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22nd May '16 6:50:56 AM Chariset
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** When you switch to [[spoiler: playing as Edgeworth]] in case 5 of the above, the scene starts with Edgeworth saying he didn't have any intention of returning to 'that country' while in Europe. But told that Phoenix is in danger and needs his help, he charters a private jet and arrives within a day. And when Larry asks him what took him so long, we find out that he went to visit Phoenix at the hospital before he went anywhere else. ''And'' Phoenix has entrusted him with two items of incredible personal value: his defense attorney badge and his magatama.
** Building on that, Edgeworth states something along the lines of not desiring to see Phoenix's face again for a while, which can imply that either something happened between them, or Edgeworth had some sort of reason for wishing to avoid Phoenix. When they get back, besides the omitted reunion (in which presumably something happened), their relationship is very close, with no apparent tension. Hmmm...

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** When you switch to [[spoiler: playing as Edgeworth]] in case 5 of the above, the scene starts with Edgeworth saying he didn't have any intention of returning to 'that country' while in Europe. But told that Phoenix is in danger and needs his help, he charters a private jet and arrives within a day. And when Larry asks him what took him so long, we find out that he went to visit Phoenix at the hospital before he went anywhere else. ''And'' that Phoenix has entrusted him with two items of incredible personal value: his defense attorney badge and his magatama.
*** And look closely at Edgeworth's sprite during his turn as a defense attorney. He's ''wearing'' that badge.
** Building on that, Edgeworth states something along the lines of not desiring to see Phoenix's face "that man" again for a while, which can imply that either something happened between them, or Edgeworth had some sort of reason for wishing to avoid Phoenix. When they get back, besides the omitted reunion (in which presumably something happened), their relationship is very close, with no apparent tension. Hmmm...
18th May '16 5:24:08 PM mlsmithca
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*** The anime also kept in the line about being [[http://aahype2k16.tumblr.com/post/144341830965/this-conversation-wow-look-how-phoenix-has "saddled with unnecessary feelings"]]. AndTheFandomRejoiced.

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*** The anime also kept in the line about being [[http://aahype2k16.tumblr.com/post/144341830965/this-conversation-wow-look-how-phoenix-has "saddled with unnecessary feelings"]]. AndTheFandomRejoiced.
feelings"]].
18th May '16 1:53:57 PM monkeypizzasonic
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*** The anime also kept in the line about being [[http://aahype2k16.tumblr.com/post/144341830965/this-conversation-wow-look-how-phoenix-has "saddled with unnecessary feelings"]].

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*** The anime also kept in the line about being [[http://aahype2k16.tumblr.com/post/144341830965/this-conversation-wow-look-how-phoenix-has "saddled with unnecessary feelings"]]. \n AndTheFandomRejoiced.
18th May '16 1:52:04 PM monkeypizzasonic
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*** The anime also kept in the line about being [[http://aahype2k16.tumblr.com/post/144341830965/this-conversation-wow-look-how-phoenix-has "saddled with unnecessary feelings"]].
12th May '16 4:55:09 PM Chariset
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** When you switch to [[spoiler: playing as Edgeworth]] in case 5 of the above, the scene starts with Edgeworth saying he didn't have any intention of returning to 'that country' while in Europe. But told that Phoenix is in danger and needs his help, he charters a private jet and arrives within a day.

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** When you switch to [[spoiler: playing as Edgeworth]] in case 5 of the above, the scene starts with Edgeworth saying he didn't have any intention of returning to 'that country' while in Europe. But told that Phoenix is in danger and needs his help, he charters a private jet and arrives within a day. And when Larry asks him what took him so long, we find out that he went to visit Phoenix at the hospital before he went anywhere else. ''And'' Phoenix has entrusted him with two items of incredible personal value: his defense attorney badge and his magatama.



** The fact that Edgeworth doesn't smile much at all at most people, not in ''Investigations'' or in the main series, but the two people of the games he smiles often and openly at are Franziska (sister), and... Phoenix.

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** The fact that Edgeworth doesn't smile much at all at most people, not in ''Investigations'' or in the main series, but the two people of the games he smiles often and openly at are Franziska (sister), (unofficial sister), and... Phoenix.



--->'''Maya:''' "It was always back and forth with them. But when you're rivals for life..."
--->'''Phoenix:''' "Maya! Please don't mention that name ever again..."
--->'''Maya:''' "Huh...? But why, Nick?"
--->'''Phoenix:''' "I'm... I'm sorry, Maya. I forgot you don't know..."
--->'''Phoenix:''' "He... He's... He's gone... And he's not coming back..."
*** To be fair, the note did sounds more like a suicide note than anything else.

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--->'''Maya:''' "It It was always back and forth with them. But when you're rivals for life..."
life...
--->'''Phoenix:''' "Maya! Maya! Please don't mention that name ever again..."
again...
--->'''Maya:''' "Huh...Huh...? But why, Nick?"
Nick?
--->'''Phoenix:''' "I'm...I'm... I'm sorry, Maya. I forgot you don't know..."
know...
--->'''Phoenix:''' "He...He... He's... He's gone... And he's not coming back..."
back...
*** To be fair, "Prosecutor Miles Edgeworth chooses death" ''was'' the note did sounds more like a suicide note than anything else.it appeared to be. Edgeworth just had a change of heart after realizing he could be a prosecutor without being a monster.



** Apparently the HoYay's memetic enough for it to show up when Phoenix and Edgeworth make cameos in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''. In She-Hulk's ending, the two are scared enough of the green-skinned woman that they start holding each other out of fear.

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** Apparently the HoYay's memetic enough for it to show up when Phoenix and Edgeworth make cameos in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''. In She-Hulk's ending, the two are scared enough of the green-skinned woman that they start holding jump into each other out of fear.other's arms.



---> [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQzvkRPTKjU&t=4m47s "Naruhodou..."]]

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---> [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQzvkRPTKjU&t=4m47s "Naruhodou..."]]--->"Naruhodou..."



-->''Iris:'' Mr. Edgeworth, who is Mr. Wright to you?
-->''Edgeworth:'' He is a very dear and indispensable friend.

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-->''Iris:'' -->'''Iris:''' Mr. Edgeworth, who is Mr. Wright to you?
-->''Edgeworth:'' -->'''Edgeworth:''' He is a very dear and indispensable friend.
3rd May '16 5:59:00 AM monkeypizzasonic
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[[folder: Phoenix and Edgeworth]]



* Even after Godot [[spoiler: arrests and prosecutes him for murder]] Ron [=DeLite=] has an adoring interest in the coffee fiend. He admits fully to having a lifelong fascination with "[[MysteriousPast mysterious]] [[GogglesDoSomethingUnusual masked]] men" and Godot refers to him as a 'kitten', a term he usually reserves for attractive women.
* There's also the [[HeterosexualLifePartners Guy Love]] vibe from Gumshoe and Edgeworth, especially the way Gumshoe is almost always around Edgeworth and becomes ''incredibly'' defensive when anyone badmouths Edgeworth even in the slightest. Heck, Phoenix's immediate thought upon seeing how tall Edgeworth's (who's afraid of heights) bookshelves are is that ''Gumshoe hangs around his office to get them down for him.''
** It's just as easily interpreted as one-sided puppy love. Gumshoe is all happy and excited to see Edgeworth (until being scolded, in which case he cringes); if anyone insults Edgeworth, he does the human equivalent of growling and snapping at them; and no matter how many times he's kicked ("Detective, isn't your salary review coming up soon?") he keeps on coming back -- and he's still always happy to see Edgeworth. There's also the total devotion thing.
*** Then there's [[http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/276/592370-concept5.png some of the ''Investigations'' concept art]], which portrays Edgeworth and Gumshoe [[UmbrellaOfTogetherness sharing an umbrella]]. (One wonders why Edgeworth looks NotSoStoic in this piece...)
* In the fifth episode of the DS port of the first game, Les Yay ''and'' Ho Yay reside happily. Attracted to Mia intellectually, Lana. [[ExperimentedInCollege While you went to college together]]. ''Right...''
* There's also how (engaged to someone else) Max Galactica refers to [[AnythingThatMoves both]] Phoenix and Maya with terms of endearment, although this may well be [[BecomingTheMask part of his stage persona]], given that his act is very much being a visual kei/glam rock-styled illusionist.
* In Justice For All, when showing Moe the picture of Max from the grand prix, he mentions that Max also made them all worship his "big bust"
** ''I wouldn't mind talking about Max's bust... not that I'm into that sort of thing''
* Adrian/Franziska fanart seems to be gaining steam lately, thanks in no small part to Adrian's ending in the third game where [[spoiler:she tells Phoenix that she got a chance to meet Franziska in her home country, and learned how to use a whip. Wonder what kind of lessons she learned there, hmm?]]
** There's also the fact that by the end of the third game, it's clear that Franzie's [[DefrostingIceQueen starting to soften up...]] but just to other females.
** There's also Adrian's tendency to get close to and imitate other women...
*** Adrian's relationship with Celeste (her boss) was really...strong. To the point Adrian tried to [[spoiler: kill herself when she discovered Celeste was killed]]. Sure, Adrian has [[spoiler:an illness that makes her dependent on other people]], but that only adds more LesYay with Franziska, since Adrian fully trusted her during the trial. Also, Adrian is the only character in the game [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Franziska talks politely and never gets angry]], and let's not forget that she had absolutely no reason to [[spoiler: befriend Adrian after the trial, even more considering Adrian stayed in jail for months for tampering with evidence. [[ShipTease Did Franziska wait in America just to see her again? Adrian probably got dependent on her by the third game]]]]. They barely interact ingame but it's still much more than Franziska ever did to Edgeworth or Phoenix.
* In 1-2, a painting that appeared in Grossberg's office suddenly turns up in Redd White's the next day. When you talk to Grossberg about it, you have the option to guess he and White are ''lovers''. Phoenix's imagination runs with this premise quite a bit before Grossberg explains what's ''really'' going on.

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* Even after Godot [[spoiler: arrests
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and prosecutes him for murder]] Ron [=DeLite=] has an adoring interest in the coffee fiend. He admits fully to having a lifelong fascination with "[[MysteriousPast mysterious]] [[GogglesDoSomethingUnusual masked]] men" and Godot refers to him as a 'kitten', a term he usually reserves for attractive women.
* There's also the [[HeterosexualLifePartners Guy Love]] vibe from Gumshoe and Edgeworth, especially the way Gumshoe is almost always around Edgeworth and becomes ''incredibly'' defensive when anyone badmouths Edgeworth even in the slightest. Heck, Phoenix's immediate thought upon seeing how tall Edgeworth's (who's afraid of heights) bookshelves are is that ''Gumshoe hangs around his office to get them down for him.''
** It's just as easily interpreted as one-sided puppy love. Gumshoe is all happy and excited to see Edgeworth (until being scolded, in which case he cringes); if anyone insults Edgeworth, he does the human equivalent of growling and snapping at them; and no matter how many times he's kicked ("Detective, isn't your salary review coming up soon?") he keeps on coming back -- and he's still always happy to see Edgeworth. There's also the total devotion thing.
*** Then there's [[http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/276/592370-concept5.png some of the ''Investigations'' concept art]], which portrays Edgeworth and Gumshoe [[UmbrellaOfTogetherness sharing an umbrella]]. (One wonders why Edgeworth looks NotSoStoic in this piece...)
* In the fifth episode of the DS port of the first game, Les Yay ''and'' Ho Yay reside happily. Attracted to Mia intellectually, Lana. [[ExperimentedInCollege While you went to college together]]. ''Right...''
* There's also how (engaged to someone else) Max Galactica refers to [[AnythingThatMoves both]] Phoenix and Maya with terms of endearment, although this may well be [[BecomingTheMask part of his stage persona]], given that his act is very much being a visual kei/glam rock-styled illusionist.
* In Justice For All, when showing Moe the picture of Max from the grand prix, he mentions that Max also made them all worship his "big bust"
** ''I wouldn't mind talking about Max's bust... not that I'm into that sort of thing''
* Adrian/Franziska fanart seems to be gaining steam lately, thanks in no small part to Adrian's ending in the third game where [[spoiler:she tells Phoenix that she got a chance to meet Franziska in her home country, and learned how to use a whip. Wonder what kind of lessons she learned there, hmm?]]
** There's also the fact that by the end of the third game, it's clear that Franzie's [[DefrostingIceQueen starting to soften up...]] but just to other females.
** There's also Adrian's tendency to get close to and imitate other women...
*** Adrian's relationship with Celeste (her boss) was really...strong. To the point Adrian tried to [[spoiler: kill herself when she discovered Celeste was killed]]. Sure, Adrian has [[spoiler:an illness that makes her dependent on other people]], but that only adds more LesYay with Franziska, since Adrian fully trusted her during the trial. Also, Adrian is the only character in the game [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Franziska talks politely and never gets angry]], and let's not forget that she had absolutely no reason to [[spoiler: befriend Adrian after the trial, even more considering Adrian stayed in jail for months for tampering with evidence. [[ShipTease Did Franziska wait in America just to see her again? Adrian probably got dependent on her by the third game]]]]. They barely interact ingame but it's still much more than Franziska ever did to Edgeworth or Phoenix.
* In 1-2, a painting that appeared in Grossberg's office suddenly turns up in Redd White's the next day. When you talk to Grossberg about it, you have the option to guess he and White are ''lovers''. Phoenix's imagination runs with this premise quite a bit before Grossberg explains what's ''really'' going on.
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* Even after Godot [[spoiler: arrests and prosecutes him for murder]] Ron [=DeLite=] has an adoring interest in the coffee fiend. He admits fully to having a lifelong fascination with "[[MysteriousPast mysterious]] [[GogglesDoSomethingUnusual masked]] men" and Godot refers to him as a 'kitten', a term he usually reserves for attractive women.
* There's also the [[HeterosexualLifePartners Guy Love]] vibe from Gumshoe and Edgeworth, especially the way Gumshoe is almost always around Edgeworth and becomes ''incredibly'' defensive when anyone badmouths Edgeworth even in the slightest. Heck, Phoenix's immediate thought upon seeing how tall Edgeworth's (who's afraid of heights) bookshelves are is that ''Gumshoe hangs around his office to get them down for him.''
** It's just as easily interpreted as one-sided puppy love. Gumshoe is all happy and excited to see Edgeworth (until being scolded, in which case he cringes); if anyone insults Edgeworth, he does the human equivalent of growling and snapping at them; and no matter how many times he's kicked ("Detective, isn't your salary review coming up soon?") he keeps on coming back -- and he's still always happy to see Edgeworth. There's also the total devotion thing.
*** Then there's [[http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/0/276/592370-concept5.png some of the ''Investigations'' concept art]], which portrays Edgeworth and Gumshoe [[UmbrellaOfTogetherness sharing an umbrella]]. (One wonders why Edgeworth looks NotSoStoic in this piece...)
* In the fifth episode of the DS port of the first game, Les Yay ''and'' Ho Yay reside happily. Attracted to Mia intellectually, Lana. [[ExperimentedInCollege While you went to college together]]. ''Right...''
* There's also how (engaged to someone else) Max Galactica refers to [[AnythingThatMoves both]] Phoenix and Maya with terms of endearment, although this may well be [[BecomingTheMask part of his stage persona]], given that his act is very much being a visual kei/glam rock-styled illusionist.
* In Justice For All, when showing Moe the picture of Max from the grand prix, he mentions that Max also made them all worship his "big bust"
** ''I wouldn't mind talking about Max's bust... not that I'm into that sort of thing''
* Adrian/Franziska fanart seems to be gaining steam lately, thanks in no small part to Adrian's ending in the third game where [[spoiler:she tells Phoenix that she got a chance to meet Franziska in her home country, and learned how to use a whip. Wonder what kind of lessons she learned there, hmm?]]
** There's also the fact that by the end of the third game, it's clear that Franzie's [[DefrostingIceQueen starting to soften up...]] but just to other females.
** There's also Adrian's tendency to get close to and imitate other women...
*** Adrian's relationship with Celeste (her boss) was really...strong. To the point Adrian tried to [[spoiler: kill herself when she discovered Celeste was killed]]. Sure, Adrian has [[spoiler:an illness that makes her dependent on other people]], but that only adds more LesYay with Franziska, since Adrian fully trusted her during the trial. Also, Adrian is the only character in the game [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness Franziska talks politely and never gets angry]], and let's not forget that she had absolutely no reason to [[spoiler: befriend Adrian after the trial, even more considering Adrian stayed in jail for months for tampering with evidence. [[ShipTease Did Franziska wait in America just to see her again? Adrian probably got dependent on her by the third game]]]]. They barely interact ingame but it's still much more than Franziska ever did to Edgeworth or Phoenix.
* In 1-2, a painting that appeared in Grossberg's office suddenly turns up in Redd White's the next day. When you talk to Grossberg about it, you have the option to guess he and White are ''lovers''. Phoenix's imagination runs with this premise quite a bit before Grossberg explains what's ''really'' going on.



--> '''Apollo:''' DAMMIT! IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!

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--> '''Apollo:''' DAMMIT! IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!FAIR!
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3rd May '16 4:07:33 AM SystemCellar
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** Not to mention how an official art released by Capcom showed Edgeworth in a pink apron helping Maya make a Valentine's Day chocolate statue of Phoenix, using a picture of Phoenix for reference. [[http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u126/clivo100/random%20stuff/gssnapshot1.jpg Proof here,]] and Phoenix is even [[ShirtlessScene shirtless]] in the picture.
*** And Phoenix appears a tad ''wet''. With a towel. Kinda makes you wonder how Edgeworth got that picture...
16th Apr '16 11:49:42 PM HebiKaze10
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** If going by that, Lang's behaviour where he starts to lessen his antagonism towards Edgeworth can pretty much be seen as him slowly ''going dere.''
4th Apr '16 8:20:34 PM HebiKaze10
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** Some of Lang's behaviour in general towards Edgeworth before he started to see him as a Worthy Opponent can come off as being [[TsunDere tsundere]]-ish.
*** '''Lang:''' Make no mistake, it's not like I was trying to help you with what I do.

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** Some of Lang's behaviour in general towards Edgeworth before he started to see him as a Worthy Opponent WorthyOpponent can come off as being [[TsunDere tsundere]]-ish.
*** ---> '''Lang:''' Make no mistake, it's not like I was trying to help you with what I do.
4th Apr '16 8:19:33 PM HebiKaze10
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** Some of Lang's behaviour in general towards Edgeworth before he started to see him as a Worthy Opponent can come off as being [[TsunDere tsundere]]-ish.
*** '''Lang:''' Make no mistake, it's not like I was trying to help you with what I do.
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