History HoYay / Batman

27th Oct '17 5:24:19 PM ArgonianLorekeeper
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* Taken to truly ridiculous levels in the ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' comic series written by Creator/JephLoeb (oh, and [[SlashFic as if that title wasn't putting it in neon lights either]]), in which pretty much every thought-caption that Superman and Batman had about each other was describing the other in the most ludicrously fawning tones about how the other really was the best hero ever, to the point where it really wasn't funny any more.
** [[http://www.shortpacked.com/blog/comic/book-7/08-the-cartoonist-proposes/supermanbatman/ Is too.]]
*** Amendment: not funny any more ''when Jeph Loeb himself does it''.
* The thing is, Loeb was by no means the first writer to make you doubt the heterosexuality of Superman and Batman. That honor goes to Doug Moench in [[http://the-isb.blogspot.com/2005/11/where-they-went-wrong-superman-and.html ''World's Finest'' #289]], also covered [[http://asylums.insanejournal.com/scans_daily/813229.html#cutid1 here]]. It starts off with the two seeking comfort in each other at the Fortress of Solitude one lonely night and Holy Mother of God, does it go downhill from there (or [[LampshadedDoubleEntendre uphill, depending on your point of view]]). It ends with - swear to God - tentacles, and the two of them embracing. And with dialogue like this (emphasis ''so'' not mine):

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* Taken to truly ridiculous levels in the ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' comic series written by Creator/JephLoeb (oh, and [[SlashFic as if that title wasn't putting it in neon lights either]]), in which pretty much every thought-caption that Superman and Batman had have about each other was is describing the other in the most ludicrously fawning tones about how the other really was is the best hero ever, to the point where it really wasn't nearly isn't funny any more.
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more. But as ''Webcomic/{{Shortpacked}}'' shows, [[http://www.shortpacked.com/blog/comic/book-7/08-the-cartoonist-proposes/supermanbatman/ Is too.it still is.]]
*** Amendment: not funny any more ''when Jeph Loeb himself does it''.
* The thing is, Loeb was by no means the first writer to make you doubt the heterosexuality of Superman and Batman. That honor goes to Doug Moench in [[http://the-isb.blogspot.com/2005/11/where-they-went-wrong-superman-and.html ''World's Finest'' #289]], also covered [[http://asylums.insanejournal.com/scans_daily/813229.html#cutid1 here]]. It starts off with the two seeking comfort in each other at the Fortress of Solitude one lonely night and Holy Mother of God, does it go downhill from there (or [[LampshadedDoubleEntendre uphill, depending on your point of view]]). It ends with - swear to God - tentacles, and the two of them embracing. And with dialogue like this (emphasis ''so'' not mine):is directly from the comic):
10th Oct '17 5:33:02 PM nombretomado
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* The suggestive drawings of the two by BruceTimm don't exactly serve to disprove the implications between them.

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* The suggestive drawings of the two by BruceTimm Creator/BruceTimm don't exactly serve to disprove the implications between them.
26th Sep '17 7:06:18 AM FuzzyBarbarian
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* In ''Dark Nights: Metal'', Clark says he recognises Bruce's heartbeat "almost as well as Lois'" and seems ''overtly'' defensive when he's tricked by Clayface and that ability is called into question.
29th Jun '17 12:25:23 AM FuzzyBarbarian
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* After Batman's "death" in ''Final Crisis'', Clark and Diana have a talk about how he felt about them. Clark thinks that Bruce only ''just'' tolerated him. Diana's response? Bruce ''loved'' Clark.
14th Feb '17 7:17:27 AM narm00
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* Lord knows [[http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=32&Itemid=50 where]] they got it [[http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=32&Itemid=50&limitstart=72 from]] but many people interpret ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' as having plenty of HoYay. One {{Moral Guardian|s}}, Frederic Wertham, famously claimed that it was "homosexual propaganda". Some later writers intentionally joked around with this.

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* Lord knows [[http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=32&Itemid=50 where]] where they got it [[http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=32&Itemid=50&limitstart=72 from]] from, but many people interpret ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' as having plenty of HoYay. One {{Moral Guardian|s}}, Frederic Wertham, famously claimed that it was "homosexual propaganda". Some later writers intentionally joked around with this.



* See also the relationship between Batman and the Joker in the new 52. Greg Capullo, the artist, says in an interview with the website Comick Book Resources (29th April 2015) :
---> “ In “Death of the Family,” using Scott’s [the writer's] words, we had a love story – Joker loves Batman.”

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* See also the relationship between Batman and the Joker in the new New 52. Artist Greg Capullo, the artist, Capullo says in an interview with the website Comick Comic Book Resources (29th April 2015) :
2015):
---> “ In “Death of the Family,” “In “ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily,” using Scott’s [the writer's] words, we had a love story – Joker loves Batman.”



** Steph and Cassandra Cain have plenty too.
14th Dec '16 9:24:07 AM smokeycut
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* Cassandra Cain and Harper Row have gotten their own fair share of LesYay. Whether it's Harper telling Cass how beautiful she looks, them constantly hugging and holding hands, the time they went to the ballet on a date while undercover, or the fact that Cassie apparently sleeps at Harper's apartment most nights. It helps that Harper is openly bisexual.
23rd Oct '16 12:42:26 PM nombretomado
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** GailSimone agrees. She's [[WordOfGod stated]] that far as she's concerned, ComicBook/BlackCanary is a non-practicing {{bi|TheWay}}sexual. And the above panel is from ''before'' she took over Comicbook/BirdsOfPrey.

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** GailSimone Creator/GailSimone agrees. She's [[WordOfGod stated]] that far as she's concerned, ComicBook/BlackCanary is a non-practicing {{bi|TheWay}}sexual. And the above panel is from ''before'' she took over Comicbook/BirdsOfPrey.
19th Aug '16 10:40:26 AM Monolaf317
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* {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d by Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} [[http://media.photobucket.com/image/harley%20batgirl/Insanely-Random/Cartoons/batgirlharley.jpg?o=7 once]], when she [[EnemyMine teamed up with Harley]]. Harley got her right back:
%% Found in [[http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/5275280.html 'Brave and the Bold Cartoon Officially Announced']]
---> '''Harley''': Oh, Ivy can't hurt me. She gave me a special shot once so we can play and I won't get sick at all.
--->'''Batgirl''': You mean you two...?
--->'''Harley''': What?
--->'''Batgirl''': You and Ivy are... well... *crosses her index and middle fingers in that "I'm implying you're in a relationship" gesture* friends...
--->'''Harley''': Yeah...?
--->'''Batgirl''': Y'know... friends... like...
--->'''Harley''': Like what everybody says about you and Supergirl?
--->'''Batgirl''': What?! Who says...? Forget it! Forget it!

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* {{Lampshade|Hanging}}d by Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} [[http://media.photobucket.com/image/harley%20batgirl/Insanely-Random/Cartoons/batgirlharley.jpg?o=7 once]], when she [[EnemyMine teamed up with Harley]]. Harley got her right back:
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'''Harley''': Oh, Ivy can't hurt me. She gave me a special shot once so we can play and I won't get sick at all.
--->'''Batgirl''': -->'''Batgirl''': You mean you two...?
--->'''Harley''': -->'''Harley''': What?
--->'''Batgirl''': -->'''Batgirl''': You and Ivy are... well... *crosses her index and middle fingers in that "I'm implying you're in a relationship" gesture* friends...
--->'''Harley''': -->'''Harley''': Yeah...?
--->'''Batgirl''': -->'''Batgirl''': Y'know... friends... like...
--->'''Harley''': -->'''Harley''': Like what everybody says about you and Supergirl?
--->'''Batgirl''': -->'''Batgirl''': What?! Who says...? Forget it! Forget it!
7th Jul '16 5:31:54 AM daffie
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* See also the relationship between Batman and the Joker in the new 52. Greg Capullo, the artist, says in an interview with the website Comick Book Resources (29th April 2015) :
---> “ In “Death of the Family,” using Scott’s [the writer's] words, we had a love story – Joker loves Batman.”
28th Jun '16 5:38:30 PM Doug86
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* There's a bit of HoYay between Bats and {{Superman}} as well, which was gloriously sent up in the Superman/Batman Annual #1 (Or, as [[CaptainErsatz Slade's parallel-universe twin]] called it, "Brokeback Titanic"). They even [[http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/1346854.html?#cutid1 share a bed]].

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* There's a bit of HoYay between Bats and {{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} as well, which was gloriously sent up in the Superman/Batman Annual #1 (Or, as [[CaptainErsatz Slade's parallel-universe twin]] called it, "Brokeback Titanic"). They even [[http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/1346854.html?#cutid1 share a bed]].



* The thing is, Loeb was by no means the first writer to make you doubt the heterosexuality of Superman and Batman. That honour goes to Doug Moench in [[http://the-isb.blogspot.com/2005/11/where-they-went-wrong-superman-and.html ''World's Finest'' #289]], also covered [[http://asylums.insanejournal.com/scans_daily/813229.html#cutid1 here]]. It starts off with the two seeking comfort in each other at the Fortress of Solitude one lonely night and Holy Mother of God, does it go downhill from there (or [[LampshadedDoubleEntendre uphill, depending on your point of view]]). It ends with - swear to God - tentacles, and the two of them embracing. And with dialogue like this (emphasis ''so'' not mine):

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* The thing is, Loeb was by no means the first writer to make you doubt the heterosexuality of Superman and Batman. That honour honor goes to Doug Moench in [[http://the-isb.blogspot.com/2005/11/where-they-went-wrong-superman-and.html ''World's Finest'' #289]], also covered [[http://asylums.insanejournal.com/scans_daily/813229.html#cutid1 here]]. It starts off with the two seeking comfort in each other at the Fortress of Solitude one lonely night and Holy Mother of God, does it go downhill from there (or [[LampshadedDoubleEntendre uphill, depending on your point of view]]). It ends with - swear to God - tentacles, and the two of them embracing. And with dialogue like this (emphasis ''so'' not mine):
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