History Literature / AgainstAllOdds

17th Nov '15 4:55:11 PM ViperhawkZ
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* ILoveNuclearPower: Not in the superpower-giving sense, but nuclear power generation is much more popular than in real life, thanks to nuclear weapons being a lesser threat and major disasters like Chernobyl and Three Mile Island not happening. The largest nuclear disaster in this timeline happened when the American Diablo Canyon plant was destroyed in an earthquake.
21st Aug '15 8:25:42 AM Jake18
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* ReportingNames: The Allied Pact has these for aircraft of the Wake Island Association.

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* ReportingNames: The Allied Pact has these for aircraft of the Wake Island Association.Association-which are exactly the same as the real-life names for said aircraft.
14th May '15 6:55:20 PM Jake18
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* CoolShip: Several such as the Type 82 destroyers, Implacable-class fleet carriers, Lion and Union-class battleships are a few examples

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* CoolShip: Several such as the Type 82 destroyers, Implacable-class ''Implacable''-class fleet carriers, Lion ''Lion'' and Union-class ''Union''-class battleships are a few examples



* VillainTeamUp: Nazi Germany and Soviet Union against the Allies.

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* VillainTeamUp: Nazi Germany and Soviet Union against the Allies.Allies.
* YouShallNotPass: The cruiser ''HMS Thunderchild'' engages a superior IJN force to buy time for civillian transports fleeing Hong Kong. ''Thunderchild'' sinks, but the transports escape.
** The ''HMS Hood'' engages the massive Japanese battleship ''Yamato'' to protect an Allied destroyer convoy. The ''Hood'' sustains severe damage but survives thanks to the ''Yamato'' receiving a false submarine warning.
14th May '15 10:21:57 AM Morgenthaler
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* ForcesWithFirepower: Almost everyone gets in on the action, but here are some notables:
** BritsWithBattleships: And aircraft carriers as well. The world's premier fighting force.
*** UltimateDefenceOfTheRealm: The British Empire's Project [[ShoutOut Torchwood]] is the first to create nuclear weapons; Britain's also the only one who's used them - one on the Nazis, two on the Soviets.
** CanucksWithChinooks: In this case, Canucks with carriers. The number two in the Allies, out of necessity - they share a border with the commies. Part of the nuclear club, thanks to a more war-hardened Trudeau.
--> '''Trekaddict''': But fear not, for as long as there is Canada, there will be Canadian Carriers.
** ChineseWithChopperSupport / TheOtherChineseArmy: There are five Chinese armies, in fact. The Republic of China, the People's Republic of China, Manchuria, Shinjang and Tibet. Both the ROC and PRC are major military powers; the former has a high-tech, professional army like OTL Taiwan but on a much larger scale, while the latter has a theoretical strength of "every person between 20 and 45 years old," a la OTL North Korea.
*** TheDragonsTeeth: Both of them are also nuclear powers.
** GaulsWithGrenades: Most notable during WW2 when they get away with a much larger chunk of their forces than OTL, but they're still one of the big boys.
*** TheUltimateResistance
** KaijuDefenseForce: West Japan has an actual military this time around, while communist East Japan is restricted to a civilian defence force like OTL Japan.
*** KatanasOfTheRisingSun: One of the major players in WW2.
** PolesWithPoleaxes: A disproportionately large player in the Allied pact. They know how bad the communists can be first-hand after spending several years partly under Stalin's yoke.
** RedsWithRockets: A big Axis power in WW2, where they were defeated. Actually better off than OTL's Russia in the modern day, since they're much mellower and haven't gone bankrupt, though they did get their asses handed to them in Chechnya and are losing ground in the rest of the Caucasus.
*** FromRussiaWithNukes: Not an official Nuclear Weapons State, since their surrender agreement after the war banned them, but they have a small stockpile under an opacity program, like OTL Israel.
** WeAreNotTheWehrmacht: The Allied Pact's number three. Being allowed to exist was what drove France out of the group.
*** NazisWithGnarlyWeapons: The other big Axis country.
** YanksWithTanks: The biggest military of the Wake Island Association and the main reason the Allies need to keep their soldiers around. Also a significant force in the Pacific Theatre back in WW2.
*** PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower: Second country to have 'em.
30th Mar '15 8:47:07 PM Jake18
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The main story can be found on the Paradox Interactive forums [[http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?358111-Against-all-Odds-The-British-Empire-in-World-War-Two here]]. Has its own wiki [[http://againstallodds.wikia.com/wiki/Against_All_Odds_Wiki here]], with links to all of the associated stories.

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The main story can be found on the Paradox Interactive forums [[http://forum.[[https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?358111-Against-all-Odds-The-British-Empire-in-World-War-Two here]].com/forum/index.php?threads/against-all-odds-the-british-empire-in-world-war-two.358111/]]. Has its own wiki [[http://againstallodds.wikia.com/wiki/Against_All_Odds_Wiki here]], with links to all of the associated stories.
7th Feb '15 7:28:31 PM ViperhawkZ
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* BritsWithBattleships: And aircraft carriers as well.
* CanucksWithChinooks: In this case, Canucks with carriers.
--> '''Trekaddict''': But fear not, for as long as there is Canada, there will be Canadian Carriers.



* ForcesWithFirepower: Almost everyone gets in on the action, but here are some notables:
** BritsWithBattleships: And aircraft carriers as well. The world's premier fighting force.
*** UltimateDefenceOfTheRealm: The British Empire's Project [[ShoutOut Torchwood]] is the first to create nuclear weapons; Britain's also the only one who's used them - one on the Nazis, two on the Soviets.
** CanucksWithChinooks: In this case, Canucks with carriers. The number two in the Allies, out of necessity - they share a border with the commies. Part of the nuclear club, thanks to a more war-hardened Trudeau.
--> '''Trekaddict''': But fear not, for as long as there is Canada, there will be Canadian Carriers.
** ChineseWithChopperSupport / TheOtherChineseArmy: There are five Chinese armies, in fact. The Republic of China, the People's Republic of China, Manchuria, Shinjang and Tibet. Both the ROC and PRC are major military powers; the former has a high-tech, professional army like OTL Taiwan but on a much larger scale, while the latter has a theoretical strength of "every person between 20 and 45 years old," a la OTL North Korea.
*** TheDragonsTeeth: Both of them are also nuclear powers.
** GaulsWithGrenades: Most notable during WW2 when they get away with a much larger chunk of their forces than OTL, but they're still one of the big boys.
*** TheUltimateResistance
** KaijuDefenseForce: West Japan has an actual military this time around, while communist East Japan is restricted to a civilian defence force like OTL Japan.
*** KatanasOfTheRisingSun: One of the major players in WW2.
** PolesWithPoleaxes: A disproportionately large player in the Allied pact. They know how bad the communists can be first-hand after spending several years partly under Stalin's yoke.
** RedsWithRockets: A big Axis power in WW2, where they were defeated. Actually better off than OTL's Russia in the modern day, since they're much mellower and haven't gone bankrupt, though they did get their asses handed to them in Chechnya and are losing ground in the rest of the Caucasus.
*** FromRussiaWithNukes: Not an official Nuclear Weapons State, since their surrender agreement after the war banned them, but they have a small stockpile under an opacity program, like OTL Israel.
** WeAreNotTheWehrmacht: The Allied Pact's number three. Being allowed to exist was what drove France out of the group.
*** NazisWithGnarlyWeapons: The other big Axis country.
** YanksWithTanks: The biggest military of the Wake Island Association and the main reason the Allies need to keep their soldiers around. Also a significant force in the Pacific Theatre back in WW2.
*** PeaceThroughSuperiorFirepower: Second country to have 'em.



* TheOtherChineseArmy: Five of them infact. There is the Republic of China, People's Republic of China, Manchuria, Shinjang and Tibet
* UltimateDefenceOfTheRealm: The British Empire's Project [[ShoutOut Torchwood]] is the first to create nuclear weapons; Britain's also the only one who's used them - one on the Nazis, two on the Soviets.
7th Feb '15 6:48:32 PM ViperhawkZ
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* RichardNixonTheUsedCarSalesman: In this case, Saddam Hussein the Used Car Salesman. Fidel Castro also ends up a baseball player rather than a revolutionary.
7th Feb '15 6:38:39 PM ViperhawkZ
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* DifferentWorldDifferentMovies: With the US going communist in the 30s, culture is radically different in many areas. For example:
** John Lennon exists, but rock and roll never became popular so he does movie soundtracks instead.
** One of the most acclaimed pieces of media in the setting is ''The Last War'', a six-season British-Canadian-German TV series depicting the Cold War going hot.
** George Orwell's book was published a year later, as ''Nineteen Ninety-Four''.
** There is a niche West Japanese video game called ''Capsumon''.
27th Jan '15 6:50:01 AM NemuruMaeNi
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The world of ''Against All Odds'' diverges from our own in 1901, when US President William Mckinley survives an assassination attempt which was fatal in our own timeline. This small change sets off a [[ForWantOfANail chain of events]] which results in the United States falling to a communist revolution in the early 1930s. Finding itself increasingly alone, Britain takes the plunge and enacts Imperial Federation, giving her colonies equal status with the United Kingdom. ''The British Empire in World War II'' follows [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin exactly what it says it does]], chronicling the Empire's struggle against an Unholy Alliance of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, as well as Japan. Other stories in the series include ''The Nerve of War'' and ''Operation Tidespring'', both set during flashpoints of the Cold War that follows.

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The world of ''Against All Odds'' diverges from our own in 1901, when US President William Mckinley survives an assassination attempt which was fatal in our own timeline. This small change sets off a [[ForWantOfANail chain of events]] which results in the United States falling to a communist revolution in the early 1930s. Finding itself increasingly alone, Britain takes the plunge and enacts Imperial Federation, giving her colonies equal status with the United Kingdom. ''The British Empire in World War II'' follows [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin exactly what it says it does]], does, chronicling the Empire's struggle against an Unholy Alliance of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, as well as Japan. Other stories in the series include ''The Nerve of War'' and ''Operation Tidespring'', both set during flashpoints of the Cold War that follows.



* UsefulNotes/ColdWar: Between the Allied Pact led by the British Empire and the Wake Island Association led by the Union of American People's Republics.



* UsefulNotes/FalklandsWar
* UsefulNotes/FromRussiaWithNukes: During the Cold War, the neutral Soviet Union builds up a small number of nuclear weapons. Since they're technically forbidden from having them by various treaties, a policy of opacity regarding them (like real-life Isreal) is used.



* TheWikiRule: It does indeed have a [[http://againstallodds.wikia.com wiki]]
24th Nov '14 8:13:08 AM LongLiveHumour
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* FalklandsWar
* FromRussiaWithNukes: During the Cold War, the neutral Soviet Union builds up a small number of nuclear weapons. Since they're technically forbidden from having them by various treaties, a policy of opacity regarding them (like real-life Isreal) is used.

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* FalklandsWar
UsefulNotes/FalklandsWar
* FromRussiaWithNukes: UsefulNotes/FromRussiaWithNukes: During the Cold War, the neutral Soviet Union builds up a small number of nuclear weapons. Since they're technically forbidden from having them by various treaties, a policy of opacity regarding them (like real-life Isreal) is used.
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