History IdiotPlot / LiveActionFilm

22nd May '17 3:32:04 PM Tuckerscreator
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** Actually, ''this'' video explains just about all of that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpEx7pdp2-Q
4th May '17 9:18:00 AM Medinoc
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* ''Everything'' about ''Film/{{Prometheus}}''. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1YuvUQFJ0 This short video sums it all up]]. Arguably it was because the writers were trying to evoke ''Film/{{Alien}}''. In ''Alien'', though, the characters were {{Space Trucker}}s who were understandably out of their depth dealing with an alien killing machine, so their less-than-intelligent responses made sense. Here, however, the characters are supposed to be scientists and other highly trained professionals, yet still act like Space Truckers (to give some idea, it became one of the regular gags used by the guys at WebVideo/CinemaSins: "the Prometheus School of Running Away From Things").

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* ''Everything'' about ''Film/{{Prometheus}}''. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x1YuvUQFJ0 This short video sums it all up]]. Arguably it was because the writers were trying to evoke ''Film/{{Alien}}''. In ''Alien'', though, the characters were {{Space Trucker}}s who were understandably out of their depth dealing with an alien killing machine, so their less-than-intelligent responses made sense. Here, however, the characters are supposed to be scientists and other highly trained professionals, yet still act like Space Truckers (to give some idea, it became one of the regular gags used by the guys at WebVideo/CinemaSins: "the "[[OneDimensionalThinking the Prometheus School of Running Away From Things").Things]]").
29th Apr '17 2:12:12 PM mlsmithca
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* ''IdiotPlot/FantasticFour2015''


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* ''Film/FantasticFour2015'':
** Reed and Ben have been working on a teleportation device since they were children and apparently performed a successful test with it when they were only about 11 or so. Instead of telling anybody about their groundbreaking achievement, they sit on it for several years to work on it some more. This may be understandable, but then what do they do with it once they feel that they've fine tuned it enough? They enter it into a ''high school science fair''.
** When they demonstrate the ''functioning teleportation device'' at the '''high school science fair''', the judges actually disqualify them on the grounds that the ''working teleportation device'' that they created in their garage was only science fiction and "magic", and not real science. They're only saved from having wasted their time by Dr. Storm, an actual high-ranking government scientist, being at the fair for no explained reason and picking up their device as the key to a problem they'd been trying to solve.
** The way the crew get their superpowers really sets a record for sheer stupidity in superhero origin stories:
*** Once the matter transporter was completed and tested, Reed, Johnny and Victor decide, [[AlcoholInducedStupidity while drunk]], to send ''themselves'' to the alternate dimension the machine is connected to literally just so they could have the glory of doing it before the NASA astronauts do.
*** They then also call Ben, a completely untrained civilian, and tell him about this plan, and he is happy to go along with them.
*** They don't even think to call Susan, who is a trained scientist like them, to join them even as mission control, just in case things go wrong, which ''does'' happen, and in a ''big'' way.
*** Once they get to the alternate dimension, they walk around like idiots touching glowing green, radioactive-looking things, which inevitably blows up in their faces and mutate them, and also seemingly gets Victor killed.
** After Reed escapes military custody, the entire US government, with all its own page]].resources at its disposal, are totally unable to figure out where he might be hiding. Susan finds his location by simply using the places he was spotted in to narrow down a search area, which is about the most basic tracking technique in the book.
** When Victor suddenly returns through the machine a long time later as Doom, he wakes up and goes on a killing spree to try to get back to the alternate dimension. Everyone tries to stop him from doing this even after it's made clear he's gone insane from being stuck in the other dimension without any company and is now a nigh-unstoppable killing machine, and there being no clear downside to just allowing him to just seal himself back off in the other dimension.
29th Apr '17 2:01:29 PM mlsmithca
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* ''IdiotPlot/SuicideSquad2016''


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* ''Film/SuicideSquad2016'' only happens because nearly every character in it has no clue what they're doing. This is somewhat justified for the criminals on the squad, but for the Enchantress, Flagg, and especially Waller, it's pretty glaring:
** The Enchantress is only freed because June Moon, a trained archaeologist, somehow forgets that it's not a good idea to listen to the creepy whispering voice echoing around the cave, and the very first thing she does upon finding the Enchantress' tomb is break open the bottle containing her spirit instead of getting her bearings (though it's possible that the whispering was actually hypnotising June into breaking it.)
** Meanwhile, the only reason that Waller [[spoiler: falsely believes that she]] can control the Enchantress is that Enchantress inexplicably left her heart in the tomb. Why her heart was cut out in the first place is never explained, nor is there any reason why she wouldn't simply carry it with her.
** Waller actively wanted Rick Flag and Dr. Moone to get involved, even though he's her handler and thus the person who will have to put her down if she slips her leash. Anyone with half a brain would realize that's a task you want to give to someone objective. This, of course, comes to bite her in the ass since he doesn't report when [[spoiler:Enchantress goes missing]].
** Waller's dossier on the [[spoiler: Enchantress includes an image (and presumably hints to the whereabouts of) Enchantress' brother. Considering how little control she has over Enchantress, even if she doesn't think that information is important there's no reason to include it]].
** None of the people Waller is presenting to finds it the least bit unnerving that Enchantress, Waller's proof of how capable her team would be, is barely controlled, and that her human host says that she can't do that again directly in front of them.
** When [[spoiler: Enchantress goes to free her brother, Flag doesn't report it. Forgivable since he's in love with her, but... yeah. Less forgivable is the fact that other than Flag watching her, there is zero surveillance on Moon/Enchantress. And Moon doesn't let anyone know that Enchantress took her over, especially since it seems harrowing for her]].
** By the way, that attempt [[GambitRoulette only worked because Waller was asleep and didn't notice her phone ringing]], and because Waller had virtually no security measures protecting the brother's heart.
** When Enchantress makes her [[spoiler: duplicity clear, Waller decides to stab the heart. Yay... except she just stabs it repeatedly with a tiny instrument, giving Enchantress enough time to, in this case, survive getting her heart stabbed. Even if Waller didn't plan for that possibility, given her incredible power, her being off her leash for even a few seconds could cause catastrophic damage. You would think she would have a means of instantly terminating her. You know, like she does for ''everyone else in the Suicide Squad''.]]. That seems more like a character flaw than a problem with the film itself.
** Did nobody seriously see Griggs give Harley a phone and ''loudly'' proclaim that it's from the Joker ''right in front of them''? Seriously, if anyone pointed that out, then the Joker's interference in the plot would have been minimal at best.
** Waller is in [[spoiler: Midway City. The entire mission is to get her out. There is no reason she couldn't be overseeing this from a safe location]].
** After the extraction takes place, [[spoiler: Waller gets into a separate helicopter than the Suicide Squad, which means when the helicopter is shot down she has none of the help she'd personally invested in. This leads to her capture and Enchantress using her brain to attack several secret targets and create tempting illusions for the Squad when they show up.]]
** The helicopter crew for [[spoiler:Waller's extraction from Midway City]] fire off bright chaff despite not facing a conventional foe, and all that does is draw attention, resulting in the helicopter crashing.
** When [[spoiler:Harley attempts to escape, Waller orders Flag to kill her. He tries activating her implant, but the Joker has already disabled that. The possibility of shooting her, since she is only a few feet away, never seems to occur to him.]]
9th Apr '17 8:01:58 PM NightShade96
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* ''IdiotPlot/FantasticFour2015''



* ''IdiotPlot/TransformersAgeOfExtinction''



* ''Film/FantasticFour2015'' has this trope as its lifeblood. Reed and Ben have been working on a teleportation device since they were children and apparently performed a successful test with it when they were only about 11 or so. Instead of telling anybody about their groundbreaking achievement, they sit on it for several years to work on it some more. Maybe understandable, but then what do they do with it once they feel they've fine tuned it enough? They enter it into a ''high school science fair''. When they demonstrate the ''functioning teleportation device'' at the '''high school science fair''', the judges actually disqualify them on the grounds that the ''working teleportation device'' they created in their garage was only science fiction and not real science. They're only saved from having wasted their time by Dr. Storm, an actual high-ranking government scientist, being at the fair for no explained reason and picking up their device as the key to a problem they'd been trying to solve.\\
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The way the crew get their superpowers really sets a record for sheer stupidity in superhero origin stories. Once the matter transporter was completed and tested, Reed, Johnny, and Victor decide, [[AlcoholInducedStupidity while drunk]], to send ''themselves'' to the alternate dimension the machine is connected to literally just so they could have the glory of doing it before the NASA astronauts do. They then also call Ben, a completely untrained civilian, and tell him about this plan, and he is happy to go along with them. Once they get to the alternate dimension, they walk around like idiots touching glowing green, radioactive-looking things, which inevitably blows up in their face and mutate them and seemingly gets Victor killed.\\
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After Reed escapes military custody, the entire US government, with all its resources at its disposal, are totally unable to figure out where he might be hiding. Susan finds his location by simply using the places he was spotted in to narrow down a search area, about the most basic tracking technique in the book.\\
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When Victor suddenly returns through the machine a long time later as Doom, he wakes up and goes on a killing spree to try to get back to the alternate dimension. Everyone tries to stop him from doing this even after it's made clear he's gone insane and is now a nigh-unstoppable killing machine and there being no clear downside to just allowing him to just seal himself back off in the other dimension.



* Just, the whole damn movie ''Film/TransformersAgeOfExtinction''. Let's recap ''[[Film/TransformersDarkOfTheMoon Dark of the Moon]]''. Humans decide that they don't need or want the Autobots anymore. Decepticons offer a peace treaty to humans if they exile the Autobots. The Autobots let the humans think they have agreed to be exiled. Decepticons immediately go back on their word, attempt to enslave humanity, only to be stopped by the Autobots and several military teams who personally witness the Autobots' heroism.
** In T4, the premise of the movie starts with, humans deciding that they don't need or want the Autobots anymore. Why are we here again? It's already been established in the past movie that a) all alien robots aren't alike, b) the Autobots have good intentions toward humans, and c) other humans are willing to vouch for this. Why are we at the point where humans are going around killing various Autobots under the excuse that "they're all like that"? The attitude seems to be that humans despise Autobots for the massacre of Chicago, with one person in the movie out and out saying that this was his motivation. Didn't a dozen or so highly trained military soldiers witness the Autobots saving the world? When Congress passed this law making it legal to declare a pogrom against Autobots, did not one of these people object to it on any level whatsoever?
** In order to execute this war on Autobots, one of the main antagonists decides to ally with...an angry, evil looking robot who has thinly veiled contempt for humans, but promises to give the antagonist what he wants and leave the rest of them alone. This doesn't work on 2 levels: 1) Once again, didn't we learn from Transformers 3 that the Autobots are good, and angry robots who talk about killing Autobots while openly hating humanity aren't to be trusted, regardless of what they say about leaving humans alone once they have what they want? 2) The motivation of the bounty hunter robot is to "clean up the Autobot and Decpticon" mess. Why would said bounty hunter, in return for being assisted in capturing and killing the robots who are disobeying their ''master's'' orders, give humans the materials needed to make thousands more of these robots, especially when said humans demonstrate that they now CAN make more of these robots, even better than the originals?
** Speaking of the controversy over "masters" and "creators", where did this concept come from? The whole concept of T1 was that it was the Allspark that created robot life, not any creators. Even if it was assumed that the Allspark was just a tool for SufficientlyAdvancedAliens to create the Transformers, there's a line used by the bounty hunter, to Prime, that basically goes something like this: "of course you have creators. Do you think you were born? No, you were built." How would Prime not know if he was born or built? How would he not know how robot reproduction works? Does Prime not have a mother, father, relatives, that sort of thing? Even if it didn't work like that, wouldn't he have witnessed robots being created by the Allspark? There's this big reveal over the Autobots and Decpticons having been made, which doesn't work either way you look at it - if the robots were created, then no one would know better than them that they are unable to reproduce without their creators. If the robots were made by the Allspark/otherwise born, the statement is just a flat out lie.
** Apparently, in T4, civil liberties have gone so far down the toilet, that various government thugs can kick in the door, and shove guns into people's faces, and even kill them, in the name of finding good robots who explicitly don't kill people, and are known to defend people. Jack Bauer isn't this fixated on torture.
** At the end, it's shown that Optimus Prime is capable of interstellar flight without a spaceship. Indeed, so are the other Autobots - we know this from the previous movies. So, why are they staying on a planet waiting to be hunted down by various humans? Given the human level of technology, the Autobots could have avoided the whole mess by simply camping out on Mars.
3rd Apr '17 5:15:07 AM Thecommander236
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-->3. Sgt. Apone, however, asks very few questions, which is 'not' necessarily in character, as he's otherwise shown as competent. Sergeants are supposed to advise their Lieutenants., especially when they are new. You'd think he'd try to get a private conversation in, if nothing else.

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-->3. Sgt. Apone, however, asks very few questions, which is 'not' necessarily in character, as he's otherwise shown as competent. Sergeants are supposed to advise their Lieutenants., Lieutenants, especially when they are new. You'd think he'd try to get a private conversation in, if nothing else.
31st Mar '17 5:44:18 AM Yukianesa
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** Though it could be somewhat justified if you go with the idea that he wanted to meet her in person to prove himself to her. If you want to apologise to somebody, simply setting up a new email account to get around the block doesn't quite have the same impact as travelling across the world to meet them in person.
28th Mar '17 5:05:55 PM StarformDCX
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** It's worth noting that the film portrays all of these horrendously bad decisions as horrendously bad decisions.
21st Mar '17 9:48:58 PM PhilsLover
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* ''Palmetto''. The protagonist, just released from prison, meets and falls in love with a FemmeFatale, which gets him in a very serious trouble... except for the fact that he has a girlfriend - not only a beautiful one (she's played by GinaGershon in her early 30s), but a very faithful as well (she patiently waits for him to be released). The screenplay does not even try to explain why the guy would fall in love on the spot with someone else.
21st Mar '17 9:46:41 PM PhilsLover
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* ''Film/TheMist'': All right, so the mist is a problem with or without the idiots in the supermarket, but most of the danger in the film comes from Mrs. Carmody. Several characters note that her fire-and-brimstone preaching is moving from "annoying" to "dangerous" as she acquires a flock of bloodthirsty followers, but at no point does anyone suggest just duct-taping her mouth shut, tying her up and tossing her in the loading dock, letting cooler heads prevail.
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