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22nd Oct '17 10:29:55 PM MasterN
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** Some of the witches are this. Elsa Maria "saves" people by absorbing them into her barrier. Kriemhild Gretchen, [[spoiler: Madoka's witch form in the alternate timelines]], wants to do the same thing to [[KillAllHumans everyone in the world]].

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** Some of the witches are this. Elsa Maria "saves" people by absorbing them into her barrier. Kriemhild Gretchen, [[spoiler: Madoka's witch form in the alternate timelines]], wants to do the same thing to [[KillAllHumans everyone in the world]]. And of course there’s [[spoiler: Homulily/Homucifer, who traps Madoka and the others in a LotusEaterMachine to “protect” them]].
7th Sep '17 6:08:13 PM zealots
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** ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' brings viewers one obvious Templar and one very undercover Templar (so undercover, in fact that you have to go to AllThereInTheManual to confirm him). The obvious Templar is Paptimus Scirocco, the eventual BigBad of the series who frequently gets EvenEvilHasStandards moments regarding his nominal allies, the [[StateSec Titans]]. The undercover Templar is Jamitov Hymen, the actual leader of the Titans who is [[spoiler:assassinated by Scirocco late in the series]]. While seemingly no more than the political counterpart to his thuggish InsaneAdmiral Bosque Ohm, Jamitov's true motives are actually very similar to Scirocco's, as both men want to bring peace to the Earth Sphere by forcing the inhabitants of Earth into the space. The 2005 ''New Translation'' movies tried to make Jamitov's motives a little more clear, since in the original there's almost no hint of his being anything other than the Earthnoid supremacist he pretends to be.

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** ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' brings viewers one obvious Templar and one very undercover Templar (so undercover, in fact that you have to go to AllThereInTheManual to confirm him). The obvious Templar is Paptimus Scirocco, the eventual BigBad of the series who frequently gets EvenEvilHasStandards moments regarding his nominal allies, the [[StateSec Titans]]. The undercover Templar is Jamitov Hymen, the actual leader of the Titans who is [[spoiler:assassinated by Scirocco late in the series]]. While seemingly no more than the political counterpart to his thuggish InsaneAdmiral Bosque Ohm, Jamitov's true motives are actually very similar to Scirocco's, as both men want to bring peace to the Earth Sphere by forcing the inhabitants of Earth into the space. space via "starving them out". The 2005 ''New ''A New Translation'' movies tried to make Jamitov's motives a little more clear, since in the original there's almost no hint of his being anything other than the Earthnoid supremacist he pretends to be.
7th Sep '17 6:05:52 PM zealots
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** In the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' most of the Principality of Zeon's AcePilot characters such as Ramba Ral and Johnny Ridden fervently believe that they are fighting a righteous war of independence against TheFederation, with TheRival Char being a bit of an outlier due to his outward loyal to the cause while secretly having [[EvilIsPetty his own motives]]. Most of the [[TheClan Zabi Family]] that presides over Zeon falls into this as well, particularly Dozle and Garma.

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** In the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' most of the Principality of Zeon's AcePilot characters such as Ramba Ral and Johnny Ridden fervently believe that they are fighting a righteous war of independence against TheFederation, with TheRival Char being a bit of an outlier due to his outward loyal loyalty to the cause while secretly having [[EvilIsPetty his own motives]]. Most of the [[TheClan Zabi Family]] that presides over Zeon falls into this as well, particularly Dozle and Garma.
7th Sep '17 6:02:43 PM zealots
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* A large number of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' antagonists are this. Most Zeon high officials such as Gihren Zabi and Anavel Gato in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory Gundam 0083]]'' fervently believe that Zeon is in the right and are willing to sabotage any efforts for peace between their side and TheFederation -- with superweapons such as [[NukeEm nukes]] and [[ColonyDrop colony drops.]]

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* A large number of the antagonist characters from the various ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' antagonists are this. Most Zeon high officials incarnations tend to be this, due to the prevalence of GreyAndGrayMorality in the larger ''Gundam'' mythos. Interestingly, many of them ''also'' share a common motivation of wanting to force humanity to move off of Earth and into space, for varying reasons from character to character and series to series.
** In the original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'' most of the Principality of Zeon's AcePilot characters
such as Gihren Ramba Ral and Johnny Ridden fervently believe that they are fighting a righteous war of independence against TheFederation, with TheRival Char being a bit of an outlier due to his outward loyal to the cause while secretly having [[EvilIsPetty his own motives]]. Most of the [[TheClan Zabi Family]] that presides over Zeon falls into this as well, particularly Dozle and Anavel Gato in Garma.
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''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory Gundam 0083]]'' fervently 0083]]'', primary antagonist Anavel Gato and his commander Aiguille Delaz are both hardcore Zeon loyalists who not only believe that Zeon is in the was right and are willing but that it is their sacred duty to sabotage any efforts for peace between what is left of their side and TheFederation -- with even if it means using superweapons such as [[NukeEm nukes]] and [[ColonyDrop colony drops.]]]]
** ''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam'' brings viewers one obvious Templar and one very undercover Templar (so undercover, in fact that you have to go to AllThereInTheManual to confirm him). The obvious Templar is Paptimus Scirocco, the eventual BigBad of the series who frequently gets EvenEvilHasStandards moments regarding his nominal allies, the [[StateSec Titans]]. The undercover Templar is Jamitov Hymen, the actual leader of the Titans who is [[spoiler:assassinated by Scirocco late in the series]]. While seemingly no more than the political counterpart to his thuggish InsaneAdmiral Bosque Ohm, Jamitov's true motives are actually very similar to Scirocco's, as both men want to bring peace to the Earth Sphere by forcing the inhabitants of Earth into the space. The 2005 ''New Translation'' movies tried to make Jamitov's motives a little more clear, since in the original there's almost no hint of his being anything other than the Earthnoid supremacist he pretends to be.
** This is played with in ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack'': titular antagonist Char has seemingly become this due to his following in Scirocco and Jamitov's footsteps (though through much more drastic means as he favors colony drops rather than economic warfare). But as it turns out, Char's lofty rhetoric and WellIntentionedExtremist front turns out to be ''exactly that'' -- a front -- and in truth his motives are still just the same EvilIsPetty ones as his original incarnation, having taken control of Neo-Zeon and staged the entire war for the sole purpose of having one more final showdown with his longtime rival Amuro.
** In ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'', BrokenPedestal Master Asia is helping the Devil Gundam because he believes humanity is destroying the Earth (a not invalid belief, judging by the ruined condition of much of the planet we see) and must be either forced off the planet or exterminated outright. Unlike most of his brothers in extremist arms featured here, he is allowed a HeelFaceTurn [[spoiler:via RedemptionEqualsDeath]].
** Treize Khushrenada from ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' is a CulturedWarrior who believes that "war without civility only gives rise to massacres" and so instigates a civil war in his own faction as a protest against the rise of [[MechaMook Mobile Dolls]].
12th Feb '17 9:43:59 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'': The [[TheHunter CCG]] is entirely dedicated to the cause of wiping out the entire Ghoul race, even peaceful ones who don't actually hurt anyone. Humans who sympathize with or aid Ghouls are shown no mercy.

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* ''Manga/TokyoGhoul'': The [[TheHunter [[HunterOfMonsters CCG]] is entirely dedicated to the cause of wiping out the entire Ghoul race, even peaceful ones who don't actually hurt anyone. Humans who sympathize with or aid Ghouls are shown no mercy.
18th Dec '16 11:20:27 AM Morgenthaler
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*** An early episode also subverts this when Brother Tres Iqus, GunKata {{Badass}} ''extraordinaire'', declares his intent to kill an innocent child simply because he has been ordered to by his superiors, but runs out of bullets. Moments later, he empties his weapon into an attacker and walks away (revealing that he does not mindlessly follow orders from the "good guys"), which is saying something because Tres ''[[ArtificialHuman is an android]]''.

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*** An early episode also subverts this when Brother Tres Iqus, GunKata {{Badass}} badass ''extraordinaire'', declares his intent to kill an innocent child simply because he has been ordered to by his superiors, but runs out of bullets. Moments later, he empties his weapon into an attacker and walks away (revealing that he does not mindlessly follow orders from the "good guys"), which is saying something because Tres ''[[ArtificialHuman is an android]]''.
28th Nov '16 5:33:19 PM Prometheus117
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* ''Anime/DragonballSuper'': Zamasu, Supreme Kai-in-training of Universe 10, seems to have this as his primary character trait. He's disgusted by the fact that mortal beings are flawed, and believes the very existence of mortals to be a blight upon the universe. He argues at one point that, as a god, his duty should be to annihilate evil wherever he finds it. His mentor, Gowasu, praises his strong sense of justice but condemns his lack of compassion, saying that their duty should be to guide mortals and help them improve themselves.

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* ''Anime/DragonballSuper'': Zamasu, Supreme Kai-in-training of Universe 10, seems to have this as his primary character trait. He's disgusted by the fact that mortal beings are flawed, and believes the very existence of mortals to be a blight upon the universe. He argues at one point that, as a god, his duty should be to annihilate evil wherever he finds it. His mentor, Gowasu, praises his strong sense of justice but condemns his lack of compassion, saying that their duty should be to guide mortals and help them improve themselves. [[spoiler:In the end, his desire to create a "perfect" universe leads him to commit ''multiversal genocide'' on both the mortals and the gods who would stop him]].
13th Nov '16 10:19:05 AM Stranrep
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** Danzo from is one. While he does acknowledge that some of his actions are [[NecessarilyEvil morally reprehensible]], the lengths he is willing to go to, his conviction that only he can save the world, and the fact that he still believes his methods to be fully justified even when they ''cause'' most of the problems in the series, pushes him over the edge from WellIntentionedExtremist into this trope.

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** Danzo from Shimura is one. While he does acknowledge that some of his actions are [[NecessarilyEvil morally reprehensible]], the lengths he is willing to go to, his conviction that only he can save the world, and the fact that he still believes his methods to be fully justified even when they ''cause'' ''cause most of the problems in the series, series'', pushes him over the edge from WellIntentionedExtremist into this trope.
4th Oct '16 6:58:03 PM n0321
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* A large number of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' antagonists are this. Most Zeon high officials such as Gihren Zabi and Anavel Gato in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory Gundam 0083]]'' fervently believe that Zeon is in the right and are willing to sabotage any efforts for peace between their side and TheFederation -- [[NukeEm With nukes]] and [[ColonyDrop colony drops.]]

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* A large number of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' antagonists are this. Most Zeon high officials such as Gihren Zabi and Anavel Gato in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory Gundam 0083]]'' fervently believe that Zeon is in the right and are willing to sabotage any efforts for peace between their side and TheFederation -- with superweapons such as [[NukeEm With nukes]] and [[ColonyDrop colony drops.]]
4th Oct '16 6:57:29 PM n0321
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* A large number of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' antagonists are this. Most Zeon high officials such as Gihren Zabi and Anavel Gato in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory Gundam 0083]]'' fervently believe that Zeon is in the right and is willing to sabotage any efforts for peace between their side and TheFederation -- [[NukeEm With nukes]] and [[ColonyDrop colony drops.]]

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* A large number of ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' antagonists are this. Most Zeon high officials such as Gihren Zabi and Anavel Gato in ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundam0083StardustMemory Gundam 0083]]'' fervently believe that Zeon is in the right and is are willing to sabotage any efforts for peace between their side and TheFederation -- [[NukeEm With nukes]] and [[ColonyDrop colony drops.]]
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