History LighterAndSofter / Music

4th Feb '18 12:00:00 PM bt8257
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* The Tubes. The glitter-shock incarnation that did "White Punks on Dope" in the '70s were a far cry from the group that had a hit with "She's a Beauty" in the '80s. Singer Fee Waybill has acknowledged that it was intentional. His reason? "Nothing shocks anybody anymore."

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* The Tubes. The glitter-shock incarnation that did "White Punks on Dope" in the '70s were was a far cry from the group that had a hit with "She's a Beauty" in the '80s. Singer Fee Waybill has acknowledged that it was intentional. His reason? "Nothing shocks anybody anymore."



* The Music/VelvetUnderground have an interesting trajectory in this regard. Their first album -- 1967's ''Music/TheVelvetUndergroundAndNico'' -- was a fairly eclectic mix of soft stuff, hard stuff, and hard stuff that sounds soft (consider "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09bHvtAz4j8 Sunday Morning]]," for instance). The next album, ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'', took a definite turn for the experimental and {{dark|erAndEdgier}} (the title track is about amphetamines, and it gets more macabre -- often [[BlackComedy hilariously]] so -- from there; John Cale stated that it was "consciously anti-beauty"). However, the third album, 1969's ''Music/TheVelvetUnderground'', is a lot mellower (if nevertheless experimental) -- something the band occasionally attributed to having their equipment stolen before recording --, and finally 1970's ''Music/{{Loaded}}'' (so called because [[ExecutiveMeddling the label wanted an album "loaded with hits"]]), which is ''much'' softer musically (but also just as experimental and ''[[EarWorm ridiculously]]'' [[EarWorm listenable]], proving TropesAreNotBad).

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* The Music/VelvetUnderground have an interesting trajectory in this regard. Their first album -- 1967's ''Music/TheVelvetUndergroundAndNico'' -- was a fairly eclectic mix of soft stuff, hard stuff, and hard stuff that sounds soft (consider "[[http://www."[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09bHvtAz4j8 com/watch?v=YdLSuRECKdI Sunday Morning]]," for instance). The next album, ''Music/WhiteLightWhiteHeat'', took a definite turn for the experimental and {{dark|erAndEdgier}} (the title track is about amphetamines, and it gets more macabre -- often [[BlackComedy hilariously]] so -- from there; John Cale stated that it was "consciously anti-beauty"). However, the third album, 1969's ''Music/TheVelvetUnderground'', is a lot mellower (if nevertheless experimental) -- something the band occasionally attributed to having their equipment stolen before recording --, and finally 1970's ''Music/{{Loaded}}'' (so called because [[ExecutiveMeddling the label wanted an album "loaded with hits"]]), which is ''much'' softer musically (but also just as experimental and ''[[EarWorm ridiculously]]'' [[EarWorm listenable]], proving TropesAreNotBad).



* Music/VNVNation's 2010 album ''Of Faith, Power and Glory'' was very [[DarkerAndEdgier depressing and cynical]], but the follow-up, ''Automatic'', is much brighter and more upbeat. The band in general are the trope codifiers of the Futurepop subgenre, the lighter and softer version of EBM.

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* Music/VNVNation's 2010 album ''Of Faith, Power and Glory'' was very [[DarkerAndEdgier depressing and cynical]], but the follow-up, ''Automatic'', is much brighter and more upbeat. The band in general are the trope codifiers of the Futurepop subgenre, sub-genre, the lighter and softer version of EBM.



* A lot of Hip-Hop fans say this is what happened to mainstream rap music. The days of the weed smoking gangstas, and proud to be black Afrocentric political rappers with their gritty [[JustifiedCriminal Justified crime tales]], and socio-political street knowledge were long gone, only to be replaced (circa early '00s) by champagne sipping pimps, and playas, who love to rap about wealth, cheesy love songs, and club anthems.

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* A lot of Hip-Hop fans say this is what happened to mainstream rap music. The days of the weed smoking gangstas, and proud to be black Afrocentric political rappers with their gritty [[JustifiedCriminal Justified crime tales]], and socio-political sociopolitical street knowledge were long gone, only to be replaced (circa early '00s) by champagne sipping pimps, and playas, who love to rap about wealth, cheesy love songs, and club anthems.



* Music/DefLeppard was once considered one of the major bands of the new wave of British heavy metal alongside Music/IronMaiden and Music/{{Motorhead}}. These days, most people only know the band for their radio-friendly HairMetal hits that started with their third album, ''Pyromania''. The band-members openly admit that they adopted a softer, more mainstream sound in an effort to become more popular and successful. It worked, big time.

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* Music/DefLeppard was once considered one of the major bands of the new wave New Wave of British heavy metal Heavy Metal, alongside Music/IronMaiden and Music/{{Motorhead}}. These days, most people only know the band for their radio-friendly HairMetal hits that started with their third album, ''Pyromania''. The band-members openly admit that they adopted a softer, more mainstream sound in an effort to become more popular and successful. It worked, big time.''big time''.
4th Feb '18 11:55:15 AM bt8257
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* In the beginning, Music/{{Sevendust}} gradually got lighter with each release. Their SelfTitledAlbum was very aggressive, raw metal with some songs bordering on [[ThrashMetal Crossover Thrash]], a far cry from the more accessible sound of their later albums. ''Home'' and ''Animosity'' featured more clean vocals and less screaming, but were still relatively heavy. ''Seasons'' and ''Next'', however, really toned things down, with half the songs being borderline radio rock that wouldn't sound out of place on a Music/LinkinPark album. Which makes it rather jarring to hear the album that came after ''Next'', ''Alpha'', which is their angriest, loudest, and heaviest album to date.

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* In the beginning, Music/{{Sevendust}} gradually got lighter with each release. Their SelfTitledAlbum was very aggressive, raw metal with some songs bordering on [[ThrashMetal Crossover Thrash]], a far cry from the more accessible sound of their later albums. ''Home'' and ''Animosity'' featured more clean vocals and less screaming, but were are still relatively heavy. ''Seasons'' and ''Next'', however, really toned things down, with half the songs being borderline radio rock that wouldn't sound out of place on a Music/LinkinPark album. Which makes it rather jarring to hear the album that came after ''Next'', ''Alpha'', which is their angriest, loudest, and heaviest album to date.
2nd Feb '18 1:40:07 AM bt8257
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* Music/BreakingBenjamin did this [[PlayingWithATrope somewhat]]. Their first two albums, ''Saturate'' and ''We Are Not Alone'', were both had heavier AlternativeMetal influences, drawing inspiration from Music/AliceInChains and Music/{{Tool}}. Their next two albums, ''Phobia'' and ''Dear Agony'', had more of an {{alternative rock}}[=/=]{{grunge}} sound and were a little bit softer musically. Lyrically though, they were about the same, with the later two albums possibly even being a slight bit darker than their first two.

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* Music/BreakingBenjamin did this [[PlayingWithATrope somewhat]]. Their first two albums, ''Saturate'' and ''We Are Not Alone'', were both had heavier AlternativeMetal influences, drawing inspiration from Music/AliceInChains and Music/{{Tool}}. Their next two albums, ''Phobia'' and ''Dear Agony'', had more of an {{alternative rock}}[=/=]{{grunge}} sound and were a little bit softer musically. Lyrically though, they were about the same, with the later two albums possibly even being beng a slight bit darker than their first two.
2nd Feb '18 1:37:02 AM bt8257
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** This is also common when leveled at ''SPECIFIC'' artists within the genre. Primarily HardcoreHipHop rappers and the Blue Collar and Hardcore variants of GangstaRap. A good example would be Music/FiftyCent whom ironically built his image around being the anti-Ja Rule (whom also turned lighter), which to some made Fiddy hypocritical. Then there's others like Music/SnoopDogg, Music/ThreeSixMafia, Music/JayZ, Music/{{Nas}} (circa ''Nastradamus''), the later years of No Limit records, Music/BoneThugsNHarmony (fans thinking they're still trying to chase [[BlackSheepHit "Tha Crossroads"]], or at least the record label is), Music/WuTangClan circa ''Wu-Tang Forever'' (RZA saying it was a record [[ButNotTooBlack for white people]]).

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** This is also common when leveled at ''SPECIFIC'' specific artists within the genre. Primarily HardcoreHipHop rappers and the Blue Collar and Hardcore variants of GangstaRap. A good example would be Music/FiftyCent whom ironically built his image around being the anti-Ja Rule (whom also turned lighter), which to some made Fiddy hypocritical. Then there's others like Music/SnoopDogg, Music/ThreeSixMafia, Music/JayZ, Music/{{Nas}} (circa ''Nastradamus''), the later years of No Limit records, Music/BoneThugsNHarmony (fans thinking they're still trying to chase [[BlackSheepHit "Tha Crossroads"]], or at least the record label is), Music/WuTangClan circa ''Wu-Tang Forever'' (RZA saying it was a record [[ButNotTooBlack for white people]]).
31st Jan '18 7:38:14 PM bt8257
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* "Chillstep" is the lighter and softer cousin of {{Dubstep}} which features less distorted bass, a more spacey sound, little to no wobble riffs, less emphasis to near-absence of drops and a generally "angelic" or "uplifting" feel.

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* "Chillstep" Chillstep is the lighter and softer cousin of {{Dubstep}} which features less distorted bass, a more spacey sound, little to no wobble riffs, less emphasis to near-absence of drops and a generally "angelic" or "uplifting" feel.
31st Jan '18 7:34:34 PM bt8257
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* This happened to many pop-metal bands in the '70s and '80s as they gained commercial success. An example is Music/REOSpeedwagon. Their first album included tracks called "Five Men Were Killed Today" (strangely enough, a ballad) and "Dead At Last" (about suicide, the end of a relationship, or both). Years later, they would have big hits with the power ballads "Keep On Lovin' You" and "Can't Fight This Feelin'."

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* This happened to many pop-metal bands in the '70s and '80s as they gained commercial success. An example is Music/REOSpeedwagon. Their first album included tracks called "Five Men Were Killed Today" (strangely enough, a ballad) and "Dead At at Last" (about suicide, the end of a relationship, or both). Years later, they would have big hits with the power ballads "Keep On Lovin' You" and "Can't Fight This Feelin'."
31st Jan '18 7:34:05 PM bt8257
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* ''Music/KidzBop'' is a series of cover albums, the concept of which is turning hit songs into children's music, not neglecting songs about death, sex, or drugs. HilarityEnsues. Rockabye Baby takes it way further - it turns classic rock songs into ''baby lullabies''. While Kidz Bop mainly cover Top 40 hits full of LyricalDissonance, Rockabye Baby covers [[SarcasmMode kid friendly bands]] such as Music/NineInchNails, Music/PinkFloyd, Music/{{Radiohead}}, and Music/{{Tool}}. And it is ''[[SweetDreamsFuel amazing]]''.

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* ''Music/KidzBop'' is a series of cover albums, the concept of which is turning hit songs into children's music, not neglecting songs about death, sex, or drugs. HilarityEnsues. Rockabye Baby takes it way further - it turns classic rock songs into ''baby lullabies''. While Kidz Bop mainly cover Top 40 hits full of LyricalDissonance, Rockabye Baby covers [[SarcasmMode kid friendly kid-friendly bands]] such as Music/NineInchNails, Music/PinkFloyd, Music/{{Radiohead}}, and Music/{{Tool}}. And it is ''[[SweetDreamsFuel amazing]]''.
30th Jan '18 3:05:59 PM bt8257
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* The Tubes. The glitter-shock incarnation that did "White Punks on Dope" in the '70s were a far cry from the group that had a hit with "She's a Beauty" in the '80s. Singer Fee Waybill has acknowledged that this was done intentionally. His reason? "Nothing shocks anybody anymore."

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* The Tubes. The glitter-shock incarnation that did "White Punks on Dope" in the '70s were a far cry from the group that had a hit with "She's a Beauty" in the '80s. Singer Fee Waybill has acknowledged that this it was done intentionally.intentional. His reason? "Nothing shocks anybody anymore."



* The first two albums by Music/MotleyCrue, ''Too Fast for Love'' and ''Shout at the Devil'', were dark and gritty HeavyMetal albums with lyrics that dealt with things like drug abuse and Satanism. Starting with their third album, ''Theatre of Pain'', they moved in a more MTV-friendly hard rock direction with rock anthems like "Smokin' in the Boys' Room" and ballads like "Home Sweet Home".
* In an intentional case of this trope, Music/{{Prince}}'s "Lovesexy" was released as a light and fluffy response to the zany, mean-spirited "Black Album," complete with a pink album cover with a flower on it.

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* The first two albums by Music/MotleyCrue, ''Too Fast for Love'' and ''Shout at the Devil'', were dark and gritty HeavyMetal albums with lyrics that dealt with things like drug abuse and Satanism. Starting with their third album, ''Theatre of Pain'', they moved in a more MTV-friendly hard rock {{hard rock}} direction with rock anthems like "Smokin' in the Boys' Room" and ballads like "Home Sweet Home".
* In an intentional case of this trope, Music/{{Prince}}'s "Lovesexy" ''Lovesexy'' was released as a light and light, fluffy response to the zany, mean-spirited "Black Album," ''Black Album'', complete with a pink album cover with a flower on it.



** Specific rapper example: The early works made by South Korean rapper Music/{{PSY}} [[OlderThanTheyThink during his debut years]] were dark and gritty, with his ''Urbanite'' took that UpToEleven by turning Workaholic [[CrapsaccharineWorld Crapsaccharine social phenomenon]] into SarcasmMode. Then come to TheNewTens, his recent songs like ''Music/GangnamStyle'' and ''Napal Baji'' becoming brighter and sillier, with a few serious moments.

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** Specific rapper example: The early works made by South Korean rapper Music/{{PSY}} [[OlderThanTheyThink during his debut years]] were dark and gritty, with his ''Urbanite'' took that UpToEleven by turning Workaholic [[CrapsaccharineWorld Crapsaccharine {{Crapsaccharine|World}} social phenomenon]] phenomenon into SarcasmMode. Then come to TheNewTens, his recent songs like ''Music/GangnamStyle'' and ''Napal Baji'' becoming brighter and sillier, with a few serious moments.



* Synthpop duo Future Perfect's first album, ''Dirty Little Secrets'', is dark, {{angst}}y, and depressing at times. Their second, ''Escape'', looks to be headed in the upbeat and energetic direction, by the previews. Conversely, the songs revealed from the forthcoming ''Before The Fall'' are DarkerAndEdgier than both of their previous albums.

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* Synthpop SynthPop duo Future Perfect's first album, ''Dirty Little Secrets'', is dark, {{angst}}y, and depressing at times. Their second, ''Escape'', looks to be headed in the upbeat and energetic direction, by the previews. Conversely, the songs revealed from the forthcoming ''Before The the Fall'' are DarkerAndEdgier than both of their previous albums.
22nd Jan '18 1:54:29 PM bt8257
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* The departure of Roger Waters from Music/PinkFloyd was followed by a classic Lightening and Softening. From mental breakdowns rendered into music and harsh lyrics condemning modern life, Pink Floyd moved to David Gilmour's gentle dreamy soundscapes. Lyrically, the later albums tend to unfocused expressions of good will and an earnest appreciation for life. The remaining angst now seemed more of pose: a mere colour on the palette, not a raw daub of blood. Interestingly, the Waters-lead era (beginning with ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'') was itself a {{darker and edgier}} Pink Floyd. Before this point, Floyd albums were known for being spacey and psychedelic rather than particularly dark. Indeed, their original Syd Barrett era was downright whimsical at times.

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* The departure of Roger Waters from Music/PinkFloyd was followed by a classic Lightening and Softening. From mental breakdowns rendered into music and harsh lyrics condemning modern life, Pink Floyd moved to David Gilmour's gentle dreamy soundscapes. Lyrically, the later albums tend to unfocused expressions of good will and an earnest appreciation for life. The remaining angst now seemed more of pose: a mere colour on the palette, not a raw daub of blood. Interestingly, the Waters-lead era (beginning (starting with ''Music/TheDarkSideOfTheMoon'') was itself a {{darker and edgier}} Pink Floyd. Before this point, Floyd albums were known for being spacey and psychedelic rather than particularly dark. Indeed, their original Syd Barrett era was downright whimsical at times.
22nd Jan '18 1:54:05 PM bt8257
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* Music/KidzBop is a series of cover albums, the concept of which is turning hit songs into children's music, not neglecting songs about death, sex, or drugs. HilarityEnsues. Rockabye Baby takes it way further - it turns classic rock songs into ''baby lullabies''. While Kidz Bop mainly cover Top 40 hits full of LyricalDissonance, Rockabye Baby covers [[SarcasmMode kid friendly bands]] such as Music/NineInchNails, Music/PinkFloyd, Music/{{Radiohead}}, and Music/{{Tool}}. And it is ''[[SweetDreamsFuel amazing]]''.

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* Music/KidzBop ''Music/KidzBop'' is a series of cover albums, the concept of which is turning hit songs into children's music, not neglecting songs about death, sex, or drugs. HilarityEnsues. Rockabye Baby takes it way further - it turns classic rock songs into ''baby lullabies''. While Kidz Bop mainly cover Top 40 hits full of LyricalDissonance, Rockabye Baby covers [[SarcasmMode kid friendly bands]] such as Music/NineInchNails, Music/PinkFloyd, Music/{{Radiohead}}, and Music/{{Tool}}. And it is ''[[SweetDreamsFuel amazing]]''.



* Music/{{Gorillaz}} followed up their darkest and most depressive work on ''Demon Days'' with a flashy {{Synthpop}} album, ''Music/PlasticBeach''.

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* Music/{{Gorillaz}} followed up their darkest and most depressive work on ''Demon Days'' with a flashy {{Synthpop}} SynthPop album, ''Music/PlasticBeach''.



** Specific rapper example: The early works made by South Korean rapper Music/{{PSY}} [[OlderthanTheyThink during his debut years]] were dark and gritty, with his ''Urbanite'' took that UpToEleven by turning Workaholic [[CrapsaccharineWorld Crapsaccharine social phenomenon]] into SarcasmMode. Then come to TheNewTens, his recent songs like ''Music/GangnamStyle'' and ''Napal Baji'' becoming brighter and sillier, with a few serious moments.

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** Specific rapper example: The early works made by South Korean rapper Music/{{PSY}} [[OlderthanTheyThink [[OlderThanTheyThink during his debut years]] were dark and gritty, with his ''Urbanite'' took that UpToEleven by turning Workaholic [[CrapsaccharineWorld Crapsaccharine social phenomenon]] into SarcasmMode. Then come to TheNewTens, his recent songs like ''Music/GangnamStyle'' and ''Napal Baji'' becoming brighter and sillier, with a few serious moments.



** Music/{{Testament}} subverted this trope after their "lighter and softer" ''The Ritual'' flopped. ''Demonic'', in particular, borders on being a full-blown death metal album.

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** Music/{{Testament}} subverted this trope after their "lighter and softer" ''The Ritual'' flopped. ''Demonic'', in particular, borders on being a full-blown death metal {{death metal}} album.



* Music/FaithNoMore really had no direction to go ''but'' LighterAndSofter after the nightmarish ''Angel Dust''. ''King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime'' had its share of disturbing and brutal metal tracks ("Cuckoo for Caca", "Ugly in the Morning"), but the contrasting songs were noticaebly way more laidback, usually alternating between AlternativeRock, lighter takes on {{Grunge}} and {{Novelty Song}}s in the styles of {{Jazz}} and {{Pop}}. ''Album of the Year'' mostly followed suit, with the occasional ''Angel Dust''-esque metal number ("Collision", "Last Cup of Sorrow", "Paths of Glory") surrounded by more upbeat {{Punk|Rock}} and Alt Rock tracks as well as experiments with ambient {{electronic|music}} sounds. Though both of these albums came after the departure of original guitarist Jim Martin, they are still noticeably DarkerAndEdgier than ''Introduce Yourself'' and ''The Real Thing''.

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* Music/FaithNoMore really had no direction to go ''but'' LighterAndSofter after the nightmarish ''Angel Dust''. ''King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime'' had its share of disturbing and brutal metal tracks ("Cuckoo for Caca", "Ugly in the Morning"), but the contrasting songs were noticaebly noticeably way more laidback, laid-back, usually alternating between AlternativeRock, lighter takes on {{Grunge}} and {{Novelty Song}}s in the styles of {{Jazz}} and {{Pop}}. ''Album of the Year'' mostly followed suit, with the occasional ''Angel Dust''-esque metal number ("Collision", "Last Cup of Sorrow", "Paths of Glory") surrounded by more upbeat {{Punk|Rock}} and Alt Rock tracks as well as experiments with ambient {{electronic|music}} sounds. Though both of these albums came after the departure of original guitarist Jim Martin, they are still noticeably DarkerAndEdgier than ''Introduce Yourself'' and ''The Real Thing''.



* Music/{{Chicago}} built a grand reputation for themselves in TheSeventies as a SpiritualSuccessor to BloodSweatAndTears, mixing ProgressiveRock with {{Jazz}} instrumentation and {{Funk}} rhythms, then turned into an AdultContemporary soft rock act during TheEighties after the success of [[BlackSheepHit "If You Leave Me Now"]] near the end of the prior decade. One need only hear their two most well-known songs, "25 or 6 to 4" and "You're the Inspiration", to understand the contrast.

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* Music/{{Chicago}} built a grand reputation for themselves in TheSeventies as a SpiritualSuccessor to BloodSweatAndTears, Music/BloodSweatAndTears, mixing ProgressiveRock with {{Jazz}} instrumentation and {{Funk}} rhythms, then turned into an AdultContemporary soft rock act during TheEighties after the success of [[BlackSheepHit "If You Leave Me Now"]] near the end of the prior decade. One need only hear their two most well-known songs, "25 or 6 to 4" and "You're the Inspiration", to understand the contrast.
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