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13th May '16 10:48:32 PM Doug86
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* Creator/HarryHarrison's ''BillTheGalacticHero'' books involve the titular character being a dumb farmboy on a backwater planet being tricked into enlisting into the fleet. He makes one stupid decision after another, mostly related to drinking, women, and money. In one of the novels it's revealed that his stupidity is directly caused by excessive drinking. When he's put on a prison ship for a few years without a drop of alcohol, his IQ jumps to genius-level, and he figures out several important things, such as the meaning of life (which, in LaymansTerms, can be phrased as "Life = Crap"). Then, at the end of the novel, he shares a toast with his friends, and promptly forgets everything he has learned. Most other characters aren't much smarter, at least the human ones. TheEmperor is an inbred who can barely string two sentences together, and the admiral in charge of the fleet in the first book is a ''baby'' in diapers. Is it any wonder TheEmpire is losing the war with the [[LizardFolk Chingers]] (which it started in the first place)?

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* Creator/HarryHarrison's ''BillTheGalacticHero'' ''Literature/BillTheGalacticHero'' books involve the titular character being a dumb farmboy on a backwater planet being tricked into enlisting into the fleet. He makes one stupid decision after another, mostly related to drinking, women, and money. In one of the novels it's revealed that his stupidity is directly caused by excessive drinking. When he's put on a prison ship for a few years without a drop of alcohol, his IQ jumps to genius-level, and he figures out several important things, such as the meaning of life (which, in LaymansTerms, can be phrased as "Life = Crap"). Then, at the end of the novel, he shares a toast with his friends, and promptly forgets everything he has learned. Most other characters aren't much smarter, at least the human ones. TheEmperor is an inbred who can barely string two sentences together, and the admiral in charge of the fleet in the first book is a ''baby'' in diapers. Is it any wonder TheEmpire is losing the war with the [[LizardFolk Chingers]] (which it started in the first place)?
19th Dec '15 2:39:22 PM Adept
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* Michael in the ''KnightAndRogueSeries''. Luckily, his squire Fisk was blessed with all the common sense Michael lacks.
* One of the running questions of the ''HalfPrince'' novels is whether the protagonist is one of these. Her narration always has ''some'' explanation for whatever stupid thing she's just done, but other characters tend to think she gets by on luck, attractiveness, and/or being so stupid that [[AchievementsInIgnorance she doesn't "know" she can't do something everyone else falsely thinks nobody can do]].

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* Michael in the ''KnightAndRogueSeries''.''Literature/KnightAndRogueSeries''. Luckily, his squire Fisk was blessed with all the common sense Michael lacks.
* One of the running questions of the ''HalfPrince'' ''Literature/HalfPrince'' novels is whether the protagonist is one of these. Her narration always has ''some'' explanation for whatever stupid thing she's just done, but other characters tend to think she gets by on luck, attractiveness, and/or being so stupid that [[AchievementsInIgnorance she doesn't "know" she can't do something everyone else falsely thinks nobody can do]].
30th Dec '14 9:41:37 AM nombretomado
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* HarryHarrison's ''BillTheGalacticHero'' books involve the titular character being a dumb farmboy on a backwater planet being tricked into enlisting into the fleet. He makes one stupid decision after another, mostly related to drinking, women, and money. In one of the novels it's revealed that his stupidity is directly caused by excessive drinking. When he's put on a prison ship for a few years without a drop of alcohol, his IQ jumps to genius-level, and he figures out several important things, such as the meaning of life (which, in LaymansTerms, can be phrased as "Life = Crap"). Then, at the end of the novel, he shares a toast with his friends, and promptly forgets everything he has learned. Most other characters aren't much smarter, at least the human ones. TheEmperor is an inbred who can barely string two sentences together, and the admiral in charge of the fleet in the first book is a ''baby'' in diapers. Is it any wonder TheEmpire is losing the war with the [[LizardFolk Chingers]] (which it started in the first place)?

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* HarryHarrison's Creator/HarryHarrison's ''BillTheGalacticHero'' books involve the titular character being a dumb farmboy on a backwater planet being tricked into enlisting into the fleet. He makes one stupid decision after another, mostly related to drinking, women, and money. In one of the novels it's revealed that his stupidity is directly caused by excessive drinking. When he's put on a prison ship for a few years without a drop of alcohol, his IQ jumps to genius-level, and he figures out several important things, such as the meaning of life (which, in LaymansTerms, can be phrased as "Life = Crap"). Then, at the end of the novel, he shares a toast with his friends, and promptly forgets everything he has learned. Most other characters aren't much smarter, at least the human ones. TheEmperor is an inbred who can barely string two sentences together, and the admiral in charge of the fleet in the first book is a ''baby'' in diapers. Is it any wonder TheEmpire is losing the war with the [[LizardFolk Chingers]] (which it started in the first place)?
18th May '14 11:22:56 AM FirebirdMaximus
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* Gregor from ''Literature/TheUnderlandChronicles''. He's just a kid, after all.
17th Mar '14 6:11:42 PM WillBGood
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* ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea'': Verne’s writing constantly informs us (and Counseil and Aronnax repeatedly lampshade) that Ned Land is a HotBlooded, GreatWhiteHunter, BigEater RealMenEatMeat BookDumb BadAss [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking who is from ]] [[CanadaEh Canada]]. FridgeBrilliance when you realize that Land ''needs to be'' an Idiot Hero: [[spoiler: Ned Land's personality permits him being the OnlySaneMan capable of resisting Captain Nemo’s charism]].

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* ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea'': Verne’s writing constantly informs us (and Counseil and Aronnax repeatedly lampshade) that Ned Land is a HotBlooded, GreatWhiteHunter, BigEater RealMenEatMeat BookDumb BadAss [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking who is from ]] [[CanadaEh Canada]]. FridgeBrilliance when you realize that Land ''needs to be'' an Idiot Hero: [[spoiler: Ned Land's personality permits him being the OnlySaneMan capable of resisting Captain Nemo’s charism]].charisma]].
12th Feb '14 10:56:34 PM TheWildWestPyro
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* Percy Jackson in ''Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians'' is, not, er, the sharpest blade on the weapon rack, and a whole list of his idiotic moments could get its own page. One such example is that, in his ''first book'', no less, he tried to get his friends to take a photo with [[spoiler: Medusa.]]
11th Nov '13 10:57:19 AM Gess
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* ''Literature/HarryPotter''. He may not be ditzy or absent-minded per se, but he suffers from a terminal lack of self-preservation, trust into his peers, especially adults, as well as total inability to foresee the consequences of his actions. At least OnceAnEpisode he rushes heads forward into a situation he has no feasible way of mastering, usually without any planning or preparation. Only [[TheSpock Hermione]], [[DeusExMachina Dumbledore]], and the fact that all the villains [[IdiotBall suddenly become stupid]] at the crucial moments keep him from killing himself.

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* ''Literature/HarryPotter''. He may not be ditzy or absent-minded per se, but he suffers from a terminal lack of self-preservation, self-preservation and trust into his peers, especially adults, as well as total and persistent inability to foresee the consequences of his actions. At least OnceAnEpisode he rushes heads forward into a situation he has no feasible way of mastering, usually without any planning or preparation. Only [[TheSpock Hermione]], [[DeusExMachina Dumbledore]], and the fact that all the villains [[IdiotBall suddenly become stupid]] at the crucial moments keep him from killing himself.
8th Aug '13 10:02:39 AM Gess
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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': Harry, with sparing moments of clarity. At least OnceAnEpisode he rushes heads forward into a situation he has no feasible way of mastering, usually without any planning or preparation. Only Hermione, TheSpock to Harry's [[TheKirk Kirk]], Dumbledore, the DeusExMachina Extraordianre, and the PowerOfLove keep him from killing himself repeatedly.
** Harry is not at all an idiot hero in traditional sense. He's frequently proven that he is quite intelligent, and since we follow the story from his point of view, we learn that he also thinks a lot and has thought processes much more advanced than your average idiot hero would ever have. He can fall into the territory of this trope when he lets his feelings get the better of him, but he's usually not ditzy at all.

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* ''Literature/HarryPotter'': Harry, with sparing moments ''Literature/HarryPotter''. He may not be ditzy or absent-minded per se, but he suffers from a terminal lack of clarity.self-preservation, trust into his peers, especially adults, as well as total inability to foresee the consequences of his actions. At least OnceAnEpisode he rushes heads forward into a situation he has no feasible way of mastering, usually without any planning or preparation. Only Hermione, TheSpock to Harry's [[TheKirk Kirk]], Dumbledore, the DeusExMachina Extraordianre, [[TheSpock Hermione]], [[DeusExMachina Dumbledore]], and the PowerOfLove fact that all the villains [[IdiotBall suddenly become stupid]] at the crucial moments keep him from killing himself repeatedly.
** Harry is not at all an idiot hero in traditional sense. He's frequently proven that he is quite intelligent, and since we follow the story from his point of view, we learn that he also thinks a lot and has thought processes much more advanced than your average idiot hero would ever have. He can fall into the territory of this trope when he lets his feelings get the better of him, but he's usually not ditzy at all.
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8th Jul '13 1:42:07 PM WillBGood
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* HarryHarrison's ''BillTheGalacticHero'' books involve the titular character being a dumb farmboy on a backwater planet being tricked into enlisting into the fleet. He makes one stupid decision after another, mostly related to drinking, women, and money. In one of the novels it's revealed that his stupidity is directly caused by excessive drinking. When he's put on a prison ship for a few years without a drop of alcohol, his IQ jumps to genius-level, and he figures out several important things, such as the meaning of life (which, in LaymansTerms, can be phrased as "Life = Crap"). Then, at the end of the novel, he shares a toast with his friends, and promptly forgets everything he has learned. Most other characters aren't much smarter, at least the human ones. TheEmperor is an inbred who can barely string two sentences together, and the admiral in charge of the fleet in the first book is a ''baby'' in diapers. Is it any wonder TheEmpire is losing the war with the [[LizardFolk Chingers]] (which it started in the first place).

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* HarryHarrison's ''BillTheGalacticHero'' books involve the titular character being a dumb farmboy on a backwater planet being tricked into enlisting into the fleet. He makes one stupid decision after another, mostly related to drinking, women, and money. In one of the novels it's revealed that his stupidity is directly caused by excessive drinking. When he's put on a prison ship for a few years without a drop of alcohol, his IQ jumps to genius-level, and he figures out several important things, such as the meaning of life (which, in LaymansTerms, can be phrased as "Life = Crap"). Then, at the end of the novel, he shares a toast with his friends, and promptly forgets everything he has learned. Most other characters aren't much smarter, at least the human ones. TheEmperor is an inbred who can barely string two sentences together, and the admiral in charge of the fleet in the first book is a ''baby'' in diapers. Is it any wonder TheEmpire is losing the war with the [[LizardFolk Chingers]] (which it started in the first place).place)?
8th Apr '13 7:23:19 AM LordGro
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* Several of the "heroes" in ''ASongOfIceAndFire''. Unfortunately, they live in a CrapsackWorld, so [[AnyoneCanDie they tend to die a lot]].

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* Several of the "heroes" in ''ASongOfIceAndFire''.''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''. Unfortunately, they live in a CrapsackWorld, so [[AnyoneCanDie they tend to die a lot]].



* TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea: Verne’s writing constantly inform us (and Counseil and Aronnax repeatedly lampshade) that Ned Land is a HotBlooded, GreatWhiteHunter, BigEater RealMenEatMeat BookDumb BadAss [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking who is from ]] [[CanadaEh Canada]]. FridgeBrilliance when you realize that Land ''needs to be'' an Idiot Hero: [[spoiler: Ned Land's personality permits him being the OnlySaneMan capable of resisting Captain Nemo’s charism]].

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* TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea: ''Literature/TwentyThousandLeaguesUnderTheSea'': Verne’s writing constantly inform informs us (and Counseil and Aronnax repeatedly lampshade) that Ned Land is a HotBlooded, GreatWhiteHunter, BigEater RealMenEatMeat BookDumb BadAss [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking who is from ]] [[CanadaEh Canada]]. FridgeBrilliance when you realize that Land ''needs to be'' an Idiot Hero: [[spoiler: Ned Land's personality permits him being the OnlySaneMan capable of resisting Captain Nemo’s charism]].
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