History InformedAbility / AnimeAndManga

7th Feb '18 9:05:25 AM MBG159
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** Ray, the original incarnation of the Bracelet girls, was supposedly a professional duelist whose crowning achievement is defeating the aforementioned Zarc so thoroughly that his dragons are later shown to be terrified of her revival. At no point are we shown even a sliver of her talent, or even her personal deck; her victory simply came from snatching up four special cards that her father made specifically to defeat Zarc, yet the narrative insists that ''she'', not just the cards, is crucial to defeating Zarc when he revives. [[spoiler:Course we see Leo attempting to use the cards and he was beaten before he got the chance to. And once Ray came back, she was able to flatten Zarc.]]
* ''Anime/YuGiOhVrains''
** Yusaku is lauded as the best duelist in the series early on and a genius duelist. Which would be fine if his go-to strategy wasn't use his [[StoryBreakerPower skill which is more or less a Shining Draw.]]

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** Ray, the original incarnation of the Bracelet girls, was supposedly a professional duelist whose crowning achievement is defeating the aforementioned Zarc so thoroughly that his dragons are later shown to be terrified of her revival. At no point are we shown even a sliver of her talent, or even her personal deck; her victory simply came from snatching up four special cards that her father made specifically to defeat Zarc, yet the narrative insists that ''she'', not just the cards, is crucial to defeating Zarc when he revives. [[spoiler:Course we see [[spoiler:While Leo attempting fails to use the cards and he was beaten before he got the chance to. And once Ray came back, she was able them to flatten Zarc.]]
* ''Anime/YuGiOhVrains''
** Yusaku is lauded as the best duelist in the series early on and
defeat Zarc, it only didn't work thanks to a genius duelist. Which card that would be fine if his go-to strategy wasn't use his [[StoryBreakerPower skill which is more or less a Shining Draw.]] have countered Ray equally well.]]
6th Feb '18 9:15:15 PM patxiao
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** Yusaku is lauded as the best duelist in the series early on and a genius duelist. Which would be fine if his go-to strategy wasn't use his [[[[StoryBreakerPower skill which is more or less a Shining Draw.]]

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** Yusaku is lauded as the best duelist in the series early on and a genius duelist. Which would be fine if his go-to strategy wasn't use his [[[[StoryBreakerPower [[StoryBreakerPower skill which is more or less a Shining Draw.]] ]]
6th Feb '18 9:14:44 PM patxiao
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** Isao Kachidoki, who placed second in the last Maiami Championship tournament, is treated as an incredibly skilled and expertly-trained Duelist. However, he doesn't know how Ranks work in a world where Xyz Summoning is quite common, which makes this hard to believe. Although considering how he physically beats the opponent in a duel to prevent them from getting action cards and whatnot, his opponents likely have a hard time focusing.



** Ray, the original incarnation of the Bracelet girls, was supposedly a professional duelist whose crowning achievement is defeating the aforementioned Zarc so thoroughly that his dragons are later shown to be terrified of her revival. At no point are we shown even a sliver of her talent, or even her personal deck; her victory simply came from snatching up four special cards that her father made specifically to defeat Zarc, yet the narrative insists that ''she'', not just the cards, is crucial to defeating Zarc when he revives.

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** Ray, the original incarnation of the Bracelet girls, was supposedly a professional duelist whose crowning achievement is defeating the aforementioned Zarc so thoroughly that his dragons are later shown to be terrified of her revival. At no point are we shown even a sliver of her talent, or even her personal deck; her victory simply came from snatching up four special cards that her father made specifically to defeat Zarc, yet the narrative insists that ''she'', not just the cards, is crucial to defeating Zarc when he revives. [[spoiler:Course we see Leo attempting to use the cards and he was beaten before he got the chance to. And once Ray came back, she was able to flatten Zarc.]]
* ''Anime/YuGiOhVrains''
** Yusaku is lauded as the best duelist in the series early on and a genius duelist. Which would be fine if his go-to strategy wasn't use his [[[[StoryBreakerPower skill which is more or less a Shining Draw.]]
1st Feb '18 12:08:29 AM KOman
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** Ray, the original incarnation of the Bracelet girls, was supposedly a professional duelist whose crowning achievement is defeating the aforementioned Zarc so thoroughly that his dragons are later shown to be terrified of her revival. At no point does the show ever show even a sliver of her talent, or even her personal deck; her victory simply came from snatching up four special cards that her father made specifically to defeat Zarc, yet the narrative insists that ''she'', not just the cards, is crucial to defeating Zarc when he revives.

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** Ray, the original incarnation of the Bracelet girls, was supposedly a professional duelist whose crowning achievement is defeating the aforementioned Zarc so thoroughly that his dragons are later shown to be terrified of her revival. At no point does the show ever show are we shown even a sliver of her talent, or even her personal deck; her victory simply came from snatching up four special cards that her father made specifically to defeat Zarc, yet the narrative insists that ''she'', not just the cards, is crucial to defeating Zarc when he revives.
29th Jan '18 9:31:17 AM MBG
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** A number of characters are lauded for their masterful tactical abilities, particularly Gohan and Piccolo. While they're not stupid most of the time, they rarely display anything more complicated than the occasional misdirection ploy, and seem to hold the IdiotBall with about the same frequency as everyone else. Both of them were even OutGambitted by [[DumbMuscle Super Buu.]]
28th Jan '18 7:09:27 PM KOman
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*** Another example from Zarc is Pendulum Summoning, which he claims to have created to combat the four Nature Cards. His Pendulum monsters proved no less vulnerable to destruction from the Nature Cards' effects, merely being easier to summon back to his field afterward.
28th Jan '18 4:02:09 AM thatsnumberwang
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** The Sokyoku is supposed to have the power of a million Zanpakuto - which Ichigo blocked using only one (and in his Shikai form no less). And to make matters worse, we later learn that Ichigo's current sword is in fact only using a fraction of its true potential due to how his powers work, meaning that Ichigo achieved this feat using an imperfect Zanpakuto. He's strong, but there is no way that he is ''that'' strong.
27th Jan '18 5:47:18 PM KOman
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** Ray, the original incarnation of the Bracelet girls, was supposedly a professional duelist whose crowning achievement is defeating the aforementioned Zarc so thoroughly that his dragons are later shown to be terrified of her of her revival. At no point does the show ever show even a sliver of her talent, or even her personal deck; her victory simply came from snatching up four special cards that her father made specifically to defeat Zarc, yet the narrative insists that ''she'', not just the cards, is crucial to defeating Zarc when he revives.

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** Ray, the original incarnation of the Bracelet girls, was supposedly a professional duelist whose crowning achievement is defeating the aforementioned Zarc so thoroughly that his dragons are later shown to be terrified of her of her revival. At no point does the show ever show even a sliver of her talent, or even her personal deck; her victory simply came from snatching up four special cards that her father made specifically to defeat Zarc, yet the narrative insists that ''she'', not just the cards, is crucial to defeating Zarc when he revives.
27th Jan '18 3:12:57 PM KOman
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** Ray, the original incarnation of the Bracelet girls, was supposedly a professional duelist whose crowning achievement is defeating the aforementioned Zarc so thoroughly that his dragons are later shown to be terrified of her of her revival. At no point does the show ever show even a sliver of her talent, or even her personal deck; her victory simply came from snatching up four special cards that her father made specifically to defeat Zarc, yet the narrative insists that ''she'', not just the cards, is crucial to defeating Zarc when he revives.
31st Dec '17 7:20:27 PM MBG159
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** Team Unicorn is praised for their amazing teamwork, yet when Team 5D's looks up data on their past duels, it's revealed that Andre defeated each opposing team by himself without relying on Breo or Jean. Even in their match against Team 5D's, Andre did the majority of the work by defeating both Jack and Aki, as well as cutting Yusei's life points in half.

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** Team Unicorn is praised for their amazing teamwork, yet when Team 5D's looks up data on their past duels, it's revealed that Andre defeated each opposing team by himself without relying on Breo or Jean. Even in their match against Team 5D's, Andre did the majority of the work by defeating both Jack and Aki, as well as cutting Yusei's life points in half.half, while Breo pursued a [[InstantWinCondition mill]] strategy which didn't intersect in the slightest with Andre's rapid beatdown.



** It carries over to his progenitor, Zarc, who was supposed to be an internationally-famous celebrity and entertainer before he became the BigBad. In his only onscreen match, he uses what might well be one of [[ArcFatigue the most boring strategies]] in the franchise, relying entirely on [[StoryBreakerPower his overpowered dragon's]] protective effects to NoSell everything the protagonists throw at him. This is suggested to be the result of his fear of losing, something that developed even before he turned evil - in that case, its hard to imagine how he became a crowd favorite.

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** It carries over to his progenitor, Zarc, who was supposed to be an internationally-famous celebrity and entertainer before he became the BigBad. In his only onscreen match, he uses what might well be one of [[ArcFatigue the most boring strategies]] in the franchise, relying entirely on [[StoryBreakerPower his overpowered dragon's]] protective effects to NoSell everything the protagonists throw at him. This is suggested to be the result of his fear of losing, something that developed even before he turned evil - in that case, its it's hard to imagine how he became a crowd favorite.
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