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23rd Jun '17 3:48:05 PM infernape612
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* ButWhatAboutTheAstronauts: more-or-less the premise of the whole series, if you substitute "colonists" for "astronauts".

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* ButWhatAboutTheAstronauts: more-or-less More-or-less the premise of the whole series, if you substitute "colonists" for "astronauts".



* NoNudityTaboo: more due to obsolescence (sealed environments) than anything else. Most people still wear something as a means of personal expression or badge of office - otherwise how could you tell who's working from who's not? TheissTitillationTheory plays a hand as well; if everyone is nude, nudity is boring. For example, when Cricket is introduced in ''Steel Beach'' she's nude except for a blouse and a newspaper guildsman's fedora, and she mainly wore the blouse because she knew it would catch Hildy's eye better than nudity would.

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* NoNudityTaboo: more More due to obsolescence (sealed environments) than anything else. Most people still wear something as a means of personal expression or badge of office - otherwise how could you tell who's working from who's not? TheissTitillationTheory plays a hand as well; if everyone is nude, nudity is boring. For example, when Cricket is introduced in ''Steel Beach'' she's nude except for a blouse and a newspaper guildsman's fedora, and she mainly wore the blouse because she knew it would catch Hildy's eye better than nudity would.



* OurNudityIsDifferent: Hildy points out that even though nudity is entirely practical in Luna's artificial environments most people still wear some clothing, primarily as a means of personal expression. For instance, when Hildy's friend Cricket is introduced wearing only a blouse and a hat. Many professions, guilds and unions have distinctive uniforms with varying degrees of formality--otherwise it's hard to tell who is working and who isn't, as some "professions" (like the Hod Carriers) involve nothing more than wearing the uniform while standing around. At least One cult ("The Barbies") rejects clothing entirely exactly because it is a means of personal expression.
* OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions: Played with. Getting kicked off of earth by alien invaders pretty much put the kibosh on most traditional human-centric religions, but people just went on to create a bunch of new religions anyway, including ones that worship the invaders, gluttony, or, in the case of the flacks, fame.

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* OurNudityIsDifferent: Hildy points out that even though nudity is entirely practical in Luna's artificial environments most people still wear some clothing, primarily as a means of personal expression. For instance, when Hildy's friend Cricket is introduced wearing only a blouse and a hat. Many professions, guilds and unions have distinctive uniforms with varying degrees of formality--otherwise it's hard to tell who is working and who isn't, as some "professions" (like the Hod Carriers) involve nothing more than wearing the uniform while standing around. At least One one cult ("The Barbies") rejects clothing entirely exactly because it is a means of personal expression.
* OutgrownSuchSillySuperstitions: Played with. Getting kicked off of earth Earth by alien invaders pretty much put the kibosh on most traditional human-centric religions, but people just went on to create a bunch of new religions anyway, including ones that worship the invaders, gluttony, or, in the case of the flacks, fame.



* SecondLawOfGenderBending: rendered irrelevant by EasySexChange.

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* SecondLawOfGenderBending: rendered Rendered irrelevant by EasySexChange.



* Transexual: common via EasySexChange. Or, from the character's perspective ''uncommon'' due to EasySexChange: the very concept has become obsolete since the changes are complete and the "transition" takes a couple of hours at most.
* TrulySingleParent: although it's technically illegal, it's a recurring theme:

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* Transexual: common {{Transexual}}: Common via EasySexChange. Or, from the character's perspective ''uncommon'' due to EasySexChange: the very concept has become obsolete since the changes are complete and the "transition" takes a couple of hours at most.
* TrulySingleParent: although Although it's technically illegal, it's a recurring theme:
23rd Jun '17 3:44:31 PM infernape612
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** preventing this drives the plot of "Film/OverdrawnAtTheMemoryBank".
** a pain fetishist assassin is quickly driven insane by a paralytic toxin that deadens all sensation except sight and sound in ''Literature/TheGoldenGlobe''.

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** preventing Preventing this drives the plot of "Film/OverdrawnAtTheMemoryBank".
** a A pain fetishist assassin is quickly driven insane by a paralytic toxin that deadens all sensation except sight and sound in ''Literature/TheGoldenGlobe''.



* {{Asexual}} a recognized orientation bound to be mentioned any time Varley introduces a character without apparent genitals. For example, Hildy briefly wonders what her apprentice Brenda's lack of genitalia implies before concluding that it's none of her business. Boss Tweed, a character in Ophiuchi Hotline who actually is asexual, retains false genitalia specifically to head off this sort of speculation.

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* {{Asexual}} a {{Asexual}}: A recognized orientation bound to be mentioned any time Varley introduces a character without apparent genitals. For example, Hildy briefly wonders what her apprentice Brenda's lack of genitalia implies before concluding that it's none of her business. Boss Tweed, a character in Ophiuchi Hotline who actually is asexual, retains false genitalia specifically to head off this sort of speculation.
1st Feb '17 3:05:08 PM Wyldchyld
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** One character in ''The Ophiuchi Hotline'' is a spacer who has used MagicPlasticSurgery to [[{{Transhuman}} modify her body until she's literally just a cylinder with an arm on each end.]] Varley's protagonist gives her credit for coming up with a very creative solution for the question of where a crotchless woman would keep her genitals but Varley (perhaps wisely) [[FetishFuel doesn't specify what that solution was.]]

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** One character in ''The Ophiuchi Hotline'' is a spacer who has used MagicPlasticSurgery to [[{{Transhuman}} modify her body until she's literally just a cylinder with an arm on each end.]] Varley's protagonist gives her credit for coming up with a very creative solution for the question of where a crotchless woman would keep her genitals but Varley (perhaps wisely) [[FetishFuel doesn't specify what that solution was.]]
16th Nov '16 9:56:05 AM facet
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** In ''Steel Beach'': Opening line: "'In five years, the penis will be obsolete' said the salesman." This subsequent pitch is mostly ignored by the protagonist, since exotic replacement equipment is so mundane advertisers announce the "sexual millenium" on a regular basis.

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** In ''Steel Beach'': Opening line: "'In five years, the penis will be obsolete' said the salesman." This subsequent pitch is mostly ignored by the protagonist, since exotic replacement equipment is so mundane advertisers announce the "sexual millenium" millennium" on a regular basis.
12th Aug '16 4:14:15 AM JustKnown
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* TerminallyDependentSociety: Without access to Earth, society is fragile and very dependent on technology. In ''Steel Beach'', when the Central Computer (CC) [[AIIsACrapshoot goes insane]], they realize just how dependent they are.
* ThirdLawOfGenderBending: Despite being a serial GenderBender herself, Hildy Johnson, in ''Steel Beach'', insists that there are still "girl things" and "boy things" when it comes to dress and behavior, because otherwise there would be little point in changing gender in the first place. This serves to underscore that EasySexChange has become so easy in Hildy's world (you can get a sex change in a beauty shop or a tattoo parlor) that some people are willing to change sex just to facilitate a relationship or even just to suit their clothes.

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* TerminallyDependentSociety: Without access to Earth, society is fragile and very dependent on technology. In ''Steel Beach'', when the Central Computer (CC) [[AIIsACrapshoot goes insane]], they realize just how dependent they are.
are. Even the title ''Steel Beach'' is a metaphoric reference to the problem humanity faces trying to create and expand a society where they're dependent upon technology for everything right down to the air they breath.
* ThirdLawOfGenderBending: Despite being a serial GenderBender herself, Hildy Johnson, Johnson insists in ''Steel Beach'', insists Beach'' that there are still "girl things" and "boy things" when it comes to dress and behavior, because otherwise there would be little point in changing gender in the first place. This serves to underscore that EasySexChange has become so easy in Hildy's world (you can get a sex change in a beauty shop or a tattoo parlor) that some people are willing to change sex just to facilitate a relationship or even just to suit their clothes.



* UnreliableCanon: The novels in the series frequently contradict each other when it comes to matters that could be called canon. Varley has admitted that he doesn't like going back to re-read his old works, and doesn't really care about the overall canon.

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* UnreliableCanon: The novels in the series frequently contradict each other when it comes to matters that could be called canon. Varley has admitted that he doesn't like going back to re-read his old works, and doesn't really care about the overall canon. He even prefaced ''The Golden Globe'' with a "Declaration of Independence" from Canon. It's not the canon itself he objects to, it's keeping track of (and limiting himself to) all of the picky details required to maintain a consistent timeline for a true "future history".
14th Mar '16 6:29:47 PM JustKnown
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* NoNudityTaboo: more due to obsolescence (sealed environments) than anything else. Most people still wear something (even if it's just a hat or a blouse) as a means of personal expression. TheissTitillationTheoryNudity plays a hand as well; if everyone is nude, nudity is boring.

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* NoNudityTaboo: more due to obsolescence (sealed environments) than anything else. Most people still wear something (even if it's just a hat or a blouse) as a means of personal expression. TheissTitillationTheoryNudity expression or badge of office - otherwise how could you tell who's working from who's not? TheissTitillationTheory plays a hand as well; if everyone is nude, nudity is boring.boring. For example, when Cricket is introduced in ''Steel Beach'' she's nude except for a blouse and a newspaper guildsman's fedora, and she mainly wore the blouse because she knew it would catch Hildy's eye better than nudity would.



* PornWithPlot: Parodied in ''The Golden Globe'', where the audience expects graphic sex scenes in all media, leading to the actor protagonist performing a very... interesting... version of the balcony scene from Shakespeare's ''Romeo and Juliet''.

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* PornWithPlot: Parodied in ''The Golden Globe'', where the audience expects Globe'': most audiences expect graphic sex scenes in all media, leading to the actor protagonist performing a very... interesting... version of the balcony scene from Shakespeare's ''Romeo and Juliet''.
14th Mar '16 4:35:05 AM JustKnown
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* NoNudityTaboo: more due to obsolescence (sealed environments) than anything else. Most people still wear something (even if it's just a hat or a blouse) as a means of personal expression. TheisseTitillationTheoryNudity plays a hand as well; if everyone is nude, nudity is boring.

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* NoNudityTaboo: more due to obsolescence (sealed environments) than anything else. Most people still wear something (even if it's just a hat or a blouse) as a means of personal expression. TheisseTitillationTheoryNudity TheissTitillationTheoryNudity plays a hand as well; if everyone is nude, nudity is boring.
14th Mar '16 4:33:51 AM JustKnown
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* NoNudityTaboo: more due to obsolescence (sealed environments) than anything else.

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* NoNudityTaboo: more due to obsolescence (sealed environments) than anything else. Most people still wear something (even if it's just a hat or a blouse) as a means of personal expression. TheisseTitillationTheoryNudity plays a hand as well; if everyone is nude, nudity is boring.
1st Jan '16 8:10:44 AM tricksterson
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* BlueAndOrangeMorality: As far as can be deciphered the aliens kicked out humanity because they are telepathic and incapable of recognizing non-telepaths as sentient. Since they have since restored the Earth's ecology to a pristine condition they may have considered us some type of infection.
21st Oct '15 11:05:23 AM Morgenthaler
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** ''OverdrawnAtTheMemoryBank'' (and its infamous film adaptation) has a man whose consciousness is loaded into a computer to keep him alive after his body is misplaced.

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** ''OverdrawnAtTheMemoryBank'' ''Film/OverdrawnAtTheMemoryBank'' (and its infamous film adaptation) has a man whose consciousness is loaded into a computer to keep him alive after his body is misplaced.
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