History HonorBeforeReason / VideoGames

15th Sep '17 10:01:15 AM Berrenta
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** The Zealots take this '''especially''' far in ''VideoGame/{{Halo 2}}''. The [[WordofGod Word of God]] at the time was that these officers had a honour code that prohibited them from using ranged weapons, and entering vehicles is considered cowardice. When you do get one as an ally, [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything giving him a gun will just result in him running up to enemies and bludgeoning them with it, and he will stubbornly refuse to enter any vehicle]]. Of course, they're still more dangerous than their subordinates because they're 8 foot aliens with a one-hit kill weapon; on Heroic, which is as close to realistic difficulty, unless if several marines focus fire on a single Zealot, he ''will'' reach lunging distance before his shields drop and he ''will'' annihilate the group of marines by himself.

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** The Zealots take this '''especially''' far in ''VideoGame/{{Halo 2}}''. The [[WordofGod Word of God]] WordOfGod at the time was that these officers had a honour code that prohibited them from using ranged weapons, and entering vehicles is considered cowardice. When you do get one as an ally, [[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything [[DevelopersForesight giving him a gun will just result in him running up to enemies and bludgeoning them with it, and he will stubbornly refuse to enter any vehicle]]. Of course, they're still more dangerous than their subordinates because they're 8 foot aliens with a one-hit kill weapon; on Heroic, which is as close to realistic difficulty, unless if several marines focus fire on a single Zealot, he ''will'' reach lunging distance before his shields drop and he ''will'' annihilate the group of marines by himself.
6th Sep '17 9:00:11 AM BeerBaron
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** Throughout the series, this is a trait of some of the more intelligent varieties of [[OurDemonsAreDifferent lesser Daedra]], including the [[LegionsOfHell Dremora]] and [[AmazonBrigade Golden Saints]]. Both are {{Proud Warrior Race}}s with arrogance and [[PunyEarthlings superiority toward mortals]] as associated traits. They don't always think things through and [[LeeroyJenkins prefer to attack issues head-on]], which, [[EliteMooks despite their power]], isn't always the best course of action.
27th Aug '17 12:06:45 PM Malady
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Quest for Glory 2}}'', a fighter faces TheDragon in a climactic swordfight, and quickly disarms him. If he chooses to kill his unarmed foe, instead of letting him have his sword back, the game treats it as a dishonorable act... even though TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt is due to happen ''in a few minutes,'' if the hero doesn't get a move on. The VGA fan remake is even more extreme in this regard; giving the sword back leads to a truly NintendoHard fight. Apparently, TheDragon waits until after you show him mercy to bust out the really nasty moves.
* In ''VideoGame/{{Romancing SaGa}}'', Lord Theodore is the leader of the Knights of the Dominion, and one of the few who still follows their code to the letter. Unfortunately, he is '''''so''''' convinced that he's '''''the''''' bastion [[JusticeWillPrevail of justice and honor]], '''''the''''' [[HolierThanThou last such bastion left in the Dominion]] that he constantly overcompensates for the failings of his kin, both real and imagined. Rather than leading by example, he becomes LawfulStupid incarnate.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Quest for Glory 2}}'', ''VideoGame/QuestForGloryII'', a fighter faces TheDragon in a climactic swordfight, and quickly disarms him. If he chooses to kill his unarmed foe, instead of letting him have his sword back, the game treats it as a dishonorable act... even though TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt is due to happen ''in a few minutes,'' if the hero doesn't get a move on. The VGA fan remake is even more extreme in this regard; giving the sword back leads to a truly NintendoHard fight. Apparently, TheDragon waits until after you show him mercy to bust out the really nasty moves.
* In ''VideoGame/{{Romancing SaGa}}'', ''VideoGame/RomancingSaGa'', Lord Theodore is the leader of the Knights of the Dominion, and one of the few who still follows their code to the letter. Unfortunately, he is '''''so''''' convinced that he's '''''the''''' bastion [[JusticeWillPrevail of justice and honor]], '''''the''''' [[HolierThanThou last such bastion left in the Dominion]] that he constantly overcompensates for the failings of his kin, both real and imagined. Rather than leading by example, he becomes LawfulStupid incarnate.
15th Jun '17 10:48:30 AM BeerBaron
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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': Dragons have an extreme sense of honour that guides their every action. A ''real'' dragon in a losing fight is expected to FaceDeathWithDignity and keep fighting to the bitter end, and will also always respond to challenges, even if they're clearly being led into a trap. {{Justified|Trope}} as [[DeathIsCheap dragons can only be permanently killed when a Dovahkiin absorbs their souls]], so they can afford to be a bit reckless. [[spoiler:When Alduin runs away from the Dovahkiin after their first fight, it leads to a lot of dragons questioning his authority; there's no shame in submitting to a superior foe, [[NoTrueScotsman but what kind of Dovah]] ''turns tail and flees'' when faced with one?]]

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* ''VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim'': ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** The ProudWarriorRace [[HornyVikings Nords]] place a high value on honor in their culture, which can, of course, lead to these issues. For instance, one of the core causes of the 4th Era Skyrim {{Civil War}} is that the secessionist Stormcloaks believe that the Empire sacrificed their honor and dignity by accepting the terms of the White-Gold Concordant with the [[AntiHumanAlliance Aldmeri Dominion]] to end the [[GreatOffscreenWar Great War]], particularly the provision outlawing Talos worship. ([[RealMenLoveJesus Talos is one of the most popular deities in modern Nord religion]].) On the other hand, Imperial loyalists among the Nords accept that the Empire (which was ''[[FounderOfTheKingdom founded by Talos]]'') has fallen on hard times, but believe that ''real'' honor means never abandoning an ally just because the going's gotten tough. Additionally, the Empire hasn't really bothered to even enforce those bans. Further, the Stormcloaks are painted as short-sighted in starting the Civil War, as both sides recognize that a second Great War with the Dominion is inevitable. Loyalists believe that a united Skyrim backing the Empire gives them the best chance of victory, while the Stormcloaks feel that a united Skyrim on its own has the best chance without being bogged down by the declining Empire.
** ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'' reveals that
Dragons have an extreme sense of honour honor that guides their every action. A ''real'' dragon in a losing fight is expected to FaceDeathWithDignity and keep fighting to the bitter end, and will also always respond to challenges, even if they're clearly being led into a trap. {{Justified|Trope}} {{Justified|Trope}}, as [[DeathIsCheap dragons can only be permanently killed when a Dovahkiin another Dragon (or Dragonborn) absorbs their souls]], so they can afford to be a bit reckless. [[spoiler:When Alduin runs away from the Dovahkiin [[PlayerCharacter Dragonborn]] after their first fight, it leads to a lot of many dragons questioning his authority; there's no shame in submitting to a superior foe, [[NoTrueScotsman but what kind of Dovah]] ''turns tail and flees'' when faced with one?]]
10th Jun '17 4:57:35 AM ironcommando
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** While several characters show signs of this, nowhere is it more apparent then in Colonel. By stubbornly refusing to allow his forces to be questioned by the Hunters due to his [[{{Hubris}} pride]], he is hugely responsible for the Fourth Maverick War, which leaves himself, his sister and the rest of Repliforce dead. In fact, he is one of the few villains from that game who is ''completely unsympathetic''.

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** While several characters show signs of this, nowhere is it more apparent then in Colonel. By stubbornly refusing to allow his forces to be questioned by the Hunters due to his [[{{Hubris}} pride]], he is hugely responsible for the Fourth Maverick War, which leaves himself, his sister and the rest of Repliforce dead. In fact, he is one of the few villains from that game who is ''completely unsympathetic''. [[spoiler: It's justified, however, [[AllThereInTheManual as stated in the manual]]-- he was built without the supposed capability of compassion and pacifism that he was supposed to have (that part went into Iris), thus he lacked the capability of peaceful reasoning]].
29th May '17 12:05:08 PM nombretomado
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* In ''WarriorsOrochi'', Pang De's version of this trope is so cliche that he's called out on this more than once -- hilariously, when one asks him what his "way of the warrior" even means, Pang De's explanation is basically repeating the concept. [[spoiler:It's especially off, and call-out-on-worthy, since he's on Orochi's side through Wei, particularly Cao Pi's aligning with Orochi. However, in the Battle of Shizugatake (Shu story) if the player manages to save enough Hojo officers and prevent defections he will recognize the conflict and agree to leave Wei/Orochi]].

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* In ''WarriorsOrochi'', ''VideoGame/WarriorsOrochi'', Pang De's version of this trope is so cliche that he's called out on this more than once -- hilariously, when one asks him what his "way of the warrior" even means, Pang De's explanation is basically repeating the concept. [[spoiler:It's especially off, and call-out-on-worthy, since he's on Orochi's side through Wei, particularly Cao Pi's aligning with Orochi. However, in the Battle of Shizugatake (Shu story) if the player manages to save enough Hojo officers and prevent defections he will recognize the conflict and agree to leave Wei/Orochi]].
8th Apr '17 9:33:58 AM nombretomado
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* Piston Hondo from ''PunchOut'' has a really bad habit of bowing before a match, being Japanese and all. [[CombatPragmatist You can punch him in the middle of his bowing to gain a start punch]]. He learns his lesson for the title defense match against him and will dodge and counter your punch if you try to do it again.

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* Piston Hondo from ''PunchOut'' ''VideoGame/PunchOut'' has a really bad habit of bowing before a match, being Japanese and all. [[CombatPragmatist You can punch him in the middle of his bowing to gain a start punch]]. He learns his lesson for the title defense match against him and will dodge and counter your punch if you try to do it again.
24th Feb '17 12:47:47 PM Chabal2
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* ''VideoGame/DawnOfWar II: Retribution'': The end of the Tyranid campaign mentions that the Blood Ravens were killed to the last defending their recruiting worlds (despite being a fleet-based chapter), refusing to retreat.
1st Feb '17 2:38:17 AM Dark_Lord_
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* One of the playable factions in ''VideoGame/WayOfTheSamurai4'' is the Prajna Movement; a group of xenophobic nationalists who want nothing more than to prevent western culture flowing into Japan. Despite knowing guns are superior to swords, they refuse to use them, as these are not weapons a true samurai would use in their eyes. Unfortunately for them, all other sides in the game's conflict have no qualms to use firearms.
17th Dec '16 4:37:44 PM Steven
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* Much of the backstory you learn about the nation of Ishgard in ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV'' leans heavily on tradition and honor. The Machinist job quests shows how the elite and most soldiers in general use spears, arrows, and swords for weapons against the dragon horde because they're are seen as more honorable (because their ancestors fought dragons with such weapons) than using a gun. The elite see guns that could empower the lowborn/poor and fear that the status quo would change if the lower class could be on equal footing with the high class. The Leatherworker quests post level 50 has a businesswoman trying to convince the knights that using leather armor can give adequate protection against dragons and provide warmth against the cold whereas their steel armor restricts movement and only makes freezing outside worse for the wearer. The knights kept rejecting her offer since they see steel armor as the standard that worked for them for centuries.
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