History Headscratchers / XXXHolic

26th May '18 9:50:39 AM StFan
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If everything has a just reward, can you truly be altruistic in the '''[=xXx Holic=]'' world if you know your good acts will be rewarded?

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If everything has a just reward, can you truly be altruistic in the '''[=xXx Holic=]'' ''[=×××HOLiC=]'' world if you know your good acts will be rewarded?



* Nowhere does Yuuko (or xXxHolic) say that everything has a just reward. She says that she HERSELF, and the mysterious set of rules that govern her shop/line of work and the 'WISHES' she grants (which might be instated by some 'higher power' like The World or which might be self-philosophy) must operate on a basis of equal compensation. We have seen that she can ignore or at the very least not adhere strictly to this if she so chooses, prompting the latter of the above options. She has also taught Watanuki the lesson that a murder caused in cold blood carries a bad-karma with it that screws over the holder (although even here keep in mind that the few times we've seen this in action it was either (a) caused directly by Yuuko herself, or (b) fell onto people who already had significant supernatural issues and weren't 'normal'). As a good example, Watanuki has done a boatload of good deeds, and the Universe (and Yuuko in not so subtle ways) continues to shit all over him and his life.

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* Nowhere does Yuuko (or xXxHolic) ''[=×××HOLiC=]'') say that everything has a just reward. She says that she HERSELF, and the mysterious set of rules that govern her shop/line of work and the 'WISHES' she grants (which might be instated by some 'higher power' like The World or which might be self-philosophy) must operate on a basis of equal compensation. We have seen that she can ignore or at the very least not adhere strictly to this if she so chooses, prompting the latter of the above options. She has also taught Watanuki the lesson that a murder caused in cold blood carries a bad-karma with it that screws over the holder (although even here keep in mind that the few times we've seen this in action it was either (a) caused directly by Yuuko herself, or (b) fell onto people who already had significant supernatural issues and weren't 'normal'). As a good example, Watanuki has done a boatload of good deeds, and the Universe (and Yuuko in not so subtle ways) continues to shit all over him and his life.



* If I had to guess, I'd say that the current slowness is stalling for ''Tsubasa'' to reach a certain point. Whatever is scheduled to happen next in xxxHoLic, it is probably linked with an event [=TSR=], and so they have to wait for the latter series to get out of subspace, flashbacks and backstory and back into realtime events or else one series will spoil the other.

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* If I had to guess, I'd say that the current slowness is stalling for ''Tsubasa'' to reach a certain point. Whatever is scheduled to happen next in xxxHoLic, ''[=×××HOLiC=]'', it is probably linked with an event [=TSR=], and so they have to wait for the latter series to get out of subspace, flashbacks and backstory and back into realtime events or else one series will spoil the other.



*** Confirmed. TRC chapter 231 takes place within ''[=xxxHOLiC=]'' chapter 184, which reveals that [[spoiler: Watanuki KNOWS! About himself, his parents, and about how Yuuko's actually been there for him from the very beginning]]. And in the latest chappie, Mokona[[spoiler:'s earring is gone]]. At this point, it's pretty unnecessary, don't you think? Watanuki [[spoiler: knows]] and c!Sakura [[spoiler: has disappeared]]. It makes much more sense now. Surprisingly, though, the egg wasn't mentioned at all...

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*** Confirmed. TRC chapter 231 takes place within ''[=xxxHOLiC=]'' ''[=×××HOLiC=]'' chapter 184, which reveals that [[spoiler: Watanuki KNOWS! About himself, his parents, and about how Yuuko's actually been there for him from the very beginning]]. And in the latest chappie, Mokona[[spoiler:'s earring is gone]]. At this point, it's pretty unnecessary, don't you think? Watanuki [[spoiler: knows]] and c!Sakura [[spoiler: has disappeared]]. It makes much more sense now. Surprisingly, though, the egg wasn't mentioned at all...



*** The Main Reason would be for the ''Tsubasa'' manga to catch up with ''[=xxxHolic=]'' and not spoil anything. I think.

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*** The Main Reason would be for the ''Tsubasa'' manga to catch up with ''[=xxxHolic=]'' ''[=×××HOLiC=]'' and not spoil anything. I think.



* There is a second season called xxxholic: Kei. In one of the first few episodes, which focuses on dreams, Watanuki and Yuko travel to another world where they meet a creature who deals in selling and buying dreams. I remember seeing, shortly before they meet the dream merchant, that Yuko was holding a porn magazine. I donít even remember seeing her pick it up or do anything with it.

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* There is a second season called xxxholic: Kei.''[=×××HOLiC=]: Kei''. In one of the first few episodes, which focuses on dreams, Watanuki and Yuko travel to another world where they meet a creature who deals in selling and buying dreams. I remember seeing, shortly before they meet the dream merchant, that Yuko was holding a porn magazine. I donít even remember seeing her pick it up or do anything with it.
18th Apr '18 7:34:58 PM Summonwind
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** I am pretty sure that the Clone Sakura mentioned that she had Toya as her brother in this world so she had at least one brother.
11th Dec '17 10:58:20 AM jujuland
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** On top of that, the fortune teller says that [[spoiler: the world Watanuki came from is not the one that he is in. Syaoran Jr. was sent to Yuuko's shop from the World that Watanuki came from, so his family would be in a different world.]]
8th Sep '15 10:50:04 AM Willbyr
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* Remember that this series crosses over with Tsubasa and their Mokona is always sending stuff over to Yuuko. The group go to different worlds with different money. It's not unlikely that Mokona takes any extra money and sends it to Yuuko, who then may trade some of it (keeping some for her collection) to some sort of collector for the cash. And since this money can't be found anywhere else in her world, she can probably get a boat load of cash for it.
* Near the end of the Infinity Arc in Tsubasa, in exchange for going after Sakura to Celes, they give Yuuko their prize money for winning 'Chess'

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* Remember that this series crosses over with Tsubasa ''Tsubasa'' and their Mokona is always sending stuff over to Yuuko. The group go to different worlds with different money. It's not unlikely that Mokona takes any extra money and sends it to Yuuko, who then may trade some of it (keeping some for her collection) to some sort of collector for the cash. And since this money can't be found anywhere else in her world, she can probably get a boat load of cash for it.
* Near the end of the Infinity Arc in Tsubasa, ''Tsubasa'', in exchange for going after Sakura to Celes, they give Yuuko their prize money for winning 'Chess'



** Heck, even more than that, have you looked at Creator/{{CLAMP}}'s manga trends for over the past decade since, gee, I guess X/1999? Rayearth, CardCaptor Sakura, Angelic Layer, Chobits (to say nothing of more minor titles like Clover, etc.)...all their manga have focused primarily on women as much as possible even when you'd suspect otherwise or when there's one main male protagonist. The sole exceptions to this are Tsubasa, which gets a pass for its essential nature as the CLAMP Crossover Crisis, and Gohou Drug, which they cancelle...I mean, put on Clamp-Hiatus before it got anywhere.

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** Heck, even more than that, have you looked at Creator/{{CLAMP}}'s manga trends for over the past decade since, gee, I guess X/1999? Rayearth, CardCaptor Sakura, Angelic Layer, Chobits (to say nothing of more minor titles like Clover, etc.)...all their manga have focused primarily on women as much as possible even when you'd suspect otherwise or when there's one main male protagonist. The sole exceptions to this are Tsubasa, ''Tsubasa'', which gets a pass for its essential nature as the CLAMP Crossover Crisis, and Gohou Drug, which they cancelle...I mean, put on Clamp-Hiatus before it got anywhere.



* Alright, if I've interpreted the new chapter of Tsubasa Chronicle correctly, it would seem that [[spoiler: Watanuki's parents were actually the clones of Sakura and Syaoran and thus he does not have and has in fact never had any extended family whatsoever, unless we start counting Fei Wang Reed or something.]] So yeah.

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* Alright, if I've interpreted the new chapter of Tsubasa Chronicle ''Tsubasa Chronicle'' correctly, it would seem that [[spoiler: Watanuki's parents were actually the clones of Sakura and Syaoran and thus he does not have and has in fact never had any extended family whatsoever, unless we start counting Fei Wang Reed or something.]] So yeah.



* If I had to guess, I'd say that the current slowness is stalling for Tsubasa to reach a certain point. Whatever is scheduled to happen next in xxxHoLic, it is probably linked with an event [=TSR=], and so they have to wait for the latter series to get out of subspace, flashbacks and backstory and back into realtime events or else one series will spoil the other.
** In other words, its an unfortunate consequence of the temporally confusing order of TsubasaReservoirChronicle.
*** Confirmed. TRC chapter 231 takes place within xxxHOLiC chapter 184, which reveals that [[spoiler: Watanuki KNOWS! About himself, his parents, and about how Yuuko's actually been there for him from the very beginning]]. And in the latest chappie, Mokona[[spoiler:'s earring is gone]]. At this point, it's pretty unnecessary, don't you think? Watanuki [[spoiler: knows]] and c!Sakura [[spoiler: has disappeared]]. It makes much more sense now. Surprisingly, though, the egg wasn't mentioned at all...

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* If I had to guess, I'd say that the current slowness is stalling for Tsubasa ''Tsubasa'' to reach a certain point. Whatever is scheduled to happen next in xxxHoLic, it is probably linked with an event [=TSR=], and so they have to wait for the latter series to get out of subspace, flashbacks and backstory and back into realtime events or else one series will spoil the other.
** In other words, its an unfortunate consequence of the temporally confusing order of TsubasaReservoirChronicle.
''Tsubasa''.
*** Confirmed. TRC chapter 231 takes place within xxxHOLiC ''[=xxxHOLiC=]'' chapter 184, which reveals that [[spoiler: Watanuki KNOWS! About himself, his parents, and about how Yuuko's actually been there for him from the very beginning]]. And in the latest chappie, Mokona[[spoiler:'s earring is gone]]. At this point, it's pretty unnecessary, don't you think? Watanuki [[spoiler: knows]] and c!Sakura [[spoiler: has disappeared]]. It makes much more sense now. Surprisingly, though, the egg wasn't mentioned at all...



*** The Main Reason would be for the Tsubasa manga to catch up with XxxHolic and not spoil anything. I think.

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*** The Main Reason would be for the Tsubasa ''Tsubasa'' manga to catch up with XxxHolic ''[=xxxHolic=]'' and not spoil anything. I think.
30th Aug '15 7:01:16 PM Willbyr
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** Recent events have strongly hinted that [[spoiler: Kakei is in fact the Angel of Wind Hisui from {{Wish}}. This would explain why he still remembers Yuko. He's a divine being and not human]]. Not to mention Doumeki also remembers Yuuko as well.

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** Recent events have strongly hinted that [[spoiler: Kakei is in fact the Angel of Wind Hisui from {{Wish}}.Manga/{{Wish}}. This would explain why he still remembers Yuko. He's a divine being and not human]]. Not to mention Doumeki also remembers Yuuko as well.



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2nd Apr '14 8:34:33 PM princensoren
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** Watanuki has always talked to [[Main/ThinkingOutLoud strange]] [[Main/TalkingToPlants things]]. [[spoiler: In the new Rei chapters he's seen responding to a television [[Main/HearingVoices that never said a word]].]]

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** Watanuki has always talked to [[Main/ThinkingOutLoud strange]] [[Main/TalkingToPlants things]]. [[spoiler: In the new Rei chapters he's seen responding to a television that [[Main/HearingVoices that never said a word]].]]
2nd Apr '14 6:55:41 PM princensoren
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** Watanuki has always talked to [[Main/TalkingToHimself strange]] [[Main/TalkingToPlants things]]. [[spoiler: In the new Rei chapters he's seen responding to a television [[Main/HearingVoices that never said a word]].]]

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** Watanuki has always talked to [[Main/TalkingToHimself [[Main/ThinkingOutLoud strange]] [[Main/TalkingToPlants things]]. [[spoiler: In the new Rei chapters he's seen responding to a television [[Main/HearingVoices that never said a word]].]]
2nd Apr '14 5:25:24 PM princensoren
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** Watanuki has always talked to Main/TalkingToHimself strange Main/TalkingToPlants things. [[spoiler: In the new Rei chapters he's seen responding to a television Main/HearingVoices that never said a word.]]

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** Watanuki has always talked to Main/TalkingToHimself strange Main/TalkingToPlants things. [[Main/TalkingToHimself strange]] [[Main/TalkingToPlants things]]. [[spoiler: In the new Rei chapters he's seen responding to a television Main/HearingVoices [[Main/HearingVoices that never said a word.word]].]]
2nd Apr '14 5:19:10 PM princensoren
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**Watanuki has always talked to Main/TalkingToHimself strange Main/TalkingToPlants things. [[spoiler: In the new Rei chapters he's seen responding to a television Main/HearingVoices that never said a word.]]
29th Oct '13 12:35:09 AM Aretsuna
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***Actually, this "xxx" is how you write "fill in the blank" in Japanese, and you don't read it, you just put some other word in this place. It's quite common in language coursebooks. And since CLAMP are Japanese, it's only natural for them to use this.
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