History Literature / ColdDays

24th Dec '16 7:42:47 AM Gosicrystal
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* DistinctionWithoutADifference:
** When speaking with [[spoiler:Demonreach]] he tells Harry, he did not bully [[spoiler:Queen Mab]] for help in ''Ghost Story.'' He bargained.
** In showing his wisdom, Harry defuses an argument between Mother Winter and Mother Summer over the matter of his arrival. He denies Mother Summer's claim that he was [[spoiler:rudely dragged to her home against his will, but rather a firm invitation]]. Mother Winter approves.
** Molly refutes Harry's claim she borrowed money [[spoiler:from the White Court's emergency funds]]. She just plainly states she stole it.



-->'''Harry''': Real goblins are like mutant Terminator serial killer psycho ninjas. Think Hannibal Lecter meets Jackie Chan.
* NoExceptYes:
** When speaking with [[spoiler:Demonreach]] he tells Harry, he did not bully [[spoiler:Queen Mab]] for help in ''Ghost Story.'' He bargained.
** In showing his wisdom, Harry defuses an argument between Mother Winter and Mother Summer over the matter of his arrival. He denies Mother Summer's claim that he was [[spoiler:rudely dragged to her home against his will, but rather a firm invitation]]. Mother Winter approves.
** Molly refutes Harry's claim she borrowed money [[spoiler:from the White Court's emergency funds.]] She just plainly states she stole it.

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-->'''Harry''': -->'''Harry:''' Real goblins are like mutant Terminator serial killer psycho ninjas. Think Hannibal Lecter meets Jackie Chan.
* NoExceptYes:
** When speaking with [[spoiler:Demonreach]] he tells Harry, he did not bully [[spoiler:Queen Mab]] for help in ''Ghost Story.'' He bargained.
** In showing his wisdom, Harry defuses an argument between Mother Winter and Mother Summer over the matter of his arrival. He denies Mother Summer's claim that he was [[spoiler:rudely dragged to her home against his will, but rather a firm invitation]]. Mother Winter approves.
** Molly refutes Harry's claim she borrowed money [[spoiler:from the White Court's emergency funds.]] She just plainly states she stole it.
Chan.
29th Nov '16 9:44:49 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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** [[spoiler: Mab is TheSpock, Titania is TheMcCoy. Yet the plot is set in motion because of Mab being emotional- she can't kill Maeve herself because she loves her. And when Harry meets Titania, she notes that the wisdom of her heart says that she should ''hate'' Harry for killing Aurora- but she lets him go because, logically, Harry needed to do it (since Aurora was [[spoiler: possessed by Nemesis]]) and killing Harry wouldn't give her Aurora back. And then there's Mab's actions in the final chapter- when Harry threatens her with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, she actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].

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** [[spoiler: Mab is TheSpock, Titania is TheMcCoy. Yet the plot is set in motion because of Mab being emotional- she can't kill Maeve herself because she loves her. And when Harry meets Titania, she notes that the wisdom of her heart says that she should ''hate'' Harry for killing Aurora- but she lets him go because, logically, Harry needed to do it (since Aurora was [[spoiler: possessed by Nemesis]]) Nemesis) and killing Harry wouldn't give her Aurora back. And then there's Mab's actions in the final chapter- when Harry threatens her with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, she actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].
29th Nov '16 9:44:02 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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** [[spoiler:Mab. Everything she does in the book's final chapter is against character. She loves her daughter, and cannot bear to kill her, necessary as it may be. When Harry threatens Mab with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, Mab actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].

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** [[spoiler:Mab. Everything [[spoiler: Mab is TheSpock, Titania is TheMcCoy. Yet the plot is set in motion because of Mab being emotional- she does can't kill Maeve herself because she loves her. And when Harry meets Titania, she notes that the wisdom of her heart says that she should ''hate'' Harry for killing Aurora- but she lets him go because, logically, Harry needed to do it (since Aurora was [[spoiler: possessed by Nemesis]]) and killing Harry wouldn't give her Aurora back. And then there's Mab's actions in the book's final chapter is against character. She loves her daughter, and cannot bear to kill her, necessary as it may be. When chapter- when Harry threatens Mab her with imprisonment in Demonsreach, she shows genuine fear. When Harry worries about Molly, Mab she actually tries to comfort him. In the end, she reveals a secret of herself to Harry]].
29th Nov '16 9:35:06 PM AnonFangeekGirl
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* ComicallyMissingThePoint: Maeve attempts to get Sarrisa's goat by commenting on the dress she wore to the party at the beginning of the book. Sarrisa counters by pointing out that Maeve was dressed like a stripper, wearing nothing but rhinestones. Maeve, incensed, fires back "[[PunctuatedForEmphasis They. Were. Diamonds!]]"

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* ComicallyMissingThePoint: Maeve attempts tries to get Sarrisa's goat to Sarissa by commenting on mocking how skimpy the dress she wore to the Harry's party at the beginning of the book. Sarrisa counters by pointing (supposedly) was. Sarissa points out that Maeve was dressed like a stripper, wearing really has no room to talk given that ''her'' outfit consisted of [[DiamondsInTheBuff rhinestones and nothing but rhinestones. Maeve, incensed, fires back "[[PunctuatedForEmphasis They. Were. Diamonds!]]"else]]. Maeve is incensed- they weren't rhinestones, they were ''diamonds''!



** Harry gets tipped off to the fact that [[spoiler:Cat Sith has been suborned by the Outsiders when "Cat" threatens him instead of filleting him instantly when Harry wasn't looking]].


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* OutOfCharacterAlert: Harry realizes that [[spoiler: Cat Sith and Maeve]] have been suborned by Nemesis when they show some moments of this (although it took him a while to realize what Maeve's moment)- [[spoiler: Cat Sith gloats to Harry instead of just killing him from ambush, and Maeve gives a straight, easy-to-understand rundown of the events with no roundaboutness, ambiguity, or ExactWords to speak of (which is basically impossible to the fae, as being indirect is part of their nature)]].
31st Oct '16 8:26:56 AM Kafkesque
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*** And as it turns out, one of Kringle's ''other'' names is [[spoiler:Odin.]]
28th Oct '16 4:34:30 PM Kafkesque
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After months of surviving increasingly bizarre and daily assassination attempts by Mab as part of his therapy, the Queen of Air and Darkness declares her new Knight ready for his first assignment. However, in the process of carrying it out, Harry quickly realizes that his life is even more complicated than he initially thought.

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After months of surviving daily and increasingly bizarre and daily assassination attempts by Mab as part of his therapy, the Queen of Air and Darkness declares her new Knight ready for his first assignment. However, in the process of carrying it out, Harry quickly realizes that his life is even more complicated than he initially thought.
21st Oct '16 10:13:22 AM scionofgrace
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** Captain Hook, so named for his armor's attire, [[spoiler:is unknowingly taken prisoner by Harry during his escape from the Botanical Gardens because the hooks get caught in Harry's coat and the small fae was pounded just a bit too much to escape]].

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** Captain Hook, so named for his armor's attire, armor, [[spoiler:is unknowingly taken prisoner by Harry during his escape from the Botanical Gardens because the hooks get caught in Harry's coat and the small fae was pounded just a bit too much to escape]].



** Part of Kringle's duty is being this. He shows kindness and hope in the cold darkness.

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** Part of Kringle's duty is being this. He shows displaying kindness and hope in the cold darkness.



* HumanityIsInsane: It is postulated the reason magic goes all wonky about mortal magic users, and previously showed up as milk curdling or the whole warts and lesions, is because humans are this. Even the most normal wizard still suffers from internal conflicts and this causes the issues. Fae, being of absolute belief in their actions, lack this and thus can use modern tech.
* HumanityIsSuperior: Compared to most every other supernatural force in existence, humans are weak. Humans lack the physical strength some fae, like ogres have, don't have the brilliant minds or powerful magic, like even Toot-toot can draw on, aren't physical gods like the Queens and Odin, and don't predate the Universe like the Angels and Fallen. But against all that, the one thing Humanity has that can trump all of them [[spoiler:is Free Will. No force, no power can strip that from a human]].

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* HumanityIsInsane: It is postulated It's debated that the reason human magic goes all wonky about mortal magic users, and previously showed up as milk curdling doesn't play nice with electronics (or food, or the whole warts and lesions, a wizard's complexion, in previous centuries) is because humans are this. Even the most normal wizard still suffers from conflicted and full of inconsistencies. Fae lack any kind of internal conflicts and this causes the issues. Fae, being of absolute belief in their actions, lack this conflict and thus can use modern tech.
* HumanityIsSuperior: Compared to most every other supernatural force in existence, humans are weak. Humans lack the physical strength some fae, like ogres have, don't have and/or physical grace nor the brilliant minds or powerful magic, like even Toot-toot can draw on, potent magic of the Fae, aren't physical gods like the Queens and Odin, and don't predate the Universe like the Angels and Fallen. But against all that, the one thing Humanity has that can trump all of them [[spoiler:is Free Will. No force, no power can strip that from a human]].



** Molly notes that [[spoiler:the White Court, and specifically Lara, holds this by not maintaining better control over who has access to their emergency fund card, and so able to access to practically limitless funds of White Court money.]] And Molly shows this by stealing a bit of it.
** Harry calls Molly out on holding it by not trying to rebuild a relationship with certain members of the White Council. Sure, most are jerks, but to burn her bridges now and then 100 years down the line, rebuilding them is all the harder. Harry lampshades that he wished he had realized this years ago as it might have made his life easier.
** Mab considers Harry holding it twice. First [[spoiler:when he fell into Maeve's gambit at the party]]. Second came [[spoiler:from him not realizing sooner that he could use the giant magic circle Lily and Maeve crafted to summon her sooner than he had]].
** [[spoiler:Winter Queen Mab]] realizes she held it for [[spoiler:failing to anticipate Maeve could just kill Lily in a final act against her. Or that's what she wants Maeve to think, since she had already planned for something like this eventuality]].
** Harry and Molly both admit they held the ball back in ''Changes'' by allowing Molly to come to the final battle and her part in his attempted suicide. Harry should have stopped her as her Mentor and Molly admits she was too thick-headed to have listened to the warnings back then. Now they must just deal with the consequences and move on.

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** Molly notes that [[spoiler:the White Court, and specifically Lara, holds this by not maintaining better control over who has access to their emergency fund card, and so able to access to practically limitless funds of White Court money.]] And Molly shows this by stealing a bit So she takes advantage of it.
it while she can.
** Harry calls accuses Molly out on of holding it by not trying to rebuild a relationship with certain members of the White Council. Sure, most are jerks, but to burn her bridges now and then 100 years down the line, rebuilding them is all the harder. Harry lampshades that he wished he had realized this years ago as it might have made his life easier.
** Mab considers Harry holding to have held it twice. First [[spoiler:when he fell into Maeve's gambit at the party]]. Second came [[spoiler:from him not realizing sooner that he could use the giant magic circle Lily and Maeve crafted to summon her sooner than he had]].
** [[spoiler:Winter Queen Mab]] realizes acts like she held it for [[spoiler:failing to anticipate Maeve could just kill Lily in a final act against her. Or that's what she wants Maeve to think, since she had already Turns out she'd planned for something like this eventuality]].
that too]].
** Harry and Molly both admit they held the ball back in ''Changes'' by allowing Molly to come to the final battle and her part in his attempted suicide. Harry should have stopped her as her Mentor and Molly admits she was too thick-headed to have listened to the warnings back then. Now All they must just can do now is deal with the consequences and move on.



** As mentioned in DiamondsInTheBuff, Maeve wore just diamonds for Harry's birthday. He doesn't ignore her as so much shoot her temptations dead on arrival with a brutal verbal smack down.
** [[spoiler:Thomas revealed Marcone has ignored Lara's offers to get their relationship even closer but Marcone says no and keeps it strictly business. Thomas notes this is the second time a guy said no to Lara in a century. Harry being the first.]]
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Used by Maeve, against Harry...''again.'' And once again, she's pissed when he breaks free from her influence. [[spoiler:It's really just a ploy to throw him off his game, so he'll run into ''another'' trap.]]

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** As mentioned in DiamondsInTheBuff, Maeve wore just diamonds for Harry's birthday. He doesn't ignore her as so much shoot shut her temptations dead down on arrival with a brutal verbal smack down.
smackdown.
** [[spoiler:Thomas revealed reveals that Marcone has ignored flat-out refused Lara's offers to get make their relationship even closer but Marcone says no and keeps it strictly business.professional relationship... closer. Thomas notes this is the second time a guy said no to Lara in a century. Harry being the first.]]
* IHaveBoobsYouMustObey: Used by Maeve, against Harry...''again.'' And once again, she's pissed when he breaks free from her influence.it doesn't work. [[spoiler:It's really just a ploy to throw him off his game, so he'll run into ''another'' trap.]]
21st Oct '16 9:57:18 AM scionofgrace
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* GoodAllAlong: [[spoiler:Mab, sort of. It turns out that her desire to have Maeve killed is completely justified, and she's relatively humane to Harry after everything wraps up. She's still a scary, scary Sidhe Queen, though. Oh and her job is to make sure that reality is kept safe by any means]]
* GoodCounterpart: Harry always assumed the Summer Knight was Summer's hitman, just like the Winter Knight is Winter's. It turns out this is false. In reality, the Summer Knight's job is simply to stop the Winter Knight.

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* GoodAllAlong: [[spoiler:Mab, sort of. It turns out that her desire to have having Maeve killed is completely justified, and she's relatively humane to Harry after everything wraps up.that her real purpose is defending our universe from the Outsiders. She's still a scary, scary Sidhe Queen, though. Oh and her job is to make sure that reality is kept safe by any means]]\n]]
* GoodCounterpart: Harry always assumed the Summer Knight was Summer's hitman, just like the Winter Knight is Winter's. It turns out this is false. In reality, that the Summer Knight's job is simply to stop the Winter Knight.



** It's been known from her introduction that Mab isn't really ''evil'', any more than a blizzard is evil. But you don't want to invite a blizzard inside your house.

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** It's been known from her introduction that Mab isn't really ''evil'', any more than a blizzard is evil. But you don't want to invite a blizzard inside into your house.



** Maeve states that [[spoiler:tricking Harry into combat the Redcap, sicking a second band upon Harry later, and all enjoying it]] is her being a ''good person''. [[spoiler:It's a ruse to trick Lily and Harry into believing her lies]].

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** Maeve states that [[spoiler:tricking Harry into combat with the Redcap, sicking siccing a second band upon Harry later, and all enjoying all of it]] is her being a ''good person''. [[spoiler:It's a ruse to trick Lily and Harry into believing her lies]].



* UsefulNotes/GunSafety: [[spoiler:After killing Maeve in the climax]] Murphy displays this still by checking the piece she just fired, placing the safety on, and then handing the gun over.

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* UsefulNotes/GunSafety: [[spoiler:After killing Maeve in the climax]] Murphy displays this is still by checking sure to check the piece she just fired, placing fired and put the safety on, and then back on before handing the gun it over.



* HiddenSupplies: Sarissa, Mab's pet mortal, has been around the Winter Court long enough to not walk around defenseless. [[spoiler:At the formal party at the beginning of the book, Sarissa hides iron on her body in her hair decorations to be at easy access if something happens]].

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* HiddenSupplies: Sarissa, Mab's pet mortal, has been around the Winter Court long enough to not walk around defenseless. [[spoiler:At the formal party at the beginning [[spoiler:She wore a couple of the book, Sarissa hides hair chopsticks with iron on her body hidden in her hair decorations them to be at easy access if something happens]].Harry's birthday ball, just in case]].
21st Oct '16 9:31:05 AM scionofgrace
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** Harry states this trope when he sees [[spoiler:Captain Hook is a female fae]].

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** Harry states this trope when he sees [[spoiler:Captain Hook is a female fae]].female]].



* TheDreaded: As the Winter Knight, Harry is this to Fix. Fix had previously said that most Summer Knights meet their ends at the hands of the Winter Knight, and the stakes of losing are unbelievably high. This fear is not helped by the fact that Harry is also an incredibly dangerous wizard, and therefore far, far more powerful than his predecessor.

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* TheDreaded: As the Winter Knight, Harry is this to Fix. Fix had previously said that most Summer Knights meet their ends at the hands of the Winter Knight, and the stakes of losing are unbelievably high. This fear is not helped by the fact It doesn't help that Harry is also an incredibly dangerous wizard, and therefore far, far more was a powerful than his predecessor.wizard to begin with.



** The price of holding or accessing the Winter Knight's mantle is this—increasing instability, violence, and psychopathy.

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** The price of holding or accessing the Winter Knight's mantle is this—increasing this: increasing instability, violence, and psychopathy.



* DueToTheDead: [[spoiler:Mab asks Harry's permission to bury Maeve and Lily on Demonreach. Harry is fine and just asks Mab to confirm with Demonreach first.]]

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* DueToTheDead: [[spoiler:Mab asks Harry's permission to bury Maeve and Lily on Demonreach. Harry is Harry's fine and just asks Mab to confirm with it, but suggests she check with Demonreach first.]]



** The Chicago Alliance still falls under this. When [[spoiler:Harry was injured neither Thomas nor Karrin want to take him to Marcone's or Lara's doctors for fear of what they could do with his blood]]. The only thing that brings them together in a unified force is when the Fomor try to attack Mac's.

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** The Chicago Alliance still falls under this. When [[spoiler:Harry was injured neither Thomas nor Karrin want to take him to Marcone's or Lara's doctors for fear of what they could do with his blood]]. The only thing that brings them together in a unified force is when the Fomor try to attack Mac's.



** Harry invokes this [[spoiler:with Fix by the plural pronoun "we" and conjugations for it while he is still undecided but now uneasy about Maeve's intentions]].

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** Harry invokes this [[spoiler:with Fix just by the plural pronoun "we" and conjugations for it while he is still undecided but now uneasy about Maeve's intentions]].switching to "we"]].



** Harry [[spoiler:upon seeing Mab's resolution and hearing Karrin breath sharply at Maeve turning her gun to Harry, realized Mab's final gambit to beat Maeve was preparing Molly to be a suitable vessel to be a Sidhe Queen and having her hide on the island, ready to take the mantle into her should the need arise]].

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** Harry [[spoiler:upon seeing Mab's resolution and hearing Karrin breath breathe sharply at Maeve turning her gun to Harry, realized Mab's final gambit to beat Maeve was preparing Molly to be a suitable vessel to be a Sidhe Queen and having her hide on the island, ready to take the mantle into her should the need arise]].



** Mother Winter is a lady who enjoys death, tragedy, and pain. She would likely love watching the most bloody and desperate battles in human history with some popcorn in hand. [[spoiler:But tell her ''Nemesis'' is behind an upcoming tragedy and she changes her mind just slightly]]. Also, she apparently enjoys said battles because she believes life is only worth anything when it has to be fought for. This troper is really not sure how to feel about that.
* EvilGloating: Invoked. [[spoiler:Harry knows most every megalomaniac loves to do this( it is sort of in the definition of megalomania). So, to buy time, he gets Maeve to go at it]].

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** Mother Winter is a lady who enjoys death, tragedy, and pain. She would likely love watching Show her the most bloody and desperate battles in human history with history, and she'd probably grab some popcorn in hand. popcorn. [[spoiler:But tell her ''Nemesis'' is behind an upcoming tragedy it and she changes her mind just slightly]]. Also, she apparently enjoys said battles because she believes life is only worth anything when it has to be fought for. This troper is really not sure how to feel about that.everything changes]].
* EvilGloating: Invoked. [[spoiler:Harry knows most every megalomaniac loves to do this( it is sort of in the definition of megalomania). So, to buy time, he gets buys time by prodding Maeve to go at it]].into gloating]].
21st Oct '16 9:15:19 AM scionofgrace
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* DesignatedVictim: [[spoiler:Andi the werewolf.]] It's lampshaded that the person just keeps getting kidnapped.

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* DesignatedVictim: [[spoiler:Andi the werewolf.]] It's lampshaded that Lampshaded for not being the person just keeps getting kidnapped.first time.



** The Redcap and Maeve didn't see [[spoiler:Sarissa being smart enough, and crazy enough, to bring ''iron'' into a ball filled with Fae. She hid it in her hair rods]].
** The Fae who gives Harry a "Who do you think you are?" speech didn't think Harry could be any threat to him. [[spoiler:He doesn't live long enough to regret that assumption. Hell, [[KilledMidSentence he doesn't live long enough to finish his speech]].]]

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** The Redcap and Maeve didn't see [[spoiler:Sarissa being smart enough, and crazy enough, to bring ''iron'' into a ball filled with Fae. She hid it in the chopsticks in her hair rods]].
hair]].
** The Fae who gives Harry a "Who do you think you are?" speech didn't think Harry could be any threat to him. [[spoiler:He doesn't live long enough to regret that assumption.it. Hell, [[KilledMidSentence he doesn't live long enough to finish his speech]].]]



** [[spoiler:Maeve also didn't see what was happening with Molly, instead focusing on just Sarissa being there to replace her]].
** [[spoiler:Fix didn't see Harry not using all of the Winter instincts against him and the idea Harry could resort to taunting to throw him off balance]].

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** [[spoiler:Maeve also didn't see what was happening with Molly, instead focusing so focused on just Sarissa being there to replace her]].
groomed as a Winter Lady that she didn't realize Mab had a second backup]].
** [[spoiler:Fix didn't see Harry not using all of fighting the Winter instincts against him and the idea Harry could resort to taunting Mantle's influence, or using taunts to throw him off balance]].Fix off-balance]].
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