History IAmNotShazam / ComicBooks

4th Jun '18 5:03:28 PM FirstStrike
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* ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' is the name of the book, ''not'' the name of the team. The kids do not have a name for themselves, just like [[NotWearingTights they do not have costumes or code names]]. This is made more confusing because most fans do refer to them as "The Runaways", mostly because it is easier than saying, "those teenagers that star in the comic series that is called Runaways." The problem is exacerbated because Nico (The sort-of [[TeamMom team leader]]) does at one time address the group as "Runaways" (With the statement "Runaways, ''run away''!"); she is using the term as a description of the people on the team (Who are all teenage runaways), rather than as an identifying name.

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* ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' is was the name of the book, ''not'' the name of the team. The kids do not have a name for themselves, just like [[NotWearingTights they do not have costumes or code names]]. This is made more confusing because most fans do refer to them as "The Runaways", mostly because it is easier than saying, "those teenagers that star in the comic series that is called Runaways." The problem is exacerbated because Nico (The sort-of [[TeamMom team leader]]) does at one time address the group as "Runaways" (With the statement "Runaways, ''run away''!"); she is using the term as a description of the people on the team (Who are all teenage runaways), rather than as an identifying name.



* ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey is not the team's official name, and was not even spoken in dialogue until issue #86 of the series, wherein [[Comicbook/{{Blackhawk}} Lady Blackhawk]] sugested it as a potential name. In later issues the characters ''specifically said'' that it was not their team name when Zinda Blake continues to use it, and it has never been used on "official" business (i.e. the induction of new members or cooperations with other superteams). However, the writers themselves often seem to forget this point, as numerous characters (Both on and off the team) refer to them as 'the birds' on a semi-regular basis, and the full "Birds of Prey" title itself makes an occasional appearance.

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** Eventually, their official team name ''did'' become the Runaways. Albeit, being the type of series that it is, gets lampshaded by how ridiculous that they're being called that. Rarely do the ''team'' call themselves that however, as it's mainly used by non-members. In the 2017 revival, Gert even asks after coming BackFromTheDead "Who came up with that name", and Chase believes it was ComicBook/CaptainAmerica.
* ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey is not the team's official name, and was not even spoken in dialogue until issue #86 of the series, wherein [[Comicbook/{{Blackhawk}} Lady Blackhawk]] sugested suggested it as a potential name. In later issues the characters ''specifically said'' that it was not their team name when Zinda Blake continues to use it, and it has never been used on "official" business (i.e. the induction of new members or cooperations with other superteams). However, the writers themselves often seem to forget this point, as numerous characters (Both on and off the team) refer to them as 'the birds' on a semi-regular basis, and the full "Birds of Prey" title itself makes an occasional appearance.
22nd Apr '18 9:37:13 PM KagSwirby
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** ''WesternAnimation/{{Mad}}'', produced by Warner Brothers (which owns DC) averts this trope, but in a couple of sketches they refer to Cap as "Shazam" for the sake of a joke; for example, in the "Superfriends" song, they use it because it fit the song better than "Captain Marvel".

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** ''WesternAnimation/{{Mad}}'', produced by Warner Brothers (which owns DC) averts this trope, but in a couple of sketches they refer to Cap as "Shazam" for the sake of a joke; for example, in the "Superfriends" song, they use it because it fit the song better than "Captain Marvel".Marvel"; as well as their ''Series/SamAndCat'' parody "Shazam and Cat".
7th Apr '18 11:59:24 AM nombretomado
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* Played with in an issue of ''[[ComicBook/TheAvengers A]] + [[ComicBook/XMen X]]'', where {{Deadpool}} teams up with Hawkeye. At one point, Deadpool is about to call Hawkeye [[Literature/LordOfTheRings "Legolas"]] before he shoots that down. Then he calls him [[Literature/TheHungerGames "Hunger Games"]] [[note]]most likely trying to reference Katniss[[/note]], which gets shot down, too, and [[WesternAnimation/{{Brave}} "Brave! The girl from Brave!"]] Yep. Shot down.

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* Played with in an issue of ''[[ComicBook/TheAvengers A]] + [[ComicBook/XMen X]]'', where {{Deadpool}} ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} teams up with Hawkeye. At one point, Deadpool is about to call Hawkeye [[Literature/LordOfTheRings "Legolas"]] before he shoots that down. Then he calls him [[Literature/TheHungerGames "Hunger Games"]] [[note]]most likely trying to reference Katniss[[/note]], which gets shot down, too, and [[WesternAnimation/{{Brave}} "Brave! The girl from Brave!"]] Yep. Shot down.
14th Feb '18 12:02:43 AM TheMountainKing
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* The lead character of Creator/NeilGaiman's ''ComicBook/TheSandman'' goes by many names, but "the Sandman" is never one of them. The closest he comes to acknowledging this name occurs when he is moved to laughter -- for the first and only time in the series, and even then, with a mask covering his face -- by the presumption of a human superhero calling himself "the Sandman". There's a certain irony in this, as the superhero Sandman comes from an older, defunct DC series; although in the continuity of ''Sandman'' Morpheus is of course much, much older than Wesley Dodds, in real chronology Dodds had the title first.

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* The lead character of Creator/NeilGaiman's ''ComicBook/TheSandman'' goes by many names, but "the Sandman" is never one of them. The closest he comes to acknowledging this name occurs when he is moved to laughter -- for the first and only time in the series, and even then, with a mask covering his face -- by the presumption of a human superhero calling himself "the Sandman". There's a certain irony in this, as the superhero Sandman comes from an older, defunct DC series; although in the continuity of ''Sandman'' Morpheus is of course much, much older than Wesley Dodds, Hector Hall, in real chronology Dodds Hall had the title first.earlier.
14th Feb '18 12:00:55 AM TheMountainKing
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* In [[Creator/AlanMoore Alan Moore's]] ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', the title is thematic and [[LiteraryAllusionTitle poetic]], not literal; there is a team of heroes called the Minutemen and a later, failed attempt to form one called the Crimebusters, but there is no team called the Watchmen. [[Film/{{Watchmen}} The movie]] actually does rename the Crimebusters "the Watchmen". however it still applies, since the Crimebusters/Watchmen were a proposed team that never actually formed. The five main characters never make up an organized superhero team. For the most part, they're just independent vigilantes who form some close personal relationships. Nite Owl and Rorschach are the only characters who regularly fight crime as a team.

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* In [[Creator/AlanMoore Alan Moore's]] ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', the title is thematic and [[LiteraryAllusionTitle poetic]], not literal; there is a team of heroes called the Minutemen and a later, failed attempt to form one called the Crimebusters, but there is no team called the Watchmen. [[Film/{{Watchmen}} The movie]] actually does rename the Crimebusters "the Watchmen". however Watchmen", however, it still applies, counts, since the Crimebusters/Watchmen were a proposed team that never actually formed. The five main characters never make up an organized superhero team. For the most part, they're just independent vigilantes who form some close personal relationships. Nite Owl and Rorschach are the only characters who regularly fight fought crime as a team.
13th Feb '18 11:59:46 PM TheMountainKing
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* In [[Creator/AlanMoore Alan Moore's]] ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', the title is thematic and [[LiteraryAllusionTitle poetic]], not literal; there is a team of heroes called the Minutemen and a later, failed attempt to form one called the Crimebusters, but there is no team called the Watchmen.
[[Film/{{Watchmen}} The movie]] actually does rename the Crimebusters "the Watchmen". however it still applies, since the Crimebusters/Watchmen were a proposed team that never actually formed. The five main characters never make up an organized superhero team. For the most part, they're just independent vigilantes who form some close personal relationships. Nite Owl and Rorschach are the only characters who regularly fight crime as a team.

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* In [[Creator/AlanMoore Alan Moore's]] ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', the title is thematic and [[LiteraryAllusionTitle poetic]], not literal; there is a team of heroes called the Minutemen and a later, failed attempt to form one called the Crimebusters, but there is no team called the Watchmen.
Watchmen. [[Film/{{Watchmen}} The movie]] actually does rename the Crimebusters "the Watchmen". however it still applies, since the Crimebusters/Watchmen were a proposed team that never actually formed. The five main characters never make up an organized superhero team. For the most part, they're just independent vigilantes who form some close personal relationships. Nite Owl and Rorschach are the only characters who regularly fight crime as a team.
13th Feb '18 11:59:08 PM TheMountainKing
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* Im Alan Moore's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', the title is thematic and [[LiteraryAllusionTitle poetic]], not literal; there is a team of heroes called the Minutemen and a later, failed attempt to form one called the Crimebusters, but there is no team called the Watchmen.
[[Film/{{Watchmen}} The movie]] actually does rename the Crimebusters "the Watchmen". however it still applies, since the Crimebusters/Watchmen were a proposed team that never actually formed. The five main characters never make up an organized superhero team. For the most part, they're just independent vigilantes who form some close personal relationships. Nite Owl and Rorschach are the only characters who regularly fight crime as a team.

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* Im In [[Creator/AlanMoore Alan Moore's Moore's]] ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', the title is thematic and [[LiteraryAllusionTitle poetic]], not literal; there is a team of heroes called the Minutemen and a later, failed attempt to form one called the Crimebusters, but there is no team called the Watchmen.
Watchmen.
[[Film/{{Watchmen}} The movie]] actually does rename the Crimebusters "the Watchmen". however it still applies, since the Crimebusters/Watchmen were a proposed team that never actually formed. The five main characters never make up an organized superhero team. For the most part, they're just independent vigilantes who form some close personal relationships. Nite Owl and Rorschach are the only characters who regularly fight crime as a team.
13th Feb '18 11:57:44 PM TheMountainKing
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* Im Alan Moore's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', the title is thematic and [[LiteraryAllusionTitle poetic]], not literal; there is a team of heroes called the Minutemen and a later, failed attempt to form one called the Crimebusters, but there is no team called the Watchmen.[[Film/{{Watchmen}} The movie]] actually does rename the Crimebusters "the Watchmen". however it still applies, since the Crimebusters/Watchmen were a proposed team that never actually formed. The five main characters never make up an organized superhero team. For the most part, they're just independent vigilantes who form some close personal relationships. Nite Owl and Rorschach are the only characters who regularly fight crime as a team.

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* Im Alan Moore's ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'', the title is thematic and [[LiteraryAllusionTitle poetic]], not literal; there is a team of heroes called the Minutemen and a later, failed attempt to form one called the Crimebusters, but there is no team called the Watchmen.Watchmen.
[[Film/{{Watchmen}} The movie]] actually does rename the Crimebusters "the Watchmen". however it still applies, since the Crimebusters/Watchmen were a proposed team that never actually formed. The five main characters never make up an organized superhero team. For the most part, they're just independent vigilantes who form some close personal relationships. Nite Owl and Rorschach are the only characters who regularly fight crime as a team.
13th Feb '18 11:57:14 PM TheMountainKing
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* The lead character of Creator/NeilGaiman's ''ComicBook/TheSandman'' goes by many names, but "the Sandman" is never one of them. The closest he comes to acknowledging this name occurs when he is moved to laughter -- for the first and only time in the series, and even then, with a mask covering his face -- by the presumption of a human superhero calling himself "the Sandman". There's a certain irony in this, as the superhero Sandman comes from an older, defunct DC series; although in the continuity of ''Sandman'' Morpheus is of course much, much older than Hector Hall, in real chronology Hall had the title first.

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* The lead character of Creator/NeilGaiman's ''ComicBook/TheSandman'' goes by many names, but "the Sandman" is never one of them. The closest he comes to acknowledging this name occurs when he is moved to laughter -- for the first and only time in the series, and even then, with a mask covering his face -- by the presumption of a human superhero calling himself "the Sandman". There's a certain irony in this, as the superhero Sandman comes from an older, defunct DC series; although in the continuity of ''Sandman'' Morpheus is of course much, much older than Hector Hall, Wesley Dodds, in real chronology Hall Dodds had the title first.
19th Dec '17 8:09:19 AM kyojikasshu
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* In a weird story arc example, the famous ComicBook/IronMan story arc "Armor Wars" is actually called "Stark Wars", despite what the trade says. (It was intended as a ''Franchise/StarWars'' pun.) Even Marvel got this wrong, or at least Retconned it--they commissioned and advertised an "Armor Wars Part II" storyline, and the readers knew exactly what they meant.
** Also, the two different "Stark becomes an alcoholic" stories often get conflated as one arc, "Demon In A Bottle". That story is only the early one from 1980, in which he kills the Carnelian ambassador and sobers up rather quickly. The multi-year arc in the mid-80s where Obadiah Stane is the villain and Rhodey becomes Iron Man for the first time has no real name, although some fans call it "Demon In A Bottle II".

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* In a weird story arc example, the famous ComicBook/IronMan story arc "Armor Wars" is actually called "Stark Wars", despite what Wars" inside the trade says.comics. (It was intended as a ''Franchise/StarWars'' pun.) Even However, Marvel got this wrong, or at least Retconned it--they commissioned promoted it as the "Armor War" (singular) in their splash ad for the first issue of the arc, and advertised an the trade paperback was released as "Armor Wars", even though the individual chapters retained the original "Stark Wars" name in their titles. In any case, by the time "Armor Wars Part II" storyline, and appeared in the readers knew exactly what they meant.
comic, the "Armor Wars" name had stuck.
** Also, the two different "Stark becomes an alcoholic" stories often get conflated as one arc, "Demon In A Bottle". That story is only the early one from 1980, in which he kills the Carnelian ambassador and sobers up rather quickly. In fact, the title comes from the final issue of the arc, and the original trade paperback was released as "The Power of Iron Man", only later being reissued under the "Demon in a Bottle" name. The multi-year arc in the mid-80s where Obadiah Stane is the villain and Rhodey becomes Iron Man for the first time has no real name, although some fans call it "Demon In A Bottle II".
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