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26th Jun '17 12:02:23 PM MBG159
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* Due to a combination of TheMagicPokerEquation, [[MerchandiseDriven the need to advertise new cards]], a mess of CCGImportanceDissonance, and flat-out bad duel writing, ''Manga/YuGiOh'' is full of duelists who are treated as experts despite their actual strategies being laughable, and cards treated as unstoppable despite being average at best. An easy example is in ''Anime/YuGiOhGX'', where Judai alters his vanilla Elemental Hero deck (which is already by all appearances mediocre) by mixing in Neo-Spacians - not only do the two strategies not synergize at all and frequently get in each other's way, but the Neo-Spacians are noticeably far worse, leading to the odd situation where a protagonist's MidSeasonUpgrade actually seems to ''weaken'' them. Since Neo-Spacians were [[SoLastSeason the new archetype,]] this is never pointed out.
9th Jun '17 7:35:42 PM Prometheus117
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** It's supposed to be impossible to overcome the effects of Shinji Hirako's shikai (so we're told over and over). It's been used twice, and neither of those opponents were more than mildly inconvenienced by it.

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** It's supposed to be impossible to overcome the effects of Shinji Hirako's shikai (so we're told over and over). It's been used twice, and neither of those opponents were more than mildly inconvenienced by it. One of them was [[TheAce Aizen]], and the other was [[MadBomber Bambietta]], who solved the problem of having her senses flipped around by just ''nuking everywhere''.



* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', there are several moves which represent this, although it would be classed more as ''Informed Power'' then ability. The Iron Dragon's Sword is stated by Gajeel to "be able to tear through anything it touches" yet has not hit a single target, presumably due to fights ending rather quickly should it actually hit. Whilst there are other moves that fit this bill, such as Laxus' Raging Bolt, but the Abyss Break is a noticeable case. It's supposedly a devastating spell that is capable of wiping away an entire town. The first time it's attempted to be cast, it's power source is removed, the second time, the user ''faints'' before being able to finish casting it. Abyss Break is the only spell to have never been officially cast despite being mentioned practically once every other arc.
** In fact, any such spell that's potentially able to end a target's life can be predicted as likely to miss or prove nowhere near as effective as claimed.

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* In ''Manga/FairyTail'', there are several moves which represent this, although it would be classed more as ''Informed Power'' then than ability. The Iron Dragon's Sword is stated by Gajeel to "be able to tear through anything it touches" yet has not hit a single target, presumably due to fights ending rather quickly should it actually hit.hit (it ''is'' a [[ChainsawGood chainsaw]] and the results would be messy). Whilst there are other moves that fit this bill, such as Laxus' Raging Bolt, but the Abyss Break is a noticeable case. It's supposedly a devastating spell that is capable of wiping away an entire town. The first time it's attempted to be cast, it's power source is removed, the second time, the user ''faints'' ''loses concentration'' before being able to finish casting it.it because of a previous injury. Abyss Break is the only spell to have never been officially cast despite being mentioned practically once every other arc.
** In fact, any such spell that's potentially able to end a target's life can be predicted as likely to miss or miss, fail to casted in time, prove nowhere near as effective as claimed.claimed, or someone else with more health takes it instead and barely survives.
9th Jun '17 7:29:47 PM Prometheus117
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** [[AllThereInTheManual Supplemental material]] establishes Krillin as the strongest human character in the series. Barring the fact that most non-Saiyans CantCatchUp, Tien had the better showings in fights throughout the series, though this could be attributed to Krillin's cowardice and the fact that [[OvershadowedByAwesome he tended to enter fights with Goku and Gohan by his side]].

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** [[AllThereInTheManual Supplemental material]] establishes Krillin as the strongest human character in the series. Barring the fact that most non-Saiyans CantCatchUp, Tien had the better showings in fights throughout the series, though this could be attributed to Krillin's cowardice and cowardice, the fact that [[OvershadowedByAwesome he tended to enter fights with Goku and Gohan by his side]].side]], and [[AllThereInTheManual Tien is actually descended from an alien race that landed on Earth and interbedded with humans]], so Krillin is the strongest ''pure'' human character.
7th Mar '17 4:44:43 AM flodoris
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** Another victim of this trope is the 2nd Hokage. Despite doing all of nothing in the one fight he has on-panel in the series, much, much later chapters have revealed several capabilities of his that have never been seen, including [[spoiler:creating the Edo Tensei technique, which allows the user to use golems of dead people to fight their opponent]], and [[spoiler:being a master of Space/Time techniques, the same techniques used by Madara and Minato Namikaze, the Fourth Hokage, which make them NighInvulnerable]].

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** Another victim of this trope is the 2nd Hokage. Despite doing all of nothing in the one fight he has on-panel in the series, much, much later chapters have revealed several capabilities of his that have never been seen, including [[spoiler:creating the Edo Tensei technique, which allows the user to use golems of dead people to fight their opponent]], and [[spoiler:being a master of Space/Time techniques, the same techniques used by Madara and Minato Namikaze, the Fourth Hokage, which make them NighInvulnerable]].him NighInvulnerable.]]
9th Feb '17 10:49:11 AM HeSupplanted
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**The most likely explanation is that she was lying. She says this once in a scene where it's explicitly shown she's trying to get Shinji's attention (rubbing her breasts in front of him, shouting at him later to watch her dive into the water), it's never brought up again by her or any other character (you'd think the arrogant Asuka would bring it up again if it was true), and as noted above, it's incredibly implausible; it's almost certain she was just lying to make herself [[{{Tsundere}} look smart in front of Shinji]].
18th Dec '16 11:21:35 AM Morgenthaler
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** The ANBU sent on all the most dangerous missions, any BadAss main character has spent time in the ANBU, and overall, supposed to be the [=SEALs=] of the ninja world. When they actually get into a fight, they're degraded to {{mook}} status, those formerly BadAss masks now cementing their status as CannonFodder. The fact that they're anonymous but allegedly elite makes them custom-made for TheWorfEffect.

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** The ANBU sent on all the most dangerous missions, any BadAss badass main character has spent time in the ANBU, and overall, supposed to be the [=SEALs=] of the ninja world. When they actually get into a fight, they're degraded to {{mook}} status, those formerly BadAss badass masks now cementing their status as CannonFodder. The fact that they're anonymous but allegedly elite makes them custom-made for TheWorfEffect.
15th Dec '16 6:49:57 PM Doug86
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* ''Manga/DragonBallZ'':

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10th Dec '16 5:34:40 PM eowynjedi
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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE'' does this to Kio Asuno, the third-generation protagonist. Initially, he's an inexperienced pilot who relies on the power of the Gundam, [[PsychicPowers his X-Rounder abilities]], and his wingmates to get through battle. As the series progresses, everyone starts talking about what a great pilot he is, except he's still easily defeated as soon as he's deprived of one of his crutches.

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE'' does this to Kio Asuno, the third-generation protagonist. Initially, he's an inexperienced pilot who relies on the power of the Gundam, [[PsychicPowers his X-Rounder abilities]], and his wingmates to get through battle. As the series progresses, everyone starts talking about what a great pilot he is, except he's still easily defeated as entirely reliant on the Gundam, his X-Rounder abilities, and his wingmates to survive--as soon as he's deprived of one of his crutches.those three things, he starts losing.
13th Nov '16 5:34:40 AM thatsnumberwang
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** The five members of the Zero Squad are stated to be stronger than the entire Gotei 13 - and maybe they are. The problem is that A) They are poorly fleshed out due to being introduced right at the end of the series, so it is hard to argue using on-page evidence that anyone except Nimaiya could have defeated someone like Yamamoto or Kenpachi, and B) in the first major battle we see them in, they are up against [[InvincibleVillain Yhwach,]] with the end result that four out of five of them were defeated between scenes.
26th Oct '16 3:45:16 PM totoofze47
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* ''Franchise/OnePiece'': The Sea Kings are supposedly very powerful, and serve as a means of dissuading sailors from entering the Calm Belt, but they only demonstrate how deadly they are when the Lord of the Coast- which was extremely vicious compared to most Sea Kings- eats Higuma the Bear in Luffy's past, and then eats Shanks' arm. They mostly serve to show how powerful certain characters are by [[TheWorfEffect falling in battle against them]]. Some even get cut in two.
** There is, however, immense variance in size and power among Sea Kings. The latest arc has appearances by Sea Kings like [[FanNickname Stripey]] who are bigger than good-sized islands; Lord of the Coast is probably about the size of one of their ''teeth''. These uber-Sea Kings also, unlike previous smaller ones, demonstrate human-level intelligence.
** Additionally, their primary threat is what they can do to ships rather than characters. Alot of the high end characters are Devil Fruit users. Destroy the ship and there's nothing keeping them out of the water. TKO. This is why Marine ships have Seastone hulls, because that material keeps Sea Kings from noticing their presence (Though it doesn't make the ships invisible to them). Other modes of transport, like the Sea Train, have a whistle that scares them off.

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* ''Franchise/OnePiece'': The ''Franchise/OnePiece'':
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Sea Kings Kings. They are supposedly very powerful, and serve as a means of dissuading sailors from entering the Calm Belt, but they only demonstrate how deadly they are when the Lord of the Coast- which was extremely vicious compared to most Sea Kings- eats Higuma the Bear in Luffy's past, and then eats Shanks' arm. They Their strength being never shown onscreen, they mostly serve to show how powerful certain characters are by [[TheWorfEffect falling in battle against them]]. Some even get cut in two.
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** There is, however, immense variance in size and power among Sea Kings. The latest One arc has appearances by Sea Kings like [[FanNickname Stripey]] who are bigger than good-sized islands; Lord of the Coast is probably about the size of one of their ''teeth''. These uber-Sea Kings also, unlike previous smaller ones, demonstrate human-level intelligence.
** Additionally, their primary threat is what they can do to ships rather than characters. Alot A lot of the high end characters are Devil Fruit users. Destroy the ship and there's nothing keeping them out of the water. TKO. This is why Marine ships have Seastone hulls, because that material keeps Sea Kings from noticing their presence (Though it doesn't make the ships invisible to them). Other modes of transport, like the Sea Train, have a whistle that scares them off.off.
** Finally, while there are creatures so powerful that they prey on even Sea Kings, said Sea Kings are also dangerous by their sheer number. [[spoiler:To the point that the ability to talk to and command Sea Kings is enough to make the person who wields it considered one of the Ancient Weapons, Poseidon, capable of destroying the world if in the wrong hands. Good thing the person who currently holds this power is an adorable and extremely kind young princess who wouldn't hurt a fly.]]
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