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1st Jan '17 8:10:05 AM Gorank
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** It opened with the FBI (consisting of [[Wrestling/LittleGuidoMaritato [Little]]] Guido Maritato, Tony [Mama]Luke, and Tracy Smothers, with Sal E. Graziano) versus Kid Kash, Simon Diamond, and Swinger in a six-man tag team match which ended in...[[GratuitousDiscoSequence a dance battle.]] This is extreme.

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** It opened with the FBI (consisting of [[Wrestling/LittleGuidoMaritato [Little]]] [[[Wrestling/LittleGuidoMaritato Little]]] Guido Maritato, Tony [Mama]Luke, and Tracy Smothers, with Sal E. Graziano) versus Kid Kash, Simon Diamond, and Swinger in a six-man tag team match which ended in...[[GratuitousDiscoSequence a dance battle.]] This is extreme.
1st Jan '17 2:41:30 AM Gimere
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* In 2010, for the second year in a row, TNA held the title of "Worst PPV of the Year", and in this case possibly one of the worst of all time, with the first ''Hardcore Justice'' PPV. Despite being an Wrestling/{{ECW}} throwback, most of the old ECW stars had to [[WritingAroundTrademarks change their names in order to avoid trademark infringement]] (even then, announcers regularly slipped and brought up the copyrighted names of the wrestlers); and since WWE owns ECW lock stock and barrel, no footage of them could be shown, no entrance music could be played, Wrestling/JoeyStyles is literally WWE property, and even Wrestling/TheBlueMeanie's [=bWo=] shirts were now under copyright [[note]](which means Vince now owns a ''parody'' of a ''rival promotion'' by ''another'' rival promotion--which is sad, frankly)[[/note]]. More importantly, [[ContinuityLockout nobody born after 1990 knew what was going on]]. The ''In Memoriam'' couldn't mention anyone by name and instead went out to the "men and women" who gave their lives for this industry,

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* In 2010, for the second year in a row, TNA held the title of "Worst PPV of the Year", and in this case possibly one of the worst of all time, with the first ''Hardcore Justice'' PPV. Despite being an Wrestling/{{ECW}} throwback, most of the old ECW stars had to [[WritingAroundTrademarks change their names in order to avoid trademark infringement]] (even then, announcers regularly slipped and brought up the copyrighted names of the wrestlers); and since WWE owns ECW lock stock and barrel, no footage of them could be shown, no entrance music could be played, Wrestling/JoeyStyles is was literally WWE property, and even Wrestling/TheBlueMeanie's [=bWo=] shirts were now under copyright [[note]](which means Vince now owns a ''parody'' of a ''rival promotion'' by ''another'' rival promotion--which is sad, frankly)[[/note]]. More importantly, [[ContinuityLockout nobody born after 1990 knew what was going on]]. The ''In Memoriam'' couldn't mention anyone by name and instead went out to the "men and women" who gave their lives for this industry,



* A year later Joe was involved in another ridiculous angle at the beginning of 2010--[[{{Narm}} he got kidnapped by ninjas]]. This ultimately amounted to nothing, as the announcers barely discussed it, and his return had no explanation.

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* A year later At the beginning of 2010, Joe was involved in another ridiculous angle at the beginning of 2010--[[{{Narm}} angle--[[{{Narm}} he got kidnapped by ninjas]]. This ultimately amounted to nothing, as the announcers barely discussed it, and his return had no explanation.



* TNA's grievous mishandling of the Main Event Mafia "regrouping." TNA gave much promotion for the return of a group known only as "They" on 2/3/11. TNA newcomer Crimson came out in a suit, saying "they" made him [[AnOfferYouCantRefuse an offer he couldn't refuse]], and even had Wrestling/ScottSteiner make his TNA return the week before the reveal. In the meantime, however, TNA had not secured the contract of Wrestling/BookerT, kept fumbling with Wrestling/{{Sting}}'s (see below), and they granted Wrestling/KevinNash his release for whatever reason, allowing Booker and Nash to make triumphant returns at the ''Wrestling/RoyalRumble'' three days after the Steiner return aired. This of course, left TNA scrambling for alternates at the eleventh hour, and they instead turned to Fortune to make a HeelFaceTurn, which was a better move for the company anyway as it put four TNA originals in the spotlight for a change. Of course, this would have made more sense if TNA had not ran a segment where Crimson choked out AJ in the back, as well as another backstage segment in which Kurt Angle completely waffled Styles with a baseball bat.
* The last-minute switch from the MEM to Fortune also had the unfortunate side-effect of completely castrating the Immortal [[PowerStable super-stable]]. By removing Styles, [[Wrestling/FrankieKazarian Kazarian]], and Beer Money, the only active wrestlers left in Immortal were Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Jeff Jarrett, Abyss, Rob Terry, and Gunner and Murphy. In addition to losing the talent of the team, Kaz and Beer Money were the X-Division and Tag Team champions respectively, which means that there was no payoff to Immortal losing those belts, and the ramifications of Immortal losing the belts was hardly even brought up, if at all. On a side note, Kazarian won the belt from Wrestling/JayLethal after [[DudeNotFunny completely disrespecting Jay's entire family]], and not even a month later, Kazarian became a card-carrying babyface. It also forced Ric Flair to speed through an angle which would have made sense running over several weeks; what resulted was him icing all the members of Fortune in the back, then costing AJ Styles a match in the very next segment of the show. You would think Flair would have a harder time backstabbing the stable he created in the image of the Four Horsemen!

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* TNA's grievous mishandling of the Main Event Mafia "regrouping." TNA gave much promotion for the return of a group known only as "They" on 2/3/11. TNA newcomer Crimson came out in a suit, saying "they" made him [[AnOfferYouCantRefuse an offer he couldn't refuse]], and even had Wrestling/ScottSteiner make his TNA return the week before the reveal. In the meantime, however, TNA had not secured the contract of Wrestling/BookerT, kept fumbling with Wrestling/{{Sting}}'s (see below), and they granted Wrestling/KevinNash his release for whatever reason, allowing Booker and Nash to make triumphant returns to WWE at the ''Wrestling/RoyalRumble'' three days after the Steiner return aired. This of course, left TNA scrambling for alternates at the eleventh hour, and they instead turned to Fortune to make a HeelFaceTurn, which HeelFaceTurn [[note]](which was a better move for the company anyway anyway, as it put four TNA originals in the spotlight for a change.change)[[/note]]. Of course, this would have made more sense if TNA had not ran a segment where Crimson choked out AJ in the back, as well as another backstage segment in which Kurt Angle completely waffled Styles with a baseball bat.
* The last-minute switch from the MEM to Fortune also had the unfortunate side-effect of completely castrating the Immortal [[PowerStable super-stable]]. By removing Styles, [[Wrestling/FrankieKazarian Kazarian]], and Beer Money, the only active wrestlers left in Immortal were Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Jeff Jarrett, Abyss, Rob Terry, and Gunner and Murphy. In addition to losing the talent of the team, Kaz and Beer Money were the X-Division and Tag Team champions respectively, which means that there was no payoff to Immortal losing those belts, and the ramifications of Immortal losing the belts was hardly even brought up, if at all. On a side note, Kazarian won the belt from Wrestling/JayLethal after [[DudeNotFunny completely disrespecting Jay's entire family]], and not even a month later, Kazarian became a card-carrying babyface. It also forced Ric Flair to speed through an angle which would have made sense running over several weeks; what resulted was him icing all the members of Fortune in the back, then costing AJ Styles a match in the very next segment of the show. You would think Flair would have a harder time backstabbing the stable he created in the image of the Four Horsemen!Wrestling/TheFourHorsemen!



** Eric Young becoming World champion. First of all, he was still doing the stale "comedy" character, which makes it the equivalent of WWE having Santino win their world title - i.e. the one guy who shouldn't be the face of the company, being the face of the company. Secondly, there was no build to the title match beyond however much of the show took place between Young becoming number one contender & the opening bell to the title match, since it all happened on one show. But the most idiotic thing of all? It was just rehashing Daniel Bryan's title win from ''[=WrestleMania=] XXX'' (Y'know, '''the biggest pro-wrestling show of the year''') a few weeks earlier, and everyone promptly called TNA on this. [[note]](Bearded underdog wins opening match for title shot, goes into title match with injured arm but still wins title on same night he became #1 contender. The big difference being people were screaming at WWE to let Bryan be champion for a year while people were hoping Young would be getting time to rebuild after being one half of the Knockout Tag Team Champions)[[/note]]. Regardless of what you think of Young, this was a terrible way to book his first world championship win.

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** Eric Young becoming World champion. First of all, he was still doing the stale "comedy" character, which makes it the equivalent of WWE having Santino win their world title - i.e. the one guy who shouldn't be the face of the company, being the face of the company. Secondly, there was no build to the title match beyond however much of the show took place between Young becoming number one contender & the opening bell to the title match, since it all happened on one show. But the most idiotic thing of all? It was just rehashing Daniel Bryan's title win from ''[=WrestleMania=] XXX'' (Y'know, '''the biggest pro-wrestling show of the year''') a few weeks earlier, and everyone promptly called TNA on this. [[note]](Bearded underdog wins opening match for title shot, goes into title match with injured arm but still wins title on same night he became #1 contender. The big difference being people were screaming at WWE to let Bryan be champion for a year while people TNA fans were hoping Young would be getting get time to rebuild after being one half of the Knockout Knockouts Tag Team Champions)[[/note]]. Regardless of what you think of Young, this was a terrible way to book his first world championship win.



* TNA's decision to replace their iconic six-sided ring [[http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2619373/tna_wrestling_replaces_six_sided_ring.html?cat=14 with a traditional four-sided ring]] was met with universal disdain, as it essentially furthered TNA's transformation into a WWE knockoff. The change was meant to appeal to the new talent TNA hired (i.e. Wrestling/HulkHogan), and the TNA crowd wound up booing Hogan after the announcement was made. Hogan responded by saying "Real wrestling happens in a four-sided ring." Now there are some advantages to using a four-sided ring, particularly since many wrestlers are trained in them and they can allow for more protection from bumps; but the wrestlers at TNA had been using the six-sided style for years by that point, had to completely change their style, and weren't told about the change beforehand. Terry Bollea just enjoys throwing his weight around.
* TNA also made the brilliant decision to reenact the (sigh) Wrestling/MondayNightWars in the first half of 2010, [[AesopAmnesia apparently forgetting the outcome of that little skirmish]], ''and'' despite the fact that they have considerably worse ratings than WWE. This in itself was merely a poor business decision, but the angles that were run at the time were easily the worst angles in years, including the BadassDecay of Abyss reaching its low point, Orlando Jordan's bisexuality [[DepravedBisexual becoming an angle]], Ric Flair and Hogan's WWE Hall of Fame rings becoming [[WhoWouldWantToWatchUs more valuable that the actual TNA Championship]], Bubba the Love Sponge being there at all, Tag Team Championship reigns so bad they've made the title worthless, and the recreation of the [=nWo=] even though everyone involved is over the hill. Within six months, TNA had to switch back to Thursday nights, and actually lost viewers in the long run due to this decision.

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* TNA's decision to replace their iconic six-sided ring [[http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2619373/tna_wrestling_replaces_six_sided_ring.html?cat=14 with a traditional four-sided ring]] was met with universal disdain, as it essentially furthered TNA's transformation into a WWE knockoff. The change was meant to appeal to the new talent TNA hired (i.e. Wrestling/HulkHogan), and the TNA crowd wound up booing Hogan after the announcement was made. Hogan responded by saying "Real wrestling happens in a four-sided ring." Now there are ''are'' some advantages to using a four-sided ring, particularly since many wrestlers are trained in them and they ring [[note]](they can allow for more protection from bumps; bumps)[[/note]], but the wrestlers at TNA had been using the six-sided style for years by that point, had to completely change their style, and weren't ''weren't even told about the change beforehand.beforehand''. Terry Bollea just enjoys throwing his weight around.
* TNA also made the [[SarcasmMode brilliant decision decision]] to reenact the (sigh) Wrestling/MondayNightWars in the first half of 2010, [[AesopAmnesia apparently forgetting the outcome of that little skirmish]], ''and'' despite the fact that they have considerably worse ratings than WWE. This in itself was merely a poor business decision, but the angles that were run at the time were easily the worst angles in years, including the BadassDecay of Abyss reaching its low point, Orlando Jordan's bisexuality [[DepravedBisexual becoming an angle]], Ric Flair and Hogan's WWE Hall of Fame rings becoming [[WhoWouldWantToWatchUs more valuable that the actual TNA Championship]], Bubba the Love Sponge being there at all, Tag Team Championship reigns so bad they've made the title worthless, and the recreation of [[Wrestling/NewWorldOrder the [=nWo=] nWo]] even though everyone involved is over the hill. Within six months, TNA had to switch back to Thursday nights, and actually lost viewers in the long run due to this decision.



* [[Wrestling/NewWorldOrder The nWo]] reformed yet again under the name The Band (a pun) and won the Tag Team Championship, even though key members had pretty much lost it following years of drug abuse.

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* [[Wrestling/NewWorldOrder The nWo]] [=nWo=] reformed yet again under the name The Band (a pun) and won the Tag Team Championship, even though key members had pretty much lost it following years of drug abuse.
28th Oct '16 2:48:15 AM WillBGood
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* TNA also made the [[SarcasmMode brilliant decision]] to reenact the (sigh) Wrestling/MondayNightWars in the first half of 2010, [[AesopAmnesia apparently forgetting the outcome of that little skirmish]], ''and'' despite the fact that they have considerably worse ratings than WWE. This in itself was merely a poor business decision, but the angles that were run at the time were easily the worst angles in years, including the BadassDecay of Abyss reaching its low point, Orlando Jordan's bisexuality [[DepravedBisexual becoming an angle]], Ric Flair and Hogan's WWE Hall of Fame rings becoming [[WhoWouldWantToWatchUs more valuable that the actual TNA Championship]], Bubba the Love Sponge being there at all, Tag Team Championship reigns so bad they've made the title worthless, and the recreation of the [=nWo=] even though everyone involved is over the hill. Within six months, TNA had to switch back to Thursday nights, and actually lost viewers in the long run due to this decision.

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* TNA also made the [[SarcasmMode brilliant decision]] decision to reenact the (sigh) Wrestling/MondayNightWars in the first half of 2010, [[AesopAmnesia apparently forgetting the outcome of that little skirmish]], ''and'' despite the fact that they have considerably worse ratings than WWE. This in itself was merely a poor business decision, but the angles that were run at the time were easily the worst angles in years, including the BadassDecay of Abyss reaching its low point, Orlando Jordan's bisexuality [[DepravedBisexual becoming an angle]], Ric Flair and Hogan's WWE Hall of Fame rings becoming [[WhoWouldWantToWatchUs more valuable that the actual TNA Championship]], Bubba the Love Sponge being there at all, Tag Team Championship reigns so bad they've made the title worthless, and the recreation of the [=nWo=] even though everyone involved is over the hill. Within six months, TNA had to switch back to Thursday nights, and actually lost viewers in the long run due to this decision.



* And what did ''Series/JerseyShore''[='=]s J-Woww do during her one appearance? Get into a backstage catfight with Cookie[[note]](newcomer Becky Bayless as a Snooki lookalike)[[/note]], the valet of new wrestler Robbie E[[note]](a Paulie D parody)[[/note]]. [[SarcasmMode Truly, money well spent]]. And what show did the morons run her segment up against? '''''Jersey Shore'''''.

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* And what did ''Series/JerseyShore''[='=]s J-Woww do during her one appearance? Get into a backstage catfight with Cookie[[note]](newcomer Becky Bayless as a Snooki lookalike)[[/note]], the valet of new wrestler Robbie E[[note]](a Paulie D parody)[[/note]]. [[SarcasmMode Truly, money well spent]]. And what show did the morons run her segment up against? '''''Jersey Shore'''''.



* Anyone remember the summer of 2013 when the Main Event Mafia feuded with the Aces and Eights? Remember when TNA added Rampage Jackson into MEM, and that video teasing August 1st which was the debut of someone in TNA? Do you then remember that person being [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRAdWcfpM_Y Tito Ortiz?]] Yup Tito joining the Aces and Eights was just a stunt for their upcoming fight in Bellator. This is why both of them got pulled from TNA to avoid injury. The kicker? [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Tito got injured anyway]] making everything involving these two in TNA pointless! [[SarcasmMode That's just great...]]

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* Anyone remember the summer of 2013 when the Main Event Mafia feuded with the Aces and Eights? Remember when TNA added Rampage Jackson into MEM, and that video teasing August 1st which was the debut of someone in TNA? Do you then remember that person being [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRAdWcfpM_Y Tito Ortiz?]] Yup Tito joining the Aces and Eights was just a stunt for their upcoming fight in Bellator. This is why both of them got pulled from TNA to avoid injury. The kicker? [[RealLifeWritesThePlot Tito got injured anyway]] making everything involving these two in TNA pointless! [[SarcasmMode That's just great...]]pointless!
25th Oct '16 9:25:00 AM Crashlander555
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* You'd think that once [[Music/TheSmashingPumpkins Billy Corgan]] took over, things would get better, right? Not a chance. It was revealed that TNA is 3.4 million dollars in debt, and they're getting sued from all sides. Taxes, credit card bills, hell, '''Corgan himself is suing!'''
15th Oct '16 8:19:25 PM nombretomado
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** During a {{Twitter}} war with Warrior, Hogan's self-discipline slipped a little and he referenced the Monday Night Wars on his {{Facebook}} page:

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** During a {{Twitter}} war with Warrior, Hogan's self-discipline slipped a little and he referenced the Monday Night Wars on his {{Facebook}} Website/{{Facebook}} page:
11th Oct '16 5:18:10 AM AFreakyDude
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* Bubba the Love Sponge's stint in TNA is regarded by many as ''the'' low point in TNA's history, as the [[DumbassDJ popular radio shock jock]] relentlessly tried to put himself over, hogged the spotlight, and acted like an asshole on and off-camera, culminating in his infamous quote disparaging the victims of the 2010 Haitian earthquake--which made Awesome Kong mad enough to [[TalkToTheFist beat him senseless.]] Then Bubba deliberately set Kong up to appear on a "rival" radio show, only to ambush and harass her with a multitude of racial slurs and other insults. In the end, they both got fired. Proving there is a God, Bubba's final moment onscreen consisted of Mick Foley punching him in the face. Who hired this clown? [-[[Wrestling/HulkHogan Oh, right]].-]

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* [[FatBastard Bubba the Love Sponge's Sponge]]'s stint in TNA is regarded by many as ''the'' low point in TNA's history, as the [[DumbassDJ popular radio shock jock]] relentlessly tried to put himself over, hogged the spotlight, and acted like an asshole on and off-camera, culminating in his infamous quote disparaging the victims of the 2010 Haitian earthquake--which made Awesome Kong mad enough to [[TalkToTheFist beat him senseless.]] Then Bubba deliberately set Kong up to appear on a "rival" radio show, only to ambush and harass her with a multitude of racial slurs and other insults. In the end, they both got fired. Proving there is a God, Bubba's final moment onscreen consisted of Mick Foley punching him in the face. Who hired this clown? [-[[Wrestling/HulkHogan Oh, right]].-]
13th Sep '16 7:57:44 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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** Severe talent and money mismanagement. In interviews, she always goes on about how [[{{Hypocrite}} loyalty is important in TNA]] when she's never shown any of that to the roster. Taylor Wilde admitted as Knockouts Champion that her pay was so marginal she had to work a second job, and Jesse Neal qualified for food stamps to support himself and his fiancée. Even Wrestling/GailKim was paid not even a third of what WWE had offered to pay her in 2008, during her amazing feud with [[Wrestling/KiaStevens Awesome Kong]].

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** Severe talent and money mismanagement. In interviews, she always goes on about how [[{{Hypocrite}} loyalty is important in TNA]] when she's never shown any of that to the roster. Taylor Wilde Wrestling/TaylorWilde admitted as Knockouts Champion that her pay was so marginal she had to work a second job, and Jesse Neal qualified for food stamps to support himself and his fiancée. Even Wrestling/GailKim was paid not even a third of what WWE had offered to pay her in 2008, during her amazing feud with [[Wrestling/KiaStevens Awesome Kong]].
13th Sep '16 7:27:02 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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** The whole gang was a joke when it was revealed who the members were. You had Devon, a past his prime D'lo Brown, Garrett Bischoff and Wes Brisco [[{{Nepotism}} who are only employed because of their dads]], DOC (Luke Gallows in WWE), and Knux (Mike Knox in WWE)--not really threatening, are they? Not even Bully Ray for all his work and mic skill can make this believable.

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** The whole gang was a joke when it was revealed who the members were. You had Devon, a past his prime D'lo Brown, Garrett Bischoff and Wes Brisco [[{{Nepotism}} who are only employed because of their dads]], DOC Wrestling/{{DOC|Gallows}} (Luke Gallows in WWE), and Knux (Mike Knox in WWE)--not really threatening, are they? Not even Bully Ray for all his work and mic skill can make this believable.
8th Sep '16 4:56:10 PM OnGreenDolphinStreet
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'''''Important Note #1''''': If something bad was an isolated incident or simply stupid, it does not make the whole thing Horrible. Merely being offensive in its subject matter is not enough to justify a work as So Bad It's Horrible. Hard as it is to imagine at times, there's a market for all types of deviancy (no matter how small a niche it is). It has to ''fail to appeal even to that niche'' to qualify as this.

'''''Important Note #2''''': If you're here to mention the fact that TNA isn't hardcore all the time and proceed to say that's not how Wrestling/{{ECW}} played (as TNA had most of the same wrestlers), please don't--despite its name, ECW wasn't always all hardcore all the time, as evidenced by the Malenko/Guerrero matches. It's pointless to even talk about TNA vs. ECW since it was always a ReplacementScrappy for WCW.

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'''''Important Note #1''''': Notes''''':

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If something bad was an isolated incident or simply stupid, it does not make the whole thing Horrible. Merely being offensive in its subject matter is not enough to justify a work as So Bad It's Horrible. Hard as it is to imagine at times, there's a market for all types of deviancy (no matter how small a niche it is). It has to ''fail to appeal even to that niche'' to qualify as this.

'''''Important Note #2''''': # If you're here to mention the fact that TNA isn't hardcore all the time and proceed to say that's not how Wrestling/{{ECW}} played (as TNA had most of the same wrestlers), please don't--despite its name, ECW wasn't always all hardcore all the time, as evidenced by the Malenko/Guerrero matches. It's pointless to even talk about TNA vs. ECW since it was always a ReplacementScrappy for WCW.
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