History InformedAbility / AnimeAndManga

7th Mar '17 4:44:43 AM flodoris
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** Another victim of this trope is the 2nd Hokage. Despite doing all of nothing in the one fight he has on-panel in the series, much, much later chapters have revealed several capabilities of his that have never been seen, including [[spoiler:creating the Edo Tensei technique, which allows the user to use golems of dead people to fight their opponent]], and [[spoiler:being a master of Space/Time techniques, the same techniques used by Madara and Minato Namikaze, the Fourth Hokage, which make them NighInvulnerable]].

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** Another victim of this trope is the 2nd Hokage. Despite doing all of nothing in the one fight he has on-panel in the series, much, much later chapters have revealed several capabilities of his that have never been seen, including [[spoiler:creating the Edo Tensei technique, which allows the user to use golems of dead people to fight their opponent]], and [[spoiler:being a master of Space/Time techniques, the same techniques used by Madara and Minato Namikaze, the Fourth Hokage, which make them NighInvulnerable]].him NighInvulnerable.]]
9th Feb '17 10:49:11 AM HeSupplanted
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**The most likely explanation is that she was lying. She says this once in a scene where it's explicitly shown she's trying to get Shinji's attention (rubbing her breasts in front of him, shouting at him later to watch her dive into the water), it's never brought up again by her or any other character (you'd think the arrogant Asuka would bring it up again if it was true), and as noted above, it's incredibly implausible; it's almost certain she was just lying to make herself [[{{Tsundere}} look smart in front of Shinji]].
18th Dec '16 11:21:35 AM Morgenthaler
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** The ANBU sent on all the most dangerous missions, any BadAss main character has spent time in the ANBU, and overall, supposed to be the [=SEALs=] of the ninja world. When they actually get into a fight, they're degraded to {{mook}} status, those formerly BadAss masks now cementing their status as CannonFodder. The fact that they're anonymous but allegedly elite makes them custom-made for TheWorfEffect.

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** The ANBU sent on all the most dangerous missions, any BadAss badass main character has spent time in the ANBU, and overall, supposed to be the [=SEALs=] of the ninja world. When they actually get into a fight, they're degraded to {{mook}} status, those formerly BadAss badass masks now cementing their status as CannonFodder. The fact that they're anonymous but allegedly elite makes them custom-made for TheWorfEffect.
15th Dec '16 6:49:57 PM Doug86
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* ''Manga/DragonBallZ'':

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10th Dec '16 5:34:40 PM eowynjedi
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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE'' does this to Kio Asuno, the third-generation protagonist. Initially, he's an inexperienced pilot who relies on the power of the Gundam, [[PsychicPowers his X-Rounder abilities]], and his wingmates to get through battle. As the series progresses, everyone starts talking about what a great pilot he is, except he's still easily defeated as soon as he's deprived of one of his crutches.

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE'' does this to Kio Asuno, the third-generation protagonist. Initially, he's an inexperienced pilot who relies on the power of the Gundam, [[PsychicPowers his X-Rounder abilities]], and his wingmates to get through battle. As the series progresses, everyone starts talking about what a great pilot he is, except he's still easily defeated as entirely reliant on the Gundam, his X-Rounder abilities, and his wingmates to survive--as soon as he's deprived of one of his crutches.those three things, he starts losing.
13th Nov '16 5:34:40 AM thatsnumberwang
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** The five members of the Zero Squad are stated to be stronger than the entire Gotei 13 - and maybe they are. The problem is that A) They are poorly fleshed out due to being introduced right at the end of the series, so it is hard to argue using on-page evidence that anyone except Nimaiya could have defeated someone like Yamamoto or Kenpachi, and B) in the first major battle we see them in, they are up against [[InvincibleVillain Yhwach,]] with the end result that four out of five of them were defeated between scenes.
26th Oct '16 3:45:16 PM totoofze47
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* ''Franchise/OnePiece'': The Sea Kings are supposedly very powerful, and serve as a means of dissuading sailors from entering the Calm Belt, but they only demonstrate how deadly they are when the Lord of the Coast- which was extremely vicious compared to most Sea Kings- eats Higuma the Bear in Luffy's past, and then eats Shanks' arm. They mostly serve to show how powerful certain characters are by [[TheWorfEffect falling in battle against them]]. Some even get cut in two.
** There is, however, immense variance in size and power among Sea Kings. The latest arc has appearances by Sea Kings like [[FanNickname Stripey]] who are bigger than good-sized islands; Lord of the Coast is probably about the size of one of their ''teeth''. These uber-Sea Kings also, unlike previous smaller ones, demonstrate human-level intelligence.
** Additionally, their primary threat is what they can do to ships rather than characters. Alot of the high end characters are Devil Fruit users. Destroy the ship and there's nothing keeping them out of the water. TKO. This is why Marine ships have Seastone hulls, because that material keeps Sea Kings from noticing their presence (Though it doesn't make the ships invisible to them). Other modes of transport, like the Sea Train, have a whistle that scares them off.

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Sea Kings Kings. They are supposedly very powerful, and serve as a means of dissuading sailors from entering the Calm Belt, but they only demonstrate how deadly they are when the Lord of the Coast- which was extremely vicious compared to most Sea Kings- eats Higuma the Bear in Luffy's past, and then eats Shanks' arm. They Their strength being never shown onscreen, they mostly serve to show how powerful certain characters are by [[TheWorfEffect falling in battle against them]]. Some even get cut in two.
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** There is, however, immense variance in size and power among Sea Kings. The latest One arc has appearances by Sea Kings like [[FanNickname Stripey]] who are bigger than good-sized islands; Lord of the Coast is probably about the size of one of their ''teeth''. These uber-Sea Kings also, unlike previous smaller ones, demonstrate human-level intelligence.
** Additionally, their primary threat is what they can do to ships rather than characters. Alot A lot of the high end characters are Devil Fruit users. Destroy the ship and there's nothing keeping them out of the water. TKO. This is why Marine ships have Seastone hulls, because that material keeps Sea Kings from noticing their presence (Though it doesn't make the ships invisible to them). Other modes of transport, like the Sea Train, have a whistle that scares them off.off.
** Finally, while there are creatures so powerful that they prey on even Sea Kings, said Sea Kings are also dangerous by their sheer number. [[spoiler:To the point that the ability to talk to and command Sea Kings is enough to make the person who wields it considered one of the Ancient Weapons, Poseidon, capable of destroying the world if in the wrong hands. Good thing the person who currently holds this power is an adorable and extremely kind young princess who wouldn't hurt a fly.]]
18th Oct '16 11:16:06 PM Nintendoman01
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** [[AllThereInTheManual Supplemental material]] establishes Krillin as the strongest human character in the series. Barring the fact that most non-Saiyans CantCatchUp, Tien had the better showings in fights throughout the series, though this could be attributed to Krillin's cowardice and the fact that [[OvershadowedByAwesome he tended to enter fights with Goku and Gohan by his side]].
14th Oct '16 2:36:28 PM Nintendoman01
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* ''Manga/DragonBallZ'': In the anime, when Frieza and King Cold are landing on Earth, the Z-Fighters state that Cold's PowerLevel is even higher than Frieza. Of course, since Trunks kills Cold with even less effort than when he killed Frieza, who is explicitly mentioned to even stronger as [[{{Cyborg}} Mecha-Frieza]] than he was when he fought Goku on Namek, this is a little difficult to believe.

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In the anime, when Frieza and King Cold are landing on Earth, the Z-Fighters state that Cold's PowerLevel is even higher than Frieza. Frieza's. Of course, since Trunks kills Cold with even less effort than when he killed Frieza, who is explicitly mentioned to even stronger as [[{{Cyborg}} Mecha-Frieza]] than he was when he fought Goku on Namek, this is a little difficult to believe.believe.
** Burter of the [[QuirkyMinibossSquad Ginyu Force]] repeatedly boasts that he's the fastest in the universe, to the extent that he's in disbelief that Goku is faster than him. However, both Captain Ginyu and Frieza are ''clearly'' much faster than he is.
17th Sep '16 11:40:02 AM Hanz
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* One might be excused for forgetting that Sena Kashiwazaki from BokuWaTomodachiGaSukunai is meant to be an academic genius and an athletic prodigy, as the LawOfFunny means she regularly falls for painfully obvious tricks and the LawOfSexy means her general method of movement is clumsy enough to invoke plenty of swinging shots of her GagBoobs. She's also laughably clueless, although in that regard she may be justified due to her absurd wealth making her unfamiliar with the way the "real world" works.

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* One might be excused for forgetting that Sena Kashiwazaki from BokuWaTomodachiGaSukunai LightNovel/BokuWaTomodachiGaSukunai is meant to be an academic genius and an athletic prodigy, as the LawOfFunny RuleOfFunny means she regularly falls for painfully obvious tricks and the LawOfSexy RuleOfSexy means her general method of movement is clumsy enough to invoke plenty of swinging shots of her GagBoobs. She's also laughably clueless, although in that regard she may be justified due to her absurd wealth making her unfamiliar with the way the "real world" works.
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