History IneffectualSympatheticVillain / ComicBooks

8th Jan '17 1:55:44 PM nombretomado
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** While the "regular" Shocker has his moments of competence and NotSoHarmlessVillain, his UltimateMarvel counterpart consistently fits this trope. Even in the [[VideoGame/UltimateSpiderMan video game adaptation]] he ends up being the WarmupBoss. It actually got to the point where the mere sight of Spider-Man (who never dignifies him enough to call him "Shocker") was enough to send him running in terror.

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** While the "regular" Shocker has his moments of competence and NotSoHarmlessVillain, his UltimateMarvel ComicBook/UltimateMarvel counterpart consistently fits this trope. Even in the [[VideoGame/UltimateSpiderMan video game adaptation]] he ends up being the WarmupBoss. It actually got to the point where the mere sight of Spider-Man (who never dignifies him enough to call him "Shocker") was enough to send him running in terror.



* The MarvelUniverse's Toad is a classic example of this. He has [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway second-rate powers]], a stupid nickname, and an even stupider real name (Mortimer Toynbee). Understandably, he hated himself. However, the first ''Film/{{X-Men}}'' live action film, with the character played by Ray Park, changed him into a wry villain with more self-respect and redefined powers that are actually scary in their deadliness -- managing to become his ''own'' CanonImmigrant (in particular, his UltimateMarvel incarnation is much more badass than his first one).

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* The MarvelUniverse's Franchise/MarvelUniverse's Toad is a classic example of this. He has [[WhatKindOfLamePowerIsHeartAnyway second-rate powers]], a stupid nickname, and an even stupider real name (Mortimer Toynbee). Understandably, he hated himself. However, the first ''Film/{{X-Men}}'' ''Film/XMen'' live action film, with the character played by Ray Park, changed him into a wry villain with more self-respect and redefined powers that are actually scary in their deadliness -- managing to become his ''own'' CanonImmigrant (in particular, his UltimateMarvel ComicBook/UltimateMarvel incarnation is much more badass than his first one).
15th Dec '16 9:58:18 AM narm00
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* Bolphunga the Unrelenting, from ''GreenLantern''. A LargeHam villain, notable for using an axe against power-ring wielding space cops, and for attempting to take on [[GeniusLoci Mogo]].
* A good [[HeWhoMustNotBeSeen unseen character]] example is Captain Carnage from ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}''. His ineffectual nature was on purpose: he was a masochist who enjoyed being on the receiving end of fists... until he tried it on [[SociopathicHero Rorschach]], who dropped him down an empty elevator shaft.

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* Bolphunga the Unrelenting, from ''GreenLantern''. ''Franchise/GreenLantern''. A LargeHam villain, notable for using an axe against power-ring wielding space cops, and for attempting to take on [[GeniusLoci Mogo]].
* A good [[HeWhoMustNotBeSeen unseen character]] example is Captain Carnage from ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}''. His ineffectual nature was on purpose: he was a masochist who enjoyed being on the receiving end of fists... until he tried it on [[SociopathicHero Rorschach]], who dropped him down an empty elevator shaft.
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* Rainbow Raider in ''ComicBook/TheFlash'' became this, once going so far as to attend a villainy motivational seminar in a futile effort to stop losing all the time. Neron once sent him an invitation to his [[NotSoHarmlessVillain upgrades-for-souls meeting]] just so the Trickster could steal it from him.
* [[ComicBook/GreenLantern Larfleeze]] is implied to be capable of taking on the collected Guardians of the Universe, has natural abilities allowing him to stand his own against entire armies, and has had a billion-year-old enemy create an entire artificial star system as part of a plan to defeat him. He's also so short-sighted and gluttonous that he spent most of recorded history squatting and eating in a tiny corner of a planet that evidently didn't know he was there.

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* Rainbow Raider in ''ComicBook/TheFlash'' ''Franchise/TheFlash'' became this, once going so far as to attend a villainy motivational seminar in a futile effort to stop losing all the time. Neron once sent him an invitation to his [[NotSoHarmlessVillain upgrades-for-souls meeting]] just so the Trickster could steal it from him.
* [[ComicBook/GreenLantern [[Franchise/GreenLantern Larfleeze]] is implied to be capable of taking on the collected Guardians of the Universe, has natural abilities allowing him to stand his own against entire armies, and has had a billion-year-old enemy create an entire artificial star system as part of a plan to defeat him. He's also so short-sighted and gluttonous that he spent most of recorded history squatting and eating in a tiny corner of a planet that evidently didn't know he was there.



* Pretty much every victim of Scourge (or would-be victim who escaped) has fit the Trope, and a few of them were guys who quit being villains because they ''knew'' they were no good at it. Scourge rarely goes after a major player. They've ''attempted'' to target a few respectable villains, including the Kraven the Hunter, Hobgoblin, Puppet Master, Cobra, and Diamondback, but failed each time for one reason or another. (Of course, [[WordOfGod Mark Gruenwald claimed]] that the whole reason Scourge was designed, originally, was to dispose of villains deemed to be too minor, redundant, or ill-conceived, and he's regretted this since then.)

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* Pretty much every victim of Scourge (or would-be victim who escaped) has fit the Trope, and a few of them were guys who quit being villains because they ''knew'' they were no good at it. Scourge rarely goes after a major player. They've ''attempted'' to target a few respectable villains, including the Kraven the Hunter, Hobgoblin, Puppet Master, Cobra, and Diamondback, but failed each time for one reason or another. (Of course, [[WordOfGod Mark Gruenwald claimed]] that the whole reason Scourge was designed, originally, was to dispose of villains deemed to be too minor, redundant, or ill-conceived, and he's regretted this since then.)


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* A good [[HeWhoMustNotBeSeen unseen character]] example is Captain Carnage from ''Comicbook/{{Watchmen}}''. His ineffectual nature was on purpose: he was a masochist who enjoyed being on the receiving end of fists... until he tried it on [[SociopathicHero Rorschach]], who dropped him down an empty elevator shaft.
9th Dec '16 9:07:59 AM DracoKanji
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* Asbestos Lady. This gal was a thief who thought it was a good idea to fight the Human Torch (not Johnny Storm, [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks the original one]]) with an asbestos costume. Know how she eventually died? From cancer. [[DidntThinkThisThrough Go figure.]]

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* Asbestos Lady. This gal was a thief who thought it was a good idea to fight the Human Torch (not Johnny Storm, [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks the original one]]) with an asbestos costume. Know how she eventually died? From cancer. [[DidntThinkThisThrough Go figure.]]
]] She was later reworked into Asbestos Man in the 1960's, who was a villain of the Johnny Storm Human Torch. He ''also'' died of cancer.
26th Nov '16 9:49:49 AM Stealth
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* [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Runabout and Runamuck]], AKA the Battlechargers of the various comics bearing ''Franchise/TheTransformers'' name, often try their hand at malicious and evil things, but are regularly stymied by their [[ChaoticStupid breathtaking incompetence]], [[PsychopathicManchild complete lack of maturity]], and [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny attention spans that don't last thirty seconds]]. Their most infamous act was setting out to spray-paint the Statue of Liberty with "Humans are wimps!" instead of, you know, actually doing some real MonumentalDamage.

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* [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Runabout and Runamuck]], AKA the Battlechargers of the various comics bearing ''Franchise/TheTransformers'' name, often try their hand at malicious and evil things, but are regularly stymied by their [[ChaoticStupid breathtaking incompetence]], [[PsychopathicManchild complete lack of maturity]], and [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny attention spans that don't last thirty seconds]]. Their most infamous act was setting out to spray-paint the Statue of Liberty with "Humans are wimps!" instead of, you know, actually doing some real MonumentalDamage. Just to give you an idea how ''bad'' these two are at being evil, lovable loser Scavenger of the Constructicons has been shown killing more Autobots than the Battlechargers.
24th Nov '16 12:05:10 AM Stealth
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* [[ThoseTwoBadGuys Runabout and Runamuck]], AKA the Battlechargers of the various comics bearing ''Franchise/TheTransformers'' name, often try their hand at malicious and evil things, but are regularly stymied by their [[ChaoticStupid breathtaking incompetence]], [[PsychopathicManchild complete lack of maturity]], and [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny attention spans that don't last thirty seconds]]. Their most infamous act was setting out to spray-paint the Statue of Liberty with "Humans are wimps!" instead of, you know, actually doing some real MonumentalDamage.
23rd Nov '16 1:46:41 PM Shadowgazer
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** Especially as the reputation of the invincible Gauls spreads and they start running from any hint of conflict. Most of the generals of the fortified camps surrounding the village are this combined with PunchclockVillain and tend to act out of fear for what the higher-ups would do if they were not seen to be acting, and the foot soldiers tend to be put-upon {{Mauve Shirt}}s who [[JoinTheArmyTheySaid would rather be doing anything else]].
28th Oct '16 1:49:43 PM nombretomado
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* Asbestos Lady. This gal was a thief who thought it was a good idea to fight the Human Torch (not Johnny Storm, [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks the original one]]) with an asbestos costume. Know how she eventually died? From cancer. [[DidntThinkThisThrough Go figure.]]

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* Asbestos Lady. This gal was a thief who thought it was a good idea to fight the Human Torch (not Johnny Storm, [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks the original one]]) with an asbestos costume. Know how she eventually died? From cancer. [[DidntThinkThisThrough Go figure.]]
27th Oct '16 7:29:22 PM LadyJaneGrey
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* Asbestos Lady. This gal was a thief who thought it was a good idea to fight the Human Torch (not Johnny Storm, [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks the original one) with an asbestos costume. Know how she eventually died? From cancer. [[DidntThinkThisThrough Go figure.]]

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* Asbestos Lady. This gal was a thief who thought it was a good idea to fight the Human Torch (not Johnny Storm, [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks the original one) one]]) with an asbestos costume. Know how she eventually died? From cancer. [[DidntThinkThisThrough Go figure.]]
12th Oct '16 6:11:46 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* Asbestos Lady. This gal was a thief who thought it was a good idea to fight the Human Torch (not Johnny Storm, [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks the original one) with an asbestos costume. Know how she eventually died? From cancer. [[DidntThinkThisThrough Go figure.]]
4th May '16 7:16:25 AM Lionheart0
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** While the "regular" Shocker has his moments of competence and NotSoHarmlessVillain, his UltimateMarvel counterpart consistently fits this trope.
*** It actually got to the point where the mere sight of Spider-Man (who never dignifies him enough to call him "Shocker") was enough to send him running in terror.

to:

** While the "regular" Shocker has his moments of competence and NotSoHarmlessVillain, his UltimateMarvel counterpart consistently fits this trope.
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trope. Even in the [[VideoGame/UltimateSpiderMan video game adaptation]] he ends up being the WarmupBoss. It actually got to the point where the mere sight of Spider-Man (who never dignifies him enough to call him "Shocker") was enough to send him running in terror.
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