History Literature / Destroyermen

1st Feb '16 9:17:31 PM HashiriyaR32
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* HistoricalInJoke: When the ''Walker'' faces off against the ''Hidoiame'', the former tries to bluff the latter by identifying herself as a cruiser (which fails). At pretty much the same time as ''Walker''. ''Mahan'', ''Pope'', and the two Royal Navy vessels were battling the ''Amagi'' during the Battle of the Java Sea, one of their Clemson-class cousins, the [=USS=] ''Edsall'', was taking on multiple [=IJN=] surface vessels south of the island of Java, having been misidentified as a ''Marblehead''-class cruiser (The [=USS=] ''Marblehead'' is an Omaha-class light cruiser).
25th Jan '16 11:57:21 AM Morgenthaler
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* ImperialJapan: ** They're prominent in the opening of ''Into The Storm''. ** [[spoiler: HIJMS ''Amagi'' makes an appearance, captained by [[AxCrazy Hisashi Kurokawa.]]]] ** In ''Firestorm'', [[spoiler:a modern (by the book's timeline) Japanese destroyer also crosses over with a crew ready to kill and [[IAmAHumanitarian eat]] their Allied prisoners]].
1st Jan '16 11:34:40 AM Mitchz95
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''Destroyermen'' is an AlternateHistory series by Taylor Anderson. There are currently ten books: ''Into the Storm'', ''Crusade'', ''Maelstrom'', ''Distant Thunders'', ''Rising Tides'', ''Firestorm'', ''Iron Gray Sea'', ''Storm Surge'', ''Deadly Shores'', and ''Straits of Hell''. It centers around the crew of USS ''Walker'', a [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo World War II]] destroyer who are catapulted to an alternate world after [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Java_Sea a disastrous Allied defeat]] at Java. The new world is right out of prehistory: dinosaurs roam the lands, and the oceans are home to swarms of man-eating fish and giant reptiles. They've also gone from one war to another, for here two very different species have just started up a fight for survival again after several thousand years. On the one side are the Lemurians, (or 'Cats, as the Americans call them) lemur-like sea-goers who have lived a rather peaceful existence until now. On the other side are the Grik, savage raptor-like reptiles hell-bent on hunting the 'Cats to extinction.
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''Destroyermen'' is an AlternateHistory series by Taylor Anderson. There are currently ten books: ''Into the Storm'', ''Crusade'', ''Maelstrom'', ''Distant Thunders'', ''Rising Tides'', ''Firestorm'', ''Iron Gray Sea'', ''Storm Surge'', ''Deadly Shores'', and ''Straits of Hell''. It Hell''. An eleventh book, ''Blood in the Water'', is due to come out in June 2016. The series centers around the crew of USS ''Walker'', a [[UsefulNotes/WorldWarTwo World War II]] destroyer who are catapulted to an alternate world after [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Java_Sea a disastrous Allied defeat]] at Java. The new world is right out of prehistory: dinosaurs roam the lands, and the oceans are home to swarms of man-eating fish and giant reptiles. They've also gone from one war to another, for here two very different species have just started up a fight for survival again after several thousand years. On the one side are the Lemurians, (or 'Cats, as the Americans call them) lemur-like sea-goers who have lived a rather peaceful existence until now. On the other side are the Grik, savage raptor-like reptiles hell-bent on hunting the 'Cats to extinction.
6th Dec '15 7:05:19 PM YT45
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* JerkAssFacade: Commander Simon Herring. After being recovered by the Alliance, he immediately tries to usurp power from Reddy, since he, technically, outranks him (Reddy's official rank is Lieutenant Commander, below a full Commander). However, Herring is hardly a commanding officer material, having been a Naval Intelligence operative in our world. Plus, no one even considers replacing Reddy with Herring. Eventually, he mellows out, after realizing that Reddy is definitely much more suited for command, and is made the Chief of Strategic Intelligence, his preferred field. Eventually, he grows to admire Reddy almost to the point of hero worship. [[spoiler:He is mortally wounded during a battle on Madagascar and fails to tell Reddy some critical information before expiring]].
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* JerkAssFacade: Commander Simon Herring. After being recovered by the Alliance, he immediately tries to usurp power from Reddy, since he, technically, outranks him (Reddy's official rank is Lieutenant Commander, below a full Commander). However, Herring is hardly a commanding officer material, having been a Naval Intelligence operative officer in our world. Plus, no one even considers replacing Reddy with Herring. Eventually, he mellows out, after realizing that Reddy is definitely much more suited for command, and is made the Chief of Strategic Intelligence, which is his preferred field.field anyway. Eventually, he grows to admire Reddy almost to the point of hero worship. [[spoiler:He is mortally wounded during a battle on Madagascar and fails to tell Reddy some critical information before expiring]].

* KillHimAlready: Most recently with Reddy and [[spoiler: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Harrison Reed]], where Reddy shoots him after he puts his gun down.]] * KrakenAndLeviathan: Among the sea creatures in this world is the "mountain fish" (apparently actually a whale), so big it can wreck a steamship -- by '''biting''' it. At one point, it's stated that the locals' massive city-ships known as "Homes" are '''almost''' as big as mountain fish -- and a Home is the size of an [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essex_class_aircraft_carrier Essex-class aircraft carrier]]. And that's the ''average'' sized mountain fish... they do come in bigger sizes. The Imperials actually call them Leviathans.
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* KillHimAlready: Most recently with Reddy and [[spoiler: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Sir Harrison Reed]], where Reddy shoots him after he puts his gun down.]] * KrakenAndLeviathan: Among the sea creatures in this world is the "mountain fish" (apparently actually a kind of enormous whale), so big it can wreck a steamship -- by '''biting''' it. At one point, it's stated that the locals' massive city-ships known as "Homes" are '''almost''' as big as mountain fish -- and a Home is the size of an [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essex_class_aircraft_carrier Essex-class aircraft carrier]]. And that's the ''average'' sized mountain fish... they do come in bigger sizes. The Imperials actually call them Leviathans.

* MedievalStasis: The Grik and Lemurians were in stasis for centuries. Due to a stratified guild system, the last time the Lemurians advanced much technologically was to escape the Grik by developing sea travel. The Grik meanwhile are technological locusts that don't innovate on their own, but are very good at reverse-engineering stuff. Somewhat less so with the island Lemurians who were entering the Iron Age when the ''Walker'' appeared, while the seagoing Lemurians were still in the Bronze. [[HumansAreSpecial It's only the arrival of humans that enables either side to break the stasis.]] However, just 2 years after the arrival of the ''Walker'', [[spoiler: the Lemurians are making near-identical copies of the ship]]. That's a huge leap. ** Zigzagged with The Empire of New Britain, which is improving but at a very slow rate. This is lampshaded in ''Maelstrom'' when it's observed that they still use muskets.
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* MedievalStasis: The Grik and Lemurians were in stasis for centuries. Due to a stratified guild system, the last time the Lemurians advanced much technologically was to escape the Grik by developing sea travel. The Grik meanwhile are technological locusts that don't innovate on their own, but are very good at reverse-engineering stuff. Somewhat less so with the island Lemurians who were entering the Iron Age when the ''Walker'' appeared, while the seagoing Lemurians were still in the Bronze. [[HumansAreSpecial It's only the arrival of humans that enables either side to break the stasis.]] However, just 2 years after the arrival of the ''Walker'', [[spoiler: the Lemurians are making near-identical copies of the ship]].ship, as well as cannons, airplanes, radios, and automatic weapons]]. That's a huge leap. ** Zigzagged with The Empire of New Britain, which is improving but at a very slow rate. This is lampshaded in ''Maelstrom'' when it's observed that they still use muskets. Their ancestors crossed over in the 1740s, and have advanced to a roughly 1840s-level on their own, having independently developed steam engines.
6th Dec '15 6:31:44 PM YT45
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** As explained in the afterword to the first book, the ''Amagi'' depicted was badly damaged by an earthquake while under construction and scrapped in 1922. (There ''was'' an ''Amagi'' that served in WWII, but it was a carrier.) The real USS ''Walker'' was scuttled seventeen days after Pearl Harbor, while the ''Mahan'' was scrapped in 1931. *** Many ''Wickes'' class destroyers saw action throughout WWII. The USS ''Ward'', the ship that fired the first shots at Pearl Harbor, was a sister ship of the ''Mahan'' and ''Walker''. *** In-universe, the ''Amagi'' was completed as planned, except with her main battery being downgraded to 10-inch guns, likely to exploit some loophole in the Washington Naval Treaty. This armament is not quite up to battleship standards, but still much more powerful than any contemporary cruiser. ** This continues when a more modern Japanese destroyer crosses over, the HIMS ''Hidoiame'' described as the 20th of the ''Kagerō'' class. In RealLife, there were only 19 destroyers of that class, although three ships were also listed on the roster but served as the dummy budget for ''Yamato''-class battleships. Possibly, in this 'verse, one of these really was built as a destroyer. ** Ditto for the USS ''S-19''. In our history, the submarine was decommissioned in 1934 and sunk in 1938. In the novel 'verse, it continues its service into WorldWarTwo before being transported to the Lemurian/Grik world. Acceptable, as dozens of the old S-Boats were in service with the Asiatic Fleet at the start of the war, and some were still fighting as late as 1944.
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** As explained in the afterword to the first book, the HIMS ''Amagi'' depicted was badly damaged by an earthquake while under construction and scrapped in 1922. (There ''was'' an ''Amagi'' that served in WWII, but it was a carrier.) The real USS ''Walker'' was scuttled seventeen days after Pearl Harbor, while the ''Mahan'' was scrapped in 1931. *** Many ''Wickes'' class destroyers saw action throughout WWII. The USS ''Ward'', the ship that fired the first shots at Pearl Harbor, was a sister ship of the ''Mahan'' and ''Walker''. *** In-universe, the HIMS ''Amagi'' was completed as planned, except with her main battery being downgraded to 10-inch guns, likely to exploit some loophole in the Washington Naval Treaty. This armament is not quite up to battleship standards, but still much more powerful than any contemporary cruiser. ** This continues when a more modern Japanese destroyer crosses over, the HIMS ''Hidoiame'' described as the 20th of the ''Kagerō'' class. In RealLife, there were only 19 destroyers of that class, although three ships were also listed on the roster but served as the dummy budget for ''Yamato''-class battleships. Possibly, in this 'verse, one of these really was built as a destroyer. ** Ditto for the USS ''S-19''. In our history, the submarine was decommissioned in 1934 and sunk in 1938. In the novel 'verse, it continues its service into WorldWarTwo before being transported to the Lemurian/Grik world. Acceptable, as dozens of the old S-Boats were in service with the Asiatic Fleet at the start of the war, and some were still fighting as late as 1944.

** This can be initially assumed about the SS ''Amerika'', a German passenger liner converted into an armed troop transport during WorldWarOne. However, according to its crew, they fought a battle against an Entente converted transport before being swept up by a storm in the night. The RealLife ''Amerika'' was seized by American forces and converted into a troop transport as part of the US Navy (being renamed ''America''). It never fought a battle in the war and served well after the war's end. This is confirmed by Captain Reddy and serves as proof that the ''Amerika'' didn't come from the same world as the destroyermen. Additionally, according to the ship's crew, the United States remained neutral during the war.
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** This can be initially assumed about the SS ''Amerika'', a German passenger liner converted into an armed troop transport during WorldWarOne. However, according to its crew, they fought a battle against an Entente converted transport before being swept up by a storm in the night. The RealLife ''Amerika'' was seized by American forces and converted into a troop transport as part of the US Navy (being renamed ''America''). It never fought a battle in the war and served well after the war's end. This is confirmed by Captain Reddy and serves as proof that the ''Amerika'' didn't come from the same world as the destroyermen. Additionally, according to the ship's crew, the United States remained neutral during the war.
6th Dec '15 6:26:24 PM YT45
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** Najaka-Mur is this for the Lemurians.
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** Najaka-Mur Nakja-Mur is this for the Lemurians.
9th Nov '15 5:04:52 PM Mitchz95
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* CoolVersusAwesome: WWII-era military units versus dinosaurs and sea monsters.
3rd Nov '15 9:43:28 PM YT45
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** The Empire of the New Britain Isles uses smoothbore percussion muskets as their standard-issue, though they also have some percussion rifles. The Doms have flintlocks. Captain Samuel Anson carries what appears to be a [[HandCannon Colt Walker .44 cap&ball revolver]]. The Republic issues single-shot bolt-action rifles derived from the Mauser Gewehr-98's used by the SMS ''Amerika'''s crew.
5th Sep '15 10:44:42 PM YT45
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** The first one occurs at the beginning of ''Into The Storm'', during the historical Battle of the Java Sea. After the USS ''Pope'' and HMS ''Encounter'' are sunk, the already-crippled heavy cruiser HMS ''Exeter'' takes a critical hit to her engine room. Knowing that ''Exeter'' can't keep up, Captain Oliver Gordon signals ''Walker'' and ''Mahan'', [[TearJerker "Thanks for the help, we'll take it from here. Good luck."]] The ''Exeter'' is last seen turning towards the pursuing Japanese fleet, her guns blazing, then disappears in a wall of shell splashes and smoke.
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** The first one occurs at the beginning of ''Into The Storm'', during the historical Battle of the Java Sea. After the USS ''Pope'' and HMS ''Encounter'' are sunk, the already-crippled heavy cruiser HMS ''Exeter'' takes a critical hit to her engine room. Knowing that ''Exeter'' can't keep up, Captain Oliver Gordon signals ''Walker'' and ''Mahan'', [[TearJerker "Thanks for the help, we'll take it from here. Good luck."]] The ''Exeter'' is last seen [[TakingYouWithMe turning towards the pursuing Japanese fleet, her guns blazing, still blazing and her Royal Navy Ensign flapping defiantly from the mast]], then disappears in a wall of shell splashes and smoke.
5th Sep '15 10:41:52 PM YT45
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* HeroicSacrifice:
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* HeroicSacrifice:HeroicSacrifice: Quite a few. ** The first one occurs at the beginning of ''Into The Storm'', during the historical Battle of the Java Sea. After the USS ''Pope'' and HMS ''Encounter'' are sunk, the already-crippled heavy cruiser HMS ''Exeter'' takes a critical hit to her engine room. Knowing that ''Exeter'' can't keep up, Captain Oliver Gordon signals ''Walker'' and ''Mahan'', [[TearJerker "Thanks for the help, we'll take it from here. Good luck."]] The ''Exeter'' is last seen turning towards the pursuing Japanese fleet, her guns blazing, then disappears in a wall of shell splashes and smoke. *** Students of history will know that Captain Oliver L. Gordon MVO RN survived the loss of his ship and led his surviving crew through [[FateWorseThanDeath three years of captivity at the hands of the Japanese]]. He returned to the UK a hero in 1945.
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