History Literature / AClashOfKings

3rd Oct '16 8:26:41 AM leraluna
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** Old nan is unlikely to be believed even this time that she correctly guesses the red comet means the return of dragons.
2nd Oct '16 4:53:16 AM leraluna
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* FlowerMotif: Even after blue winter roses appear:
** They are stated to be a symbol of forbidden love and the central theme of Bael the Bard's legend of [[AbductionIsLove his affair with Lord Stark's daughter]].
** Blue roses appear again with Lyanna in Theon's nightmare of the Winterfell crypts.
** [[spoiler: In the house of the Undying Daenerys sees the blue winter rose growing from a wall of ice - obviously the Wall. Now read the other two entries and make of this what you want.]]
2nd Oct '16 4:37:13 AM leraluna
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* {{Irony}}: Jon is surprised to note that while the experienced members of the Great Ranging are slowly getting more and more unnerved on the trek, self-professed coward Samwell is actually getting braver.

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* {{Irony}}: {{Irony}}:
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Jon is surprised to note that while the experienced members of the Great Ranging are slowly getting more and more unnerved on the trek, self-professed coward Samwell is actually getting braver.braver.
** In her first chapter Sansa thinks of Bran and that she'd give everything to be with him in Winterfell. [[spoiler: In this case she's actually ''lucky'', since Theon betrays Robb, Winterfell ends up in the firing line of the Ironborn invasion and Theon states he could have forced Sansa to marry him to strengthen his claim of Winterfell, and regrets not having her around.]]
** While prisoner in the Riverlands, Arya hears an old man lamenting that none of this mess would have happened during the old king's reign. Arya thinks he was referring to King Robert, but the old man meant [[TheCaligula King Aerys]].
*** What is even more ironic is that the earlier stages of Aerys' reign were relatively peaceful due to Tywin Lannister's administration, and Tywin Lannister is now the one who is making the Riverlands bleed.
13th Sep '16 2:00:13 PM leraluna
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* LaxativePrank: When Tyrion is too busy trying to save the city to struggle with Cersei's schemes he uses a mild poison with this effect to get her out of his hair for one day.
13th Sep '16 1:09:00 PM leraluna
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** Also Theon dreams the feast in Winterfell for King Robert turning into a gruesome butchery, with the hosts being dead people. [[spoiler: Theon wakes up panicking as he sees Robb joining them.]]


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* NightmareSequence: Theon has a huge one where he dreams of a feast in Winterfell where the hosts are all dead people who use to be in the household (Jory Cassel, Fat Tom), or he himself killed (Farlen, Osha's companion), or long-dead Starks (Lyanna, Brandon, their father and even previous generations). [[spoiler: [[{{Foreshadowing}} When Robb and Greywind join them]], he wakes up screaming.]]
13th Sep '16 12:44:52 PM leraluna
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-->'''Catelyn''': Listen to yourselves! If you were sons of mine, I would bang your heads together and lock you in a
bedchamber until you remembered that you were brothers.

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-->'''Catelyn''': Listen to yourselves! If you were sons of mine, I would bang your heads together and lock you in a
a bedchamber until you remembered that you were brothers.
13th Sep '16 12:42:49 PM leraluna
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!!This novel provides examples of:

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!!This novel provides examples of:
!!A Clash of Tropes:

* AbsenceMakesTheHeartGoYonder: While Jaime is held captive by Robb Stark, his younger brother Tyrion tries to come up with an exchange to get Jaime back, while his [[BrotherSisterIncest sister/lover]] Cersei starts sleeping with Lancel, their [[KissingCousins cousin]].



* AndNowYouMustMarryMe: [[spoiler: When he takes Winterfell]], Theon regrets not having Sansa around so he could have forced her to marry him [[spoiler: to strength his claim of Winterfell]].



* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning

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* AwesomeMomentOfCrowningAwesomeMomentOfCrowning: Invoked by Balon Greyjoy:



** Implied with [[spoiler: Sandor and Sansa]]
** Brienne to Renly

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** Implied with [[spoiler: Sandor and Sansa]]
Sansa, definitely on Sandor's side and implied on Sansa's]];
** Brienne to RenlyRenly [[spoiler: and she takes his death very bad]].



* CainAndAbel: Stannis and his younger brother Renly. The series' GrayAndGreyMorality being what it is, though, it's impossible to tell who is the "good" and the "evil" one. [[spoiler: They both had every intention of killing each other: Renly joking with Loras about what to do with Stannis's body and Stannis actually killing Renly.]]
** Case in point: Renly wants power as king. Stannis seems to see it more as his duty as Robert's heir, though Renly acknowledges that Stannis may well have a better claim but he (Renly) has the larger army and was more the aggressor in the situation. [[spoiler:It turns out to be a Cain and Cain situation however, as Renly is assassinated before his vastly superior army can crush Stannis' own.]] It's never quite clear whether Stannis knew about this. He ''says'' he didn't, and that's [[BrutalHonesty usually enough]], but it's not 100% certain. However, he does show he is upset over Renly's death and did try to make terms with Renly.



* CassandraTruth:
** When traveling northward with Yoran and the Night's Watch recruits, Arya alone doesn't want to spend the night in an abandoned village because she rightly guesses that the villagers fled for a reason. Everyone dismisses her as craven, then Lannister's knights come to raid the village and attack and kill most of their party, including Yoren;
** While recouping with other surviving recruits, Arya insists on scoping out a village alone because she's quieter than the others and less likely to get caught if there are more [[RapePillageAndBurn brutal knights there]]. Gendry "[[MeaningfulName the Bull]]" insists on following her, and sure enough, he gets caught. Hot Pie then insists on accompanying Arya to rescue Gendry, and then ''he's'' promptly caught and gives Arya's position away, leaving them all at the mercy of Gregor's [[SociopathicSoldier men]];
** Catelyn tells Robb that sending Theon to the Iron Islands is a bad idea. Robb does not listen, with disastrous results.



* ChekhovsGun: Renly's armor.

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* ChekhovsGun: ChekhovsGun:
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Renly's armor.armor, [[spoiler: which is used in an ElCidPloy by the Tyrells during the Blackwater Battle]];
** Wildfire jares are founded near the Red Keep. [[spoiler: Tyrion takes the idea of burning down Stannis' fleet from it.]]



* EarlyBirdCameo: The Bastard of Bolton is mentioned for the first time on [[AxCrazy ''very'' unflattering terms]]. [[spoiler: There will be seen wonders from him in ''Literature/ADanceWithDragons'']].



* FaceHeelTurn: [[spoiler: Theon betrays Robb's cause, side with his long-lost father and storms Winterfell.]]
* FakeDefector: Under the Halfhand's orders, Jon pretends to join the Wildlings to survive.



* HowDareYouDieOnMe: Arya is both sad and angry at Yoren's death, who had promised to take her home to Winterfell.



* {{Irony}}: Jon is surprised to note that while the experienced members of the Great Ranging are slowly getting more and more unnerved on the trek, self-professed coward Samwell is actually getting braver.

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* {{Irony}}: IfYoureSoEvilEatThisKitten: When Jon is surprised fakes his defection to note that while the experienced members of Wildlings, they make him execute the Great Ranging are slowly getting ColonelBadass he's serving under. Unfortunately for the Wildlings, the man figured this would happen and warned Jon beforehand, since the information Jon could gather was more and more unnerved on important than the trek, self-professed coward Samwell is actually getting braver.life of one ranger. Jon still feels guilty about killing him, though



* IdiotBall: How pretty much everyone sees Stannis and Renly's petty fight for their claim to the throne. And with good reasons, since it weakens both claims in favour of Joffrey's. Catelyn notice this and express her mind:
-->'''Catelyn''': Listen to yourselves! If you were sons of mine, I would bang your heads together and lock you in a
bedchamber until you remembered that you were brothers.
** And also Cersei makes a consideration:
-->'''Cersei''': Gods be good. I'm starting to believe that ''Robert'' was the clever one.
* {{Irony}}: Jon is surprised to note that while the experienced members of the Great Ranging are slowly getting more and more unnerved on the trek, self-professed coward Samwell is actually getting braver.



* KillItWithFire: [[spoiler: Tyrion burns down Stannis' fleet with wildfire.]]



* LyingToThePerp: Tyrion uses this to work out which of the Council members is spying for Cersei, after narrowing it down to Littlefinger, Varys, and Grand Maester Pycelle (he's fully aware that none of them are trustworthy, but he and Cersei are at daggers drawn by this point). He gets ample dirt on each of them but works out that it's Pycelle he's after.
* NearRapeExperience: During the Battle of the Blackwater, after running away from the flames, Sandor Clegane slipped into Sansa's room and waited for her. He did indeed intend to rape her, but stopped himself and ended up taking nothing more than a song.

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* LoveIsAWeakness: Cersei gives this speech to Sansa.
-->'''Cersei:''' Robert wanted to be loved. My brother Tyrion has the same disease. Do you want to be loved, Sansa?
-->'''Sansa:''' Everyone wants to be loved.
-->'''Cersei:''' I see flowering hasnít made you any brighter. Sansa, permit me to share a bit of womanly wisdom with you on this very special day. Love is poison. A sweet poison, yes, but it will kill you all the same.
* LyingToThePerp: Tyrion uses this to work out which of the Council members is spying for Cersei, after narrowing it down to Littlefinger, Varys, and Grand Maester Pycelle (he's fully aware that none of them are trustworthy, but he and Cersei are at daggers drawn by this point). He gets ample dirt on each of them but works out that it's Pycelle he's after.
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* MightMakesRight: Discussed by Renly about the legitimacy of his claim. He's quick to point out that he's got the biggest army.
--> '''Catelyn''': Let the three of you call for a Great Council... Let the assembled lords of the Seven Kingdoms choose who shall rule them.
--> '''Renly''': ... Tell me, my lady, do direwolves vote on who should lead the pack?... The time for talk is done. Now we see who is stronger.
* NearRapeExperience: During the Battle of the Blackwater, after running away from the flames, Sandor Clegane slipped into Sansa's room and waited for her. He did indeed intend to rape her, but stopped himself and ended up taking nothing more than a song. [[spoiler: Sansa misremembers sharing a kiss with him in the [[Literature/AStormOfSwords next book]].]]


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* NoPeriodsPeriod: Averted with Sansa. She starts menstruating in this book and briefly try to cover it up, since it means she could now be married and deflowered by Joffrey.


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* TheQuest: At the end of the book [[spoiler: Bran and his FiveManBand run to The Wall to find the Three-Eyed Crow.]]


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* TakingYouWithMe: This is Cersei's plan for Sansa if Stannis wins the Blackwater Battle.
* TeethClenchedTeamwork:
** The Night's Watch is not happy at all about having to cooperate with Craster, but does so because his food and shelter is necessary to them to survive in their journey;
** Tyrion and Cersei loathe each other but they have in common the Lannister's cause of keeping Joffrey on the throne.
14th Aug '16 4:54:20 PM leraluna
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* LetMeTellYouAStory: Ygritte tells Jon about Bael the Bard's song. [[spoiler: It would have some importance in Jon Snow's backstory.]]

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* LetMeTellYouAStory: Ygritte tells Jon about Bael the Bard's song. [[spoiler: It would have some importance in is ''very'' reminiscent of the [[EpilepticTrees fan theory]] about Jon Snow's backstory.parents.]]
2nd Aug '16 6:42:16 PM leraluna
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* BadMoonRising: A red comet is on the skies of Westeros from the epilogue of the previous book. It is widely considered an omen, but everyone interprets it differently.

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* BadMoonRising: A red comet is on the skies of Westeros from the epilogue of the previous book. It is widely considered an omen, but everyone interprets it differently. Old Nan gives the right interpretation:
--> '''Old Nan to Bran:''' Dragons ... it be dragons, boy.
9th Jul '16 4:45:32 PM Orbiting
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->''Crowns do queer things to the heads beneath them.''

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->''Crowns ->''"Crowns do queer things to the heads beneath them.''"''
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