History IdiotPlot / VideoGames

28th Jun '16 8:31:00 AM mario0987
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** ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'':
*** There is a case where the protagonist must figure out how a magic trick is performed, not because it has any relevance to the case but simply because ''the judge wants to know''. Despite the fact that everyone else in the courtroom has figured it out, including your client and your assistant, no-one will help because "[[SeriousBusiness you can't tell a magician's trick]]". One of the witnesses, at least, had the excuse that she was under contract to keep the trick a secret, along with hiding the fact that [[spoiler:she was blind.]] One would think that her employers would make an exception for her standing witness for a ''murder trial'', but apparently not.
*** The case of the prosecution rests on the idea that a frail, fourteen-year-old pianist with no firearms training could fire a 45-caliber pistol without injury, ''despite'' the fact that it is constantly stated that the recoil would be enough to dislocate the arm of a grown man of average build. (This is given a minor HandWave early on; the ''only'' reason such a flimsy case is going on trial is because the Borginian Embassy is pressing for a swift resolution to the case--an in-universe case of ExecutiveMeddling. Likely someone in the Borginian government knew about [[spoiler:the cocoon smuggling going on, and that the murder victim, Romein [=LeTouse=], was investigating it]].) The player also doesn't get to question how his client was supposed to move the body of a much larger man all the way from the dressing room to the stage.

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** ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'':
The defendant of Case 2-1 is implicated because the victim apparently wrote her name in the sand. The problem is that a) her name is spelled wrong, despite the fact the two were lovers (this is the contradiction you point out) and no one investigating notices this despite the fact that the two were both police officers and their relationship was well known around the station and b) the victim died from a broken neck sustained in a fall so should not have been able to write the name in the first place.
** ''VisualNovel/ApolloJusticeAceAttorney'' Case 3:
*** There is a case where the The protagonist must figure out how a magic trick is performed, not because it has any relevance to the case but simply because ''the judge wants to know''. Despite the fact that everyone else in the courtroom has figured it out, including your client and your assistant, no-one will help because "[[SeriousBusiness you can't tell a magician's trick]]". One of the witnesses, at least, had the excuse that she was under contract to keep the trick a secret, along with hiding the fact that [[spoiler:she was blind.]] One would think that her employers would make an exception for her standing witness for a ''murder trial'', but apparently not.
*** The eyewitness who saw the crime would have saved everyone a lot of trouble if she had explained that [[spoiler: she heard the crime take place earlier than everyone thought it was committed and at a time when the defendant had an ironclad alibi.]]
*** The case of the prosecution rests on the idea that a frail, fourteen-year-old pianist with no firearms training could fire a 45-caliber pistol without injury, ''despite'' the fact that it is constantly stated that the recoil would be enough to dislocate the arm of a grown man of average build. Even worse, this fact comes up as a plot point latter to uncover the real killer. (This is given a minor HandWave early on; the ''only'' reason such a flimsy case is going on trial is because the Borginian Embassy is pressing for a swift resolution to the case--an in-universe case of ExecutiveMeddling. Likely someone in the Borginian government knew about [[spoiler:the cocoon smuggling going on, and that the murder victim, Romein [=LeTouse=], was investigating it]].) The player also doesn't get to question how his client was supposed to move the body of a much larger man all the way from the dressing room to the stage.
22nd Jun '16 7:09:08 PM MsDevin92
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** Also, just about everyone believes that the main character is [[SerialKiller the Origami Killer]] (even the main character himself, by way of suspecting a split personality)...despite the fact that he was previously in a several-months-long coma, during which most of the murders occurred. His ex-wife and therapist, two of the people who should immediately be able to point this out, are even the ones who tell the police they think he's suspicious!

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** Also, just about everyone believes that the main character is [[SerialKiller the Origami Killer]] (even the main character himself, by way of suspecting a split personality)...despite the fact that he was previously in a several-months-long coma, during which coma when most of the murders occurred. His ex-wife and therapist, two of the people who should immediately be able to point this out, are even the ones who tell the police they think he's suspicious!
22nd Jun '16 7:07:19 PM MsDevin92
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** Also, just about everyone believes that the main character is [[SerialKiller the Origami Killer]] (even the main character himself, by way of suspecting a split personality)...despite the fact that he was previously in a several-months-long coma, during which most of the murders occurred. His ex-wife and therapist, two of the people who should immediately be able to point this out, are even the ones who tell the police they think he's suspicious!
6th Jun '16 3:47:43 AM ZorotheGallade
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*** Eventually, Vanille comes to the conclusion that since the BigBad's plan involves someone in their group, [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight the best thing to do is to do nothing at all]]. Even after generally agreeing with her, they still charge on like nothing.

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*** Eventually, Vanille comes to the conclusion that since the BigBad's plan involves someone in their group, [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight the best thing to do is to do nothing at all]]. Even after generally agreeing with her, they still charge on like nothing. Despite Cid telling them the exact same thing literally seconds later.
6th Jun '16 3:43:21 AM ZorotheGallade
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*** Eventually, Vanille comes to the conclusion that since the BigBad's plan involves someone in their group, [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight the best thing to do is to do nothing at all]]. Even after generally agreeing with her, they still charge on like nothing.
19th May '16 4:23:09 PM thatsnumberwang
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** Leon and Claire splitting up after they meet up in the police station in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil2'' produces one of these as there is no realistic in-game reason for it that doesn't double as a VoodooShark. Their lives are made significantly harder by this decision, not just in a survival sense, but also in an economical sense; one good example being the fact that Leon and Claire end up on two separate quests to find two separate exits into the exact same sewer.

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** * Leon and Claire splitting up after they meet up in the police station in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil2'' produces one of these as there is no realistic in-game reason for it that doesn't double as a VoodooShark. Their lives are made significantly harder by this decision, not just in a survival sense, but also in an economical sense; one good example being the fact that Leon and Claire end up on two separate quests to find two separate exits into the exact same sewer.
19th May '16 4:20:22 PM thatsnumberwang
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** Leon and Claire splitting up after they meet up in the police station in ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil2'' produces one of these as there is no realistic in-game reason for it that doesn't double as a VoodooShark. Their lives are made significantly harder by this decision, not just in a survival sense, but also in an economical sense; one good example being the fact that Leon and Claire end up on two separate quests to find two separate exits into the exact same sewer.
16th May '16 9:34:37 AM Miracle@StOlaf
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** And yet despite Steve's idiocy, Claire still goes home with the gold. This all kicked off because she got caught while trying to find her brother Chris. At one point, she discovers that Umbrella is keeping tabs on him, and she contacts Leon with the request to warn her brother about it. She didn't know where to find Chris, but she had an ally who could get in touch with him the whole time, and to make it worse, ''she already knew that.''
21st Apr '16 8:03:03 AM KingZeal
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*** The plot of ''X4'', where the Repliforce is implicated in the destruction of a space colony and the Maverick Hunters ask their Colonel to disarm and come to their HQ for questioning, wherein the Colonel [[HonorBeforeReason promptly refuses due to a fault in his programming. But, even if he refused to surrender, the proper authorities could have gone to the Repliforce with warrants and whatnot to investigate and get testimony. [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Because he was a Reploid,]] [[KillEmAll the humans decided to just label the Repliforce as Mavericks and put the Hunters on their tail.]] The Reploids are fully sapient and capable of feelings like humans, but humans make them to serve as convenient super powered workers without giving them a choice in the matter to begin with. Then they get surprised when the ones that aren't infected by the Sigma Virus turn on them anyways.

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*** The plot of ''X4'', where the Repliforce is implicated in the destruction of a space colony and the Maverick Hunters ask their Colonel to disarm and come to their HQ for questioning, wherein the Colonel [[HonorBeforeReason promptly refuses due to a fault in his programming. ]] But, even if he refused to surrender, the proper authorities could have gone to the Repliforce with warrants and whatnot to investigate and get testimony. [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Because he was a Reploid,]] [[KillEmAll the humans decided to just label the Repliforce as Mavericks and put the Hunters on their tail.]] The Reploids are fully sapient and capable of feelings like humans, but humans make them to serve as convenient super powered workers without giving them a choice in the matter to begin with. Then they get surprised when the ones that aren't infected by the Sigma Virus turn on them anyways.
21st Apr '16 8:02:12 AM KingZeal
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*** The plot of ''X4'', where the Repliforce is implicated in the destruction of a space colony and the Maverick Hunters ask their Colonel to disarm and come to their HQ for questioning, wherein the Colonel [[HonorBeforeReason promptly refuses to surrender and throws the Repliforce into an entirely pointless war and gets them all slaughtered because turning his laser sword off would be dishonorable]], at first glance, SEEMS to be an idiot plot. [[AllThereInTheManual Supplementary materials]] reveal that Colonel was part of a project to create a combat reploid capable of peace, but the Warrior and Pacifist sides of the programming repelled one another and instead made two reploids, the Colonel and his sister Iris. One of the flaws in the warrior programming becomes apparent in Colonel's refusal to surrender, [[ManipulativeBastard which was exploited by the true villain of the incident in order to force the Maverick Hunters and Repliforce to fight one another while he worked on his schemes in secret.]] And even if the Colonel refused to turn himself in for questioning, if he had been human, the proper authorities could have gone to the Repliforce with warrants and whatnot and force him to testify. [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Because he was a Reploid,]] [[KillEmAll the humans decided to just label the Repliforce as Mavericks and put the Hunters on their tail.]]
** The Reploids are fully sapient and capable of feelings like humans. The humans only make them to serve as convenient super powered workers without giving them a choice in the matter to begin with. Then they get surprised when the ones that aren't infected by the Sigma Virus turn on them anyways.

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*** The plot of ''X4'', where the Repliforce is implicated in the destruction of a space colony and the Maverick Hunters ask their Colonel to disarm and come to their HQ for questioning, wherein the Colonel [[HonorBeforeReason promptly refuses due to surrender and throws the Repliforce into an entirely pointless war and gets them all slaughtered because turning a fault in his laser sword off would be dishonorable]], at first glance, SEEMS to be an idiot plot. [[AllThereInTheManual Supplementary materials]] reveal that Colonel was part of a project to create a combat reploid capable of peace, but the Warrior and Pacifist sides of the programming repelled one another and instead made two reploids, the Colonel and his sister Iris. One of the flaws in the warrior programming becomes apparent in Colonel's refusal programming. But, even if he refused to surrender, [[ManipulativeBastard which was exploited by the true villain of the incident in order to force the Maverick Hunters and Repliforce to fight one another while he worked on his schemes in secret.]] And even if the Colonel refused to turn himself in for questioning, if he had been human, the proper authorities could have gone to the Repliforce with warrants and whatnot to investigate and force him to testify.get testimony. [[WhatMeasureIsANonHuman Because he was a Reploid,]] [[KillEmAll the humans decided to just label the Repliforce as Mavericks and put the Hunters on their tail.]]
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]] The Reploids are fully sapient and capable of feelings like humans. The humans, but humans only make them to serve as convenient super powered workers without giving them a choice in the matter to begin with. Then they get surprised when the ones that aren't infected by the Sigma Virus turn on them anyways.
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