History Literature / ColdDays

14th Feb '17 4:16:49 PM CurledUpWithDakka
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* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: In the Winter Court this is how things roll. So beware Santa Claus, who only bows his head to Mab( and only out of respect); Cat Sith, leader of the Malks; and the Redcap, king of his kind.

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* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: In the Winter Court this is how things roll. So beware Santa Claus, who only bows his head to Mab( and Mab (and only out of respect); Cat Sith, leader of the Malks; and the Redcap, king of his kind.



** [[spoiler:Possibly the Black Council as well. What role the Black Council plays in all of this is still unclear. They were the ones that spread Nemesis to Victor Sells, Leonid Kravos, the FBI agents, the Red Court, Lea (and, through Lea, Maeve), and the White Court. It is unclear whether the Black Council is using Nemesis for its own ends, whether it is working with Nemesis in a partnership, or whether it is serving Nemesis]]. What is certain is this: According to WordofGod, [[spoiler:Justin [=DuMorne=] was ''collecting'' the Starborn to raise them into a weapon to destroy outsiders.]] Why? No idea.

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** [[spoiler:Possibly the Black Council as well. What role the Black Council plays in all of this is still unclear. They were the ones that spread Nemesis to Victor Sells, Leonid Kravos, the FBI agents, the Red Court, Lea (and, through Lea, Maeve), and the White Court. It is unclear whether the Black Council is using Nemesis for its own ends, whether it is working with Nemesis in a partnership, or whether it is serving Nemesis]]. What is certain is this: According to WordofGod, WordOfGod, [[spoiler:Justin [=DuMorne=] was ''collecting'' the Starborn to raise them into a weapon to destroy outsiders.]] Why? No idea.



* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Used by Maeve, against Harry...''again.'' And once again, she's pissed when it doesn't work. [[spoiler:It's really just a ploy to throw him off his game, so he'll run into ''another'' trap.]]

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* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Used by Maeve, against Harry... ''again.'' And once again, she's pissed when it doesn't work. [[spoiler:It's really just a ploy to throw him off his game, so he'll run into ''another'' trap.]]



* LossOfIdentity: This is what the Mantle of ''any'' Fey does to any mortal [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide who gives into the power]] and does not control it. For example, a majority of the Winter and Summer Knight. This is because as mortals they have Free Will. Immortals do not and thus cannot resist their Mantles' influence, and according to Bob the Mantles of the Fae Queens alter the personalities of their bearers. [[spoiler:Bob may be wrong, however. Lily, despite being claimed by Bob to be 'pretty much Aurora'...is still motivated by Lily, and Maeve's actions are because of who she was. However since we never get a look at a pre-corruption Aurora and no look at Molly, (yet), we can't say for sure if their actions and motivations are truly inconsistent, or whether it is Nemesis that makes them so. Added to this is Mother Summer's veiled assertion that mortals can choose to become like their mantles or choose to resist. Many fail in becoming different than the mantle]].

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* LossOfIdentity: This is what the Mantle of ''any'' Fey does to any mortal [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide who gives into the power]] and does not control it. For example, a majority of the Winter and Summer Knight. This is because as mortals they have Free Will. Immortals do not and thus cannot resist their Mantles' influence, and according to Bob the Mantles of the Fae Queens alter the personalities of their bearers. [[spoiler:Bob may be wrong, however. Lily, despite being claimed by Bob to be 'pretty much Aurora'... is still motivated by Lily, and Maeve's actions are because of who she was. However since we never get a look at a pre-corruption Aurora and no look at Molly, (yet), we can't say for sure if their actions and motivations are truly inconsistent, or whether it is Nemesis that makes them so. Added to this is Mother Summer's veiled assertion that mortals can choose to become like their mantles or choose to resist. Many fail in becoming different than the mantle]].



** [[spoiler: Mab is TheSpock, Titania is TheMcCoy. Yet the plot is set in motion because of Mab being emotional- she can't kill Maeve herself because she loves her. And when Harry meets Titania, she notes that the wisdom of her heart says that she should ''hate'' Harry for killing Aurora- but she lets him go because, logically, Harry needed to do it (since Aurora was possessed by Nemesis) and killing Harry wouldn't give her Aurora back. And then there's Mab's actions in the final chapter- when Harry threatens her with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, she actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].
* OutOfCharacterAlert: Harry realizes that [[spoiler: Cat Sith and Maeve]] have been suborned by Nemesis when they show some moments of this (although it took him a while to realize what Maeve's moment)- [[spoiler: Cat Sith gloats to Harry instead of just killing him from ambush, and Maeve gives a straight, easy-to-understand rundown of the events with no roundaboutness, ambiguity, or ExactWords to speak of (which is basically impossible to the fae, as being indirect is part of their nature)]].

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** [[spoiler: Mab [[spoiler:Mab is TheSpock, Titania is TheMcCoy. Yet the plot is set in motion because of Mab being emotional- she can't kill Maeve herself because she loves her. And when Harry meets Titania, she notes that the wisdom of her heart says that she should ''hate'' Harry for killing Aurora- but she lets him go because, logically, Harry needed to do it (since Aurora was possessed by Nemesis) and killing Harry wouldn't give her Aurora back. And then there's Mab's actions in the final chapter- when Harry threatens her with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, she actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].
* OutOfCharacterAlert: Harry realizes that [[spoiler: Cat [[spoiler:Cat Sith and Maeve]] have been suborned by Nemesis when they show some moments of this (although it took him a while to realize what Maeve's moment)- [[spoiler: Cat [[spoiler:Cat Sith gloats to Harry instead of just killing him from ambush, and Maeve gives a straight, easy-to-understand rundown of the events with no roundaboutness, ambiguity, or ExactWords to speak of (which is basically impossible to the fae, as being indirect is part of their nature)]].
10th Feb '17 11:37:11 AM Xtifr
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''Cold Days'' is book #14 in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''.



'''''Cold Days''''' is book #14 in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles''. Now has its own ''very long'' [[ShoutOut/ColdDays shout out]] page.
24th Dec '16 7:42:47 AM Gosicrystal
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* DistinctionWithoutADifference:
** When speaking with [[spoiler:Demonreach]] he tells Harry, he did not bully [[spoiler:Queen Mab]] for help in ''Ghost Story.'' He bargained.
** In showing his wisdom, Harry defuses an argument between Mother Winter and Mother Summer over the matter of his arrival. He denies Mother Summer's claim that he was [[spoiler:rudely dragged to her home against his will, but rather a firm invitation]]. Mother Winter approves.
** Molly refutes Harry's claim she borrowed money [[spoiler:from the White Court's emergency funds]]. She just plainly states she stole it.



-->'''Harry''': Real goblins are like mutant Terminator serial killer psycho ninjas. Think Hannibal Lecter meets Jackie Chan.
* NoExceptYes:
** When speaking with [[spoiler:Demonreach]] he tells Harry, he did not bully [[spoiler:Queen Mab]] for help in ''Ghost Story.'' He bargained.
** In showing his wisdom, Harry defuses an argument between Mother Winter and Mother Summer over the matter of his arrival. He denies Mother Summer's claim that he was [[spoiler:rudely dragged to her home against his will, but rather a firm invitation]]. Mother Winter approves.
** Molly refutes Harry's claim she borrowed money [[spoiler:from the White Court's emergency funds.]] She just plainly states she stole it.

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-->'''Harry''': -->'''Harry:''' Real goblins are like mutant Terminator serial killer psycho ninjas. Think Hannibal Lecter meets Jackie Chan.
* NoExceptYes:
** When speaking with [[spoiler:Demonreach]] he tells Harry, he did not bully [[spoiler:Queen Mab]] for help in ''Ghost Story.'' He bargained.
** In showing his wisdom, Harry defuses an argument between Mother Winter and Mother Summer over the matter of his arrival. He denies Mother Summer's claim that he was [[spoiler:rudely dragged to her home against his will, but rather a firm invitation]]. Mother Winter approves.
** Molly refutes Harry's claim she borrowed money [[spoiler:from the White Court's emergency funds.]] She just plainly states she stole it.
Chan.
29th Nov '16 9:44:49 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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** [[spoiler: Mab is TheSpock, Titania is TheMcCoy. Yet the plot is set in motion because of Mab being emotional- she can't kill Maeve herself because she loves her. And when Harry meets Titania, she notes that the wisdom of her heart says that she should ''hate'' Harry for killing Aurora- but she lets him go because, logically, Harry needed to do it (since Aurora was [[spoiler: possessed by Nemesis]]) and killing Harry wouldn't give her Aurora back. And then there's Mab's actions in the final chapter- when Harry threatens her with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, she actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].

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** [[spoiler: Mab is TheSpock, Titania is TheMcCoy. Yet the plot is set in motion because of Mab being emotional- she can't kill Maeve herself because she loves her. And when Harry meets Titania, she notes that the wisdom of her heart says that she should ''hate'' Harry for killing Aurora- but she lets him go because, logically, Harry needed to do it (since Aurora was [[spoiler: possessed by Nemesis]]) Nemesis) and killing Harry wouldn't give her Aurora back. And then there's Mab's actions in the final chapter- when Harry threatens her with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, she actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].
29th Nov '16 9:44:02 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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** [[spoiler:Mab. Everything she does in the book's final chapter is against character. She loves her daughter, and cannot bear to kill her, necessary as it may be. When Harry threatens Mab with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, Mab actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].

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** [[spoiler:Mab. Everything [[spoiler: Mab is TheSpock, Titania is TheMcCoy. Yet the plot is set in motion because of Mab being emotional- she does can't kill Maeve herself because she loves her. And when Harry meets Titania, she notes that the wisdom of her heart says that she should ''hate'' Harry for killing Aurora- but she lets him go because, logically, Harry needed to do it (since Aurora was [[spoiler: possessed by Nemesis]]) and killing Harry wouldn't give her Aurora back. And then there's Mab's actions in the book's final chapter is against character. She loves her daughter, and cannot bear to kill her, necessary as it may be. When chapter- when Harry threatens Mab her with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, Mab she actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].
29th Nov '16 9:35:06 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* ComicallyMissingThePoint: Maeve attempts to get Sarrisa's goat by commenting on the dress she wore to the party at the beginning of the book. Sarrisa counters by pointing out that Maeve was dressed like a stripper, wearing nothing but rhinestones. Maeve, incensed, fires back "[[PunctuatedForEmphasis They. Were. Diamonds!]]"

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* ComicallyMissingThePoint: Maeve attempts tries to get Sarrisa's goat to Sarissa by commenting on mocking how skimpy the dress she wore to the Harry's party at the beginning of the book. Sarrisa counters by pointing (supposedly) was. Sarissa points out that Maeve was dressed like a stripper, wearing really has no room to talk given that ''her'' outfit consisted of [[DiamondsInTheBuff rhinestones and nothing but rhinestones. Maeve, incensed, fires back "[[PunctuatedForEmphasis They. Were. Diamonds!]]"else]]. Maeve is incensed- they weren't rhinestones, they were ''diamonds''!



** Harry gets tipped off to the fact that [[spoiler:Cat Sith has been suborned by the Outsiders when "Cat" threatens him instead of filleting him instantly when Harry wasn't looking]].


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* OutOfCharacterAlert: Harry realizes that [[spoiler: Cat Sith and Maeve]] have been suborned by Nemesis when they show some moments of this (although it took him a while to realize what Maeve's moment)- [[spoiler: Cat Sith gloats to Harry instead of just killing him from ambush, and Maeve gives a straight, easy-to-understand rundown of the events with no roundaboutness, ambiguity, or ExactWords to speak of (which is basically impossible to the fae, as being indirect is part of their nature)]].
31st Oct '16 8:26:56 AM Kafkesque
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*** And as it turns out, one of Kringle's ''other'' names is [[spoiler:Odin.]]
28th Oct '16 4:34:30 PM Kafkesque
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After months of surviving increasingly bizarre and daily assassination attempts by Mab as part of his therapy, the Queen of Air and Darkness declares her new Knight ready for his first assignment. However, in the process of carrying it out, Harry quickly realizes that his life is even more complicated than he initially thought.

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After months of surviving daily and increasingly bizarre and daily assassination attempts by Mab as part of his therapy, the Queen of Air and Darkness declares her new Knight ready for his first assignment. However, in the process of carrying it out, Harry quickly realizes that his life is even more complicated than he initially thought.
21st Oct '16 10:13:22 AM scionofgrace
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** Captain Hook, so named for his armor's attire, [[spoiler:is unknowingly taken prisoner by Harry during his escape from the Botanical Gardens because the hooks get caught in Harry's coat and the small fae was pounded just a bit too much to escape]].

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** Captain Hook, so named for his armor's attire, armor, [[spoiler:is unknowingly taken prisoner by Harry during his escape from the Botanical Gardens because the hooks get caught in Harry's coat and the small fae was pounded just a bit too much to escape]].



** Part of Kringle's duty is being this. He shows kindness and hope in the cold darkness.

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** Part of Kringle's duty is being this. He shows displaying kindness and hope in the cold darkness.



* HumanityIsInsane: It is postulated the reason magic goes all wonky about mortal magic users, and previously showed up as milk curdling or the whole warts and lesions, is because humans are this. Even the most normal wizard still suffers from internal conflicts and this causes the issues. Fae, being of absolute belief in their actions, lack this and thus can use modern tech.
* HumanityIsSuperior: Compared to most every other supernatural force in existence, humans are weak. Humans lack the physical strength some fae, like ogres have, don't have the brilliant minds or powerful magic, like even Toot-toot can draw on, aren't physical gods like the Queens and Odin, and don't predate the Universe like the Angels and Fallen. But against all that, the one thing Humanity has that can trump all of them [[spoiler:is Free Will. No force, no power can strip that from a human]].

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* HumanityIsInsane: It is postulated It's debated that the reason human magic goes all wonky about mortal magic users, and previously showed up as milk curdling doesn't play nice with electronics (or food, or the whole warts and lesions, a wizard's complexion, in previous centuries) is because humans are this. Even the most normal wizard still suffers from conflicted and full of inconsistencies. Fae lack any kind of internal conflicts and this causes the issues. Fae, being of absolute belief in their actions, lack this conflict and thus can use modern tech.
* HumanityIsSuperior: Compared to most every other supernatural force in existence, humans are weak. Humans lack the physical strength some fae, like ogres have, don't have and/or physical grace nor the brilliant minds or powerful magic, like even Toot-toot can draw on, potent magic of the Fae, aren't physical gods like the Queens and Odin, and don't predate the Universe like the Angels and Fallen. But against all that, the one thing Humanity has that can trump all of them [[spoiler:is Free Will. No force, no power can strip that from a human]].



** Molly notes that [[spoiler:the White Court, and specifically Lara, holds this by not maintaining better control over who has access to their emergency fund card, and so able to access to practically limitless funds of White Court money.]] And Molly shows this by stealing a bit of it.
** Harry calls Molly out on holding it by not trying to rebuild a relationship with certain members of the White Council. Sure, most are jerks, but to burn her bridges now and then 100 years down the line, rebuilding them is all the harder. Harry lampshades that he wished he had realized this years ago as it might have made his life easier.
** Mab considers Harry holding it twice. First [[spoiler:when he fell into Maeve's gambit at the party]]. Second came [[spoiler:from him not realizing sooner that he could use the giant magic circle Lily and Maeve crafted to summon her sooner than he had]].
** [[spoiler:Winter Queen Mab]] realizes she held it for [[spoiler:failing to anticipate Maeve could just kill Lily in a final act against her. Or that's what she wants Maeve to think, since she had already planned for something like this eventuality]].
** Harry and Molly both admit they held the ball back in ''Changes'' by allowing Molly to come to the final battle and her part in his attempted suicide. Harry should have stopped her as her Mentor and Molly admits she was too thick-headed to have listened to the warnings back then. Now they must just deal with the consequences and move on.

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** Molly notes that [[spoiler:the White Court, and specifically Lara, holds this by not maintaining better control over who has access to their emergency fund card, and so able to access to practically limitless funds of White Court money.]] And Molly shows this by stealing a bit So she takes advantage of it.
it while she can.
** Harry calls accuses Molly out on of holding it by not trying to rebuild a relationship with certain members of the White Council. Sure, most are jerks, but to burn her bridges now and then 100 years down the line, rebuilding them is all the harder. Harry lampshades that he wished he had realized this years ago as it might have made his life easier.
** Mab considers Harry holding to have held it twice. First [[spoiler:when he fell into Maeve's gambit at the party]]. Second came [[spoiler:from him not realizing sooner that he could use the giant magic circle Lily and Maeve crafted to summon her sooner than he had]].
** [[spoiler:Winter Queen Mab]] realizes acts like she held it for [[spoiler:failing to anticipate Maeve could just kill Lily in a final act against her. Or that's what she wants Maeve to think, since she had already Turns out she'd planned for something like this eventuality]].
that too]].
** Harry and Molly both admit they held the ball back in ''Changes'' by allowing Molly to come to the final battle and her part in his attempted suicide. Harry should have stopped her as her Mentor and Molly admits she was too thick-headed to have listened to the warnings back then. Now All they must just can do now is deal with the consequences and move on.



** As mentioned in DiamondsInTheBuff, Maeve wore just diamonds for Harry's birthday. He doesn't ignore her as so much shoot her temptations dead on arrival with a brutal verbal smack down.
** [[spoiler:Thomas revealed Marcone has ignored Lara's offers to get their relationship even closer but Marcone says no and keeps it strictly business. Thomas notes this is the second time a guy said no to Lara in a century. Harry being the first.]]
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Used by Maeve, against Harry...''again.'' And once again, she's pissed when he breaks free from her influence. [[spoiler:It's really just a ploy to throw him off his game, so he'll run into ''another'' trap.]]

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** As mentioned in DiamondsInTheBuff, Maeve wore just diamonds for Harry's birthday. He doesn't ignore her as so much shoot shut her temptations dead down on arrival with a brutal verbal smack down.
smackdown.
** [[spoiler:Thomas revealed reveals that Marcone has ignored flat-out refused Lara's offers to get make their relationship even closer but Marcone says no and keeps it strictly business.professional relationship... closer. Thomas notes this is the second time a guy said no to Lara in a century. Harry being the first.]]
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Used by Maeve, against Harry...''again.'' And once again, she's pissed when he breaks free from her influence.it doesn't work. [[spoiler:It's really just a ploy to throw him off his game, so he'll run into ''another'' trap.]]
21st Oct '16 9:57:18 AM scionofgrace
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* GoodAllAlong: [[spoiler:Mab, sort of. It turns out that her desire to have Maeve killed is completely justified, and she's relatively humane to Harry after everything wraps up. She's still a scary, scary Sidhe Queen, though. Oh and her job is to make sure that reality is kept safe by any means]]
* GoodCounterpart: Harry always assumed the Summer Knight was Summer's hitman, just like the Winter Knight is Winter's. It turns out this is false. In reality, the Summer Knight's job is simply to stop the Winter Knight.

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* GoodAllAlong: [[spoiler:Mab, sort of. It turns out that her desire to have having Maeve killed is completely justified, and she's relatively humane to Harry after everything wraps up.that her real purpose is defending our universe from the Outsiders. She's still a scary, scary Sidhe Queen, though. Oh and her job is to make sure that reality is kept safe by any means]]\n]]
* GoodCounterpart: Harry always assumed the Summer Knight was Summer's hitman, just like the Winter Knight is Winter's. It turns out this is false. In reality, that the Summer Knight's job is simply to stop the Winter Knight.



** It's been known from her introduction that Mab isn't really ''evil'', any more than a blizzard is evil. But you don't want to invite a blizzard inside your house.

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** It's been known from her introduction that Mab isn't really ''evil'', any more than a blizzard is evil. But you don't want to invite a blizzard inside into your house.



** Maeve states that [[spoiler:tricking Harry into combat the Redcap, sicking a second band upon Harry later, and all enjoying it]] is her being a ''good person''. [[spoiler:It's a ruse to trick Lily and Harry into believing her lies]].

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** Maeve states that [[spoiler:tricking Harry into combat with the Redcap, sicking siccing a second band upon Harry later, and all enjoying all of it]] is her being a ''good person''. [[spoiler:It's a ruse to trick Lily and Harry into believing her lies]].



* UsefulNotes/GunSafety: [[spoiler:After killing Maeve in the climax]] Murphy displays this still by checking the piece she just fired, placing the safety on, and then handing the gun over.

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* UsefulNotes/GunSafety: [[spoiler:After killing Maeve in the climax]] Murphy displays this is still by checking sure to check the piece she just fired, placing fired and put the safety on, and then back on before handing the gun it over.



* HiddenSupplies: Sarissa, Mab's pet mortal, has been around the Winter Court long enough to not walk around defenseless. [[spoiler:At the formal party at the beginning of the book, Sarissa hides iron on her body in her hair decorations to be at easy access if something happens]].

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* HiddenSupplies: Sarissa, Mab's pet mortal, has been around the Winter Court long enough to not walk around defenseless. [[spoiler:At the formal party at the beginning [[spoiler:She wore a couple of the book, Sarissa hides hair chopsticks with iron on her body hidden in her hair decorations them to be at easy access if something happens]].Harry's birthday ball, just in case]].
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