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* In the censored version of the events leading to Joker's death, Tim ''immediately'' tosses the gun given to him by Joker to kill Batman aside, causing Bruce to [[SoProudOfYou smile with pride]].

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* In the censored version of the events leading to Joker's death, death. Tim ''immediately'' tosses the gun given to him by Joker to kill Batman aside, causing Bruce to [[SoProudOfYou smile with pride]].
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* Even though she's fully aware that Harley knowingly participated in the psychological torture of Tim Drake, she still prioritizes Harley's safety over her own when they tumble over a chasm together, trying to lift her to safety. It doesn't work, but she still gave it her all to SaveTheVillain. Bruce would be proud.

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* Even though she's fully aware that Harley knowingly participated in the psychological torture of Tim Drake, she Barbara still prioritizes Harley's safety over her own when they tumble over a chasm together, trying to lift her to safety. It doesn't work, but she still gave it her all to SaveTheVillain. Bruce would be proud.

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* When the Joker reveals that he had brainwashed Tim using a microchip, Terry does what he can to distract the Joker so that he can short out the little device. He used the time mocking the clown to find his joy buzzer and a prime position to put it on the microchip. Then as soon as the Joker dies (again), Terry grabs a unconscious Tim as Ace barks in alarm and busts them all out before the satellite laser can disintegrate them.

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* When the Joker reveals that he had brainwashed Tim using a microchip, Terry does what he can to distract the Joker so that he can short out the little device. He used the time mocking the clown to find his joy buzzer and a prime position to put it on the microchip. Then as soon as the Joker dies (again), Terry grabs a an unconscious Tim as Ace barks in alarm and busts them all out before the satellite laser can disintegrate them.



** Not only that, but she really is pissed that her granddaughters were engaged in criminal activities. Not only did she move on, but she broke out of her own criminal mindset and wanted her family to be on the straight and narrow.

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** Not only that, but she really is pissed that her granddaughters were engaged in criminal activities. Not only did she move on, but she broke out of her own criminal mindset and wanted her family to be on the straight and narrow.narrow.
* Even though she's fully aware that Harley knowingly participated in the psychological torture of Tim Drake, she still prioritizes Harley's safety over her own when they tumble over a chasm together, trying to lift her to safety. It doesn't work, but she still gave it her all to SaveTheVillain. Bruce would be proud.
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* Barbara mentions how the only other person they brought into their confidence about what happened was her father Commissioner Jim Gordon and he promised to keep it secret.
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* When Terry wanted to ask Barbara about the Joker since Bruce refuse to talk about it, she too won't say anything about it and just tells him to drop it. While it seems like she still doesn't accept Terry, it was really to protect Tim. But after Joker attacked Bruce, Terry calls Barbara for help. Then Terry begged Barbara to tell him the whole truth since he's part of this now whether she likes it or not. After a moment, Barbara relents.

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* When Terry wanted to ask Barbara about the Joker since Bruce refuse refused to talk about it, she too won't say anything about it and just tells him to drop it. While it seems like she still doesn't accept Terry, it was really to protect Tim. But after Joker attacked Bruce, Terry calls Barbara for help. Then Terry begged Barbara to tell him the whole truth since he's part of this now whether she likes it or not. After a moment, Barbara relents.

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* In the censored version of the events leading to Jokers death, Tim ''immediately'' tosses the gun given to him by Joker to kill Batman aside, causing Bruce to [[SoProudOfYou smile with pride]].

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* During the opening robbery when one of the Dee Dee twins falls off the hover forklifts, her sister ''immediately'' abandons the robbery and goes zooming in to help her.
* Ace wagging his tail at Bruce's side while watching him practice throwing batarangs.
* The FriendOrIdolDecision where Batman saves the lives of two people hanging from a precipice at the cost of letting the Joker escape, with Bruce telling him it was the right thing to do.
* After learning the Joker has returned, Bruce tries to make Terry stop being Batman, and says that he's done the reputation of Batman proud and has avenged his father. While he might just have been saying it - at least in part - to get him out of the suit and out of harm's way, it's not something he'd say lightly.
* After Bruce sends Terry away, the first thing Terry does is spend more time with Dana.
* After being attacked by the resurrected Joker and his gang, Ace recovers by watching classic WB cartoons.
** And Terry makes it a point to check up on him.
* When Terry wanted to ask Barbara about the Joker since Bruce refuse to talk about it, she too won't say anything about it and just tells him to drop it. While it seems like she still doesn't accept Terry, it was really to protect Tim. But after Joker attacked Bruce, Terry calls Barbara for help. Then Terry begged Barbara to tell him the whole truth since he's part of this now whether she likes it or not. After a moment, Barbara relents.
* A blink-and-you-miss-it one from the flashback, but Harley actually seems to try to [[MamaBear protect]] JJ (brainwashed Tim) at one point. Perhaps the desire for children was more genuine on her part?
* In the censored version of the events leading to Jokers Joker's death, Tim ''immediately'' tosses the gun given to him by Joker to kill Batman aside, causing Bruce to [[SoProudOfYou smile with pride]].



* Barbara emphasizes that Bruce did ''not'' fire Tim; he forbade the boy from wearing the Robin suit ever again after he recovered because he didn't want another kid hurt on his watch. Tim and Barbara know it wasn't a punishment, but an acknowledgment that Robin couldn't go on after such trauma and that Bruce never forgave himself for what the Joker did. After the Dark Age, comic Batman would "fire" his sidekicks when they got injured on the job or disobeyed him. We saw that with Dick Grayson after Crisis on Infinite Earths, and Stephanie Brown before ''War Games''. It's reassuring that Bruce and Barbara told Tim that it wasn't his fault, especially since Tim as an adult felt guilty for murdering the Joker.

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* Barbara emphasizes that Bruce did ''not'' fire Tim; he forbade the boy from wearing the Robin suit ever again after he recovered because he didn't want another kid hurt on his watch. Tim and Barbara know it wasn't a punishment, but an acknowledgment that Robin couldn't go on after such trauma and that Bruce never forgave himself for what the Joker did. After the Dark Age, comic Batman would "fire" his sidekicks when they got injured on the job or disobeyed him. We saw that with Dick Grayson after Crisis ''Crisis on Infinite Earths, Earths'', and Stephanie Brown before ''War Games''. It's reassuring that Bruce and Barbara told Tim that it wasn't his fault, especially since Tim as an adult felt guilty for murdering the Joker.



* When the Joker reveals that he had brainwashed Tim using a microchip, Terry does what he can to distract the Joker so that he can short out the little device. He used the time mocking the clown to find his joy buzzer and a prime position to put it on the microchip. Then as soon as the Joker dies (again), Terry grabs a semiconscious Tim as Ace barks in alarm and busts them all out before the satellite laser can disintegrate them.
* The ending scene at the hospital, where the Bat-Family is together again after nearly 40 years apart. Barbara reassures Tim that it wasn't his fault that the Joker hijacked his body, and the monster is gone for good. Terry reveals his identity to Tim, who thanks him for stopping the Joker and saving his life.

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* A police officer salutes Batman after handing Jordan Pryce over for questioning, [[ThrowItIn it wasn't even in any of the original storyboards but kept in anyway]].
* Terry having Ace by his side while checking computer files, and the way Ace races to greet Bruce when he returns to the Batcave.
* When the Joker reveals that he had brainwashed Tim using a microchip, Terry does what he can to distract the Joker so that he can short out the little device. He used the time mocking the clown to find his joy buzzer and a prime position to put it on the microchip. Then as soon as the Joker dies (again), Terry grabs a semiconscious unconscious Tim as Ace barks in alarm and busts them all out before the satellite laser can disintegrate them.
* When Terry visits Tim in the hospital after the crisis is over.
-->'''Tim''': For what it's worth, Bruce couldn't have chosen anyone better to put on the mask.
-->'''Terry''': Coming from you, that means everything.
* The ending scene at the hospital, scene, where the Bat-Family is together again after nearly 40 years apart. Barbara reassures Tim that it wasn't his fault that the Joker hijacked his body, and the monster is gone for good. Terry reveals his identity to Tim, who thanks him for stopping the Joker and saving his life.



-->'''Bruce''': Terry... I've been thinking about something you once told me. And you were wrong. [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile. It's the other way around.]] Never tell yourself anything different.

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-->'''Bruce''': Terry... I've been thinking about something you once told me. And you were wrong. [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile. It's the other way around.]] Never tell yourself anything different.



*** It should be noted that the "old man" part was ''not sarcastic at all''... which makes it even more heartwarming.

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*** It should be noted that the "old man" part was ''not sarcastic at all''... which makes it even more heartwarming.



** Not only that, but she really is pissed that her granddaughters were engaging in criminal activities. Not only did she move on, but she broke out of her own criminal mindset and wanted her family to be on the straight and narrow.
** A blink-and-you-miss-it one from the flashback, but Harley actually seems to try to [[MamaBear protect]] JJ (brainwashed Tim) at one point. Perhaps the desire for children was more genuine on her part?
* After being attacked by the resurrected Joker and his gang, Ace recovers by watching classic WB cartoons.
** And Terry makes it a point to check up on him.
* When Terry visits Tim in the hospital after the crisis is over.
-->'''Tim''': For what it's worth, Bruce couldn't have chosen anyone better to put on the mask.
-->'''Terry''': Coming from you, that means everything.
* Earlier in the film, Terry makes it clear that being Batman is important to him because [[TheAtoner it helps him make up for his past]], and makes him feel like a worthwhile person. Later, Bruce makes a point to tell him that being Batman doesn't make Terry worthwhile - it's the other way around.
** Additionally, after the Joker's return, Bruce tries to make Terry stop being Batman, and says that he's done the reputation of Batman proud and has avenged his father. While he might just have been saying it - at least in part - to get him out of the suit and out of harm's way, it's not something he'd say lightly.
* The scene where a police officer gives Batman a salute, [[ThrowItIn it wasn't even in any of the original storyboards but kept in anyway]].
* Earlier, when Terry wanted to ask Barbara about the Joker since Bruce refuse to talk about it, she too won't say anything about it and just tells him to drop it. While it seems like she still doesn't accept Terry, it was really to protect Tim. But after Joker attacked Bruce, Terry calls Barbara for help. Then Terry begged Barbara to tell him the whole truth since he's part of this now whether she likes it or not. After a moment, Barbara relents.
* During the opening robbery when one of the Dee Dee twins falls off the hover forklifts, her sister ''immediately'' abandons the robbery and goes zooming in to help her.
* After Bruce sends Terry away, the first thing Terry does is spend more time with Dana.
* Terry having Ace by his side while checking computer files, and the way Ace races to greet Bruce when he returns to the Batcave.
* Ace wagging his tail at Bruce's side while watching him practice throwing batarangs.
* The FriendOrIdolDecision where Batman saves the lives of two people hanging from a precipice at the cost of letting the Joker escape, with Bruce telling him it was the right thing to do.

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** Not only that, but she really is pissed that her granddaughters were engaging engaged in criminal activities. Not only did she move on, but she broke out of her own criminal mindset and wanted her family to be on the straight and narrow.
** A blink-and-you-miss-it one from the flashback, but Harley actually seems to try to [[MamaBear protect]] JJ (brainwashed Tim) at one point. Perhaps the desire for children was more genuine on her part?
* After being attacked by the resurrected Joker and his gang, Ace recovers by watching classic WB cartoons.
** And Terry makes it a point to check up on him.
* When Terry visits Tim in the hospital after the crisis is over.
-->'''Tim''': For what it's worth, Bruce couldn't have chosen anyone better to put on the mask.
-->'''Terry''': Coming from you, that means everything.
* Earlier in the film, Terry makes it clear that being Batman is important to him because [[TheAtoner it helps him make up for his past]], and makes him feel like a worthwhile person. Later, Bruce makes a point to tell him that being Batman doesn't make Terry worthwhile - it's the other way around.
** Additionally, after the Joker's return, Bruce tries to make Terry stop being Batman, and says that he's done the reputation of Batman proud and has avenged his father. While he might just have been saying it - at least in part - to get him out of the suit and out of harm's way, it's not something he'd say lightly.
* The scene where a police officer gives Batman a salute, [[ThrowItIn it wasn't even in any of the original storyboards but kept in anyway]].
* Earlier, when Terry wanted to ask Barbara about the Joker since Bruce refuse to talk about it, she too won't say anything about it and just tells him to drop it. While it seems like she still doesn't accept Terry, it was really to protect Tim. But after Joker attacked Bruce, Terry calls Barbara for help. Then Terry begged Barbara to tell him the whole truth since he's part of this now whether she likes it or not. After a moment, Barbara relents.
* During the opening robbery when one of the Dee Dee twins falls off the hover forklifts, her sister ''immediately'' abandons the robbery and goes zooming in to help her.
* After Bruce sends Terry away, the first thing Terry does is spend more time with Dana.
* Terry having Ace by his side while checking computer files, and the way Ace races to greet Bruce when he returns to the Batcave.
* Ace wagging his tail at Bruce's side while watching him practice throwing batarangs.
* The FriendOrIdolDecision where Batman saves the lives of two people hanging from a precipice at the cost of letting the Joker escape, with Bruce telling him it was the right thing to do.
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* During the opening robbery when one of the Dee Dee twins falls off the hover forklifts, her sister ''immediately'' detach from the robbery and goes zooming in to help her.

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* During the opening robbery when one of the Dee Dee twins falls off the hover forklifts, her sister ''immediately'' detach from abandons the robbery and goes zooming in to help her.
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-->'''Bruce''': Terry... I've been thinking about something you once told me. And you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile. It's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.

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-->'''Bruce''': Terry... I've been thinking about something you once told me. And you were wrong. [[YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile. It's the other way around. ]] Never tell yourself anything different.
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** A blink and you miss it one from the flashback, but Harley actually seems to try to [[MamaBear protect]] JJ (brainwashed Tim) at one point. Perhaps the desire for children was more genuine on her part?

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** A blink and you miss it blink-and-you-miss-it one from the flashback, but Harley actually seems to try to [[MamaBear protect]] JJ (brainwashed Tim) at one point. Perhaps the desire for children was more genuine on her part?



* Earlier, when Terry wanted to ask Barbara about the Joker since Bruce refuse to talk about it, she too won't say anything about it and just tells him to drop it. While it seems that she still refuses to accept Terry, it was really to protect Tim. But after Joker attacked Bruce, Terry calls Barbara for help. Then Terry begged Barbara to tell him the whole truth since he's part of this now whether she likes it or not. After a moment, Barbara relents.

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* Earlier, when Terry wanted to ask Barbara about the Joker since Bruce refuse to talk about it, she too won't say anything about it and just tells him to drop it. While it seems that like she still refuses to doesn't accept Terry, it was really to protect Tim. But after Joker attacked Bruce, Terry calls Barbara for help. Then Terry begged Barbara to tell him the whole truth since he's part of this now whether she likes it or not. After a moment, Barbara relents.
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* Terry having Ace by his side while checking computer files, and the way Ace races tp greet Bruce when he returns to the Batcave.

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* Terry having Ace by his side while checking computer files, and the way Ace races tp to greet Bruce when he returns to the Batcave.



* The FriendOrIdolDecision where Batman saves the lives of two people hanging from a prepice at the cost of letting the Joker escape, with Bruce telling him it was the right thing to do.

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* The FriendOrIdolDecision where Batman saves the lives of two people hanging from a prepice precipice at the cost of letting the Joker escape, with Bruce telling him it was the right thing to do.
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-->'''Bruce''': Terry... I've been thinking of something you once told me. And you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile. It's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.

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-->'''Bruce''': Terry... I've been thinking of about something you once told me. And you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile. It's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.

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* While Tim says it bitterly, he says Bruce did him a favor by retiring him after what happened with the Joker. It's easy to forget that he was probably sixteen at best when he went through horrific MindRape, and being able to choose a new path proved that he could move forward and not backward. For all that happened, he never hated his adoptive father or blamed him for the trauma. It was Bruce's [[MyGreatestFailure own guilt]] that kept him away.

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* While Tim says it bitterly, he says Bruce did him a favor by retiring him after what happened with the Joker. It's easy to forget that he was probably sixteen at best when he went through horrific MindRape, and being able to choose a new path proved that he could move forward and not backward. For all that happened, he never hated his adoptive father or blamed him for the trauma.trauma (and in fact Barbara mentions he made a few attempts to reconnect with Bruce). It was Bruce's [[MyGreatestFailure own guilt]] that kept him away.



* Earlier, when Terry wanted to ask Barbara about the Joker since Bruce refuse to talk about it, she too won't say anything about it and just tells him to drop it. While it seems that she still refuses to accept Terry, it was really to protect Tim. But after Joker attacked Bruce, Terry calls Barbara for help. Then Terry begged Barbara to tell him the whole truth since he's part of this now whether she likes it or not. After a moment, Barbara relents.

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* Earlier, when Terry wanted to ask Barbara about the Joker since Bruce refuse to talk about it, she too won't say anything about it and just tells him to drop it. While it seems that she still refuses to accept Terry, it was really to protect Tim. But after Joker attacked Bruce, Terry calls Barbara for help. Then Terry begged Barbara to tell him the whole truth since he's part of this now whether she likes it or not. After a moment, Barbara relents.relents.
* During the opening robbery when one of the Dee Dee twins falls off the hover forklifts, her sister ''immediately'' detach from the robbery and goes zooming in to help her.
* After Bruce sends Terry away, the first thing Terry does is spend more time with Dana.
* Terry having Ace by his side while checking computer files, and the way Ace races tp greet Bruce when he returns to the Batcave.
* Ace wagging his tail at Bruce's side while watching him practice throwing batarangs.
* The FriendOrIdolDecision where Batman saves the lives of two people hanging from a prepice at the cost of letting the Joker escape, with Bruce telling him it was the right thing to do.

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