History Literature / ColdDays

17th Nov '17 11:36:42 AM SeptimusHeap
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* ParanoiaFuel: [[spoiler:{{In-Universe}} [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Nemesis]] is this. There's no way to tell who has it, until they start going visibly off the deep end at least, and Harry spends a large portion of the book worrying if his friends have been infected.]]

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* ParanoiaFuel: [[spoiler:{{In-Universe}} [[spoiler:InUniverse [[BrainwashedAndCrazy Nemesis]] is this. There's no way to tell who has it, until they start going visibly off the deep end at least, and Harry spends a large portion of the book worrying if his friends have been infected.]]
29th Oct '17 6:35:36 PM LentilSandEater
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** Lily, compared to Maeve, is a paragon of nice and warmth. When she gets pissed, however, she can throw flames out that would melt steel. One of her attacks is described like a miniature sun. It is wise to not press the above mentioned BerserkButton.

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** Lily, compared to Maeve, is a paragon of nice and warmth. When she gets pissed, however, she can throw flames out that would melt steel. One of her attacks is described like a miniature sun. It is wise to not press the above mentioned BerserkButton.
29th Oct '17 6:35:03 PM LentilSandEater
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** Threatening Lily, making provocative statements about her, and defending Lloyd Slate will quickly piss Summer Knight Fix off.
** In turn, harming Fix is a big one for Lily.
** For killing Aurora, Harry is a walking one for Titania as well. [[spoiler:It is only by virtue of her therapy sessions did she not kill Harry on sight]].
22nd Oct '17 10:23:56 AM MasterFuzzy
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* ImmodestOrgasm: Harry to [[spoiler:Murphy]] on what he claims their relationship will be like if they ever become romantically involved.

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* ImmodestOrgasm: Harry to [[spoiler:Murphy]] Murphy on what he claims their relationship will be like if they ever become romantically involved.



** Mother Winter nearly [[spoiler:chops Harry up for stew meat with a cleaver]], at one point. [[spoiler:Turns out it's a test. Mostly.]]

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** Mother Winter nearly [[spoiler:chops chops Harry up for stew meat with a cleaver]], cleaver, at one point. [[spoiler:Turns out it's a test. Mostly.]]



--->'''Mother Summer:''' [S]howing respect to one's elders is never unwise.\\

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--->'''Mother Summer:''' [S]howing Showing respect to one's elders is never unwise.\\



* NoSell: Harry learns that [[spoiler:his basic magic circle barrier was no where near strong enough to stop Titania from shattering it with her will and power.]]

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* NoSell: Harry learns that [[spoiler:his basic magic circle barrier was no where nowhere near strong enough to stop Titania from shattering it with her will and power.]]



[[spoiler:Fix looked at]] me, dirty, naked, shivering, burned, bruised, covered in soot and ash.

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[[spoiler:Fix [[spoiler:Fix]] looked at]] at me, dirty, naked, shivering, burned, bruised, covered in soot and ash.



** [[spoiler:Harry's Winter-Knight-fueled outbursts of psychopathic impulse are used to impress on the reader (and Harry's friends) just how [[IncrediblyLamePun not-cool]] the Knight's mantle is]].

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** [[spoiler:Harry's Harry's Winter-Knight-fueled outbursts of psychopathic impulse are used to impress on the reader (and Harry's friends) just how [[IncrediblyLamePun not-cool]] the Knight's mantle is]].is.



** Thomas also gives one to Harry over the latter's choice to die rather than become a monster, as Thomas has been dealing with those urges literally his entire life, and could've helped him.



** Harry uses it to summon Cat Sith, [[spoiler:and Titania]] and it becomes a very important plot point when [[spoiler:Cat Sith ''doesn't'' answer after three calls]].

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** Harry uses it to summon Cat Sith, [[spoiler:and Titania]] Sith and Titania and it becomes a very important plot point when [[spoiler:Cat [[spoiler: Cat Sith ''doesn't'' answer after three calls]].



** Just before [[spoiler:Sharkface attacks Mac's, Harry asks the host if they may fight if it comes to it. Mac's guttural growl and loading ''his own weapon'' is taken as permission to fight if the need arises]].

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** Just before [[spoiler:Sharkface attacks Mac's, Mac's,]] Harry asks the host if they may fight if it comes to it. Mac's The owner's guttural growl and loading ''his own weapon'' is taken as permission to fight if the need arises]].arises.



** Harry justifies and permits [[spoiler:Summer Knight Fix to attack Maeve's cohorts, despite them being nobles of the Winter Court. By his position of ''Mab's'' Knight, he declared Redcap and the others fugitives to the Winter Court and so no war can come from Fix striking them]].

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** Harry justifies and permits [[spoiler:Summer Knight Fix to attack Maeve's cohorts, despite them being nobles of the Winter Court. By his position of ''Mab's'' Knight, he declared Redcap and the others fugitives to the Winter Court Court]] and so no war can come from Fix striking them]].them.



** [[spoiler:Some fae dogs were on Demonreach intending to ambush Harry and company. Because of Intelectus, Harry could spot them. He shot one before they were close enough, set the second one's hiding spot on fire, and the third wisely ran off, helping its friends to escape]].

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** [[spoiler:Some fae dogs were on Demonreach intending to ambush Harry and company. Because of Intelectus, Intellectus, Harry could spot them. He shot one before they were close enough, set the second one's hiding spot on fire, and the third wisely ran off, helping its friends to escape]].



** Averted with [[spoiler:Murphy and Molly are the only ones of his friends who don't call him out when they first meet up with him]].

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** Averted with [[spoiler:Murphy Murphy and Molly Molly, who are the only ones of his friends who don't call him out when they first meet up with him]].him.



** By an extension of this, Mab [[spoiler:wants Harry to be her Watchman. At the end, in the span of a few minutes, Harry gives Mab two serious threats to her life and openly states he will hurt her if she harms Molly, and Mab is happy with this. She didn't want some YesMan Knight, but one that was smart and to think on his own. Possibly even to kill her if Mab was ever taken by ''Nemesis'']].

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** By an extension of this, Mab [[spoiler:wants [[spoiler: Mab]] wants Harry to be her Watchman. At the end, in the span of a few minutes, Harry gives Mab her two serious threats to her life and openly states he will hurt her if she harms Molly, and Mab she is happy with this. She didn't want some YesMan Knight, YesMan, but one that was smart and to think on his own. Possibly even to kill her if Mab she was ever taken by ''Nemesis'']].''Nemesis''.
* WhyDontYouJustShootHim: This is what tips off Harry that [[spoiler: Cat Sith]] is possessed-he's a CombatPragmatist and, if he wanted to kill Harry, he would've just done so.



** Mab and [[spoiler:Nemesis may be two forces completely against the other with the latter wishing to destroy reality, while Mab's duty is to protect it, but Mab still respects Nemesis' power and plans. Justified because to think little of this ancient entity would be a grave folly on Mab's part.]]

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** Mab and [[spoiler:Nemesis [[spoiler:Nemesis]] may be two forces completely against the other with the latter wishing to destroy reality, while Mab's duty is to protect it, but Mab still respects Nemesis' [[spoiler: Nemesis']] power and plans. Justified because to think little of this ancient entity would be a grave folly on Mab's part.]]



* YouOweMe: Inverted [[spoiler:because Harry offers to owe Odin a favor in exchange for his wisdom. Odin accepts, plus a nickle, but, knowing Harry, doesn't consider this a long term investment]].

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* YouOweMe: Inverted [[spoiler:because Harry offers to owe Odin a favor in exchange for his wisdom. Odin accepts, plus a nickle, nickel, but, knowing Harry, doesn't consider this a long term investment]].
22nd Oct '17 10:02:09 AM MasterFuzzy
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** Also, the headaches themselves are revealed to be foreshadowing, possibly from as early as ''Grave Peril.''

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** Also, the headaches themselves are revealed to be foreshadowing, possibly from as early as ''Grave Peril.''Small Favor.''



** Maeve [[spoiler:, if she became Queen, would for a few years relish in the power to maim and harm anyone who dare think about crossing her, have access to an army that numbers in the hundreds of thousands]].

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** Maeve [[spoiler:, if she became Queen, would for a few years relish in the power to maim and harm anyone who dare think about crossing her, and have access to an army that numbers in the hundreds of thousands]].



* GrandfatherParadox: Referenced when Harry is talking to Vadderung about time travel and its consequences. Harry asks what would happen if he went back in time to kill his own grandfather (Ebenezer [=McCoy=]). Vadderung's answer is, "He beats you senseless, I suspect."

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* GrandfatherParadox: Referenced when Harry is talking to Vadderung about time travel and its consequences. Harry asks what would happen if he went back in time to kill his own grandfather (Ebenezer [=McCoy=]). Vadderung's answer is, [[BadassGrandpa "He beats you senseless, I suspect.""]]



** Though, it's implied that it's less that humans are insane so much as that they have free will-the Fae, by definition, are locked into their roles, but humans aren't.



** Harry and Molly both admit they held the ball back in ''Changes'' by allowing Molly to come to the final battle and her part in his attempted suicide. Harry should have stopped her as her Mentor and Molly admits she was too thick-headed to have listened to the warnings back then. All they can do now is deal with the consequences and move on.

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** Harry and Molly both admit they held the ball back in ''Changes'' by allowing Molly to come to the final battle and her part in his attempted suicide. Harry should have stopped her as her Mentor mentor and Molly admits she was too thick-headed to have listened to the warnings back then. All they can do now is deal with the consequences and move on.



** This is stated to be one of the reasons why Demonreach is in the middle of a lake.



* UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar: Of the Fae Courts. Harry learns that there is a strict code of Law and Custom in the on going wars and battles between Summer and Winter and whoever might be fighting them as well. A fae or representative of the court must honor the Laws if invoked. Harry learns he is now such a representative.

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* UsefulNotes/TheLawsAndCustomsOfWar: Of the Fae Courts. Harry learns that there is a strict code of Law and Custom in the on going wars and battles between Summer and Winter and whoever might be fighting them as well. A fae or representative of the court must honor the Laws if invoked. Harry learns he is now such a representative. He also invokes this to stop any reprisals from Fix attacking Winter Fae, by using his authority.



* NumerologicalMotif: Twelve pops up, though the exact reason isn't known why. [[spoiler:The Well leading to the prison cells on Demonreach has a staircase of seventeen hundred and twenty-eight, or twelve cubed. Merlin must have held some reason for this.]]

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* NumerologicalMotif: Twelve pops up, though the exact reason isn't known why. [[spoiler:The Well leading to the prison cells on Demonreach has a staircase of seventeen hundred and twenty-eight, or twelve cubed.cubed, stairs, and there are twelve tunnels. Merlin must have held some reason for this.]]



** Fix, when he considers [[spoiler:just how messed things up are if Maeve can lie]].

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** Fix, when he considers [[spoiler:just how messed up things up are if Maeve can lie]].



** Thomas also gives one to Harry over the latter's choice to die rather than become a monster, as Thomas has been dealing with those urges literally his entire life, and could've helped him.



* RoyalWe: At the formal party in the beginning of the book, when Mab addressed the entire court she speaks with this and not a singular pronoun until after [[spoiler:Maeve and Redcap's failed attempt to kill Sarissa and one of Maeve's lackeys spilled blood]] at which time, she went back to single pronoun.

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* RoyalWe: At the formal party in the beginning of the book, when Mab addressed the entire court she speaks with this and not a singular pronoun until after [[spoiler:Maeve and Redcap's failed attempt to kill Sarissa and one of Maeve's lackeys spilled blood]] at which time, she went back to single pronoun.pronouns.
10th Oct '17 7:37:39 AM Malady
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* NudityEqualsHonesty:
--> Can you look at me right now and honestly say to yourself, 'Dresden, that wily genius! This must be a part of his master plan'?"\\
I spread my hands and looked up at him expectantly.\\
[[spoiler:Fix looked at]] me, dirty, naked, shivering, burned, bruised, covered in soot and ash.
14th Feb '17 4:16:49 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: In the Winter Court this is how things roll. So beware Santa Claus, who only bows his head to Mab( and only out of respect); Cat Sith, leader of the Malks; and the Redcap, king of his kind.

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* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: In the Winter Court this is how things roll. So beware Santa Claus, who only bows his head to Mab( and Mab (and only out of respect); Cat Sith, leader of the Malks; and the Redcap, king of his kind.



** [[spoiler:Possibly the Black Council as well. What role the Black Council plays in all of this is still unclear. They were the ones that spread Nemesis to Victor Sells, Leonid Kravos, the FBI agents, the Red Court, Lea (and, through Lea, Maeve), and the White Court. It is unclear whether the Black Council is using Nemesis for its own ends, whether it is working with Nemesis in a partnership, or whether it is serving Nemesis]]. What is certain is this: According to WordofGod, [[spoiler:Justin [=DuMorne=] was ''collecting'' the Starborn to raise them into a weapon to destroy outsiders.]] Why? No idea.

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** [[spoiler:Possibly the Black Council as well. What role the Black Council plays in all of this is still unclear. They were the ones that spread Nemesis to Victor Sells, Leonid Kravos, the FBI agents, the Red Court, Lea (and, through Lea, Maeve), and the White Court. It is unclear whether the Black Council is using Nemesis for its own ends, whether it is working with Nemesis in a partnership, or whether it is serving Nemesis]]. What is certain is this: According to WordofGod, WordOfGod, [[spoiler:Justin [=DuMorne=] was ''collecting'' the Starborn to raise them into a weapon to destroy outsiders.]] Why? No idea.



* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Used by Maeve, against Harry...''again.'' And once again, she's pissed when it doesn't work. [[spoiler:It's really just a ploy to throw him off his game, so he'll run into ''another'' trap.]]

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* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Used by Maeve, against Harry... ''again.'' And once again, she's pissed when it doesn't work. [[spoiler:It's really just a ploy to throw him off his game, so he'll run into ''another'' trap.]]



* LossOfIdentity: This is what the Mantle of ''any'' Fey does to any mortal [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide who gives into the power]] and does not control it. For example, a majority of the Winter and Summer Knight. This is because as mortals they have Free Will. Immortals do not and thus cannot resist their Mantles' influence, and according to Bob the Mantles of the Fae Queens alter the personalities of their bearers. [[spoiler:Bob may be wrong, however. Lily, despite being claimed by Bob to be 'pretty much Aurora'...is still motivated by Lily, and Maeve's actions are because of who she was. However since we never get a look at a pre-corruption Aurora and no look at Molly, (yet), we can't say for sure if their actions and motivations are truly inconsistent, or whether it is Nemesis that makes them so. Added to this is Mother Summer's veiled assertion that mortals can choose to become like their mantles or choose to resist. Many fail in becoming different than the mantle]].

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* LossOfIdentity: This is what the Mantle of ''any'' Fey does to any mortal [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide who gives into the power]] and does not control it. For example, a majority of the Winter and Summer Knight. This is because as mortals they have Free Will. Immortals do not and thus cannot resist their Mantles' influence, and according to Bob the Mantles of the Fae Queens alter the personalities of their bearers. [[spoiler:Bob may be wrong, however. Lily, despite being claimed by Bob to be 'pretty much Aurora'... is still motivated by Lily, and Maeve's actions are because of who she was. However since we never get a look at a pre-corruption Aurora and no look at Molly, (yet), we can't say for sure if their actions and motivations are truly inconsistent, or whether it is Nemesis that makes them so. Added to this is Mother Summer's veiled assertion that mortals can choose to become like their mantles or choose to resist. Many fail in becoming different than the mantle]].



** [[spoiler: Mab is TheSpock, Titania is TheMcCoy. Yet the plot is set in motion because of Mab being emotional- she can't kill Maeve herself because she loves her. And when Harry meets Titania, she notes that the wisdom of her heart says that she should ''hate'' Harry for killing Aurora- but she lets him go because, logically, Harry needed to do it (since Aurora was possessed by Nemesis) and killing Harry wouldn't give her Aurora back. And then there's Mab's actions in the final chapter- when Harry threatens her with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, she actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].
* OutOfCharacterAlert: Harry realizes that [[spoiler: Cat Sith and Maeve]] have been suborned by Nemesis when they show some moments of this (although it took him a while to realize what Maeve's moment)- [[spoiler: Cat Sith gloats to Harry instead of just killing him from ambush, and Maeve gives a straight, easy-to-understand rundown of the events with no roundaboutness, ambiguity, or ExactWords to speak of (which is basically impossible to the fae, as being indirect is part of their nature)]].

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** [[spoiler: Mab [[spoiler:Mab is TheSpock, Titania is TheMcCoy. Yet the plot is set in motion because of Mab being emotional- she can't kill Maeve herself because she loves her. And when Harry meets Titania, she notes that the wisdom of her heart says that she should ''hate'' Harry for killing Aurora- but she lets him go because, logically, Harry needed to do it (since Aurora was possessed by Nemesis) and killing Harry wouldn't give her Aurora back. And then there's Mab's actions in the final chapter- when Harry threatens her with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, she actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].
* OutOfCharacterAlert: Harry realizes that [[spoiler: Cat [[spoiler:Cat Sith and Maeve]] have been suborned by Nemesis when they show some moments of this (although it took him a while to realize what Maeve's moment)- [[spoiler: Cat [[spoiler:Cat Sith gloats to Harry instead of just killing him from ambush, and Maeve gives a straight, easy-to-understand rundown of the events with no roundaboutness, ambiguity, or ExactWords to speak of (which is basically impossible to the fae, as being indirect is part of their nature)]].
10th Feb '17 11:37:11 AM Xtifr
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''Cold Days'' is book #14 in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''.



'''''Cold Days''''' is book #14 in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''. Now has its own ''very long'' [[ShoutOut/ColdDays shout out]] page.
24th Dec '16 7:42:47 AM Gosicrystal
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* DistinctionWithoutADifference:
** When speaking with [[spoiler:Demonreach]] he tells Harry, he did not bully [[spoiler:Queen Mab]] for help in ''Ghost Story.'' He bargained.
** In showing his wisdom, Harry defuses an argument between Mother Winter and Mother Summer over the matter of his arrival. He denies Mother Summer's claim that he was [[spoiler:rudely dragged to her home against his will, but rather a firm invitation]]. Mother Winter approves.
** Molly refutes Harry's claim she borrowed money [[spoiler:from the White Court's emergency funds]]. She just plainly states she stole it.



-->'''Harry''': Real goblins are like mutant Terminator serial killer psycho ninjas. Think Hannibal Lecter meets Jackie Chan.
* NoExceptYes:
** When speaking with [[spoiler:Demonreach]] he tells Harry, he did not bully [[spoiler:Queen Mab]] for help in ''Ghost Story.'' He bargained.
** In showing his wisdom, Harry defuses an argument between Mother Winter and Mother Summer over the matter of his arrival. He denies Mother Summer's claim that he was [[spoiler:rudely dragged to her home against his will, but rather a firm invitation]]. Mother Winter approves.
** Molly refutes Harry's claim she borrowed money [[spoiler:from the White Court's emergency funds.]] She just plainly states she stole it.

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-->'''Harry''': -->'''Harry:''' Real goblins are like mutant Terminator serial killer psycho ninjas. Think Hannibal Lecter meets Jackie Chan.
* NoExceptYes:
** When speaking with [[spoiler:Demonreach]] he tells Harry, he did not bully [[spoiler:Queen Mab]] for help in ''Ghost Story.'' He bargained.
** In showing his wisdom, Harry defuses an argument between Mother Winter and Mother Summer over the matter of his arrival. He denies Mother Summer's claim that he was [[spoiler:rudely dragged to her home against his will, but rather a firm invitation]]. Mother Winter approves.
** Molly refutes Harry's claim she borrowed money [[spoiler:from the White Court's emergency funds.]] She just plainly states she stole it.
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29th Nov '16 9:44:49 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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** [[spoiler: Mab is TheSpock, Titania is TheMcCoy. Yet the plot is set in motion because of Mab being emotional- she can't kill Maeve herself because she loves her. And when Harry meets Titania, she notes that the wisdom of her heart says that she should ''hate'' Harry for killing Aurora- but she lets him go because, logically, Harry needed to do it (since Aurora was [[spoiler: possessed by Nemesis]]) and killing Harry wouldn't give her Aurora back. And then there's Mab's actions in the final chapter- when Harry threatens her with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, she actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].

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** [[spoiler: Mab is TheSpock, Titania is TheMcCoy. Yet the plot is set in motion because of Mab being emotional- she can't kill Maeve herself because she loves her. And when Harry meets Titania, she notes that the wisdom of her heart says that she should ''hate'' Harry for killing Aurora- but she lets him go because, logically, Harry needed to do it (since Aurora was [[spoiler: possessed by Nemesis]]) Nemesis) and killing Harry wouldn't give her Aurora back. And then there's Mab's actions in the final chapter- when Harry threatens her with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, she actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].
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