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* ''VideoGame/ShirenTheWanderer: The Mystery Dungeon of Serpentcoil Island'' opens with Shiren facing down the FinalBoss and [[FlunkyBoss a swarm of mooks]] armed with only 30 levels, some decent equipment, and a randomized assortment of goodies in your satchel. Subverted in that if you know what you're doing and are lucky enough to get strong items in your bag, it is possible (albeit extremely unlikely) to win, which instantly unlocks the PostEndGameContent and alters many subsequent story scenes.
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXVI'': Clive loses his first battle again Barnabas due to CutsceneIncompetence, but the second battle is one of these. The boss's defenses, health pool and stagger gauge are so high so that it is impossible for the player to deal any significant damage before he can unleash his FinishingMove.
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* The Website/{{Newgrounds}} flash game ''Mobile Weapon'' contains an example of this. At some point in the game, you fight Fleet Commander Ariel Highwater in her mecha, Serra Superion. The mecha has ridiculous health and power and will maim your party within a few hits. However, you don't lose the game: you merely need to repair your own mechas after the battle. You'll never hear from her again. The battle actually subverts the trope - if you grind a lot of monsters to level up to maximum level and stack up on repair items before facing her, she becomes the {{Superboss}} instead. She will still be, by far, the hardest boss in the game. Defeating her will not alter the plot at all, as she will just run away from you. You will, however, get a [[SelfImposedChallenge great sense of accomplishment from beating a very hard boss]]. Oh, and the [[InfinityPlusOneSword infinity plus one grenade launcher]] too.

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* The Website/{{Newgrounds}} Platform/{{Newgrounds}} flash game ''Mobile Weapon'' contains an example of this. At some point in the game, you fight Fleet Commander Ariel Highwater in her mecha, Serra Superion. The mecha has ridiculous health and power and will maim your party within a few hits. However, you don't lose the game: you merely need to repair your own mechas after the battle. You'll never hear from her again. The battle actually subverts the trope - if you grind a lot of monsters to level up to maximum level and stack up on repair items before facing her, she becomes the {{Superboss}} instead. She will still be, by far, the hardest boss in the game. Defeating her will not alter the plot at all, as she will just run away from you. You will, however, get a [[SelfImposedChallenge great sense of accomplishment from beating a very hard boss]]. Oh, and the [[InfinityPlusOneSword infinity plus one grenade launcher]] too.
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* ''VideoGame/StarShiftRebellion'': In Moletown's Operations Center, [[spoiler:Chronus-13, Zeron, and Relnor dive into the mainframe, but Kern intercepts them. All of Kern's attacks deal enough damage to kill a party member several times over while he has 65000 HP, making it impossible to win. Afterwards, the party is forced to escape, but not before Kern copies Zeron's Molarian data]].
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** Act 1 of ''VideoGame/DragonQuestXI'' ends with one against [[spoiler:Jasper]], as none of your attacks will hit through the shroud of malice the boss's sword gives off. The battle automatically ends after an HPToOne attack on the whole party.
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* ''VideoGame/WorldOfHorror'' has a special enemy encounter, known as [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast "Something Truly Evil"]]. You can't fight it, and it won't let you simply escape from it. Your only options are "Suffer For Me" ([[CastFromHP sacrifice 2 Stamina]]), "Cry For Me" ([[CastFromSanity sacrifice 2 Reason]]), "Bleed For Me" (reduce your Stamina to 3), and "Give Up For Me" (reduce your Reason to 3), as well as hope and pray that you satisfy it enough to let you escape before you die or go insane from it. Alternately, you can select "[[PressXToDie Die For Me]]"...

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* ''VideoGame/WorldOfHorror'' has a special enemy encounter, known as [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast "Something Truly Evil"]]. You can't fight it, and it won't let you simply escape from it. Your only options are "Suffer For Me" ([[CastFromHP sacrifice 2 Stamina]]), "Cry For Me" ([[CastFromSanity sacrifice 2 Reason]]), "Bleed For Me" (reduce your Stamina to 3), and "Give Up For Me" (reduce your Reason to 3), as well as hope and pray that you satisfy it enough to let you escape before you die or go insane from it.it (and even then, it can return). Alternately, you can select "[[PressXToDie Die For Me]]"...

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** ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'': Seen in Ventus's story when you fight [[spoiler:Vanitas]] for the first time in the badlands, as soon as he is down to one HP the game ends the battle. Later, [[spoiler:Micky teams up with Ventus]] and the fight is winnable.

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** ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'': Seen in Ventus's story when you fight [[spoiler:Vanitas]] for the first time in the badlands, as soon as he is down to one HP the game ends the battle. Later, [[spoiler:Micky [[spoiler:Mickey teams up with Ventus]] and the fight is winnable.winnable.
** ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsIII'': The ''Re+Mind'' DLC has a rare instance where this trope applies to a {{Superboss}}. Like Leon and Cloud back in the first game, the Secret Episode battle with [[spoiler:Yozora]] is technically winnable, but losing plays a cutscene rather than handing you a Game Over (at least the first time; replaying gives you the Continue screen for ease of trying again).
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* ''VideoGame/LisaTheHopeful'': One of the MultipleEndings ends with a boss fight in which the player character is grievously wounded, his skills and even basic attack is disabled, and the boss dodges any thrown items. [[spoiler:Predictably, Cyclops's AttemptedRape of Five results in his swift demise]].
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* The DOS Dutch freeware RPG VideoGame/{{Avalon|1998}} has one, in the first fight against [[SdrawkcabName Esor Amreh]]. As soon as you get him down to below 2000 HP, he instantly KO's you with a "Dark Poison", leading to you recovering in Caddman's house. Once you obtain the antidote to the poison, you can fight him again and defeat him.

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* The DOS Dutch freeware RPG VideoGame/{{Avalon|1998}} ''VideoGame/{{Avalon|1998}}'' has one, in the first fight against [[SdrawkcabName Esor Amreh]]. As soon as you get him down to below 2000 HP, he instantly KO's you with a "Dark Poison", leading to you recovering in Caddman's house. Once you obtain the antidote to the poison, you can fight him again and defeat him.
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* The DOS Dutch freeware RPG [[{{VideoGame/Avalon}} Avalon]] has one, in the first fight against [[SdrawkcabName Esor Amreh]]. As soon as you get him down to below 2000 HP, he instantly KO's you with a "Dark Poison", leading to you recovering in Caddman's house. Once you obtain the antidote to the poison, you can fight him again and defeat him.

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* The DOS Dutch freeware RPG [[{{VideoGame/Avalon}} Avalon]] VideoGame/{{Avalon|1998}} has one, in the first fight against [[SdrawkcabName Esor Amreh]]. As soon as you get him down to below 2000 HP, he instantly KO's you with a "Dark Poison", leading to you recovering in Caddman's house. Once you obtain the antidote to the poison, you can fight him again and defeat him.
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** The game also has two types of these: Fights that are just ''really, really'' hard to win, and fights that you can't win at all (because the boss' HP won't go down). This can become downright ridiculous, like the first fight against [[spoiler:Commander Brute]]. Cue a long string of "Impressive !" as he flinches constantly under your attacks... without losing any HP. During the second encounter, he doesn't get any stat buff but loses that plot invincibility. CurbStompBattle [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome ensues]].

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** The game also has two types of these: Fights that are just ''really, really'' hard to win, and fights that you can't win at all (because the boss' HP won't go down). This can become downright ridiculous, like the first fight against [[spoiler:Commander Brute]]. Cue a long string of "Impressive !" as he flinches constantly under your attacks... without losing any HP. During the second encounter, he doesn't get any stat buff but loses that plot invincibility. CurbStompBattle [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome ensues]].ensues.
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* ''VideoGame/ViewFromBelow'': In Soul Gate Tower, [[spoiler:the first battle with the Crimson God cannot be won, since Ash is too scared to take any action. Once Ash is reduced to one HP, Iris whisks him away to the Fallen Temple]].
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** Right after the end of Chapter 4, the [[BigBad Wasp King]] leads an attack on the Ant Kingdom to steal one of the artifacts Team Snakemouth found. He has no clear HP (you aren't even allowed to use [[EnemyScan Spy]] on him, but Spy Specs will reveal that his health is at 999 for this encounter), his regular attack hits hard, and after a few turns he uses fire magic that is a OneHitKO on the party.

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** Right after the end of Chapter 4, the [[BigBad Wasp King]] leads an attack on the Ant Kingdom to steal one of the artifacts Team Snakemouth found. He has no clear HP (you aren't even allowed to use [[EnemyScan Spy]] on him, but Spy Specs will reveal that his health is at 999 for this encounter), his regular attack hits hard, and after a few turns he uses fire magic that is a OneHitKO on the party. [[https://lpbeach.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=642&sid=c54e38a5e94f33a5a41f15e1df43603d&start=80#p10476 This post provides further analysis regarding this trope and why it works here]].
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** One of the ''.hack'' novels also features [[HeroKiller The]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast One Sin]], an [[BonusBoss event boss]] that many players of the game thought was Hopeless. It turned out to be a particularly intricate PuzzleBoss which doubles as an JustForFun/{{egregious}} case of ThatOneBoss (probably to the point where if TV Tropes exists in the .hack {{verse}} and some of the players were Tropers, they'd probably think that it's an exception to the BonusBoss rule for ThatOneBoss!), and the two players who defeated it (Orca and Balmung) gained [[UltimateGamer386 extreme notoriety.]]

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** One of the ''.hack'' novels also features [[HeroKiller The]] [[NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast The One Sin]], an [[BonusBoss event boss]] boss that many players of the game thought was Hopeless. It turned out to be a particularly intricate PuzzleBoss which doubles as an JustForFun/{{egregious}} case of ThatOneBoss (probably to the point where if TV Tropes exists in the .hack {{verse}} and some of the players were Tropers, they'd probably think that it's an exception to the BonusBoss rule for ThatOneBoss!), ThatOneBoss, and the two players who defeated it (Orca and Balmung) gained [[UltimateGamer386 extreme notoriety.]]



** In the Japanese version of ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork6CybeastGregarAndCybeastFalzar'', you can't touch BonusBoss [[VideoGame/{{Boktai}} Count of Groundsoaking Blood]] until you go on a sidequest related to his game.

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** In the Japanese version of ''VideoGame/MegaManBattleNetwork6CybeastGregarAndCybeastFalzar'', you can't touch BonusBoss [[VideoGame/{{Boktai}} Count of Groundsoaking Blood]] until you go on a sidequest related to his game.



* The Website/{{Newgrounds}} flash game ''Mobile Weapon'' contains an example of this. At some point in the game, you fight Fleet Commander Ariel Highwater in her mecha, Serra Superion. The mecha has ridiculous health and power and will maim your party within a few hits. However, you don't lose the game: you merely need to repair your own mechas after the battle. You'll never hear from her again. The battle actually subverts the trope - if you grind a lot of monsters to level up to maximum level and stack up on repair items before facing her, she becomes the BonusBoss instead. She will still be, by far, the hardest boss in the game. Defeating her will not alter the plot at all, as she will just run away from you. You will, however, get a [[SelfImposedChallenge great sense of accomplishment from beating a very hard boss]]. Oh, and the [[InfinityPlusOneSword infinity plus one grenade launcher]] too.

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* The Website/{{Newgrounds}} flash game ''Mobile Weapon'' contains an example of this. At some point in the game, you fight Fleet Commander Ariel Highwater in her mecha, Serra Superion. The mecha has ridiculous health and power and will maim your party within a few hits. However, you don't lose the game: you merely need to repair your own mechas after the battle. You'll never hear from her again. The battle actually subverts the trope - if you grind a lot of monsters to level up to maximum level and stack up on repair items before facing her, she becomes the BonusBoss {{Superboss}} instead. She will still be, by far, the hardest boss in the game. Defeating her will not alter the plot at all, as she will just run away from you. You will, however, get a [[SelfImposedChallenge great sense of accomplishment from beating a very hard boss]]. Oh, and the [[InfinityPlusOneSword infinity plus one grenade launcher]] too.



*** In the finale, you get a preview of the BonusBoss fight against Caroline and Justine. Unfortunately, they'll automatically reduce you to 1 HP in two turns, ending the battle.

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*** In the finale, you get a preview of the BonusBoss boss fight against Caroline and Justine. Unfortunately, they'll automatically reduce you to 1 HP in two turns, ending the battle.
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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' has the first fight with Odin. After a few turns of seemingly reasonable combat, he casts Will of Thunder ([[ArmorPiercingAttack makes Thunder-elemental attacks bypass resistances and immunities]]), Concentrate ([[ChargedAttack makes the next magic attack do 2.5 times more damage]]), and finally his SignatureMove, Thunder Reign ("severe"-level [[ShockAndAwe Thunder]] damage to all enemies), wiping your party instantly. There are several similar fights throughout the game but in those cases, [[SeeminglyHopelessBossFight something happens to turn the tide against the enemy at the last second]] -- no such luck here.

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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' has the first fight with Odin. After a few turns of seemingly reasonable combat, he casts Will of Thunder ([[ArmorPiercingAttack makes Thunder-elemental attacks bypass resistances and immunities]]), immunities]] until the end of his turn), Concentrate ([[ChargedAttack makes the next magic attack do 2.5 times more damage]]), and finally his SignatureMove, Thunder Reign ("severe"-level [[ShockAndAwe Thunder]] damage to all enemies), wiping your party instantly. There are several similar fights throughout the game but in those cases, [[SeeminglyHopelessBossFight something happens to turn the tide against the enemy at the last second]] -- no such luck here.
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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' has the first fight with Odin. After a few turns of seemingly reasonable combat, he casts Will of Thunder ([[ArmorPiercingAttack makes Thunder-elemental attacks bypass resistances and immunities]]), Concentrate ([[ChargedAttack makes the next magic attack do 2.5 times more damage]]), and finally SignatureMove, Thunder Reign ("severe"-level [[ShockAndAwe Thunder]] damage to all enemies), wiping your party instantly. There are several similar fights throughout the game but in those cases, [[SeeminglyHopelessBossFight something happens to turn the tide against the enemy at the last second]] -- no such luck here.

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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' has the first fight with Odin. After a few turns of seemingly reasonable combat, he casts Will of Thunder ([[ArmorPiercingAttack makes Thunder-elemental attacks bypass resistances and immunities]]), Concentrate ([[ChargedAttack makes the next magic attack do 2.5 times more damage]]), and finally his SignatureMove, Thunder Reign ("severe"-level [[ShockAndAwe Thunder]] damage to all enemies), wiping your party instantly. There are several similar fights throughout the game but in those cases, [[SeeminglyHopelessBossFight something happens to turn the tide against the enemy at the last second]] -- no such luck here.
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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' has the first fight with Odin. After a few turns of seemingly reasonable combat, he casts Charge ([[ChargedAttack makes the next attack do 2.5 times more damage]]), Will of Thunder ([[ArmorPiercingAttack makes Thunder-elemental attacks bypass resistances and immunities]]), and then finally obliterates your party with his SignatureMove, Thunder Reign ("severe"-level [[ShockAndAwe Thunder]] damage to all enemies). There are several similar fights throughout the game but in those cases, [[SeeminglyHopelessBossFight something happens to turn the tide against the enemy at the last second]] -- no such luck here.

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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' has the first fight with Odin. After a few turns of seemingly reasonable combat, he casts Charge ([[ChargedAttack makes the next attack do 2.5 times more damage]]), Will of Thunder ([[ArmorPiercingAttack makes Thunder-elemental attacks bypass resistances and immunities]]), Concentrate ([[ChargedAttack makes the next magic attack do 2.5 times more damage]]), and then finally obliterates your party with his SignatureMove, Thunder Reign ("severe"-level [[ShockAndAwe Thunder]] damage to all enemies).enemies), wiping your party instantly. There are several similar fights throughout the game but in those cases, [[SeeminglyHopelessBossFight something happens to turn the tide against the enemy at the last second]] -- no such luck here.
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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' has the first fight with Odin. After a few turns of seemingly reasonable combat, he casts Charge ([[ChargedAttack makes the next attack do 2.5 times more damage]]), Will of Thunder ([[ArmorPiercingAttack makes Thunder-elemental attacks bypass resistances and immunities]]), and then finally obliterates your party with his SignatureMove, Thunder Reign ("severe"-level [[ShockAndAwe Thunder]] damage to all enemies).

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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' has the first fight with Odin. After a few turns of seemingly reasonable combat, he casts Charge ([[ChargedAttack makes the next attack do 2.5 times more damage]]), Will of Thunder ([[ArmorPiercingAttack makes Thunder-elemental attacks bypass resistances and immunities]]), and then finally obliterates your party with his SignatureMove, Thunder Reign ("severe"-level [[ShockAndAwe Thunder]] damage to all enemies). There are several similar fights throughout the game but in those cases, [[SeeminglyHopelessBossFight something happens to turn the tide against the enemy at the last second]] -- no such luck here.
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** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIVApocalypse'' has the first fight with Odin. After a few turns of seemingly reasonable combat, he casts Charge ([[ChargedAttack makes the next attack do 2.5 times more damage]]), Will of Thunder ([[ArmorPiercingAttack makes Thunder-elemental attacks bypass resistances and immunities]]), and then finally obliterates your party with his SignatureMove, Thunder Reign ("severe"-level [[ShockAndAwe Thunder]] damage to all enemies).
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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyII'': During the first battle, you get beaten senseless by a band of [[BlackKnight Black Knights]]. Different versions vary, but whether you see a cutscene or not, you're on a path to a battle you can't avoid, can't run from, and can't win.

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* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyII'': During the first battle, you get beaten senseless by a band of [[BlackKnight Black Knights]]. Different versions vary, but whether you see a cutscene or not, you're on a path to a battle you can't avoid, can't run from, and can't win. Hacking the game to boost your stats to high enough levels will boot you back to the title screen (in Dawn of Souls) since you changed the whole plot.
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* Near the end of ''VideoGame/FossilFighters'' you have to face the police chief [[spoiler:who's actually the boss of the criminal organization you've been facing.]] His dinosaur that he summons has max evasion so every attack you throw at it will miss. Though it isn't superpowered the fact that you can't hit it makes it a Hopeless Boss Fight.

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* Near the end of ''VideoGame/FossilFighters'' ''VideoGame/FossilFighters'', you have to face the police chief [[spoiler:who's actually the boss of the criminal organization you've been facing.]] His facing]] a second time. The dinosaur that he summons summons, Frigisaurus has max evasion so every attack you throw at it will miss, and even support effects and status effects miss. Though it isn't superpowered overpowered, the fact that you can't hit it makes it a Hopeless Boss Fight.HopelessBossFight. It's not until you get Ignosaur that the rematch is winnable.
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** ''VideoGame/MightAndMagic IX'' had an interesting take on the Hopeless Boss Fight, that may have actually been kind of cool if the whole game hadn't been released as a [[ObviousBeta shoddy rush job]]. To defeat the game's BigBad, a god of chaos named Njam the Meddler (sort of an {{Expy}} of Loki) the [=PCs=] first had to trick him into chasing them to the [[TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon Tomb of a Thousand Terrors]]. They then had to make their way through the place, which had deadly booby traps and the most lethal monsters in the game, until they got to the final room, where they could activate a lever that would imprison Njam forever. Of course, Njam was trying to stop them the whole time, and he'd appear out of nowhere at random times. Trying to fight him was suicide, as you couldn't harm him, but if you just avoided him long enough, he'd disappear and you'd have at least a few minutes before he'd attack again.

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** ''VideoGame/MightAndMagic IX'' had an interesting take on the Hopeless Boss Fight, that may have actually been kind of cool if the whole game hadn't been released as a [[ObviousBeta shoddy rush job]]. IX'': To defeat the game's BigBad, a god of chaos named Njam the Meddler (sort of an {{Expy}} of Loki) the [=PCs=] first had to trick him into chasing them to the [[TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon Tomb of a Thousand Terrors]]. They then had to make their way through the place, which had deadly booby traps and the most lethal monsters in the game, until they got to the final room, where they could activate a lever that would imprison Njam forever. Of course, Njam was trying to stop them the whole time, and he'd appear out of nowhere at random times. Trying to fight him was suicide, as you couldn't harm him, but if you just avoided him long enough, he'd disappear and you'd have at least a few minutes before he'd attack again.
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* ''VideoGame/BlueArchive'' has at least two, both in Volume 2 Chapter 2. [[spoiler:Rio's Avant Garde robot proves to be much too powerful for your students to adequately damage, then once it's dealt with there's Toki in her Abi-Eshuh PoweredArmor, which draws upon the energy of the "fortress city" she's fought in to make the necessary calculations that let her [[NoSell dodge everything thrown at her]]]].
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** The first battle against [[spoiler:the Cloud of Darkness]] is unwinnable, and they will use the Particle Beam attack against the party, dealing 9999 damage points.
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'': With sufficient LevelGrinding it is possible to win the majority of the hopeless boss fights. If you defeat Kain the first time you fight him, the game [[HeadsIWinTailsYouLose pretends you lost]]. If you defeat the Dark Elf without the Twin Harp, it sets the game back to before the battle. The only fights that are unwinnable under any circumstances are those in which a) the player does not have control of the characters, or b) the fight ends [[ScriptedEvent regardless of how you're doing]].

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** The first battle against [[spoiler:the Cloud of Darkness]] is unwinnable, and they she will use the Particle Beam attack against the party, dealing 9999 damage points.
* ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'': With sufficient LevelGrinding it is possible to win the majority of the hopeless boss fights. If you defeat Kain the first time you fight him, the game [[HeadsIWinTailsYouLose pretends you lost]]. If you defeat the Dark Elf without the Twin Harp, Whisperweed, it sets the game back to before the battle. The only fights that are unwinnable under any circumstances are those in which a) the player does not have control of the characters, or b) the fight ends [[ScriptedEvent regardless of how you're doing]].
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* At the end of the tutorial for ''VideoGame/MortalShell'', you face off against the RecurringBoss Hadern in a duel. While you ''can'' technically win if you've adapted to the game's combat system really, ''really'' quickly, the odds are stacked heavily against you- Hadern has [[MirrorBoss all your capabilities]], plus the Mechanical Spike upgrade for the Hallowed Blade that you don't have, as well as appropriately boss-level HP. After he beats you, you get transported to the game's starting area, but on the slim chance you beat ''him'' you get an achievement and a valuable Glimpse of Reverie as a reward before being transported to the same place anyway.

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* At the end of the tutorial for ''VideoGame/MortalShell'', you face off against the RecurringBoss Hadern in a duel. While you ''can'' technically win if you've adapted to the game's combat system really, ''really'' quickly, the odds are stacked heavily against you- Hadern has [[MirrorBoss all your capabilities]], plus the Mechanical Spike upgrade for the Hallowed Blade that you don't have, as well as appropriately boss-level HP.HP, while your only source of healing is the 2 extra Mortal Tokens found during the tutorial (which are arguably TooAwesomeToUse unless you're ''really'' certain you can win with them). After he beats you, you get transported to the game's starting area, but on the slim chance you beat ''him'' you get an achievement and a valuable Glimpse of Reverie as a reward before being transported to the same place anyway.
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* At the end of the tutorial for ''VideoGame/MortalShell'', you face off against the RecurringBoss Hadern in a duel. While you ''can'' technically win if you've adapted to the game's combat system really, ''really'' quickly, the odds are stacked heavily against you- Hadern has [[MirrorBoss all your capabilities]], plus the Mechanical Spike upgrade for the Hallowed Blade that you don't have, as well as appropriately boss-level HP. After he beats you, you get transported to the game's starting area, but on the slim chance you beat ''him'' you get an achievement and a valuable Glimpse of Reverie as a reward before being transported to the same place anyway.
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** The second phase of the second battle with Chronos is also meant to be such, as you aren't given any clues as to how to prevent him from using his time reversal technique [[note]]Just activate Ludger's Chromatus when he tries to use it[[/note]], which will result in the fight ending if he pulls it off successfully. However, if you manage to stop him, you're allowed to defeat him and get some EXP for your efforts, though the following cutscene is unchanged.

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** The second phase of the second battle with Chronos is also meant to be such, as you aren't given any clues as to how to prevent him from using his time reversal time-reversal technique [[note]]Just activate Ludger's Chromatus when he tries to use it[[/note]], which will result in the fight ending if he pulls it off successfully. However, if you manage to stop him, you're allowed to defeat him and get some EXP for your efforts, though the following cutscene is unchanged.
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** The second phase of the second battle with Khronos is also meant to be such, as you aren't given any clues as to how to prevent him from using his time reversal technique [[note]]Just activate Ludger's Corpse Shell when he tries to use it[[/note]], which will result in the fight ending if he pulls it off successfully. However, if you manage to stop him, you're allowed to defeat him and get some EXP for your efforts, though the following cutscene is unchanged.

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** The second phase of the second battle with Khronos Chronos is also meant to be such, as you aren't given any clues as to how to prevent him from using his time reversal technique [[note]]Just activate Ludger's Corpse Shell Chromatus when he tries to use it[[/note]], which will result in the fight ending if he pulls it off successfully. However, if you manage to stop him, you're allowed to defeat him and get some EXP for your efforts, though the following cutscene is unchanged.
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* ''VideoGame/{{Chest}}'': If Zong chooses to defy Prime Minister Andre in the flashback, the prime minister will use paralysis powder on Zong and beat him up in a scripted fight.
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* The DOS Dutch freeware RPG ''Avalon'' has one, in the first fight against [[SdrawkcabName Esor Amreh]]. As soon as you get him down to below 2000 HP, he instantly KO's you with a "Dark Poison", leading to you recovering in Caddman's house. Once you obtain the antidote to the poison, you can fight him again and defeat him.

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* The DOS Dutch freeware RPG ''Avalon'' [[{{VideoGame/Avalon}} Avalon]] has one, in the first fight against [[SdrawkcabName Esor Amreh]]. As soon as you get him down to below 2000 HP, he instantly KO's you with a "Dark Poison", leading to you recovering in Caddman's house. Once you obtain the antidote to the poison, you can fight him again and defeat him.

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