History HoYay / AceAttorney

5th Jul '16 8:31:22 AM Chariset
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** When he meets Larry (who was the one who called him), he is carrying two items of incredible personal value, on loan from Phoenix -- his defense badge and the magatama. Even though he clearly thinks they're both ludicrous (especially the magatama), he remembers all the pertinent details and is able to use both of them, with nothing more than the minor misstep of calling the Psyche-Locks "Psycholocks."

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** When he meets Larry (who was the one who called him), he is carrying two items of incredible personal value, on loan from Phoenix -- Phoenix: his defense badge and the magatama. Even though he clearly thinks they're both ludicrous (especially the magatama), he remembers all the pertinent details and is able to use both of them, them capably, with nothing more than the minor misstep of calling the Psyche-Locks "Psycholocks."" It's suggested that the only reason he would bother to remember such stuff is because Phoenix was the one who told him.



*** The ''Dual Destinies'' trial itself is full of characters making quips about how close the two lawyers are. Even Fulbright, [[spoiler: an emotionless killer]], comments that they exemplify the phrase "close enough to argue." Later, Phoenix needles Edgeworth about his aesthetic sense weakening along with his eyesight (Edgey now wears glasses), which Edgeworth is not amused by. The Judge steps in to smooth things over, assuring Edgeworth that the defence is only concerned about his ocular health. And when the trial is over, Athena comments on their "love-hate" relationship. Add it all up, and it seems that quite a few people in-game seem to regard the face-off between the two lawyers as a marital spat.
*** At the end of ''Dual Destinies'' Phoenix mentions that it's Edgeworth that stepped in to speed up the process of getting his Attorney's badge back because it was too easy a process. Edgeworth admits he has a lot of [[IOweYouMyLife debts]] to pay up to Phoenix. There's also the bit where Phoenix tells Edgeworth he should smile more and Edgeworth tells him (while smirking) that he'll think about it.

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*** The ''Dual Destinies'' trial itself is full of characters making quips about how close the two lawyers are. Even Fulbright, [[spoiler: an emotionless killer]], comments that they exemplify the phrase "close enough to argue." Later, Phoenix needles Edgeworth about his aesthetic sense weakening along with his eyesight (Edgey now wears glasses), which and Edgeworth is not amused by.amused. The Judge steps in to smooth things over, assuring Edgeworth that the defence is only concerned about his ocular health. And when When the trial is over, Athena comments on their "love-hate" relationship. Add it all up, and it seems that quite a few people in-game seem to regard the face-off between the two lawyers as a marital spat.
*** At the end of ''Dual Destinies'' Phoenix mentions has realized that it's Edgeworth that stepped in to speed up the process of getting his Attorney's badge back him reinstated because it was too easy a process. Edgeworth hadn't mentioned this or tried to take credit for it, but he admits he has a lot of [[IOweYouMyLife debts]] to pay up to Phoenix. Phoenix. He says the same in the end credits, since he now owes Phoenix ''again'' for helping acquit Blackquill, but swears to repay him someday (while doing his head-tilted half smile pose). There's also the bit where Phoenix tells Edgeworth that the frown lines on his forehead are getting too deep and he should smile more and more; Edgeworth tells him (while smirking) that he'll think about it.it.



*** And the anime introduces a shared set of trinkets (the Signal Samurai) owned by Phoenix, Edgeworth, and Larry since childhood. We've never seen Larry's, but Nick and Edgey still have theirs. Edgeworth even had to fight to keep from losing his to Manfred von Karma.

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*** And the anime introduces a shared set of trinkets (the Signal Samurai) owned by Phoenix, Edgeworth, and Larry since childhood. We've never seen yet to see (adult) Larry's, but Nick and Edgey still have theirs. Edgeworth even had to fight to keep from losing his to Manfred von Karma.
4th Jul '16 5:36:30 PM Chariset
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** When you switch to [[spoiler: playing as Edgeworth]] in case 5 of the above, the scene starts with Edgeworth saying he didn't have any intention of returning to 'that country' while in Europe. But told that Phoenix is in danger and needs his help, he charters a private jet and arrives within a day. And when Larry asks him what took him so long, we find out that he went to visit Phoenix at the hospital before he went anywhere else. ''And'' that Phoenix has entrusted him with two items of incredible personal value: his defense attorney badge and his magatama.
*** And look closely at Edgeworth's sprite during his turn as a defense attorney. He's ''wearing'' that badge.
** Building on that, Edgeworth states something along the lines of not desiring to see "that man" again for a while, which can imply that either something happened between them, or Edgeworth had some sort of reason for wishing to avoid Phoenix. When they get back, besides the omitted reunion (in which presumably something happened), their relationship is very close, with no apparent tension. Hmmm...

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** When you switch to [[spoiler: playing as Edgeworth]] in case 5 of the above, the scene starts with Edgeworth saying he didn't have any intention of returning to 'that country' while in Europe. But told that Phoenix is in danger and needs his help, he charters a private jet and arrives within a day. And when Larry asks him what took him so long, we find out that he went hours, going to visit Phoenix at the hospital before he went anywhere else. ''And'' that to see Phoenix has entrusted him with two items of incredible personal value: his defense attorney badge and his magatama.
*** And look closely at Edgeworth's sprite during his turn
as a defense attorney. He's ''wearing'' that badge.soon as he arrives.
** When he meets Larry (who was the one who called him), he is carrying two items of incredible personal value, on loan from Phoenix -- his defense badge and the magatama. Even though he clearly thinks they're both ludicrous (especially the magatama), he remembers all the pertinent details and is able to use both of them, with nothing more than the minor misstep of calling the Psyche-Locks "Psycholocks."
** Building on that, Edgeworth states something along the lines of not desiring to see "that man" "him" again for a while, which can imply that either something happened between them, or Edgeworth had some sort of reason for wishing to avoid Phoenix. When they get back, besides the omitted reunion (in which presumably something happened), their relationship is very close, with no apparent tension. Hmmm...



*** Edgeworth acknowledges this and thanks him in an emotionally intimate (especially for them) moment of the final case of ''Trials and Tribulations''.

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*** Edgeworth acknowledges this And Edgeworth's words and thanks him actions make it clear Phoenix left an equally strong impression on ''him'' in an emotionally intimate (especially that short span of time. When they meet in court for them) moment of the final case first time, he recognizes Phoenix instantly and doesn't even try to pretend he doesn't remember him, and in "Turnabout Goodbyes," he remembers that Phoenix was always stubborn once he'd committed himself to something. By the end of ''Trials and Tribulations''.Tribulations'', they have an open and intimate conversation about how they've each shaped the other into the man he eventually became, and the gratitude is mutual.



** After Edgeworth vanishes at the end of 1-5, poor, bereft Phoenix can't even stand to hear the briefest mention of his ''name''. As far as Phoenix is concerned, this is apparently a tragedy on par with the end of the world.
--->'''Maya:''' It was always back and forth with them. But when you're rivals for life...
--->'''Phoenix:''' Maya! Please don't mention that name ever again...
--->'''Maya:''' Huh...? But why, Nick?
--->'''Phoenix:''' I'm... I'm sorry, Maya. I forgot you don't know...
--->'''Phoenix:''' He... He's... He's gone... And he's not coming back...
*** To be fair, "Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth chooses death" ''was'' the suicide note it appeared to be. Edgeworth just had a change of heart after realizing he could be a prosecutor without being a monster.

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** After Edgeworth vanishes at the end of 1-5, poor, poor bereft Phoenix is certain he's dead and can't even stand bear to hear the briefest mention of his ''name''. As far as Phoenix is concerned, this is apparently a tragedy on par with the end of the world.
name.
--->'''Maya:''' It was always back and forth with them. But when you're rivals for life...
--->'''Phoenix:'''
life...\\
'''Phoenix:'''
Maya! Please don't mention that name ever again...
--->'''Maya:'''
again...\\
'''Maya:'''
Huh...? But why, Nick?
--->'''Phoenix:'''
Nick?\\
'''Phoenix:'''
I'm... I'm sorry, Maya. I forgot you don't know...
--->'''Phoenix:'''
know... He... He's... He's gone... And he's not coming back...
*** To be fair, "Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth chooses death" ''was'' the suicide note it appeared to be. Edgeworth just had a change of heart after realizing he could be a prosecutor without being a monster.
back...



** English speakers will never witness the joy of Phoenix and Miles switching from informal 'you' to formal 'you' in French, after that emotional talk in the last case of Trials and Tribulations. This is a big step that means they're way closer now.

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*** And the anime introduces a shared set of trinkets (the Signal Samurai) owned by Phoenix, Edgeworth, and Larry since childhood. We've never seen Larry's, but Nick and Edgey still have theirs. Edgeworth even had to fight to keep from losing his to Manfred von Karma.
** English speakers will never witness the joy of Phoenix and Miles switching from informal formal 'you' to formal informal 'you' in French, after that emotional talk in the last case of Trials and Tribulations. This is a big step that means they're way closer now.
3rd Jul '16 12:35:53 AM Klavice
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* In a "blink and you'll miss it moment", Trucy tells Vera that she is very pretty and should "sell herself". Yes, a 15 year old girl just [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar asked an older girl to sell herself]] as a prostitue presumably to other men/women. Trucy also has her moments with Jinxie in Dual Destinies, I guess that's a result of being RaisedByDudes.
30th Jun '16 9:01:51 PM parucafe
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**English speakers will never witness the joy of Phoenix and Miles switching from informal 'you' to formal 'you' in French, after that emotional talk in the last case of Trials and Tribulations. This is a big step that means they're way closer now.
23rd Jun '16 12:42:57 PM SaraJaye
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** Their animated cutscene during 5-3, in which Juniper calls Athena "Thena" for the first time in years, and Athena is touched. Athena is also hell-bent on taking Juniper's case despite her inexperience.


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* Simon Blackquill had a very Gumshoe/Edgeworth-esque vibe with Detective Bobby Fulbright, only with more UnequalPairing involved due to Simon being an inmate and Bobby his handler.
** Bobby is extremely loyal to Simon and believes in him becoming a better person.
** During one of Aristotle Means's lectures, Simon basically says "screw this, I'm going on a walk with Fulbright".
** "Fool Bright", while derogatory, could easily be taken as an AffectionateNickname.
** Bobby's ethical crisis in 5-4, in which he's torn between his loyalty to Simon and helping to solve the case the right way.
** [[spoiler:Of course, all of this takes on a [[MindGameShip different meaning]] after the reveal that it's not actually Bobby Fulbright, but the phantom having these moments with Simon.]]
17th Jun '16 2:43:09 PM IronInfidel
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*** The anime also shows Phoenix being in possession of [[https://s31.postimg.org/n777ve763/scrapbook2.png what seems like an entire scrapbook dedicated to Edgeworth]].
8th Jun '16 12:18:44 AM FenrirDarkWolf
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** Edgeworth also uses Phoenix's nickname for Pearl and apparently hangs around the Anything Agency enough to be familiar with Apollo (since they never met in ''Apollo Justice'').

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** [[http://65.media.tumblr.com/041c74bbef24afd5104b7c3aea4df6cb/tumblr_n206vmoLxu1rxisiao1_1280.png Edgeworth also uses Phoenix's nickname for Pearl Pearl]] and apparently hangs around the Anything Agency enough to be familiar with Apollo (since they never met in ''Apollo Justice'').
22nd May '16 6:50:56 AM Chariset
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** When you switch to [[spoiler: playing as Edgeworth]] in case 5 of the above, the scene starts with Edgeworth saying he didn't have any intention of returning to 'that country' while in Europe. But told that Phoenix is in danger and needs his help, he charters a private jet and arrives within a day. And when Larry asks him what took him so long, we find out that he went to visit Phoenix at the hospital before he went anywhere else. ''And'' Phoenix has entrusted him with two items of incredible personal value: his defense attorney badge and his magatama.
** Building on that, Edgeworth states something along the lines of not desiring to see Phoenix's face again for a while, which can imply that either something happened between them, or Edgeworth had some sort of reason for wishing to avoid Phoenix. When they get back, besides the omitted reunion (in which presumably something happened), their relationship is very close, with no apparent tension. Hmmm...

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** When you switch to [[spoiler: playing as Edgeworth]] in case 5 of the above, the scene starts with Edgeworth saying he didn't have any intention of returning to 'that country' while in Europe. But told that Phoenix is in danger and needs his help, he charters a private jet and arrives within a day. And when Larry asks him what took him so long, we find out that he went to visit Phoenix at the hospital before he went anywhere else. ''And'' that Phoenix has entrusted him with two items of incredible personal value: his defense attorney badge and his magatama.
*** And look closely at Edgeworth's sprite during his turn as a defense attorney. He's ''wearing'' that badge.
** Building on that, Edgeworth states something along the lines of not desiring to see Phoenix's face "that man" again for a while, which can imply that either something happened between them, or Edgeworth had some sort of reason for wishing to avoid Phoenix. When they get back, besides the omitted reunion (in which presumably something happened), their relationship is very close, with no apparent tension. Hmmm...
18th May '16 5:24:08 PM mlsmithca
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*** The anime also kept in the line about being [[http://aahype2k16.tumblr.com/post/144341830965/this-conversation-wow-look-how-phoenix-has "saddled with unnecessary feelings"]]. AndTheFandomRejoiced.

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*** The anime also kept in the line about being [[http://aahype2k16.tumblr.com/post/144341830965/this-conversation-wow-look-how-phoenix-has "saddled with unnecessary feelings"]]. AndTheFandomRejoiced.
feelings"]].
18th May '16 1:53:57 PM monkeypizzasonic
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*** The anime also kept in the line about being [[http://aahype2k16.tumblr.com/post/144341830965/this-conversation-wow-look-how-phoenix-has "saddled with unnecessary feelings"]].

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*** The anime also kept in the line about being [[http://aahype2k16.tumblr.com/post/144341830965/this-conversation-wow-look-how-phoenix-has "saddled with unnecessary feelings"]]. \n AndTheFandomRejoiced.
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