History Horrible / WCW

21st Sep '17 2:49:17 PM JamesAustin
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* ''New Blood Rising''. If someone tries to sell you on Russo as a misunderstood genius, show them this PPV. The whole thing was just over-swerved.

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* ''New Blood Rising''. If someone tries to sell you on Russo as Rising'' is basically a misunderstood genius, show them this PPV. The whole thing micro-cosmos of Russo's infamous booking; one would say that it was just over-swerved.one long, elaborate parody of Russo's booking style if it wasn't for the fact that it was indeed booked by him.



** What's interesting is that Sting said in various interviews recently that after Owen fell, he declined to do the entrance from the ceiling anymore for a number of reasons, and yet here is Russo booking it again the very next year.
* Russo briefly lost his job when he floated Tank Abbott's name as WCW Champion. Turns out Abbott was a borderline psychopath. Check out that "Leather Jacket on a Pole" match at ''[=SuperBrawl=]'' 2000. Good God...that wasn't wrestling. That was Tank Abbott just mauling someone and then ending the match with a knife to the guy's throat and threatening to kill him. What kind of flake would nominate this guy as champion? (The camera cut away quickly, with Schiavone saying he was just going to cut off Al's beard. Al doesn't have a beard.) The worst part was, Big Al wasn't actually a trained wrestler. Tank Abbott tries carrying the guy up the stairs without using his hands, and the fall ''alone'' was savage. Big Al was lucky.

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** What's interesting is that Sting said in various interviews recently that after Owen Hart fell, he declined to do the entrance from the ceiling anymore for a number of reasons, and yet here is Russo booking it again the very next year.
* Russo briefly lost his job when he floated Tank Abbott's name as to win the WCW Champion.World Heavyweight Championship. Turns out Abbott was a borderline psychopath. Check out that "Leather Jacket on a Pole" match at ''[=SuperBrawl=]'' 2000. Good God...that wasn't wrestling. That was Tank Abbott just mauling someone and then ending the match with a knife to the guy's throat and threatening to kill him. What kind of flake would nominate this guy as champion? (The camera cut away quickly, with Schiavone saying he was just going to cut off Al's beard. Al doesn't didn't have a beard.) The worst part was, Big Al wasn't actually a trained wrestler. Tank Abbott tries carrying the guy up the stairs without using his hands, and the fall ''alone'' was savage. Big Al was lucky.
21st Sep '17 12:49:27 PM OptimumTaurus
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** Arquette's win would've been fine if they had reversed it the next week for not pinning the legal man. Arquette courageously entered the ring and awkwardly speared Wrestling/EricBischoff as Wrestling/JeffJarrett clobbered Wrestling/DiamondDallasPage with the belt. This match was filled with tomfoolery and could hardly have been considered an athletic contest. Arquette was given no legitimacy for the win. He spent the next two appearances apologizing to DDP (as DDP was the champion going into that match, meaning that Arquette had [[TheLoad accidentally taken Page's title when he won]]), trying to give the belt back and generally acting like he was scared to death he might have to defend it in a match against actual wrestlers. But they actually ran with it, turned David heel, and had him purposely lose the title to Jeff Jarrett. The entire company was made to look like a joke in order to pop ratings and tie in with a movie that most fans (at the time) thought was worse than ''No Holds Barred.'' Even Arquette fought against it, since ''he knew'' it would [[XPacHeat annoy the fans]], but he was contractually obligated. He quietly donated his paychecks to the families of Wrestling/OwenHart, Wrestling/BrianPillman, Bobby Duncum Jr., Brian "Mark Curtis" Hildebrand (all deceased), and Darren "Droz" Drozdov (paralyzed from the waist down following an in-ring accident), so at least some good came of it.

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** Arquette's win would've been fine if they had reversed it the next week for not pinning the legal man. Arquette courageously entered the ring and awkwardly speared Wrestling/EricBischoff as Wrestling/JeffJarrett clobbered Wrestling/DiamondDallasPage with the belt. This match was filled with tomfoolery and could hardly have been considered an athletic contest. Arquette was given no legitimacy for the win. He spent the next two appearances apologizing to DDP (as DDP was the champion going into that match, meaning that Arquette had [[TheLoad accidentally taken Page's title when he won]]), trying to give the belt back and generally acting like he was scared to death he might have to defend it in a match against actual wrestlers. But they actually ran with it, turned David heel, and had him purposely lose the title to Jeff Jarrett. The entire company was made to look like a joke in order to pop ratings and tie in with a movie that most fans (at the time) thought was worse than ''No Holds Barred.'' Even Arquette (a life-long wrestling fan himself) fought against it, since ''he knew'' it would [[XPacHeat annoy the fans]], but he was contractually obligated. He quietly donated his paychecks to the families of Wrestling/OwenHart, Wrestling/BrianPillman, Bobby Duncum Jr., Brian "Mark Curtis" Hildebrand (all deceased), and Darren "Droz" Drozdov (paralyzed from the waist down following an in-ring accident), so at least some good came of it.
18th Sep '17 5:11:20 PM TheFallofElDorado
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* To promote the film ''Film/ReadyToRumble'', WCW allowed actor Creator/DavidArquette to win their heavyweight title, keep it for a good clip of time, then ''[[FaceHeelTurn turn heel]]'' (with overzealous Tony Schiavone calling it "the ''ultimate'' swerve!!"). So, to recap:

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* To promote the film ''Film/ReadyToRumble'', WCW allowed actor Creator/DavidArquette to win their heavyweight title, keep it for a good clip of time, then ''[[FaceHeelTurn turn heel]]'' (with overzealous Tony Schiavone calling it "the ''ultimate'' swerve!!"). For those who don't feel like reading, [[WebVideo/CinematicExcrement Smeghead]] talks about everything that happend in [[https://youtu.be/LdtnYC-j6Iw Part 2]] of his review for the aforementioned movie. So, to recap:
18th Sep '17 4:43:38 AM willemdafriendo
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** Arquette's win would've been fine if they had reversed it the next week for not pinning the legal man. Arquette courageously entered the ring and awkwardly speared Wrestling/EricBischoff as Wrestling/JeffJarrett clobbered Wrestling/DiamondDallasPage with the belt. This match was filled with tomfoolery and could hardly have been considered an athletic contest. Arquette was given no legitimacy for the win. He spent the next two appearances apologizing to DDP (as DDP was the champion going into that match, meaning that Arquette had [[TheLoad accidentally taken Page's title when he won]]), trying to give the belt back and generally acting like he was scared to death he might have to defend it in a match against actual wrestlers. But they actually ran with it, turned David heel, and had him purposely lose the title. The entire company was made to look like a joke in order to pop ratings and tie in with a movie that most fans (at the time) thought was worse than ''No Holds Barred.'' Even Arquette fought against it, since ''he knew'' it would [[XPacHeat annoy the fans]], but he was contractually obligated. He quietly donated his paychecks to the families of Wrestling/OwenHart, Wrestling/BrianPillman, Bobby Duncum Jr., Brian "Mark Curtis" Hildebrand (all deceased), and Darren "Droz" Drozdov (paralyzed from the waist down following an in-ring accident), so at least some good came of it.

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** Arquette's win would've been fine if they had reversed it the next week for not pinning the legal man. Arquette courageously entered the ring and awkwardly speared Wrestling/EricBischoff as Wrestling/JeffJarrett clobbered Wrestling/DiamondDallasPage with the belt. This match was filled with tomfoolery and could hardly have been considered an athletic contest. Arquette was given no legitimacy for the win. He spent the next two appearances apologizing to DDP (as DDP was the champion going into that match, meaning that Arquette had [[TheLoad accidentally taken Page's title when he won]]), trying to give the belt back and generally acting like he was scared to death he might have to defend it in a match against actual wrestlers. But they actually ran with it, turned David heel, and had him purposely lose the title.title to Jeff Jarrett. The entire company was made to look like a joke in order to pop ratings and tie in with a movie that most fans (at the time) thought was worse than ''No Holds Barred.'' Even Arquette fought against it, since ''he knew'' it would [[XPacHeat annoy the fans]], but he was contractually obligated. He quietly donated his paychecks to the families of Wrestling/OwenHart, Wrestling/BrianPillman, Bobby Duncum Jr., Brian "Mark Curtis" Hildebrand (all deceased), and Darren "Droz" Drozdov (paralyzed from the waist down following an in-ring accident), so at least some good came of it.



** Wrestling had been called out as "fake" numerous times by this point, and everyone knew it was a show. (That's Russo for you. Whenever anyone questions his ideas, his defense is always, ''"Why can't I do X? Wrestling is fake, so I should be allowed to do X."'') Regarding his second point, being "memorable" doesn't equate to being good for short or long-term business. If Arquette had come out and humped a donkey, it'd be more talked about than his title win.

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** Wrestling had been called out as "fake" numerous times by this point, and everyone knew it was a show. (That's Russo for you. Whenever anyone questions his ideas, his defense is always, ''"Why can't I do X? Wrestling is fake, so I should be allowed to do X."'') Regarding his second point, being "memorable" doesn't equate to being good for short or long-term business. If Arquette had come out and humped a donkey, it'd be more talked about than his title win. That's like saying that Pearl Harbor was good because hey at least it's memorable.
18th Sep '17 4:30:41 AM willemdafriendo
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** Lance Storm. He's clearly the most over active wrestler in the building and he's booked like a cowardly heel. But then the next night he's booked as the babyface rebelling against authority. Made no sense and hurt his push. Lance was actually one of the most over people in the company during that period (one of the few, actually), so of course Russo decides to try to re-hash the Stone Cold vs. Dude Love gimmick where the rules kept changing to screw the face, even though anyone with any common sense would have known that Lance Storm was being treated as a hero, and essentially had him lose 3 or 4 times in the same match, before winning by cheating--in Canada. (And Mike Awesome wasn't exactly setting the world on fire.)

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** Lance Storm. He's clearly the most over active wrestler in the building building, and he's booked like a cowardly heel. But then the next night he's booked as the babyface rebelling against authority. Made no sense and hurt his push. Lance was actually one of the most over people popular guys in the company during that period (one of the few, actually), so of course Russo decides to try to re-hash the Stone Cold vs. Dude Love gimmick where the rules kept changing to screw the face, even though anyone with any common sense would have known that Lance Storm was being treated as a hero, and essentially had him lose 3 or 4 times in the same match, before winning by cheating--in Canada. (And Mike Awesome wasn't exactly setting the world on fire.)



* According to Bret Hart, the Power Plant itself had some moments of horrible decisions; it was the Plant not training Goldberg about pulling his punches (or mule kicks) that led to Bret's CareerEndingInjury.



* According to Wrestling/BretHart, the Power Plant itself had some moments of horrible decisions; it was the Plant not training Goldberg about pulling his punches (or mule kicks) that led to Bret's CareerEndingInjury.


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* Vacating all the titles: never a good sign. Imagine watching ''Raw'' on Monday and them announcing that every championship was now vacant. If a wrestler can't book themselves to where they need to be without Creative taking a short cut of resetting everything, why should you get invested? Because maybe next year (or month in WCW-land) they'll reset it all over again.
17th Sep '17 5:52:40 PM willemdafriendo
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** The PPV was conceived because Eric was (and likely still is) a huge motorcycle fan. It was held for four years in Sturgis, South Dakota to coincide with the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally. Great main event which the horrible crowd totally drains the life out of: Since it was held outside and with the ring surrounded by motorcycles, there was no gate, meaning they lost money every year. Add in that when your audience consists of hundreds on drunk bikers, many of whom didn't care about wrestling and only wanted to see people get hurt, to the point that they loudly cheered a garbage match between forgettable wrestlers Scott Norton and Ice Train. The rest of us are happy to get more Wrestling/ChrisBenoit and Wrestling/DeanMalenko, while the bikers who got in free act like they'd rather shovel shit than watch these two guys wrestle a minute more. For that entire match they are either silent or booing. Not only was the best match of the night ruined, the bikers heaped racist abuse on Harlem Heat. Add in that for almost every bump, the bikers would rev their engines, meaning people who paid for the PPV couldn't hear the commentators. That Sturgis crowd was one of the worst in history.

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** The PPV was conceived because Eric was (and likely still is) a huge motorcycle fan. It was held for four years in Sturgis, South Dakota to coincide with the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally. Great main event which the horrible crowd totally drains the life out of: Since it was held outside and with the ring surrounded by motorcycles, there was no gate, meaning they lost money every year. Add in that when your audience consists of hundreds on of drunk bikers, many of whom didn't care about wrestling and only wanted to see people get hurt, to the point that they loudly cheered a garbage match between forgettable wrestlers Scott Norton and Ice Train. The rest of us are happy to get more Wrestling/ChrisBenoit and Wrestling/DeanMalenko, while the bikers who got in free act like they'd rather shovel shit than watch these two guys wrestle a minute more. For that entire match they are either silent or booing. Not only was the best match of the night ruined, the bikers heaped racist abuse on Harlem Heat. Add in that for almost every bump, the bikers would rev their engines, meaning people who paid for the PPV couldn't hear the commentators. That Sturgis crowd was one of the worst in history.



* Russo briefly lost his job when he submitted Tank Abbott's name as WCW Champion. Turns out Abbott was a borderline psychopath. Check out that "Leather Jacket on a Pole" match at ''[=SuperBrawl=]'' 2000. Good God...that wasn't wrestling. That was Tank Abbott just mauling someone and then ending the match with a knife to the guy's throat and threatening to kill him. What kind of flake would nominate this guy as champion? (The camera cut away quickly, with Schiavone saying he was just going to cut off Al's beard. Al doesn't have a beard.) The worst part was, Big Al wasn't actually a trained wrestler. Tank Abbott tries carrying the guy up the stairs without using his hands, and the fall ''alone'' was savage. Big Al was lucky.

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* Russo briefly lost his job when he submitted floated Tank Abbott's name as WCW Champion. Turns out Abbott was a borderline psychopath. Check out that "Leather Jacket on a Pole" match at ''[=SuperBrawl=]'' 2000. Good God...that wasn't wrestling. That was Tank Abbott just mauling someone and then ending the match with a knife to the guy's throat and threatening to kill him. What kind of flake would nominate this guy as champion? (The camera cut away quickly, with Schiavone saying he was just going to cut off Al's beard. Al doesn't have a beard.) The worst part was, Big Al wasn't actually a trained wrestler. Tank Abbott tries carrying the guy up the stairs without using his hands, and the fall ''alone'' was savage. Big Al was lucky.
15th Sep '17 5:52:21 PM willemdafriendo
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Part of the reason fans have so much nostalgia for WCW is that a lot of them never bought a single PPV. If they had actually spent money on he followng [=PPVs=], they'd probably be furious:

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Part of the reason fans have so much nostalgia for WCW is that a lot of them never bought a single PPV. If they had actually spent money on he followng [=PPVs=], any of the following, they'd probably be furious:
15th Sep '17 11:57:56 AM willemdafriendo
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* ''New Blood Rising''. If someome tries to tell you on Russo as a misunderstood genius, show them this show. The whole thing was just over-swerved.

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* ''New Blood Rising''. If someome someone tries to tell sell you on Russo as a misunderstood genius, show them this show.PPV. The whole thing was just over-swerved.
15th Sep '17 10:57:29 AM willemdafriendo
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* The WCW International World Heavyweight Championship. This "title" was created from the ashes from WCW's ill fated partnership with the NWA. When they broke up, the current NWA Champion, Ric Flair was stripped of the title, but retained the belt because WCW actually owned it. So "WCW International", a completely fictitious subsidiary, was created and Flair was recognized as it's World Champion (not to be confused with the actual WCW World Championship, held at the time by Vader). The whole thing was a mess and while the International title did have some top caliber champions (Sting, Flair, Rick Rude), it was mercifully ended in 1994 with a unification match with the WCW title.
15th Sep '17 10:53:31 AM willemdafriendo
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* On top of the Flair situation (see Trivia), Jim Herd attempted to make WCW into a product similar to the WWF. His efforts led to several horrible gimmicks with short shelf lives, including: the bell-ringing tag team known as the Ding Dongs, lumberjack Big Josh (the late Matt Bourne, known as the original Wrestling/DoinkTheClown), a comedic cowboy stable called the Desperados and an insane asylum patient called Norman the Lunatic (the late Mike "Friar Ferguson/Bastion Booger" Shaw).
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