.



* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Emperor Agis XIV, who later befriends Hari Seldon in ''Forward the Foundation.''

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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: Emperor Agis Argis XIV, who later befriends Hari Seldon in ''Forward the Foundation.''


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** Another one comes after Han Pritcher is caught and brought before the Mule's viceroy, who makes Pritcher realize that like it or not, he will be made to willingly serve the Mule, because the Viceroy was as well. To whit, Pritcher's line when he realizes just who the Viceroy is, or was, before the Mule. [[spoiler: "You were the warlord of Kalgan."]]


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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Used as plot points near the end of ''Forward the Foundation''; Seldon puts his daughter-in-law and her young grandson on a ship to take them off Trantor to another world where they and their descendants will be safe, with only his granddaughter Wanda staying behind. Their transport takes off, but never arrives at its destination. Whether the ship suffered some sort of mechanical failure, crashed, or was waylaid by space pirates is never discovered; the ship simply vanishes without a trace. At the same time, the reigning emperor Argis XIV, a JerkWithAHeartOfGold who never actually wanted the position and was only a very distant relative of the last emperor Cleon I, is quietly removed from power by Linge Chen and the Commission For Public Safety, and replaced with a boy emperor they can more easily control and who is much less friendly to Hari because of this. Whether Argis was quietly retired off-planet or murdered is never discovered, by either Hari or the readers.
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