History IronicEcho / Theater

5th Apr '16 1:36:53 AM PaulA
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* In ''Under Milkwood'', we hear that Bessie Bighead puts flowers on the grave of Gomer Owen who "kissed her once by the pigsty when she wasn't lookin, but never kissed her again although she was looking all the time." That line gets a laugh. Later on, after we learn that Bessie has Down Syndrome or something of the sort, and that Gomer kissed her because he was dared, when the same line comes back it isn't so funny.

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* In ''Under Milkwood'', ''Theatre/UnderMilkWood'', we hear that Bessie Bighead puts flowers on the grave of Gomer Owen who "kissed her once by the pigsty when she wasn't lookin, looking, but never kissed her again although she was looking all the time." That line gets a laugh. Later on, after we learn that Bessie has Down Syndrome or something of the sort, and that Gomer kissed her because he was dared, when the same line comes back it isn't so funny.
27th Feb '16 3:39:14 PM 1810072342
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** "It is my personal opinion that you do not have what it takes. I hope you'll prove me wrong. I doubt you will." Madame Morrible allows Galinda to join the sorcery seminar at Shiz. Years later, Glinda allows [[spoiler:the guards to take Madame Morrible to prison.]]

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** "It is my personal opinion that you do not have what it takes. I hope you'll prove me wrong. I doubt you will." Madame Morrible allows Galinda Glinda to join the sorcery seminar at Shiz. Years later, Glinda allows [[spoiler:the guards to take Madame Morrible to prison.]]



** In ''Defying Gravity'', Glinda and Elphaba start shouting angrily at each other, saying 'I hope you're happy now, I hope you're happy that you hurt your cause forever' and 'I hope you're happy too, I hope you're proud how you would grovel in submission'. Later, as Elphaba prepares to run away, she calls Glinda to come with her. Even though Glinda agrees that together they would be unstoppable, she still feels she can't and tearfully mutters '[[SincerityMode I hope you're happy]], now that you're choosing this'.



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7th Jan '16 11:18:20 AM nombretomado
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* In ''MissSaigon'', Chris asks Kim, "How in the light of one night did we come so far?", as they fall madly in love and spend the night together. But at the end of the show, as she lies dying in his arms, she asks him the question ("How in one night have we come... so far?"), but this time, it's mourning their lost chance at happiness.
* In ''SouthPacific'', "Younger Than Springtime" initially describes Joe Cable's newfound love for Liat. But after he refuses to marry her (unwilling to confront the prejudice they would face as an interracial couple), the song's reprise now represents the end of their relationship.

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* In ''MissSaigon'', ''Theatre/MissSaigon'', Chris asks Kim, "How in the light of one night did we come so far?", as they fall madly in love and spend the night together. But at the end of the show, as she lies dying in his arms, she asks him the question ("How in one night have we come... so far?"), but this time, it's mourning their lost chance at happiness.
* In ''SouthPacific'', ''Theatre/SouthPacific'', "Younger Than Springtime" initially describes Joe Cable's newfound love for Liat. But after he refuses to marry her (unwilling to confront the prejudice they would face as an interracial couple), the song's reprise now represents the end of their relationship.
24th Jul '15 4:25:29 PM nombretomado
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* In an unusual variation, ''MerrilyWeRollAlong'' is told in reverse order, so the ironic echoes are heard first. For instance, Mary's rather desperate reprise of "Old Friends" is after the friendship has fallen apart; we don't hear it sung genuinely until several more timeskips back.

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* In an unusual variation, ''MerrilyWeRollAlong'' ''Theatre/MerrilyWeRollAlong'' is told in reverse order, so the ironic echoes are heard first. For instance, Mary's rather desperate reprise of "Old Friends" is after the friendship has fallen apart; we don't hear it sung genuinely until several more timeskips back.
7th Feb '15 8:53:32 PM damus2300
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*** Valjean tells Javert "You know nothing of my life/the world!" to which the latter throws back "You know nothing of Javert!"


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**Valjean and Javert's first meeting.
--->'''Javert''': "You will starve again! Unless you learn the meaning of The Law."
--->'''Valjean''': "I learned in those 19 years, a slave of ''the law''."
2nd Dec '14 8:25:57 PM Aiguille
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* In the musical version of ''TheAddamsFamily'', Morticia refuses to dance with Gomez after learning [[BerserkButton he's keeping something from her]], telling him, "Not today." Later, Gomez is distraught that Morticia is leaving him and wondering if it's the end of his marriage and their family. He eventually proclaims, "Not today!"

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* In the musical version of ''TheAddamsFamily'', ''Theatre/TheAddamsFamily'', Morticia refuses to dance with Gomez after learning [[BerserkButton he's keeping something from her]], telling him, "Not today." Later, Gomez is distraught that Morticia is leaving him and wondering if it's the end of his marriage and their family. He eventually proclaims, "Not today!"
12th Aug '14 3:25:43 PM SpacemanSpoof
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** And another one - at the barricade, Valjean prays for Marius to survive, asking God to "Bring him home." Later on, [[spoiler: when Valjean feels that his life is all wrapped up and he's ready to die]] his prayer is similar, but changes to "Bring me home".
** Then there's "Little People". This song introduces Gavroche as a bright, upbeat sort of kid who has a lot of potential. Its reprise is one of the biggest tearjerkers in the whole play: [[spoiler: the rebels are running low on ammo, and Gavroche goes out to loot some from the dead soldiers, singing this song as a sort of Determinator mantra despite being shot repeatedly. He doesn't even finish the song.]]
29th Jul '14 4:37:51 AM WiddershinsDaughter
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29th Jul '14 4:37:50 AM WiddershinsDaughter
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* In the stage play ''AFewGoodMen,'' Lt. Kaffey does this to Col. Jessep in a deconstruction of his motives.
** ''Kaffee:'' You trashed the law! But hey, we understand, you're permitted. You have a greater responsibility than we can possibly fathom. You provide us with a blanket of freedom. We live in a world that has walls and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns, and nothing is going to stand in your way of doing it. Not Willie Santiago, not Dawson and Downey, not Markinson, not 1,000 armies, not the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and not the Constitution of the United States! ''That's the truth isn't it Colonel? '''I can handle it.'''''
5th Mar '14 5:42:05 AM ikissfrogs
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* Used repeatedly in Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet. Nearly all of the main characters get ironic echoes, and most of those echoes are ''much'' darker the second time round.
** ''There was a barber and his wife, and she was beautiful...'' - the first time Todd is mourning the wife he was forced to leave behind. The second time he's still mourning... having just realised that he's responsible for her death.
** ''Eminently practical and yet appropriate as always...'' - first time a genuine compliment from Todd to Mrs Lovett, regarding her idea of making his victims into pies. The second time he's trying to get her guard down...
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