History Horrible / TNA

22nd Aug '17 11:01:41 AM smasll_lordvoice
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* [[FatBastard Bubba the Love Sponge]]'s stint in TNA is regarded by many as ''the'' low point in TNA's history, as the [[DumbassDJ popular radio shock jock]] relentlessly tried to put himself over, hogged the spotlight, and acted like an asshole on and off-camera, culminating in his infamous quote disparaging the victims of the 2010 Haitian earthquake--which made Awesome Kong mad enough to [[TalkToTheFist beat him senseless.]] Then Bubba deliberately set Kong up to appear on a "rival" radio show, only to ambush and harass her with a multitude of racial slurs and other insults. In the end, they both got fired. Proving there is a God, Bubba's final moment onscreen consisted of Mick Foley punching him in the face. Who hired this clown? [-[[Wrestling/HulkHogan Oh, right]].-]

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* [[FatBastard Bubba the Love Sponge]]'s stint in TNA is regarded by many as ''the'' low point in TNA's history, as the [[DumbassDJ popular radio shock jock]] relentlessly tried to put himself over, hogged the spotlight, and acted like an asshole on and off-camera, culminating in his infamous quote disparaging the victims of the 2010 Haitian earthquake--which made Awesome Kong mad enough to [[TalkToTheFist beat him senseless.]] Then Bubba deliberately set Kong up to appear on a "rival" radio show, only to ambush and harass her with a multitude of racial slurs and other insults. In the end, they both got fired. Proving there is a God, Bubba's final moment onscreen consisted of [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome Mick Foley punching him in the face.face,]] [[EnforcedMethodActing apparently for real]]. Who hired this clown? [-[[Wrestling/HulkHogan Oh, right]].-]
20th Jul '17 8:48:01 AM CallousGoose
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* The TNA Legends Championship, which later became the Global Championship, then the Television Championship. Confused yet? This title, pretty much willed into existence by Booker T, is easily the most pointless, extraneous, and convoluted yet. It was perpetually loaded with bullshit rules that, among other things, prevented huge chunks of the roster from competing, much less getting the belt. Many of these rules were utterly arbitrary or based on things that could not be quantified, making the belt inherently pointless--for example, Eric Young, then a nigh-unknown, won it during the Legends era, when only "legends" could compete. Americans couldn't win the title in America during the Global period, but Rob Terry, a Welshman, won it in Wales, then lost it to AJ Styles, an American, in ''Florida.'' It was then {{retcon}}ned into being the Television title, which would have to be defended each week. He only defended it five times total, the fifth on Pay-Per-View. An attempt to go back to the rules in 2012 ended in two weeks with the title holder's contract expiring. In the meantime it was passed between wrestlers for the most pointless of reasons, before eventually going back to Eric Young, who holds it and the original World Championship belt. By this point it had lost all reason to exist. After Abyss won it at Slammiversary XI in June 2013, it wasn't referenced until Kurt Angle declared the title inactive on an episode of ''Impact''...thirteen months later. In July 2015 it would resurface in the hands of Wrestling/JeffJarrett as "The King Of The Mountain" title.

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* The TNA Legends Championship, which later became the Global Championship, then the Television Championship. Confused yet? This title, pretty much willed into existence by Booker T, is easily the most pointless, extraneous, and convoluted yet. It was perpetually loaded with bullshit rules that, among other things, prevented huge chunks of the roster from competing, much less getting the belt. Many of these rules were utterly arbitrary or based on things that could not be quantified, making the belt inherently pointless--for example, Eric Young, then a nigh-unknown, won it during the Legends era, when only "legends" could compete. Americans couldn't win the title in America during the Global period, but Rob Terry, a Welshman, won it in Wales, then lost it to AJ Styles, an American, in ''Florida.'' It was then {{retcon}}ned into being the Television title, which would have to be defended each week. He only defended it five times total, the fifth on Pay-Per-View. An attempt to go back to the rules in 2012 ended in two weeks with the title holder's contract expiring. In the meantime it was passed between wrestlers for the most pointless of reasons, before eventually going back to Eric Young, who holds it and the original World Championship belt. By this point it had lost all reason to exist. After Abyss won it at Slammiversary XI in June 2013, it wasn't referenced until Kurt Angle declared the title inactive on an episode of ''Impact''...thirteen months later. In July 2015 it would resurface in the hands of Wrestling/JeffJarrett as "The King Of The Mountain" title.title and would have one more run (even appearing in Global Force Wrestling during a talent exchange partnership) up until August 12, 2016 when the title was retired yet again and replaced with the GFW Grand Championship. Thus ends the TNA Television Championship's confusing, contrived and nonsensical 8 year long odyssey. But you never know, it is TNA after all, it just might come back again someday.
26th Jun '17 8:24:59 PM TheDeadSkin
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* Also that night Wrestling/RicFlair admits he's banged a horse. This originated, believe it or not, back in 2001, on the second-to-last epside of Wrestling/WCWMondayNitro, when Wrestling/DustyRhodes made him kiss a donkey. [[DontExplainTheJoke Geddit? Kiss ass?]]

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* Also that night Wrestling/RicFlair admits he's banged a horse. This originated, was a really obscure reference to, believe it or not, back in 2001, on the second-to-last epside episode of Wrestling/WCWMondayNitro, when ''Wrestling/WCWMondayNitro'', where Wrestling/DustyRhodes made him kiss a donkey. [[DontExplainTheJoke Geddit? Kiss ass?]]As in, he kissed ass.]]
23rd Jun '17 4:47:29 PM bubzilla
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* You'd think that once [[Music/TheSmashingPumpkins Billy Corgan]] took over, things would get better, right? Not a chance. It was revealed that TNA is 3.4 million dollars in debt, and they're getting sued from all sides. Taxes, credit card bills, hell, '''Corgan himself sued her and the company!''' While Corgan lost the case, this resulted in Dixie finally, '''''finally''''' being ousted from being in charge of TNA, as she sold majority ownership to Anthem Sports and Entertainment (the owners of Fight Network), who left her with a '''''5%''''' ownership of the company as her only remaining tie to it.

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* You'd think that once [[Music/TheSmashingPumpkins Billy Corgan]] took over, things would get better, right? Not a chance. It was revealed that TNA is 3.4 million dollars in debt, and they're getting sued from all sides. Taxes, credit card bills, hell, '''Corgan himself sued her and the company!''' While Corgan lost the case, this resulted in Dixie finally, '''''finally''''' being ousted from being in charge of TNA, as she sold majority ownership to Anthem Sports and Entertainment (the owners of Fight Network), who left her with a '''''5%''''' ownership of the company and a token position within the company as far away from any actual corporate decision making as her only remaining tie to it.
26th May '17 9:03:13 AM JamesAustin
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Long story short, Dixie Carter should be studied in business/accounting/acting classes around the world as a demonstration subject of what ''not'' to do. It was generally agreed upon Smarks as long as she was charge thar TNA would continue to run as the laughingstock of the professional wrestling world, and even WWE in its current direction, while also suffering from bad product and booking quality, isn't as godforsakenly awful as compared to TNA. Just don't give her anything bigger than an Etsy store or a lemonade stand; and even then, it's possible that one day later, the lemonade stand would be several million dollars in debt and the subject of many legal battles. Now, for the long story:

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Long story short, Dixie Carter should be studied in business/accounting/acting classes around the world as a demonstration subject of what ''not'' to do. It was generally agreed upon Smarks as long as she was in charge thar that TNA would continue to run as the laughingstock of the professional wrestling world, and even WWE in its current direction, while also suffering from bad product and booking quality, isn't as godforsakenly awful as compared to TNA. Just don't give her anything bigger than an Etsy store or a lemonade stand; and even then, it's possible that one day later, the lemonade stand would be several million dollars in debt and the subject of many legal battles. Now, for the long story:



* You'd think that once [[Music/TheSmashingPumpkins Billy Corgan]] took over, things would get better, right? Not a chance. It was revealed that TNA is 3.4 million dollars in debt, and they're getting sued from all sides. Taxes, credit card bills, hell, '''Corgan himself sued her and the company!'''

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* You'd think that once [[Music/TheSmashingPumpkins Billy Corgan]] took over, things would get better, right? Not a chance. It was revealed that TNA is 3.4 million dollars in debt, and they're getting sued from all sides. Taxes, credit card bills, hell, '''Corgan himself sued her and the company!'''company!''' While Corgan lost the case, this resulted in Dixie finally, '''''finally''''' being ousted from being in charge of TNA, as she sold majority ownership to Anthem Sports and Entertainment (the owners of Fight Network), who left her with a '''''5%''''' ownership of the company as her only remaining tie to it.
26th May '17 8:51:15 AM JamesAustin
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* Don't give her anything bigger than an Etsy store or a lemonade stand.
-->''One day later, lemonade stand is several million dollars in debt and the subject of many legal battles.''
** It is generally agreed upon Smarks that as long as she's in charge, TNA will continue to run as the laughingstock of the professional wrestling world, and even WWE in its current direction, while also suffering from bad product and booking quality, isn't this godforsakenly awful compared to TNA.
** Her background is in PR, not wrestling or even business as such. So it figures about the only thing she does right is playing hostess at house shows: glad-handing fans, posing for photos, etc. For this, she [[PhotoOpWithTheDog remained a beloved figure in the IWC]] even as her morbid inadequacies are apparent, though even that eventually crashed and burned once she became an onscreen character and her awfulness was on display for all to see, at which point only the most hardcore TNA fans were willing to defend her. She always came across as a 16-year-old girl pretending to be a corporate professional, except that [[InsultToRocks 16-year-olds learn from their mistakes.]]
** An infamous promo of hers after ''Bound for Glory 2009'' where she told the roster to "step it up" and improve their game, in a time when TNA was working to restore itself and had been putting on rather good shows and matches. Then came the changeover. Carter, who puts the "rat" in "desperate", was promised a new Monday Night War and big dollars in exchange for giving over creative control of her company to Bischoff and Hogan, because that always ends well. Any amount of research beyond "Hulk Hogan! I know that name!" should have made her think twice.
** Her constant self-insertion into angles, even [[DullSurprise without any charisma or mic skills.]]
** Severe talent and money mismanagement. In interviews, she always goes on about how [[{{Hypocrite}} loyalty is important in TNA]] when she's never shown any of that to the roster. Wrestling/TaylorWilde admitted as Knockouts Champion that her pay was so marginal she had to work a second job, and Jesse Neal qualified for food stamps to support himself and his fiancée. Even Wrestling/GailKim was paid not even a third of what WWE had offered to pay her in 2008, during her amazing feud with [[Wrestling/KiaStevens Awesome Kong]].
** Most of the money that ''should'' go to the wrestlers goes to a bunch of Z-list celebrities and past-their-prime wrestlers who don't add anything to the product -- Jenna Morasca, who competed in '''that''' ''Victory Road'' match, was paid $500,000 during her time in TNA, and J-Woww from ''Series/JerseyShore'', who showed up for one night to stink up the joint, was paid $10,000 at a minimum.
** J-Woww encouraged any curious fans on Twitter to watch ''Jersey Shore'' on MTV instead of tuning in to see her on Spike. Despite this, TNA would try to bring her back to feud with another ''Jersey Shore'' cast member, Angelina Pivarnick. Pivarnick got $7000 to be in what turned out to be the lowest rated segment of the Impact she participated in.
** Hulk Hogan, in particular was paid $140,000 a month - more than most guys on the roster make year-round.

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* Don't give her anything bigger than an Etsy store or a lemonade stand.
-->''One day later, lemonade stand is several million dollars
Long story short, Dixie Carter should be studied in debt and business/accounting/acting classes around the world as a demonstration subject of many legal battles.''
**
what ''not'' to do. It is was generally agreed upon Smarks that as long as she's in charge, she was charge thar TNA will would continue to run as the laughingstock of the professional wrestling world, and even WWE in its current direction, while also suffering from bad product and booking quality, isn't this as godforsakenly awful as compared to TNA.
**
TNA. Just don't give her anything bigger than an Etsy store or a lemonade stand; and even then, it's possible that one day later, the lemonade stand would be several million dollars in debt and the subject of many legal battles. Now, for the long story:
*
Her background is in PR, not wrestling or even business as such. So it figures about the only thing she does right is playing hostess at house shows: glad-handing fans, posing for photos, etc. For this, she [[PhotoOpWithTheDog remained a beloved figure in the IWC]] even as her morbid inadequacies are apparent, though even that eventually crashed and burned once she became an onscreen character and her awfulness was on display for all to see, at which point only the most hardcore TNA fans were willing to defend her. She always came across as a 16-year-old girl pretending to be a corporate professional, except that [[InsultToRocks 16-year-olds learn from their mistakes.]]
** * An infamous promo of hers after ''Bound for Glory 2009'' where she told the roster to "step it up" and improve their game, in a time when TNA was working to restore itself and had been putting on rather good shows and matches. Then came the changeover. Carter, who puts the "rat" in "desperate", was promised a new Monday Night War and big dollars in exchange for giving over creative control of her company to Bischoff and Hogan, because that always ends well. Any amount of research beyond "Hulk Hogan! I know that name!" should have made her think twice.
** * Her constant self-insertion into angles, even [[DullSurprise without any charisma or mic skills.]]
** * Severe talent and money mismanagement. In interviews, she always goes on about how [[{{Hypocrite}} loyalty is important in TNA]] when she's never shown any of that to the roster. Wrestling/TaylorWilde admitted as Knockouts Champion that her pay was so marginal she had to work a second job, and Jesse Neal qualified for food stamps to support himself and his fiancée. Even Wrestling/GailKim was paid not even a third of what WWE had offered to pay her in 2008, during her amazing feud with [[Wrestling/KiaStevens Awesome Kong]].
** * Most of the money that ''should'' go to the wrestlers goes to a bunch of Z-list celebrities and past-their-prime wrestlers who don't add anything to the product -- Hulk Hogan in particular was paid $140,000 a month - more than most guys on the roster make year-round; Jenna Morasca, who competed in '''that''' ''Victory Road'' match, was paid $500,000 during her time in TNA, TNA; and J-Woww from ''Series/JerseyShore'', who showed up for one night to stink up the joint, was paid $10,000 at a minimum.
** * J-Woww encouraged any curious fans on Twitter to watch ''Jersey Shore'' on MTV instead of tuning in to see her on Spike. Despite this, TNA would try to bring her back to feud with another ''Jersey Shore'' cast member, Angelina Pivarnick. Pivarnick got $7000 to be in what turned out to be the lowest rated segment of the Impact she participated in.
** Hulk Hogan, in particular was paid $140,000 a month - more than most guys on the roster make year-round.
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* Jesse Sorensen's case is a notable one. He was signed in 2011, being built up as a strong contender to Austin Aries's X Division Championship. But then at the 2012 edition of ''Against All Odds'', Jesse got his neck damaged by a top-rope moonsault from Zema Ion. This caused panic among his fans and family, fearing he would never walk again. Soon after, Dixie approached Jesse's mother, assuring her that TNA would take care of the situation. But it was not to be: She never did anything about it, leaving Jesse and his family to pay his medical bills, which amounted to hundreds of thousands of dollars. While he was still employed in TNA's management, his pay was so low that he had to work two different jobs as well, just so he could cover the expenses. His mother had to sell her restaurant and file for bankruptcy. All this while Hulk Hogan, his daughter Brooke, and Eric Bischoff were being paid $35,000 a week.
--->'''[[http://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/2cjv1a/the_stupidity_of_tna_volume_1/ Redditor]]''': When I read about Hogan and Bischoff's run in TNA, it reminds me of those two guys that were in your class and thought they were hot shit because they were older than everyone else. Yeah, they're older and probably tougher than everyone else in the class but in the end, you can't help but pity them because [[GloryDays they've been left back so many times.]]
** And then Jesse was [[ShaggyDogStory fired in 2013]] because of budget cuts. With a company that treats the people who work for and sacrifice their bodies for them that way, the hopes for them going out of business aren't without merit.

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* Jesse Sorensen's case is a notable one. He was signed in 2011, being built up as a strong contender to Austin Aries's X Division Championship. But then at the 2012 edition of ''Against All Odds'', Jesse got his neck damaged by a top-rope moonsault from Zema Ion. This caused panic among his fans and family, fearing he would never walk again. Soon after, Dixie approached Jesse's mother, assuring her that TNA would take care of the situation. But it was not to be: She never did anything about it, leaving Jesse and his family to pay his medical bills, which amounted to hundreds of thousands of dollars. While he was still employed in TNA's management, his pay was so low that he had to work two different jobs as well, just so he could cover the expenses. His mother had to sell her restaurant and file for bankruptcy. And then Jesse was [[ShaggyDogStory fired in 2013]] because of budget cuts. All this while Hulk Hogan, his daughter Brooke, and Eric Bischoff were being paid $35,000 a week.
--->'''[[http://www.
week. With a company that treats the people who work for and sacrifice their bodies for them that way, the hopes for them going out of business aren't without merit.
-->'''[[http://www.
reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/2cjv1a/the_stupidity_of_tna_volume_1/ Redditor]]''': When I read about Hogan and Bischoff's run in TNA, it reminds me of those two guys that were in your class and thought they were hot shit because they were older than everyone else. Yeah, they're older and probably tougher than everyone else in the class but in the end, you can't help but pity them because [[GloryDays they've been left back so many times.]]
** And then Jesse was [[ShaggyDogStory fired in 2013]] because of budget cuts. With a company that treats the people who work for and sacrifice their bodies for them that way, the hopes for them going out of business aren't without merit.
]]



* You'd think that once [[Music/TheSmashingPumpkins Billy Corgan]] took over, things would get better, right? Not a chance. It was revealed that TNA is 3.4 million dollars in debt, and they're getting sued from all sides. Taxes, credit card bills, hell, '''Corgan himself is suing!'''

to:

* You'd think that once [[Music/TheSmashingPumpkins Billy Corgan]] took over, things would get better, right? Not a chance. It was revealed that TNA is 3.4 million dollars in debt, and they're getting sued from all sides. Taxes, credit card bills, hell, '''Corgan himself is suing!'''sued her and the company!'''
26th May '17 8:37:25 AM JamesAustin
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* Ok, so we've gone a while with Jeff Hardy as champ. Even if you ignore the incredibly stupid stuff that got him there. The past couple pay-per views have had Matt Morgan and Hardy fight it out for the Championship. Then, at the Final Resolution pay-per-view on Sunday, Dec 5, 2010 Hardy shows up and is messed up, allegedly from [[BlatantLies traveling too much]]. Also, on Wednesday of that week he's got a court date where he is facing serious charges for possession of opiates and cocaine. So, might TNA have him drop the title in order to ensure that their World Champion not suddenly find himself in jail? No, they don't--they let him keep it, and then tape the next few weeks of Impact in advance so they can go on Christmas break. And it does not even seem as if he's going to drop it at the next pay-per-view. Also, how the heck does TNA determine who's the number one contender? It seems to always be whomever is most convenient.
* Advance one month to TNA's first PPV of 2011, Genesis, on January 9, 2011. To start things off, Jeff Hardy was not billed as defending his title on the PPV at all. However, immediately after a rather mediocre #1 Contender Match that saw Ken Anderson defeat Matt Morgan, Eric Bischoff came out and announced the title match would be done immediately. Anderson then proceeded to no-sell two Twists of Hate and a Swanton Bomb (and Mr. Anderson was in the middle of a concussion storyline) before pinning Jeff Hardy for the title, but not before a number of attempted run-ins. All to cap off a PPV that's been largely derided as a contender for Worst PPV of 2011.
** Hilariously enough, Anderson wore Jeff Hardy's customized clown-shaped belt as TNA World Champion. What happened to the old belt that actually looked like a championship? Eric Young found in the trash (sounds about right) and now considers himself the TNA World Champion because this is exactly what your title needs to build legitimacy.

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* Ok, so we've gone a while with Jeff Hardy as champ. Even if you ignore the incredibly stupid stuff that got him there. The past couple pay-per views have had Matt Morgan and Hardy fight it out for the Championship. Then, at the Final Resolution pay-per-view on Sunday, Dec 5, 2010 Hardy shows up and is messed up, allegedly from [[BlatantLies traveling too much]]. Also, on Wednesday of that week he's got a court date where he is facing serious charges for possession of opiates and cocaine. So, might TNA have him drop the title in order to ensure that their World Champion not suddenly find himself in jail? No, they don't--they let him keep it, and then tape the next few weeks of Impact in advance so they can go on Christmas break. And it does not even seem as if he's going to drop it at the next pay-per-view. Also, how the heck does TNA determine who's the number one contender? It seems to always be whomever is most convenient.
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* Advance one month to TNA's first PPV of 2011, Genesis, on January 9, 2011. To start things off, Jeff Hardy was not billed as defending his title on the PPV at all. However, immediately after a rather mediocre #1 Contender Match that saw Ken Anderson defeat Matt Morgan, Eric Bischoff came out and announced the title match would be done immediately. Anderson then proceeded to no-sell two Twists of Hate and a Swanton Bomb (and Mr. Anderson was in the middle of a concussion storyline) before pinning Jeff Hardy for the title, but not before a number of attempted run-ins. All to cap off a PPV that's been largely derided as a contender for Worst PPV of 2011.
**
2011. Hilariously enough, Anderson wore Jeff Hardy's customized clown-shaped belt as TNA World Champion. What happened to the old belt that actually looked like a championship? Eric Young found in the trash (sounds about right) and now considers himself the TNA World Champion because this is exactly what your title needs to build legitimacy.



* This is not related to Jeff being champion, but this '''HAD''' to be mentioned on here. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jzScgAhSt0 This promo]]...[[{{Narm}} no words]] can describe it.
25th May '17 3:37:29 PM candleeater
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It is generally agreed upon Smarks that as long as she's in charge, TNA will continue to run as the laughingstock of the professional wrestling world, and even WWE in its current direction, while also suffering from bad product and booking quality, isn't this godforsakenly awful compared to TNA.

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** It is generally agreed upon Smarks that as long as she's in charge, TNA will continue to run as the laughingstock of the professional wrestling world, and even WWE in its current direction, while also suffering from bad product and booking quality, isn't this godforsakenly awful compared to TNA.
25th May '17 3:37:10 PM candleeater
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* Dixie Carter should be studied in business/accounting/acting classes around the world as a demonstration of what ''not'' to do. It is generally agreed upon Smarks that as long as she's in charge, TNA will continue to run as the laughingstock of the professional wrestling world, and even WWE in its current direction, while also suffering from bad product and booking quality, isn't this godforsakenly awful compared to TNA.

to:

* Dixie Carter should be studied *Don't give her anything bigger than an Etsy store or a lemonade stand.
-->''One day later, lemonade stand is several million dollars
in business/accounting/acting classes around debt and the world as a demonstration subject of what ''not'' to do.many legal battles.''
It is generally agreed upon Smarks that as long as she's in charge, TNA will continue to run as the laughingstock of the professional wrestling world, and even WWE in its current direction, while also suffering from bad product and booking quality, isn't this godforsakenly awful compared to TNA.
19th May '17 11:20:12 PM nombretomado
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** During a {{Twitter}} war with Warrior, Hogan's self-discipline slipped a little and he referenced the Monday Night Wars on his Website/{{Facebook}} page:

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** During a {{Twitter}} Website/{{Twitter}} war with Warrior, Hogan's self-discipline slipped a little and he referenced the Monday Night Wars on his Website/{{Facebook}} page:
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