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18th Jul '17 8:17:05 PM Loekman3
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'' (2013).

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'' (2013).''Disney/{{Frozen}}''.
13th Jul '17 1:54:52 PM Anicomicgeek
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* Things for ComicBook/AmandaWaller in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'' would've been a lot easier if [[spoiler:she'd merely bribed a guard to kill the Riddler instead of sending the ComicBook/SuicideSquad in. It would've be easier, less messy, and given her reason for doing so was to keep how to defuse the nanobombs she uses to keep the Squad in line a secret, they wouldn't have learned if she didn't send them in. Addtionally, given the Riddler isn't the only CriminalMastermind, she also could've tried coming up with another countermeasure. Alas, she sent the Squad in, people got killed, the Riddler blabbed about his knowledge, most of the Squad had their bombs defused by him, the Joker escaped and started a riot, and the Riddler (the very person Waller wanted dead in the first place) escaped during the riot.]]

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* Things for ComicBook/AmandaWaller in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'' would've been a lot easier if [[spoiler:she'd merely bribed a guard to kill the Riddler instead of sending the ComicBook/SuicideSquad in. It would've be easier, less messy, and given her reason for doing so was to keep how to defuse the nanobombs she uses to keep the Squad in line a secret, they wouldn't have learned if she didn't send them in. Addtionally, given the Riddler isn't the only CriminalMastermind, criminal mastermind, she also could've tried coming up with another countermeasure. Alas, she sent the Squad in, people got killed, the Riddler blabbed about his knowledge, most of the Squad had their bombs defused by him, the Joker escaped and started a riot, and the Riddler (the very person Waller wanted dead in the first place) escaped during the riot.]]
13th Jul '17 1:53:39 PM Anicomicgeek
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* Things for ComicBook/AmandaWaller in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'' would've been a lot easier if [[spoiler:she'd merely bribed a guard to kill the Riddler instead of sending the ComicBook/SuicideSquad in. It would've be easier, less messy, and given her reason for doing so was to keep how to defuse the nanobombs she uses to keep the Squad in line a secret, they wouldn't have learned if she didn't send them in. Addtionally, given the Riddler isn't the only CriminalMastermind, she also could've tried coming up with another countermeasure. Alas, she sent the Squad in, people got killed, the Riddler blabbed about his knowledge, most of the Squad had their bombs defused by him, the Joker escaped and started a riot, and the Riddler (the very person Waller wanted dead in the first place) escaped during the riot.]]
12th Jul '17 10:17:01 PM NightShade96
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** Anna's relationship with Hans is an intentional and [[LampshadeHangin Lampshaded]] one. First she impusively tries to marry him when they barely knew each other and then and leaves Hans in charge of the entire castle. [[spoiler:This allows Hans to manipulate her and almost win.]] Both Elsa and Kristoff find this to be incredibly bizarre.

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** Anna's relationship with Hans is an intentional and [[LampshadeHangin Lampshaded]] [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] one. First she impusively tries to marry him when they barely knew each other and then and leaves Hans in charge of the entire castle. [[spoiler:This allows Hans to manipulate her and almost win.]] Both Elsa and Kristoff find this to be incredibly bizarre.



* ''WesternAnimation/NormOfTheNorth'' would have been non-existent if the developer didn't try to sell homes in the arctic. Or if Norm, after hearing how the ad campaign is dead unless they find someone who looks just like him, goes with them to stop him! Why is never explained, except with a fight-them-when-their-guard-is-down logic. Somehow NO ONE actually does anything, with Mr Greene being the one with the idiotic schemes, and almost everyone is useless. Early in the movie Mr Greene runs around NYC with a rifle TO SHOOT NORM IN A CROWDED RESTAURANT! Not only should he not have done that, but everyone likes him for it, and it raises his approval ratings. That should've happened at the end where they tricked him, getting him fired. Why did they make him do that? Why would you like someone you didn't like before when they'd gone postal? Why buy a house in the Arctic? Everything is stupid. Why are the gerbil lemmings the only ones who aren't complete idiots? They can't even speak.

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* ''WesternAnimation/NormOfTheNorth'' would have been non-existent if the developer didn't try to sell homes in the arctic. Or if Norm, after hearing how the ad campaign is dead unless they find someone who looks just like him, goes with them to stop him! Why is never explained, except with a fight-them-when-their-guard-is-down logic. Somehow NO ONE actually does anything, with Mr Greene being the one with the idiotic schemes, and almost everyone is useless. Early in the movie Mr Greene runs around NYC with a rifle TO SHOOT NORM IN A CROWDED RESTAURANT! Not only should he not have done that, but everyone likes him for it, and it somehow raises his approval ratings. That should've happened at the end where they tricked him, getting him fired. Why did they make him do that? Why would you like someone you didn't like before when they'd gone postal? Why buy a house in the Arctic? Everything is stupid. Why are the gerbil lemmings the only ones who aren't complete idiots? They can't even speak.
26th Jun '17 4:46:56 PM SatoshiBakura
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'' (2013). The so-called "Love Experts" are anything but. First, their solution to Elsa's magic problem is to ''remove Anna's memory'' of it! While the troll in question does promise to "leave the fun", he does remove memories of her having fun with Elsa. Later in the movie, the trolls try to marry off Kristoff and Anna, despite one of the morals of the movie being that you shouldn't marry too impulsively. Finally, when the elder troll comes up with the idea of the act of true love, it's another troll who suggests the whole kiss thing. Care to interject here, Grandpa? Surely "love experts" should have a better understanding that it could be ''any'' act of true love. Thankfully it was a beneficial mistake as had they known better, Anna would not have had the opportunity to save her sister.
** But the trolls aren't the only ones. What about the king and queen's treatment of poor Elsa? Their solution to her problems with magic is to ''imprison her for pretty much her entire childhood!'' Since we never have any evidence that they are evil, we can only conclude it is stupidity, or very, ''very'' bad parenting. (Remember, prior to this point in the movie, all the evidence shows Elsa had full control of her magic. Anna was injured only because of a badly aimed spell, not because poor self control, which was really Anna's fault for going a bit hyper with the snow-mound jumping game. Elsa's self-control problems only appeared when she was being repressed. And they went away when she was free, and also after the connection with her sister was reestablished.)
** Finally, and this is most likely an intended one, but Anna is leaving to find Elsa, and leaves Hans in charge of the entire castle! Yes, the guy she only just met, and sung a song with. Not, perhaps, whoever was looking after the kingdom up until ''just yesterday'', i.e. before Elsa was crowned queen.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'' (2013).
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The so-called "Love Experts" are anything but. First, their solution to Elsa's magic problem is to ''remove remove Anna's memory'' memory of it! While the troll in question does promise it. They then proceed to "leave the fun", he does remove memories of her having fun frighten Elsa with Elsa.their warning of fear, but not clarifying what they meant, leading to her parents shutting her in the castle to protect her and to allow her to control her powers, ironically causing her control on her powers. Later in the movie, the trolls try to marry off Kristoff and Anna, despite one of the morals of the movie being that you shouldn't marry too impulsively. Finally, when the elder troll comes up with the idea of the act of true love, it's another troll who suggests the whole kiss thing. Care to interject here, Grandpa? Surely "love experts" should have a better understanding that it could be ''any'' act of true love. Thankfully [[spoiler:Thankfully it was a beneficial mistake as had they known better, Anna would not have had the opportunity to save her sister.
sister.]]
** But the trolls aren't the only ones. What about the king and queen's treatment of poor Elsa? Their solution to her problems with magic is to ''imprison her for pretty much her entire childhood!'' Since we never have any evidence that they are evil, we can only conclude it is stupidity, or very, ''very'' bad parenting. (Remember, prior to this point in the movie, all the evidence shows Elsa had full control of her magic. Anna was injured only because of a badly aimed spell, not because poor self control, which was really Anna's fault for going a bit hyper relationship with the snow-mound jumping game. Elsa's self-control problems only appeared Hans is an intentional and [[LampshadeHangin Lampshaded]] one. First she impusively tries to marry him when she was being repressed. And they went away when she was free, barely knew each other and also after the connection with her sister was reestablished.)
** Finally, and this is most likely an intended one, but Anna is leaving to find Elsa,
then and leaves Hans in charge of the entire castle! Yes, the guy she only just met, castle. [[spoiler:This allows Hans to manipulate her and sung a song with. Not, perhaps, whoever was looking after the kingdom up until ''just yesterday'', i.e. before almost win.]] Both Elsa was crowned queen. and Kristoff find this to be incredibly bizarre.



* ''Disney/MeetTheRobinsons''. The whole plot could have been easily avoided in the first place if Wilbur took a second to listen to his mother and check that he locked the garage door behind him. Or if Cornelius Robinson was [[DangerousDeviceDisposalDebacle the tiniest bit more careful about how he handled his rejected inventions]]. Or if Goob raised the issue of Lewis keeping him up at night either to his roommate or even his caregiver in the first ten minutes of the movie instead of ignoring it until it became a serious issue that resulted in bruising. This movie seems to take the IdiotPlot to nearly self-conscious levels given its primary RunningGag consists of both the villain and ''the hero'' making poor decisions that backfired and then subsequently told off by their allies [[DidntThinkThisThrough that their poor decision not only didn't work but got them in even more trouble]]. In the end the movie is resolved by having Lewis claim [[RetGone the whole movie never happened]]. While a neat way to clean up everything, this also results in a severe BrokenAesop where no one had to take responsibility for or learn from their idiotic actions in a movie where the message is supposed to be "Learn from your mistakes".
** Interestingly, the movie even parodies itself in this regard in an alternate ending. In this ending, Lewis takes Goob along with him in the time machine to the day when Goob fell asleep during his game. Goob shouts at his past self to wake up and his past self does so, then proceeds to catch the ball and win the game. Future Goob then contemplates how this was all he would've had to do all along and all his other plans were unnecessary.

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* ''Disney/MeetTheRobinsons''. The whole plot could have been easily avoided in the first place if Wilbur took a second to listen to his mother and check that he locked the garage door behind him. Or if Cornelius Robinson was [[DangerousDeviceDisposalDebacle the tiniest bit more careful about how he handled his rejected inventions]]. Or if Goob raised the issue of Lewis keeping him up at night either to his roommate or even his caregiver in the first ten minutes of the movie instead of ignoring it until it became a serious issue that resulted in bruising. This movie seems to take the IdiotPlot to nearly self-conscious levels given its primary RunningGag consists of both the villain and ''the hero'' making poor decisions that backfired and then subsequently told off by their allies [[DidntThinkThisThrough that their poor decision not only didn't work but got them in even more trouble]]. In the end the movie is resolved by having Lewis claim [[RetGone the whole movie never happened]]. While a neat way to clean up everything, this also results in a severe BrokenAesop where no one had to take responsibility for or learn from their idiotic actions in a movie where the message is supposed to be "Learn from your mistakes".
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mistakes". Interestingly, the movie even parodies itself in this regard in an alternate ending. In this ending, Lewis takes Goob along with him in the time machine to the day when Goob fell asleep during his game. Goob shouts at his past self to wake up and his past self does so, then proceeds to catch the ball and win the game. Future Goob then contemplates how this was all he would've had to do all along and all his other plans were unnecessary.
16th May '17 5:44:30 PM komodosp
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** But the trolls aren't the only ones. What about the king and queen's treatment of poor Elsa? Their solution to her problems with magic is to ''imprison her for pretty much her entire childhood!'' Since we never have any evidence that they are evil, we can only conclude it is stupidity, or very, ''very'' bad parenting. (Remember, prior to this point in the movie, all the evidence shows Elsa had full control of her magic. Anna was injured only because of a badly aimed spell, not because poor self control, which was really Anna's fault for going a bit hyper with the snow-mound jumping game. Elsa's self-control problems only appeared when she was being repressed. And they went away when she was free, and also after the connection with her sister was reestablished.

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** But the trolls aren't the only ones. What about the king and queen's treatment of poor Elsa? Their solution to her problems with magic is to ''imprison her for pretty much her entire childhood!'' Since we never have any evidence that they are evil, we can only conclude it is stupidity, or very, ''very'' bad parenting. (Remember, prior to this point in the movie, all the evidence shows Elsa had full control of her magic. Anna was injured only because of a badly aimed spell, not because poor self control, which was really Anna's fault for going a bit hyper with the snow-mound jumping game. Elsa's self-control problems only appeared when she was being repressed. And they went away when she was free, and also after the connection with her sister was reestablished.)
16th May '17 5:42:59 PM komodosp
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'' (2013). The so-called "Love Experts" are anything but. First, their solution to Elsa's magic problem is to ''remove Anna's memory'' of it! Later in the movie, the trolls try to marry off Kristoff and Anna, despite one of the morals of the movie being that you shouldn't marry too impulsively. Finally, when the elder troll comes up with the idea of the act of true love, it's another troll who suggests the whole kiss thing. Care to interject here, Grandpa? Surely "love experts" should have a better understanding that it could be ''any'' act of true love. Thankfully it was a beneficial mistake as had they known better, Anna would not have had the opportunity to save her sister.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'' (2013). The so-called "Love Experts" are anything but. First, their solution to Elsa's magic problem is to ''remove Anna's memory'' of it! While the troll in question does promise to "leave the fun", he does remove memories of her having fun with Elsa. Later in the movie, the trolls try to marry off Kristoff and Anna, despite one of the morals of the movie being that you shouldn't marry too impulsively. Finally, when the elder troll comes up with the idea of the act of true love, it's another troll who suggests the whole kiss thing. Care to interject here, Grandpa? Surely "love experts" should have a better understanding that it could be ''any'' act of true love. Thankfully it was a beneficial mistake as had they known better, Anna would not have had the opportunity to save her sister.
16th May '17 5:40:24 PM komodosp
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'' (2013). The so-called "Love Experts" are anything but. First, their solution to Elsa's magic problem is to ''remove Anna's memory'' of it! Later in the movie, the trolls try to marry off Kristoff and Anna, despite one of the morals of the movie being that you shouldn't marry too impulsively. Finally, when the elder troll comes up with the idea of the act of true love, it's another troll who suggests the whole kiss thing. Care to interject here, Grandpa? Surely "love experts" should have a better understanding. Thankfully it was a beneficial mistake as had they known better, Anna would not have had the opportunity to save her sister.

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'' (2013). The so-called "Love Experts" are anything but. First, their solution to Elsa's magic problem is to ''remove Anna's memory'' of it! Later in the movie, the trolls try to marry off Kristoff and Anna, despite one of the morals of the movie being that you shouldn't marry too impulsively. Finally, when the elder troll comes up with the idea of the act of true love, it's another troll who suggests the whole kiss thing. Care to interject here, Grandpa? Surely "love experts" should have a better understanding.understanding that it could be ''any'' act of true love. Thankfully it was a beneficial mistake as had they known better, Anna would not have had the opportunity to save her sister.
16th May '17 5:38:41 PM komodosp
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Frozen}}'' (2013). The so-called "Love Experts" are anything but. First, their solution to Elsa's magic problem is to ''remove Anna's memory'' of it! Later in the movie, the trolls try to marry off Kristoff and Anna, despite one of the morals of the movie being that you shouldn't marry too impulsively. Finally, when the elder troll comes up with the idea of the act of true love, it's another troll who suggests the whole kiss thing. Care to interject here, Grandpa? Surely "love experts" should have a better understanding. Thankfully it was a beneficial mistake as had they known better, Anna would not have had the opportunity to save her sister.
** But the trolls aren't the only ones. What about the king and queen's treatment of poor Elsa? Their solution to her problems with magic is to ''imprison her for pretty much her entire childhood!'' Since we never have any evidence that they are evil, we can only conclude it is stupidity, or very, ''very'' bad parenting. (Remember, prior to this point in the movie, all the evidence shows Elsa had full control of her magic. Anna was injured only because of a badly aimed spell, not because poor self control, which was really Anna's fault for going a bit hyper with the snow-mound jumping game. Elsa's self-control problems only appeared when she was being repressed. And they went away when she was free, and also after the connection with her sister was reestablished.
** Finally, and this is most likely an intended one, but Anna is leaving to find Elsa, and leaves Hans in charge of the entire castle! Yes, the guy she only just met, and sung a song with. Not, perhaps, whoever was looking after the kingdom up until ''just yesterday'', i.e. before Elsa was crowned queen.
19th Apr '17 4:50:09 AM Shadowgazer
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** Of course the only reason this counts is because of VillainsActHeroesReact.
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