History Horrible / TNA

5th Feb '16 7:30:35 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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** So your shot to be the next big thing in wrestling? There were four Gut Check contestants did anything of value in TNA, plus one who needed a gimmick change to work. That's 5/14, or 40%. And only one enjoyed lasting employment so less than 10%. Or, to put it in more direct terms, a failure on TNA's part.
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** So your shot to be the next big thing in wrestling? There were four Gut Check contestants who did anything of value in TNA, plus one who needed a gimmick change to work. That's 5/14, or 40%. And only one enjoyed lasting employment so less than 10%. Or, to put it in more direct terms, a failure on TNA's part.

** Eric Young becoming World champion. First of all, he was still doing the stale "comedy" character, which makes it the equivalent of WWE having Santino win their world title - i.e. the one guy who shouldn't be the face of the company, being the face of the company. Secondly, there was no build to the title match beyond however much of the show took place between Young becoming number one contender & the opening bell to the title match, since it all happened on show. But the most idiotic thing of all? It was just rehashing Daniel Bryan's title win from ''[=WrestleMania=] XXX'' (Y'know, '''the biggest pro-wrestling show in history''') a few weeks earlier, and everyone promptly called TNA on this.(bearded underdog wins opening match for title shot, goes into title match with injured arm but still wins title on same night he became #1 contender. The big difference being people were screaming at WWE to let Bryan be champion for a year while people were hoping Young would be getting time to rebuild after being one half of the Knockout Tag Team Champions). Regardless of what you think of Young, this was a terrible way to book his first world championship win.
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** Eric Young becoming World champion. First of all, he was still doing the stale "comedy" character, which makes it the equivalent of WWE having Santino win their world title - i.e. the one guy who shouldn't be the face of the company, being the face of the company. Secondly, there was no build to the title match beyond however much of the show took place between Young becoming number one contender & the opening bell to the title match, since it all happened on one show. But the most idiotic thing of all? It was just rehashing Daniel Bryan's title win from ''[=WrestleMania=] XXX'' (Y'know, '''the biggest pro-wrestling show in history''') of the year''') a few weeks earlier, and everyone promptly called TNA on this.(bearded underdog wins opening match for title shot, goes into title match with injured arm but still wins title on same night he became #1 contender. The big difference being people were screaming at WWE to let Bryan be champion for a year while people were hoping Young would be getting time to rebuild after being one half of the Knockout Tag Team Champions). Regardless of what you think of Young, this was a terrible way to book his first world championship win.
28th Dec '15 10:26:04 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Mexican America]] was a blind rehash of LAX, even down to its theme song, and an utter failure at that. Unlike LAX, though, it featured Mexican gimmicks exclusively, the majority of which were given to wrestlers who weren't even Latino, let alone Mexican. Only one member, Sarita, was any good, and she got the least time out of any of them--the others were near-fatally reckless (Hernandez), under-experienced ([[Wrestling/TheaTrinidad Rosita]]), or remarkable only in their obnoxiousness (Anarquia). Oh, and their lazy entry gimmick (involving a giant Mexican flag) blocked a good quarter of the Impact Zone.
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* [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Mexican America]] was a blind rehash of LAX, even down to its theme song, and an utter failure at that. Unlike LAX, though, it featured Mexican gimmicks exclusively, the majority of which were given to wrestlers who weren't even Latino, let alone Mexican. Only one member, Sarita, Wrestling/{{Sar|ahStock}}ita, was any good, and she got the least time out of any of them--the others were near-fatally reckless (Hernandez), under-experienced ([[Wrestling/TheaTrinidad Rosita]]), or remarkable only in their obnoxiousness (Anarquia). Oh, and their lazy entry gimmick (involving a giant Mexican flag) blocked a good quarter of the Impact Zone.
27th Dec '15 2:47:11 PM Willbyr
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* Rob Van Dam wins the TNA World Heavyweight Championship not so bad. Except that AJ Styles, the man many consider to be the greatest wrestler alive, [[CurbStompBattle was completely decimated by Van Dam]]. RVD then says in an interview that he won't drop the title to anyone who didn't work in the Attitude Era not so good. TNA nearly uses up all the guaranteed appearances for RVD in his contract, so they book him into an injury angle that lets him vacate the title without having to lose a match to ''anyone'' DarthWiki/WallBanger of epic proportions, made worse when he showed up a month later, completely peachy, on the same night they crowned a new champ! It's just another reminder of how badly TNA is mismanaged, and another thing people will point to when the inevitable ''Death of TNA'' book is written.
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* Rob Van Dam wins the TNA World Heavyweight Championship not so bad. Except that AJ Styles, the man many consider to be the greatest wrestler alive, [[CurbStompBattle was completely decimated by Van Dam]]. RVD then says in an interview that he won't drop the title to anyone who didn't work in the Attitude Era not so good. TNA nearly uses up all the guaranteed appearances for RVD in his contract, so they book him into an injury angle that lets him vacate the title without having to lose a match to ''anyone'' DarthWiki/WallBanger fuckup of epic proportions, made worse when he showed up a month later, completely peachy, on the same night they crowned a new champ! It's just another reminder of how badly TNA is mismanaged, and another thing people will point to when the inevitable ''Death of TNA'' book is written.
27th Dec '15 2:06:27 PM SeptimusHeap
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'''''Important Note #1''''': If something bad was an isolated incident or simply stupid, it was probably a [[WallBangers/ProfessionalWrestling Wall Banger]]. Merely being offensive in its subject matter is not enough to justify a work as So Bad It's Horrible. Hard as it is to imagine at times, there's a market for all types of deviancy (no matter how small a niche it is). It has to ''fail to appeal even to that niche'' to qualify as this.
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'''''Important Note #1''''': If something bad was an isolated incident or simply stupid, it was probably a [[WallBangers/ProfessionalWrestling Wall Banger]].does not make the whole thing Horrible. Merely being offensive in its subject matter is not enough to justify a work as So Bad It's Horrible. Hard as it is to imagine at times, there's a market for all types of deviancy (no matter how small a niche it is). It has to ''fail to appeal even to that niche'' to qualify as this.
26th Dec '15 7:11:48 PM SomeoneElse17
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* The Wrestling/RicFlair[=/=]Fortune angle wasn't well received, because while the wrestlers were great and still had loads of charisma, they still played the heels, despite being unable to pull it off. Their enemies included Dixie Carter and the creaky EV 2.0 faction, which worked harder against them.
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* The Wrestling/RicFlair[=/=]Fortune angle wasn't well received, because while the wrestlers were great and still had loads of charisma, they still played the heels, despite being unable too sympathetic to pull it off. Their enemies included Dixie Carter and the creaky EV 2.0 faction, which worked harder against them.
30th Nov '15 11:11:19 AM FF32
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*** Adam Pearce: turned down, in what is a DethroningMomentOfSuck in itself.
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*** Adam Pearce: turned down, in what is a DethroningMomentOfSuck DarthWiki/DethroningMomentOfSuck in itself.
13th Nov '15 9:13:24 AM SomeoneElse17
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* 2012 introduced an angle where Kazarian and Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels tried to prove Wrestling/AJStyles was having an affair with his boss, Dixie Carter, leading to AJ, professional athlete and all, being knocked out by Dixie's non-wrestling husband. Dixie revealed that in reality she and AJ were secretly giving aid to a pregnant drunkard crackhead named Claire Lynch, but Daniels and Kaz apparently knew about this the entire time and quickly revealed that AJ was the baby's father. AJ found this accusation so offensive that he demanded to wrestle Daniels in a match with the stipulation where he would admit to being the father if he lost or taking a [[DaddyDNATest paternity test]] to prove his innocence. Even though AJ won the match, the whole thing turned out to be a wash, as a woman posing as Claire's lawyer informed everyone that Daniels paid Claire to make the whole ridiculous story up. This could at least have worked to make him an even bigger heel but it was ''never mentioned again''. One would think Dixie Carter at least would discipline Daniels and Kaz someway after such a revelation, considering all the embarrassment their lies caused her and her company. The angle ran away with Website/WrestleCrap's [[http://www.wrestlecrap.com/inductions/claire-lynch-the-2012-gooker-award-winner/ Gooker award for the year]].
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* 2012 introduced an angle where Kazarian [[Wrestling/FrankieKazarian Kazarian]] and Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels tried to prove Wrestling/AJStyles was having an affair with his boss, Dixie Carter, leading to AJ, professional athlete and all, being knocked out by Dixie's non-wrestling husband. Dixie revealed that in reality she and AJ were secretly giving aid to a pregnant drunkard crackhead named Claire Lynch, but Daniels and Kaz apparently knew about this the entire time and quickly revealed that AJ was the baby's father. AJ found this accusation so offensive that he demanded to wrestle Daniels in a match with the stipulation where he would admit to being the father if he lost or taking a [[DaddyDNATest paternity test]] to prove his innocence. Even though AJ won the match, the whole thing turned out to be a wash, as a woman posing as Claire's lawyer informed everyone that Daniels paid Claire to make the whole ridiculous story up. This could at least have worked to make him an even bigger heel but it was ''never mentioned again''. One would think Dixie Carter at least would discipline Daniels and Kaz someway after such a revelation, considering all the embarrassment their lies caused her and her company. The angle ran away with Website/WrestleCrap's [[http://www.wrestlecrap.com/inductions/claire-lynch-the-2012-gooker-award-winner/ Gooker award for the year]].
13th Nov '15 9:12:49 AM SomeoneElse17
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* The last-minute switch from the MEM to Fortune also had the unfortunate side-effect of completely castrating the Immortal [[PowerStable super-stable]]. By removing Styles, Kazarian, and Beer Money, the only active wrestlers left in Immortal were Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Jeff Jarrett, Abyss, Rob Terry, and Gunner and Murphy. In addition to losing the talent of the team, Kaz and Beer Money were the X-Division and Tag Team champions respectively, which means that there was no payoff to Immortal losing those belts, and the ramifications of Immortal losing the belts was hardly even brought up, if at all. On a side note, Kazarian won the belt from Jay Lethal after [[DudeNotFunny completely disrespecting Jay's entire family]], and not even a month later, Kazarian became a card-carrying babyface. It also forced Ric Flair to speed through an angle which would have made sense running over several weeks; what resulted was him icing all the members of Fortune in the back, then costing AJ Styles a match in the very next segment of the show. You would think Flair would have a harder time backstabbing the stable he created in the image of the Four Horsemen!
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* The last-minute switch from the MEM to Fortune also had the unfortunate side-effect of completely castrating the Immortal [[PowerStable super-stable]]. By removing Styles, Kazarian, and Beer Money, the only active wrestlers left in Immortal were Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Jeff Jarrett, Abyss, Rob Terry, and Gunner and Murphy. In addition to losing the talent of the team, Kaz and Beer Money were the X-Division and Tag Team champions respectively, which means that there was no payoff to Immortal losing those belts, and the ramifications of Immortal losing the belts was hardly even brought up, if at all. On a side note, Kazarian won the belt from Jay Lethal Wrestling/JayLethal after [[DudeNotFunny completely disrespecting Jay's entire family]], and not even a month later, Kazarian became a card-carrying babyface. It also forced Ric Flair to speed through an angle which would have made sense running over several weeks; what resulted was him icing all the members of Fortune in the back, then costing AJ Styles a match in the very next segment of the show. You would think Flair would have a harder time backstabbing the stable he created in the image of the Four Horsemen!
13th Nov '15 8:19:29 AM SomeoneElse17
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** What makes it worse is that immediately before he was {{kayfabe}} injured, Hardy defended his title against Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels, a man who (along with his tag team partner, Frankie Kazarian) was one of the most entertaining performers in TNA during 2012. Not only that, Daniels is a longtime veteran of TNA who has always worked his ass off to give the fans a good show. If anybody ever deserved a run with the world title, it's Daniels. Prior to this, TNA seemed to want to keep the title on Hardy to keep him happy so he wouldn't go and sign with WWE. That's likely the reason they had the previous champ, Wrestling/AustinAries, drop it to him. Since Hardy wouldn't be able to visit the UK, however, there was no reason not to have him drop the title to Daniels (which would have made [[SmartMark smarks]] everywhere ''ecstatic'') right before the UK tour, let Daniels go into the UK as champ, and then have him drop the title back to Hardy immediately upon TNA's return to the United States. That way they could keep Hardy happy (probably), mollify the UK fans by at least giving them ''a'' world champion even if it wasn't the one advertised, and show some gratitude to a man who's done a lot for the company over the years. Instead? They let Hardy beat Daniels clean and then hog the belt for the next few weeks while doing absolutely nothing.
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** What makes it worse is that immediately before he was {{kayfabe}} injured, Hardy defended his title against Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels, a man who (along with his tag team partner, Frankie Kazarian) Wrestling/FrankieKazarian) was one of the most entertaining performers in TNA during 2012. Not only that, Daniels is a longtime veteran of TNA who has always worked his ass off to give the fans a good show. If anybody ever deserved a run with the world title, it's Daniels. Prior to this, TNA seemed to want to keep the title on Hardy to keep him happy so he wouldn't go and sign with WWE. That's likely the reason they had the previous champ, Wrestling/AustinAries, drop it to him. Since Hardy wouldn't be able to visit the UK, however, there was no reason not to have him drop the title to Daniels (which would have made [[SmartMark smarks]] everywhere ''ecstatic'') right before the UK tour, let Daniels go into the UK as champ, and then have him drop the title back to Hardy immediately upon TNA's return to the United States. That way they could keep Hardy happy (probably), mollify the UK fans by at least giving them ''a'' world champion even if it wasn't the one advertised, and show some gratitude to a man who's done a lot for the company over the years. Instead? They let Hardy beat Daniels clean and then hog the belt for the next few weeks while doing absolutely nothing.
18th Aug '15 10:53:50 PM Matt913
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"Bryan", not "Brad".
'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl4cydshTGo#t=1100s Brad]]''': If you don't outlive 'em, Vinny. (You might wanna go to the doctor tomorrow.)\\
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'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nl4cydshTGo#t=1100s Brad]]''': Bryan]]''': If you don't outlive 'em, Vinny. (You might wanna go to the doctor tomorrow.)\\
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