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8th Jun '18 2:19:11 AM Synchronicity
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* AlternateTimeline: In this story, after the Holy Grail was stolen from Fuyuki following the third Holy Grail War by the Yggdmillennia, it was no longer held there and was instead held in Transylvania. So, the events of ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' never occurred as they should have. However, InSpiteOfANail, Waver is Lord El-Melloi II.

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* AlternateTimeline: To ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight''.
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In this story, after the Holy Grail was stolen from Fuyuki following the third Holy Grail War by the Yggdmillennia, it was no longer held there and was instead held in Transylvania. So, the events of ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' never occurred as they should have. However, InSpiteOfANail, Waver is Lord El-Melloi II.



** However, InSpiteOfANail, Waver is Lord El-Melloi II.



* AnyoneCanDie: There is little doubt that a lot of Servants will die, now that there are 15 of them in total. (And probably some of the Masters will kick the bucket too).
** [[spoiler: As of the third volume: Black Saber, Black Lancer, Black Berserker, Black Caster and Red Berserker have all fallen, and on the Masters' side of things, Roche, Darnic and Celenike. There is a slight chance for Black Berserker to respawn through Blasted Tree's secondary effect. In addition, although Siegfried had been KilledOffForReal, the Homunculus can take on his form for three minutes each time a Command Seal is used.]]

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* AnyoneCanDie: There is little doubt that a lot of Servants will die, now that there are 15 of them in total. (And probably some of the Masters will kick the bucket too).
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too). Of the major characters, [[spoiler: As of only Astolfo, Fiore, Caules, Gordes, and Sieg (as a dragon!)]] remain alive by the third volume: Black Saber, Black Lancer, Black Berserker, Black Caster and Red Berserker have all fallen, and on the Masters' side of things, Roche, Darnic and Celenike. There is a slight chance for Black Berserker to respawn through Blasted Tree's secondary effect. In addition, although Siegfried had been KilledOffForReal, the Homunculus can take on his form for three minutes each time a Command Seal is used.]]end.



* BadassCape: Siegfried, Shirou Kotomine, Astolfo and Karna. Darnic may also count.

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* BadassCape: Siegfried, Shirou Kotomine, Astolfo and Karna. Karna are all competent fighters who sport prominent capes. Darnic may also count.wears one as the head of the Yggdmillenia.



* BaitAndSwitchCredits: In the second opening, Astolfo is shown fighting Achilles. In the actual story, both of them only meet once but never fought each other. This is likely done for the awesome effect of having each remaining class Servant fight with it's counterpart, but story-wise it cannot be done due to the fact that [[CurbStompBattle it would take Achilles less than a second to defeat Astolfo]]

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* BaitAndSwitchCredits: In the second opening, Astolfo is shown fighting Achilles. In the actual story, both of them only meet once but never fought each other. This is likely done for the awesome effect of having each remaining class Servant fight with it's counterpart, but story-wise it cannot be done due to the fact that [[CurbStompBattle it would take Achilles less than a second to defeat Astolfo]]Astolfo]].



* TheCameo: Waver Velvet of ''LightNovel/FateZero'' makes a brief appearance as Lord El-Melloi II.

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* TheCameo: TheCameo:
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Waver Velvet of ''LightNovel/FateZero'' makes a brief appearance appearances [[BookEnds at the beginning and the end]] as Lord El-Melloi II.



** [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Medea]] (specifically, her "Lily" version from ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'') and Artemis appear in episode 18 as part of Atalanta's flashback to her past. [[LightNovel/FateZero Gilles de Rais]] in his "Saber" form also appears in episode 18 as part of a brief flashback to Jeanne's past [[spoiler:and in episode 23 as part of Shakespeare's MindRape on Jeanne]].

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** [[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Medea]] (specifically, her "Lily" version from ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder'') and Artemis appear in episode 18 as part of Atalanta's flashback to her past.
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[[LightNovel/FateZero Gilles de Rais]] in his "Saber" form also appears in episode 18 as part of a brief flashback to Jeanne's past [[spoiler:and in episode 23 as part of Shakespeare's MindRape on Jeanne]].



** [[spoiler:Merlin]] appears to Mordred in front of a vision of Arturia drawing Caliburn [[spoiler:as Mordred is dying.]]



* CompressedAdaptation: A lot of content from the light novels, especially regarding the Red Faction, was AdaptedOut to fit the anime's 25 episodes. Two examples are flashbacks explaining the relationship between Achilles and Atalanta. The first explains that Achilles idolized Atalanta through stories of his father Peleus. The second shows [[spoiler:Achilles' battle with Penthesilea, which ended with her rage over Achilles calling her beautiful resulting in a DyingCurse, where Achilles would one day kill someone dear to him using the same spear he used against Penthesilea--a prophecy that comes true when Achilles has to kill Atalanta]]. There was also a cut scene that would've resulted a cameo of Arjuna (and Duryodhana, who hasn't made an appearance in any other Fate works), when Karna took a bath after looking at the drugged original Masters and compared his promised battle with Siegfried to his rivalry with his brother.

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* CompressedAdaptation: A lot of content from the light novels, especially regarding the Red Faction, was AdaptedOut to fit the anime's 25 episodes.
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Two examples are flashbacks explaining the relationship between Achilles and Atalanta. The first explains that Achilles idolized Atalanta through stories of his father Peleus. The second shows [[spoiler:Achilles' battle with Penthesilea, which ended with her rage over Achilles calling her beautiful resulting in a DyingCurse, where Achilles would one day kill someone dear to him using the same spear he used against Penthesilea--a prophecy that comes true when Achilles has to kill Atalanta]]. There was also a cut scene that would've resulted a cameo of Arjuna (and Duryodhana, who hasn't made an appearance in any other Fate works), when Karna took a bath after looking at the drugged original Masters and compared his promised battle with Siegfried to his rivalry with his brother.



* CrazyPrepared: The Yggdmillenia, although Darnic Prestone in particular really counts. Rather [[JustifiedTrope justified]], considering that he's been preparing ever since the Third Holy Grail War. That's 70 years worth of preparation, folks.
** [[spoiler: Despite all that planning, "Shirou Kotomine" manages to outsmart and murder Darnic by the end of the second volume. It helps that Shirou had been around for almost as long as Darnic, and was probably even more prepared than him.]]

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* CrazyPrepared: CrazyPrepared:
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The Yggdmillenia, although Darnic Prestone in particular really counts. Rather [[JustifiedTrope justified]], considering that he's been preparing ever since the Third Holy Grail War. That's 70 years worth of preparation, folks.
** Shirou Kotomine as well. He manages to [[spoiler: Despite all that planning, "Shirou Kotomine" manages to outsmart and murder Darnic by the end of the second volume. It helps that Shirou had been around for almost as long as Darnic, and was probably even more prepared than him.]]



** [[spoiler:By the end of the second volume and beginning of the third, the Red Faction is in an overwhelmingly favorable position: The Black Faction had lost their two strongest Servants (Siegfried and Vlad III) as well as their Berserker (Frankenstein), while their Caster (Avicebron) betrays them to the Red Faction. They only have three Servants left, although Black Assassin (Jack the Ripper) had essentially defected after being attacked by Fiore Yggdmillenia. In contrast, the Red Faction has lost their Berserker (Spartacus) in battle and their Saber (Mordred) betrayed them, but all of their other Servants are in perfect condition and they even have a bonus Ruler Servant (In the form of Amakusa Shirou) on their side. This means the Red Faction sits at seven Servants total while the Black only has effectively ''two'' to count on. Luckily, the Black Faction gets reinforcements with Mordred, Ruler (Jeanne) and Sieg (who can use Siegfried's power for a limited time) joining them to stop Amakusa Shirou]].

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** [[spoiler:By the end of the second volume and beginning of the third, the Red Faction is The Hanging Gardens siege ends in an overwhelmingly favorable position: The Black Faction had lost their two strongest Servants (Siegfried and Vlad III) as well as their Berserker (Frankenstein), while their Caster (Avicebron) betrays them to position for the Red Faction. They only have [[spoiler:The Black Faction loses three Servants left, although Black servants, including their two strongest, their Caster betrays them, and their Assassin (Jack the Ripper) had essentially defected after being attacked by Fiore Yggdmillenia. goes rogue. In contrast, although the Red Faction has lost loses their Berserker (Spartacus) in battle and their Saber (Mordred) betrayed them, but switches sides, all of their other Servants servants (including two ridiculously overpowered ones) are in perfect condition still kicking, and they even have Shirou Kotomine is a bonus Ruler Servant (In the form of Amakusa Shirou) on their side. This means the Red Faction sits at seven Servants total while the Black only has effectively ''two'' to count on. Ruler-class himself]]. Luckily, the Black Faction gets reinforcements with Mordred, [[spoiler:Mordred, Ruler (Jeanne) and Sieg (who can use Siegfried's power for a limited time) joining them to stop Amakusa Shirou]].



* {{Foreshadowing}}: In the prologue scene, Siegfried and Mordred are battling each other, with Mordred taunting Siegfried for being a "[[spoiler:fake]]". This is because later on, it is revealed that [[spoiler:the Siegfried she is fighting is not the real one, but a homunculus that has copied his appearance and abilities to a limited extent.]]

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: {{Foreshadowing}}:
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In the prologue scene, Siegfried and Mordred are battling each other, with Mordred taunting Siegfried for being a "[[spoiler:fake]]". This is because later on, it is revealed that [[spoiler:the Siegfried she is fighting is not the real one, but a homunculus that has copied his appearance and abilities to a limited extent.]]



* PoorCommunicationKills: Gordes ordered Siegfried to never speak, to conceal his identity, and Siegfried nodded in agreement. Gordes saw the nod as "your will be done, master" while Siegfried meant it more as "sure, why not?". The narration notes that this misunderstanding is going to become a big factor in the future.
** It does, Gordes arrogantly assumes that Siegfried is merely a tool at his disposal, and this arrogance causes him to [[spoiler: not only waste ''two'' command spells and nearly expose Siegfried's Noble Phantasm so early in the war, but it causes Siegfried to act on his own to save the Homunculus's life at the cost of his own.]]

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* PoorCommunicationKills: Gordes ordered Siegfried to never speak, to conceal his identity, and Siegfried nodded in agreement. Gordes saw the nod as "your will be done, master" while Siegfried meant it more as "sure, why not?". The narration notes that this misunderstanding is going to become a big factor in the future.
** It does,
Gordes arrogantly assumes that Siegfried is merely a tool at his disposal, and this arrogance causes him to [[spoiler: not only waste ''two'' command spells and nearly expose Siegfried's Noble Phantasm so early in the war, but it causes Siegfried to act on his own to save the Homunculus's life at the cost of his own.]]



* PurpleIsPowerful: [[spoiler:When Sieg's and Mordred's {{Sword Beam}}s collide, they produce a massive purple energy wave that's as strong as both of their Anti-Army Noble Phantasms combined. The first time they do it is during their battle against each other where they create a purple SphereOfDestruction, and the second time they use it as their FinishingMove against Caster of Black's ultimate golem Adam as a SwordBeam that tears it apart]].

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* PurpleIsPowerful: [[spoiler:When Sieg's When Siegfried's and Mordred's {{Sword Beam}}s collide, they produce a massive purple energy wave that's as strong as both of their Anti-Army Noble Phantasms combined. The first time they do it is during their battle against each other where they create a purple SphereOfDestruction, and the [[spoiler:the second time they use it as their FinishingMove against Caster of Black's ultimate golem Adam as a SwordBeam that tears it apart]].



* ShoutOut: In the anime's Episode 11 preview, Astolfo calls Mordred a "female [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason]]".

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* ShoutOut: ShoutOut:
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In the anime's Episode 11 preview, Astolfo calls Mordred a "female [[Franchise/FridayThe13th Jason]]".



** [[spoiler: Vlad III's vampire form also demonstrates this trope, where it is shown that he is able to take on '''six Servants at the same time'''--including the aforementioned Karna. This is despite the fact that Vlad III had just lost his double-layered HomeFieldAdvantage and that the six Servants were empowered by Jeanne herself. One can only imagine how powerful Vlad III's vampire form might have been had he retained both layers of his HomeFieldAdvantage.]]

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** [[spoiler: Vlad III's [[spoiler: vampire form also demonstrates this trope, where it is shown that he is able to take on '''six Servants at the same time'''--including the aforementioned Karna. This is despite the fact that Vlad III had just lost his double-layered HomeFieldAdvantage and that the six Servants were empowered by Jeanne herself. One can only imagine how powerful Vlad III's vampire form might have been had he retained both layers of his HomeFieldAdvantage.]]
14th May '18 9:50:18 AM urutapu
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** In the Light Novel, the reason Semiramis and Shirou Kotomine couldn't tell that Saber of Red was Mordred at first was because of her Noble Phantasm, Secret of Pedigree: Helm of Hidden Infidelity, which hides her stats and her face from being detected by magic or other abilities. The anime makes almost no mention of said ability, treating it as though Mordred's helmet and silence were enough to avoid the topic, making it a bit jarring later when her appearance is revealed and nobody seems to react.

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** In the Light Novel, the reason Semiramis and Shirou Kotomine couldn't tell that Saber of Red was Mordred at first was because of her Noble Phantasm, Phantasm Secret of Pedigree: Helm of Hidden Infidelity, Pedigree, which hides her stats and her face from being detected by magic or sight and other abilities.means of detection. The anime makes almost no mention of said ability, treating it as though Mordred's helmet and silence were enough to avoid the topic, making it a bit jarring later when her appearance is revealed and nobody seems to react.
13th May '18 9:30:57 AM ExeloMinish
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** Arturia, [[Videogame/FateGrandOrder Merlin, Lancelot, Tristan, Gawain, Bedivere and even Agravain]] all appear briefly during Mordred's flashback in episode 6 of the anime adaptation. For a non-character cameo, Arturia's lance Rhongomyniad appears for the first time with its ''FGO'' appearance, whereas in previous showings of the scene it was a simple lance. Morgan le Fay (Mordred's mother and Arturia's sister) also makes her first animated appearance in the same episode. Merlin and Arturia make another appearance in episode 23 [[spoiler:in Mordred's thoughts as she struggles to survive against Semiramis's poison]].

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** Arturia, [[Videogame/FateGrandOrder Merlin, Lancelot, Tristan, Gawain, Bedivere and even Agravain]] all appear briefly during Mordred's flashback in episode 6 of the anime adaptation. [[note]]Those cameos also bring in a bit of an AdaptationInducedPlotHole, as Bedivere appears with his Airgetlám metal arm, something he most definitely did ''not'' have back in the Round Table days.[[/note]] For a non-character cameo, Arturia's lance Rhongomyniad appears for the first time with its ''FGO'' appearance, whereas in previous showings of the scene it was a simple lance. Morgan le Fay (Mordred's mother and Arturia's sister) also makes her first animated appearance in the same episode. Merlin and Arturia make another appearance in episode 23 [[spoiler:in Mordred's thoughts as she struggles to survive against Semiramis's poison]].
2nd May '18 5:03:25 AM n3xus
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''Fate/Apocrypha'' is a LightNovel written by Yuichiro Higashide and illustrated by Konoe Ototsugu set in the ''[[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate/stay night]]'' universe. It was originally conceived as a joint-project MMORPG by Type-Moon, with the help of several other authors and artists like Creator/GenUrobuchi, but was eventually cancelled when a suitable development partner could not be found[[note]]at least until it eventually evolved into the mobile game ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder''[[/note]]. The concept was later revived as a five-part LightNovel, with two previews published in the ''Type-Moon Ace'' magazine. The full first novel was released at Comiket on 29 December 2012. The second novel was released on the 15th of August, 2013, the third on December 29, 2013, the fourth on May 30, 2014, and the fifth and final volume was released on December 30, 2014.

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''Fate/Apocrypha'' is a LightNovel written by Yuichiro Higashide and illustrated by Konoe Ototsugu Konoe set in the ''[[VisualNovel/FateStayNight Fate/stay night]]'' universe. It was originally conceived as a joint-project MMORPG by Type-Moon, with the help of several other authors and artists like Creator/GenUrobuchi, but was eventually cancelled when a suitable development partner could not be found[[note]]at least until it eventually evolved into the mobile game ''VideoGame/FateGrandOrder''[[/note]]. The concept was later revived as a five-part LightNovel, with two previews published in the ''Type-Moon Ace'' magazine. The full first novel was released at Comiket on 29 December 2012. The second novel was released on the 15th of August, 2013, the third on December 29, 2013, the fourth on May 30, 2014, and the fifth and final volume was released on December 30, 2014.
26th Apr '18 1:18:30 PM keyblade333
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** In the Light Novel, the reason Semiramis and Shirou Kotomine couldn't tell that Saber of Red was Mordred at first was because of her Noble Phantasm, Secret of Pedigree: Helm of Hidden Infidelity, which hides her stats and her face from being detected by magic or other abilities. The anime makes almost no mention of said ability, treating it as though Mordred's helmet and silence were enough to avoid the topic, making it a bit jarring later when her appearance is revealed and nobody seems to react.



* AllThereInTheManual: A lot of the information about the Servants originally came from the ''Fate/Complete Material IV'' guidebook rather than the actual novel. ''Fate/Apocrypha Material'' further expands on them and also explains what happened to the surviving Masters after the last book.

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* AllThereInTheManual: A lot of the information about the Servants originally came from the ''Fate/Complete Material IV'' guidebook rather than the actual novel. ''Fate/Apocrypha Material'' further expands on them and also explains what happened to the surviving Masters after the last book. The anime adaptation also has this issue due to the information about several abilities being not conveyed to the viewer.
2nd Mar '18 10:17:13 PM WolfThunder
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** In the novels Siegfried was ordered to remain silent by Gordes to protect his identity. In the anime no such order us given.

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** In the novels Siegfried was ordered to remain silent by Gordes to protect his identity. In the anime no such order us is given.
10th Feb '18 12:37:30 PM kbissett
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An anime adaptation by Creator/A1Pictures was announced December 31, 2016. It premiered on July 1, 2017, has been licenced for exclusive streaming on Creator/{{Netflix}}, and ran for 25 episodes. The first half of the series premiered [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-07-03/fate-apocrypha-anime-to-premiere-on-netflix-on-november-7/.118399 on Netflix worldwide on November 7, 2017.]]

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An anime adaptation by Creator/A1Pictures was announced December 31, 2016. It premiered on July 1, 2017, has been licenced for exclusive streaming on Creator/{{Netflix}}, and ran for 25 episodes. The first half of the series premiered [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-07-03/fate-apocrypha-anime-to-premiere-on-netflix-on-november-7/.118399 on Netflix worldwide on November 7, 2017.]]
2017]], and the second half premiered in February 2018.
1st Feb '18 6:25:23 PM Pastykake
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* AllMythsAreTrue: Mostly played straight, although there are a few deviations. For example, Vlad III was most certainly not an actual vampire during his lifetime, though the prevalent association with them has given him access to a Noble Phantasm that lets him ''become'' one... though [[BerserkButton he '''really''' loathes it]].
* AllThereInTheManual: A lot of the information about the Servants originally came from the Fate/Complete Material IV guidebook rather than the actual novel. Fate/Apocrypha Material further expands on them and also explains what happened to the surviving Masters after the last book.
* AlternateTimeline: In this story, after the Holy Grail was stolen from Fuyuki following the third Holy Grail War by the Yggdmillennia and it no longer was held there, but in Transylvania. So the events of ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' never occurred as they should have. However, InSpiteOfANail, Waver is Lord El-Melloi II.
** In addition, there have been numerous Holy Grail Wars fought all over the world since the theft of the original grail, which is presumably how Waver managed to achieve the title of Lord El-Melloi II as in ''LightNovel/FateZero''. The main difference is that the Romania Leyline is better than most, allowing the summoning of fourteen Servants rather than ''less than'' seven (a number of these supplementary Grail Wars apparently don't even boast a normal complement) and is capable of reaching the Root.

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* AllMythsAreTrue: Mostly played straight, although there are a few deviations. For example, Vlad III was most certainly not an actual vampire during his lifetime, though the prevalent association with them has given him access to a Noble Phantasm that lets him ''become'' one... though [[BerserkButton he '''really''' loathes it]].
* AllThereInTheManual: A lot of the information about the Servants originally came from the Fate/Complete ''Fate/Complete Material IV IV'' guidebook rather than the actual novel. Fate/Apocrypha Material ''Fate/Apocrypha Material'' further expands on them and also explains what happened to the surviving Masters after the last book.
* AlternateTimeline: In this story, after the Holy Grail was stolen from Fuyuki following the third Holy Grail War by the Yggdmillennia and Yggdmillennia, it was no longer was held there, but there and was instead held in Transylvania. So So, the events of ''LightNovel/FateZero'' and ''VisualNovel/FateStayNight'' never occurred as they should have. However, InSpiteOfANail, Waver is Lord El-Melloi II.
** In addition, there have been numerous Holy Grail Wars fought all over the world since the theft of the original grail, which is presumably how Waver managed to achieve the title of Lord El-Melloi II as in ''LightNovel/FateZero''. The main difference is that the Romania Leyline is better than most, allowing the summoning of fourteen Servants rather than ''less ''fewer than'' seven (a number of these supplementary Grail Wars apparently don't even boast a normal complement) and is capable of reaching the Root.



* AndTheAdventureContinues: In the end, [[spoiler:because Sieg isn't dead and so their contract still exists, Astolfo is still manifested on Earth and goes about exploring on his own.]]

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* AndTheAdventureContinues: In the end, [[spoiler:because Sieg isn't dead and so their contract still exists, Astolfo is still manifested on Earth and goes about exploring on his own.]]own]].
31st Jan '18 2:38:27 AM Sagetsu
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* RousingSpeech: Vlad delivers one to the remaining Black Servants and the Yggdimillenia host as the Hanging Gardens carrying the Red Faction arrives:
--> "Now, here is a question for all of you! Are you willing to accept defeat?"
--> [silence; Frankenstein snarls while [[AskAStupidQuestion Astolfo shrugs]]]
--> "Good! We will be victorious! Such difference in military strength, such despair... [[NoTrueScotsman Who can claim to be a hero]] [[DareToBeBadass without devouring it all down]]? Those are barbarians! They are corrupting my domain and smirking with arrogance! They are folls who must be killed! Laugh as you murder them! Now, go!"
27th Jan '18 3:01:15 PM ultimomant
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** In Episode 9, just as Mordred is about to kill Astolfo, Sieg arrives and challenges her.
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