History JustForFun / AbusingTheKardashevScaleForFunAndProfit

10th Feb '16 7:21:10 PM CompletelyNormalGuy
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Another typo
** Each TARDIS is a DysonSphere. The "Eye of Harmony" (shown in "Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS") is a captured star, frozen in time at the moment it collapses into a black hole. It's in a "room" inside the TARDIS (possible due to BiggerOnTheInside). And the TARDIS uses it as a power source. This means EACH TARDIS is a solid Type II BY ITSELF. The Doctor has all of the power of a solid Type II civilization in his box. And the Doctor's TARDIS is an old obsolete model (effectively a museum piece). Makes you wonder what newer TARDIS's ae like.
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** Each TARDIS is a DysonSphere. The "Eye of Harmony" (shown in "Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS") is a captured star, frozen in time at the moment it collapses into a black hole. It's in a "room" inside the TARDIS (possible due to BiggerOnTheInside). And the TARDIS uses it as a power source. This means EACH TARDIS is a solid Type II BY ITSELF. The Doctor has all of the power of a solid Type II civilization in his box. And the Doctor's TARDIS is an old obsolete model (effectively a museum piece). Makes you wonder what newer TARDIS's ae are like.
10th Feb '16 7:12:00 PM CompletelyNormalGuy
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*** The temperature of a black hole is inversely proportional to its mass, but more massive black holes also have more surface area from which Hawking radiation can be captured. Contrary to what is posted above, a black hole's emission of energy is completely independent of the amount of energy absorbed. This is due to the fact that the temperature is decided by the black hole's mass alone, and the fact that anything with a temperature must radiate (the black hole acts as a black-body with a temperature inversely proportional to its mass). This means that even if a black hole has a net gain of energy, it will still emit energy. A civilization using a black hole as a power source would have a net gain of rnrrgy from it, regardless of whether or not it actually has a net loss or gain of mass.
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*** The temperature of a black hole is inversely proportional to its mass, but more massive black holes also have more surface area from which Hawking radiation can be captured. Contrary to what is posted above, a black hole's emission of energy is completely independent of the amount of energy absorbed. This is due to the fact that the temperature is decided by the black hole's mass alone, and the fact that anything with a temperature must radiate (the black hole acts as a black-body with a temperature inversely proportional to its mass). This means that even if a black hole has a net gain of energy, it will still emit energy. A civilization using a black hole as a power source would have a net gain of rnrrgy energy from it, regardless of whether or not it actually has a net loss or gain of mass.
20th Jan '16 11:01:57 AM thatsnumberwang
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** The above figure is backed up in the Star Trek Voyager episode ''Good Shepherd,'' where Janeway casually orders an extra five terawatts to boost the sensors, which is approximately one third of all the power currently generated by the human race. It does this without a single hiccup in the main power of the rest of the ship or effort from the crew besides a couple of buttons being pushed. And bear in mind that Voyager is a very little ship in comparison to the Enterprise-D.
20th Jan '16 8:00:04 AM Willbyr
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* ''{{Transmetropolitan}}'' explicitly references the trope -- or an older version of it, anyway. Type I is described not only as harnessing all the power, but having eliminated internal conflicts. The other two types are largely the same. Spider notes that they can perform miracles with engines too small to be seen and have turned all of Mercury into a solar battery enough to power the entirety of Earth continuously... but they are still divided. Approximately 10[[superscript:17]]W if 60% or so of Mercury's light is harnessed.
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* ''{{Transmetropolitan}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Transmetropolitan}}'' explicitly references the trope -- or an older version of it, anyway. Type I is described not only as harnessing all the power, but having eliminated internal conflicts. The other two types are largely the same. Spider notes that they can perform miracles with engines too small to be seen and have turned all of Mercury into a solar battery enough to power the entirety of Earth continuously... but they are still divided. Approximately 10[[superscript:17]]W if 60% or so of Mercury's light is harnessed.

* ''BattleAngelAlita'' is probably around here, considering the power of individuals at the Zenith of Things Tournament. Jupiter seems to have a Dyson sphere variant, and a laser that can cut a shield that can block nuclear blasts. Zekka has an internalized anti-matter reactor of sorts, and Don Fua has a black hole generating technique.
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* ''BattleAngelAlita'' ''Manga/{{Gunnm}}'' is probably around here, considering the power of individuals at the Zenith of Things Tournament. Jupiter seems to have a Dyson sphere variant, and a laser that can cut a shield that can block nuclear blasts. Zekka has an internalized anti-matter reactor of sorts, and Don Fua has a black hole generating technique.
12th Jan '16 10:31:58 PM Doug86
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* In his most outrageous [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] incarnation, Comicbook/{{Superman}} could blow out stars with his super-breath, and reignite them with his heat vision. He was thus ''personally'' a Type II on the Kardashev scale.
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* In his most outrageous [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] incarnation, Comicbook/{{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} could blow out stars with his super-breath, and reignite them with his heat vision. He was thus ''personally'' a Type II on the Kardashev scale.
28th Dec '15 10:56:37 PM Adannor
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Damn that entry is a mess, but at least a little fix to qualify it for the scale level.
* The somewhat hazy physics of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' make judging tech levels somewhat difficult, but the Anti-Spirals are easily a Type IV, if not above that: they can manipulate probability to ensure their weapons always hit, they can dodge attacks by casual time travel, and they can create a galaxy-sized HumongousMecha that can use the Big Bang as a WaveMotionGun. And it's suggested that that's nowhere near the limit of their abilities: in ''[[TheMovie Lagann-hen]]'', they one-up their galaxy-sized mecha with a [[SerialEscalation universe-sized one]]. The heroes of the story use [[FunctionalMagic Spiral energy]] to achieve similar abilities (it's likely that the titular Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, the good counterpart to the aforementioned galaxy-sized mecha, is a Type IV on its own), but their civilization is never shown above Type II.
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* In ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'', this is presented as a ''danger'' and is the core motivation of the Anti-Spirals: flagrant abuse of Spiral Energy will create a universe-devouring black hole. However in actual application seen in the series: ** The somewhat hazy physics of ''Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann'' make judging tech levels somewhat difficult, but the Anti-Spirals are easily a Type IV, if not above that: they can manipulate probability to ensure their weapons always hit, they can dodge attacks by casual time travel, and they can create a galaxy-sized HumongousMecha that can use the Big Bang as a WaveMotionGun. And it's suggested that that's nowhere near the limit of their abilities: in ''[[TheMovie Lagann-hen]]'', they one-up their galaxy-sized mecha with a [[SerialEscalation universe-sized one]]. The heroes of the story use [[FunctionalMagic Spiral energy]] to achieve similar abilities (it's likely that the titular Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, the good counterpart to the aforementioned galaxy-sized mecha, is a Type IV on its own), but their civilization is never shown above Type II.
20th Dec '15 5:27:59 PM nombretomado
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* In his most outrageous SilverAge incarnation, Comicbook/{{Superman}} could blow out stars with his super-breath, and reignite them with his heat vision. He was thus ''personally'' a Type II on the Kardashev scale.
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* In his most outrageous SilverAge [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] incarnation, Comicbook/{{Superman}} could blow out stars with his super-breath, and reignite them with his heat vision. He was thus ''personally'' a Type II on the Kardashev scale.
19th Dec '15 9:59:32 AM RavenWilder
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* The Ark and Mount Weather from ''Series/{{The 100}}'' possess slightly more advanced technology than modern humanity, but have very limited resources, and can only support a population equivalent to a small town.
8th Dec '15 12:39:51 PM Akaihiryuu
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** Each TARDIS is a DysonSphere. The "Eye of Harmony" (shown in "Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS") is a captured star, frozen in time at the moment it collapses into a black hole. It's in a "room" inside the TARDIS (possible due to BiggerOnTheInside). And the TARDIS uses it as a power source. This means EACH TARDIS is a solid Type II BY ITSELF. The Doctor has all of the power of a solid Type II civilization in his box.
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** Each TARDIS is a DysonSphere. The "Eye of Harmony" (shown in "Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS") is a captured star, frozen in time at the moment it collapses into a black hole. It's in a "room" inside the TARDIS (possible due to BiggerOnTheInside). And the TARDIS uses it as a power source. This means EACH TARDIS is a solid Type II BY ITSELF. The Doctor has all of the power of a solid Type II civilization in his box. And the Doctor's TARDIS is an old obsolete model (effectively a museum piece). Makes you wonder what newer TARDIS's ae like.
8th Dec '15 12:38:38 PM Akaihiryuu
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** Each TARDIS is a DysonSphere. The "Eye of Harmony" (shown in "Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS") is a captured star, frozen in time at the moment it collapses into a black hole. It's in a "room" inside the TARDIS (possible due to BiggerOnTheInside). And the TARDIS uses it as a power source. This means EACH TARDIS is a solid Type II BY ITSELF. The Doctor has all of the power of a solid Type II civilization in his box.
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