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11th Jan '18 4:16:14 PM Josef5678
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*** The above figure is backed up in the ''Star Trek: Voyager'' episode "Good Shepherd", where Janeway casually orders an extra five terawatts to boost the sensors, which is approximately one third of all the power currently generated by the human race. It does this without a single hiccup in the main power of the rest of the ship or effort from the crew besides a couple of buttons being pushed. And bear in mind that Voyager is a very little ship in comparison to the Enterprise-D.

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*** The above figure is backed up in the ''Star Trek: Voyager'' episode "Good Shepherd", where Janeway casually orders an extra five terawatts to boost the sensors, which is approximately one third of all the power currently generated by the human race. It does this without a single hiccup in the main power of the rest of the ship or effort from the crew besides a couple of buttons being pushed. And bear in mind that Voyager ''Voyager'' is a very little ship in comparison to the Enterprise-D.''Enterprise-D''.



* ''Series/StargateSG1'': Asgard and their enemies the Replicators are tough to call. They are among the most powerful active civilizations (if the Replicators can really be called that) in the setting, but they don't do a whole lot of big, Kardashev-Scale-bumping stuff on screen, and the actual power use of their tech is largely not shown. Still, they're active on a scale that would suggest something in this category.[[note]]The Asgard have ships that can travel between galaxies in days and the ability to collapse stars into black holes, and the Replicators have the ability to completely and perfectly flatten a planet's surface.[[/note]][[note]]The Asgard also managed to disintegrate entire battleship. Not destroy, mind you. Disintegrate[[/note]]

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* ''Series/StargateSG1'': Asgard and their enemies the Replicators are tough to call. They are among the most powerful active civilizations (if the Replicators can really be called that) in the setting, but they don't do a whole lot of big, Kardashev-Scale-bumping stuff on screen, and the actual power use of their tech is largely not shown. Still, they're active on a scale that would suggest something in this category.[[note]]The Asgard have ships that can travel between galaxies in days and the ability to collapse stars into black holes, and the Replicators have the ability to completely and perfectly flatten a planet's surface.[[/note]][[note]]The Asgard also managed to disintegrate entire battleship. Not destroy, mind you. Disintegrate[[/note]]Disintegrate.[[/note]]



* The Inner Sphere in ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' is at least a solid Type I. with several thousand inhabited planets in a 1000 light year radius from Earth. Although some are barely colonies of a few thousand, there are enough multi-billion inhabitant planets (several hundred) to reach a type I just by numbers alone! Depending on the energy requirements of hyperspace jumps (deliberately left vague) it could be pushing up to a Type II.

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* The Inner Sphere in ''TabletopGame/BattleTech'' is at least a solid Type I. I, with several thousand inhabited planets in a 1000 light year radius from Earth. Although some are barely colonies of a few thousand, there are enough multi-billion inhabitant planets (several hundred) to reach a type I just by numbers alone! Depending on the energy requirements of hyperspace jumps (deliberately left vague) it could be pushing up to a Type II.



* Referenced in the AltText for [[http://xkcd.com/975/ this]] ''Webcomic/{{XKCD}}'' strip.

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* %%* Referenced in the AltText for [[http://xkcd.com/975/ this]] ''Webcomic/{{XKCD}}'' strip.



* Samus' weapons in the ''Metroid'' series are slightly ridiculous. She can at least give output many times larger than humanity itself since the Volt Driver shoots "multi-terawatt bursts of electricity". She can also shoot blasts of absolute zero, miniature nukes, matter/antimatter annihilation weapons and neutrinos dense enough to kill things and weapons that can defeat ghosts. These weapons are all hand held and all of them are configurable to the same device. Although Samus is supposedly the exception, most of the more ridiculous examples come from Metroid Prime Hunters and originally belong to various other organizations. Combined with their warp drive technology an output larger than several stars is quite likely. No wonder the Metroid's ability to drain energy is considered so apocalyptic, everyone's technology uses massive quantities of energy!

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* Samus' Samus's weapons in the ''Metroid'' ''Franchise/{{Metroid}}'' series are slightly ridiculous. She can at least give output many times larger than humanity itself since the Volt Driver shoots "multi-terawatt bursts of electricity". She can also shoot blasts of absolute zero, miniature nukes, matter/antimatter annihilation weapons and neutrinos dense enough to kill things and weapons that can defeat ghosts. These weapons are all hand held and all of them are configurable to the same device. Although Samus is supposedly the exception, most of the more ridiculous examples come from Metroid Prime Hunters and originally belong to various other organizations. Combined with their warp drive technology an output larger than several stars is quite likely. No wonder the Metroid's ability to drain energy is considered so apocalyptic, everyone's technology uses massive quantities of energy!



* The holder of the Infinity Gauntlet in the Franchise/MarvelUniverse possesses pretty high order omnipotence, capable of moving multiple universes and effortlessly deposing the living incarnation of all matter, energy and time in the universe.

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* The holder of the Infinity Gauntlet in the Franchise/MarvelUniverse possesses pretty high order omnipotence, capable of moving multiple universes and effortlessly deposing the living incarnation of all matter, energy energy, and time in the universe.
20th Dec '17 12:17:51 PM MaulMachine
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** The same books make it clear that the [[RecursivePrecursors Precursors]] were easily beyond the Forerunners in all ways, however, including creating sentient species with minimal effort, limited future-predicting, galaxy-spanning bioweapons, and wholly indestructible materials. They also had the ability to cross between galaxies, with little - if any - passage of time, instant gene sequencing, and if the newer games are any indication, an ability to predict when an AI will go [[AIIsACrapshoot rampant]]. Maybe. They're still enigmatic for now.
20th Dec '17 12:10:59 PM MaulMachine
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* The Human Federation in the Golden Ages of Technology in ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' are at least on this level. They have easy FasterThanLightTravel within the Milky Way and can easily reach other galaxies, as well as advanced AI, a cure to every disease and casual use of time travel, which they use as one of their standard weapons.

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* The Human Federation in the Golden Ages of Technology in ''TabletopGame/Warhammer40000'' are at least on this level. One of the few men alive to recount it recalls devices called Sun Snuffers (guess what they do) and serpentine robots the size of Saturn's rings. They have easy FasterThanLightTravel created whole species, merged flesh and metal, created devices that can perfectly replicate technologies, crossed the Galaxy with ease, and modified their own genomes. The Emperor has a small collection of man-portable weapons called Adrathic Destructors from the Dark Age that can erase matter at a molecular level, instantly. The Golden Throne allows the person within it to open up the Milky Way and can easily reach other galaxies, as well as advanced AI, a cure roads to every disease and casual use of time travel, the Webway, which can allow people to cross dimensions, invisibly, or walk across the galaxy in hours (admittedly, they use as one of their standard weapons.didn't build the Webway).
9th Dec '17 4:16:26 PM TheKaizerreich
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** The Ancients were all over this. Their earliest shown creations were ships capable of diving into and siphoning stellar material from stars, while their later ships were powered by mass produced Zero Point Energy modules, drawing their power from artificially created regions of subspace. They later expanded this line of research and figured a way to draw power from the universe ''itself'', but abandoned the project after realizing that one of the by-products was exotic matter, which threatened to tear the universe in twain. Their last and final project was [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence Ascension]], where they learnt to shed their physical forms to become all-powerful creatures of pure energy, roughly 10,000 years ago. Due to their self-imposed non-interference rule, they haven't done much since.
** The Ori are probably comparable, though since they actually do stuff in the physical universe, they probably could be rated if more information were available.

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** The Ancients were all over this. Their earliest shown creations were ships capable of diving into and siphoning stellar material from stars, while their later ships were powered by mass produced Zero Point Energy modules, drawing their power from artificially created regions of subspace. They later expanded this line of research and figured a way to draw power from the universe ''itself'', but abandoned the project after realizing that one of the by-products was exotic matter, which threatened to tear the universe in twain. It was also them who created the titular stargates, ring-shaped warp portals just big enough to allow humans (on foot or in a small ship) to dial to a different gate, then travel there in mere seconds, even if the other gate was literally at the other side of the universe (a device for instantenous communication of thought with the same reach also exists). Their last and final project was [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence Ascension]], where they learnt to shed their physical forms to become all-powerful creatures of pure energy, roughly 10,000 years ago. Due to their self-imposed non-interference rule, they haven't done much since.
** The Ori are probably comparable, though since they actually do stuff in the physical universe, they probably could be rated if more information were available. One indicator on their power are "Supergates", which work like a Stargate except scaled up to allow an entire space ship to travel around. The power demands of one of those are only met via syphoning energy from a black hole.
20th Nov '17 12:53:58 AM PaulA
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** The People, from the ''Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures'' novel ''The Also People'', are described as being roughly on par with the Time Lords (to the extent that they actually have a non-aggression pact with them). The technology we see is at the "magic" level, but there's not enough specific information to pinpoint it. They seem to use it only for personal sensual gratification, however. The People are collectively a massive "CaptainErsatz" of [[Creator/IainBanks Iain M. Banks]]'s "The Culture."

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** The People, from the ''Literature/DoctorWhoNewAdventures'' novel ''The ''[[Recap/DoctorWhoNewAdventuresTheAlsoPeople The Also People'', People]]'', are described as being roughly on par with the Time Lords (to the extent that they actually have a non-aggression pact with them). The technology we see is at the "magic" level, but there's not enough specific information to pinpoint it. They seem to use it only for personal sensual gratification, however. The People are collectively a massive "CaptainErsatz" of [[Creator/IainBanks Iain M. Banks]]'s "The Culture.""Literature/TheCulture".
27th Oct '17 11:40:38 AM SeptimusHeap
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* The Combine in ''VideoGame/{{Half-Life 2}}'' has most of their technology operate on exotic matter. Their Citadels are powered by dark energy reactors that screw around with physics to power themselves and generate infinite amounts of dark energy plasma. Said plasma is used for a number of purposes including [[labelnote:portable power sources]]a fist-sized plasma capsule can power a [[DeflectorShield wall-mounted shield generator]][[/labelnote]] and [[labelnote:ammunition]]said plasma capsule acts as a DisintegratorRay on contact with organic matter and Combine pulse weaponry fire plasma blasts that put bullets to shame[[/labelnote]] as well as being fed into a dark fusion reactor that can literally [[{{Teleportation}} tear a hole in the fabric of spacetime and tunnel into other universes]]. While this already makes them Type II, the Combine has already [[PlanetLooters conquered an unknown number of worlds]] which makes them a solid candidate for Type III.

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* The Combine in ''VideoGame/{{Half-Life 2}}'' ''VideoGame/HalfLife2'' has most of their technology operate on exotic matter. Their Citadels are powered by dark energy reactors that screw around with physics to power themselves and generate infinite amounts of dark energy plasma. Said plasma is used for a number of purposes including [[labelnote:portable power sources]]a fist-sized plasma capsule can power a [[DeflectorShield wall-mounted shield generator]][[/labelnote]] and [[labelnote:ammunition]]said plasma capsule acts as a DisintegratorRay on contact with organic matter and Combine pulse weaponry fire plasma blasts that put bullets to shame[[/labelnote]] as well as being fed into a dark fusion reactor that can literally [[{{Teleportation}} tear a hole in the fabric of spacetime and tunnel into other universes]]. While this already makes them Type II, the Combine has already [[PlanetLooters conquered an unknown number of worlds]] which makes them a solid candidate for Type III.
15th Oct '17 11:47:34 PM PaulA
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** It's hard to put a protector - or group of protectors - into any category, given the time, resources and incentive to cooperate instead of trying to kill each other. In the original "Protector" story, Brennan and his childless protectors converted the entire colony planet of 'Home' into a Trojan Horse deathtrap for an incoming ''fleet'' of protectors. (Although it's never explicitly outlined what they did to it. The fact it was later colonized implies that it wouldn't have been substantially deterraformed. The fact that Known Space is not later populated entirely by Pak implies that whatever they did allowed Brennan to ''win''.) Protectors also built the Ringworld, which was theorized to require some kind of energy/matter conversion, and the atomic-level engineering technology needed to create a Ringworld-sized amount of building material. Not to mention the shadow square system and the energy to spin the whole thing up to the required 770km/s to create the artificial gravity. In Ringworld's Children, we see a ''single'' protector develop technology to almost entirely redesign and rebuild the Ringworld "from the ground up" with captured nanotech - and turn the entire thing into a Bussard ramjet powered spaceship.

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** It's hard to put a protector - or group of protectors - into any category, given the time, resources and incentive to cooperate instead of trying to kill each other. In the original "Protector" ''Literature/{{Protector}}'' story, Brennan and his childless protectors converted the entire colony planet of 'Home' into a Trojan Horse deathtrap for an incoming ''fleet'' of protectors. (Although it's never explicitly outlined what they did to it. The fact it was later colonized implies that it wouldn't have been substantially deterraformed. The fact that Known Space is not later populated entirely by Pak implies that whatever they did allowed Brennan to ''win''.) Protectors also built the Ringworld, Literature/{{Ringworld}}, which was theorized to require some kind of energy/matter conversion, and the atomic-level engineering technology needed to create a Ringworld-sized amount of building material. Not to mention the shadow square system and the energy to spin the whole thing up to the required 770km/s to create the artificial gravity. In Ringworld's Children, ''Literature/RingworldsChildren'', we see a ''single'' protector develop technology to almost entirely redesign and rebuild the Ringworld "from the ground up" with captured nanotech - -- and turn the entire thing into a Bussard ramjet powered spaceship.
1st Oct '17 4:46:24 PM HelloLamppost
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* For most of the webcomic ''[[Webcomic/TheInexplicableAdventuresOfBob The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob's]]'' run, the Nemesites appear to be a Type I at most, but the "Cone" story reveals that they actually weild far more powerful technologies than we'd seen, and just have cultural mores against using the high-end stuff casually. A Nemesite Butterfly of Iron can cause a star to go nova on a whim, if it likes.

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* For most of the webcomic ''[[Webcomic/TheInexplicableAdventuresOfBob The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob's]]'' run, the Nemesites appear to be a Type I at most, but the "Cone" story reveals that they actually weild wield far more powerful technologies than we'd seen, and just have cultural mores against using the high-end stuff casually. A Nemesite Butterfly of Iron can cause a star to go nova on a whim, if it likes.
1st Oct '17 4:45:47 PM HelloLamppost
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* For most of the webcomic [[Webcomic/TheInexplicableAdventuresOfBob The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob's]] run, the Nemesites appear to be a Type I at most, but the "Cone" story reveals that they actually weird far more powerful technologies than we'd seen, and just have cultural mores against using the high-end stuff casually. A Nemesite Butterfly of Iron can cause a star to go nova on a whim, if it likes.

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* For most of the webcomic [[Webcomic/TheInexplicableAdventuresOfBob ''[[Webcomic/TheInexplicableAdventuresOfBob The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob's]] Bob's]]'' run, the Nemesites appear to be a Type I at most, but the "Cone" story reveals that they actually weird weild far more powerful technologies than we'd seen, and just have cultural mores against using the high-end stuff casually. A Nemesite Butterfly of Iron can cause a star to go nova on a whim, if it likes.
1st Oct '17 4:44:16 PM HelloLamppost
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* For most of the webcomic [[Webcomic/TheInexplicableAdventuresOfBob The Inexplicable Adventures of Bob's]] run, the Nemesites appear to be a Type I at most, but the "Cone" story reveals that they actually weird far more powerful technologies than we'd seen, and just have cultural mores against using the high-end stuff casually. A Nemesite Butterfly of Iron can cause a star to go nova on a whim, if it likes.
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