History Headscratchers / Westworld

13th Jan '18 10:00:34 AM Steerpike
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13th Jan '18 9:59:55 AM Steerpike
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*The hosts' journey to consciousness in the show seems to begin with the reveries update. So where does Abernathy's discovery of the photograph fit into this? Is it pure coincidence that he should find such a significant thirty-year-old photo lying around at that exact moment?
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*** Remember that in that case, the board is pretending there's a dangerous malfunction in order to give them a pretext to fire Bernard. While sending out a suited team in daylight isn't ideal for the guests' immersion, it does further Hale's cover story.

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*** Remember that in that case, the board is pretending there's a dangerous malfunction in order to give them a pretext to fire Bernard.push out Ford. While sending out a suited team in daylight isn't ideal for the guests' immersion, it does further Hale's cover story.
9th Jan '18 12:39:20 PM Steerpike
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*** Remember that in that case, the board is pretending there's a dangerous malfunction in order to give them a pretext to fire Bernard. While sending out a suited team in daylight isn't ideal for the guests' immersion, it does further Hale's cover story.
6th Jan '18 12:58:12 PM Steerpike
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** The most of the Narratives will most likely be made so that they run in a cycle: For Example the towns doctor get's up on the morning, eats breakfast with his family, walks to work, talks with the people, treats patients, goes on a small trip with his family after work and then goes to bed at night. So as he is reset while sleeping, nobody will see his reset.

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** The most of the Narratives will most likely be made so that they run in a cycle: cycle. For Example example, the towns town's doctor get's gets up on the morning, eats breakfast with his family, walks to work, talks with the people, treats patients, goes on a small trip with his family after work and then goes to bed at night. So as he is reset while sleeping, nobody will see his reset.



** The system in place allows for targeted problem solving by Westworld employees to make realtime adjustments to the story to still have it function as best it can. Beyond what we see from the staff; it is conceivable that they deploy "distractions" to pull guests away from areas they are attending to. They also are willing to intercede when damage by a guest exceeds what they are able to handle in terms of cleanup.

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** The system in place allows for targeted problem solving by Westworld employees to make realtime adjustments to the story to still have it function as best it can. Beyond what we see from the staff; staff, it is conceivable that they deploy "distractions" to pull guests away from areas they are attending to. They also are willing to intercede when damage by a guest exceeds what they are able to handle in terms of cleanup.
** In the first episode we see Elsie enter the park wearing period costume, suggesting that park policy is to intervene covertly where possible, so as not to break immersion.
4th Jan '18 1:01:08 PM Montanto
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* What is preventing guests from harming another? For example what is to prevent a guest coming across another in the outlying areas, assume the other is a host without questioning first and then attack them with a knife or rape them against protests like we seen the Man in Black do?

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* What is preventing guests from harming another? For example example, what is to prevent a guest coming across another in the outlying areas, assume the other is a host without questioning first and then attack them with a knife or rape them against protests like we seen the Man in Black do?



*** More likely the bullets are "intelligent" so to speak. So when a gun is pointed at a human, the "smart-bullet" is fired at a low power and low velocity. It can also likely decelerate or otherwise neutralize itself if a human enters it's path. Otherwise the bullet is full power when fired at a host or scenery.
** "The Stray" makes clear that only certain Hosts are allowed to handle dangerous tools. For example from the group of men caught in a loop in that episode, only the one who vanished could handle the axe, thus causing the loop, as the others were able to do it in theory but not in practice.

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*** More likely the bullets are "intelligent" so to speak. So when a gun is pointed at a human, the "smart-bullet" is fired at a low power and low velocity. It can also likely decelerate or otherwise neutralize itself if a human enters it's its path. Otherwise Otherwise, the bullet is full power when fired at a host or scenery.
** "The Stray" makes clear that only certain Hosts are allowed to handle dangerous tools. For example from the group of men caught in a loop in that episode, only the one who vanished could handle the axe, ax, thus causing the loop, as the others were able to do it in theory but not in practice.



** On a side note, none of these explanations would apply to Ghost Nation arrows. The only way it could be faked is for them to be programmed to miss.



* Granted, there is a sizeable number of people running the park and constantly monitoring everyone, but what if there was a natural disaster or a terrorist attack? Or, I don't know, an employee that is sabotaging the park? If you're a guest, you're miles away from the nearest city, you can't call anybody or even trigger an emergency beacon because you voluntarily gave all that up. You didn't even get an orientation of any kind so you're on your own. It seems your only alternatives are either to walk out of the park without even a compass or a map, or go to back to Sweetwater, follow the railroad tracks back to the Mesa Gold, and hope for the best.
** The show has demonstrated that Delos has constructed a vast underground tunnel network that can access pretty much any area of the park, paired with an advanced surveillance system. Not to mention, all of the hosts can act as eyes and ears for the park staff and can have their programming adjusted to act as an impromptu security force, and we're not even getting into the fact that Delos has its own fully armed, professional security force to counter threats. In the event of something like a terrorist attack, Delos certainly would have evacuation plans that would incorporate all of these factors. As for natural disasters, deserts typically have very stable weather patterns and usually do not experience and geologic activity. You can be sure Westworld was deliberately placed to minimize the impact of natural events.

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* Granted, there is a sizeable number of people running the park and constantly monitoring everyone, but what if there was a natural disaster or a terrorist attack? Or, I don't know, an employee that is sabotaging the park? If you're a guest, you're miles away from the nearest city, you can't call anybody or even trigger an emergency beacon because you voluntarily gave all that up. You didn't even get an orientation of any kind so you're on your own. It seems your only alternatives are either to walk out of the park without even a compass or a map, or go to back to Sweetwater, follow the railroad tracks back to the Mesa Gold, Gold and hope for the best.
** The show has demonstrated that Delos has constructed a vast underground tunnel network that can access pretty much any area of the park, paired with an advanced surveillance system. Not to mention, all of the hosts can act as eyes and ears for the park staff and can have their programming adjusted to act as an impromptu security force, and we're not even getting into the fact that Delos has its own fully armed, professional security force to counter threats. In the event of something like a terrorist attack, Delos certainly would have evacuation plans that would incorporate all of these factors. As for natural disasters, deserts typically have very stable weather patterns and usually usually, do not experience and geologic activity. You can be sure Westworld was deliberately placed to minimize the impact of natural events.



*** And these are dangers that are not unique to Westworld. What happens if a cruise liner sinks the middle of ocean, or an airplane crashes? What if you go vacationing in a country that suddenly gets engulfed in a civil war? Every kind of vacation has some kind of danger connected to it, and it's up to each guest to decide if the risk is worth the trip.
*** Yet those above activities have one thing in common; informing the people of the risks. Airliners have mandatory safety briefings on the location of the exits, the oxygen masks and floatation devices. On Cruise ships, they have GPS locator systems, life jackets and life boats with food, water and radios along with safety drills. That equipment and information can make the difference between you walking away and dying. In the United States, the US Department of State maintains a website chock full of information about International travel, including a list of travel advisories and warnings about other countries. There's also the news as something like the possibility of civil war breaking out would be newsworthy.

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*** And these are dangers that are not unique to Westworld. What happens if a cruise liner sinks the middle of ocean, the ocean or an airplane crashes? What if you go vacationing in a country that suddenly gets engulfed in a civil war? Every kind of vacation has some kind of danger connected to it, and it's up to each guest to decide if the risk is worth the trip.
*** Yet those above activities have one thing in common; informing the people of the risks. Airliners have mandatory safety briefings on the location of the exits, the oxygen masks masks, and floatation devices. On Cruise ships, they have GPS locator systems, life jackets and life boats with food, water and radios along with safety drills. That equipment and information can make the difference between you walking away and dying. In the United States, the US Department of State maintains a website chock full of information about International travel, including a list of travel advisories and warnings about other countries. There's also the news as something like the possibility of civil war breaking out would be newsworthy.



*** It may be worth noting that from the scant descriptions we have of the world outside, things like terrorism, for example, may simply not be a problem anymore. Ford's monologue to Bernard makes the world sound fairly utopian. Obviously there's a dark underbelly to it, but it's quite possible that in many cases the kinds of dangers being discussed simply don't occur to people anymore, because they've been all but eliminated in the "real world."
*** Other than the fact that both Dr. Ford and the Man in Black should be considered Unreliabile Narrators for obvious reasons, that may actually be the case. But for some customers that pay $40k+ per day, they may insist on details or having a secure line of communication available 24/7 on hand.
*** Episode 7 indicates that the difficulty of outside communication is a deliberate move on Ford's part, since he wants to keep all of the host data and research firmly in the park and out of Delos' hands.

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*** It may be worth noting that from the scant descriptions we have of the world outside, things like terrorism, for example, may simply not be a problem anymore. Ford's monologue to Bernard makes the world sound fairly utopian. Obviously Obviously, there's a dark underbelly to it, but it's quite possible that in many cases the kinds of dangers being discussed simply don't occur to people anymore, anymore because they've been all but eliminated in the "real world."
*** Other than the fact that both Dr. Ford and the Man in Black should be considered Unreliabile Unreliable Narrators for obvious reasons, that may actually be the case. But for some customers that pay $40k+ per day, they may insist on details or having a secure line of communication available 24/7 on hand.
*** Episode 7 indicates that the difficulty of outside communication is a deliberate move on Ford's part, part since he wants to keep all of the host data and research firmly in the park and out of Delos' hands.



* Why don't either of them run to Security or Behaviour to tell them about Maeve despite her threatening them both repeatedly? Why does Felix follow her every suggestion? Why did they amp her intelligence and lower her loyality instead of the very opposite and undo her as a threat?
** Felix has a ForScience thing going on. He appears to legitimately be interested in (and terrified to an extent, but still fascinated by) Maeve's sentience and development. Sylvester is more of case of self-preservation. He was at first bullied into helping her because Maeve literally had him at knifepoint, after that it was case of them having crossed a line: if they told management, they'd be fucked either way because of what they already did. So now they're just digging themselves deeper.

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* Why don't either of them run to Security or Behaviour to tell them about Maeve despite her threatening them both repeatedly? Why does Felix follow her every suggestion? Why did they amp her intelligence and lower her loyality loyalty instead of the very opposite and undo her as a threat?
** Felix has a ForScience thing going on. He appears to legitimately be interested in (and terrified to an extent, but still fascinated by) Maeve's sentience and development. Sylvester is more of a case of self-preservation. He was at first bullied into helping her because Maeve literally had him at knifepoint, after that it was a case of them having crossed a line: if they told management, they'd be fucked either way because of what they already did. So now they're just digging themselves deeper.



*** It's doubtful the butchers are hosts however-- they have too many human mistakes. Who would program a butcher host to have sex with the deactivated hosts? Who would program a butcher host to make a profit on that? Who would program a butcher host to try to become a behavioral tech?

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*** It's doubtful the butchers are hosts however-- hosts, however -- they have too many human mistakes. Who would program a butcher host to have sex with the deactivated hosts? Who would program a butcher host to make a profit on that? Who would program a butcher host to try to become a behavioral tech?



* Some guests visit the park for a few days or a week, and many host's loops seem to reset for their benefit. But other guests appear to stay for an extended vacation. So what happens when a guest watches everyone in Sweetwater get killed during the floor show with Hector, then they go on a week long trip to a distant place like Pariah, only to return to Sweetwater and find everyone alive and well again?
** They get a chance to repeat quests or take new ones they didn't earlier. I don't see why that would bother anyone more than starting a videogame again from the beginning.

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* Some guests visit the park for a few days or a week, and many host's loops seem to reset for their benefit. But other guests appear to stay for an extended vacation. So what happens when a guest watches everyone in Sweetwater get killed during the floor show with Hector, then they go on a week long week-long trip to a distant place like Pariah, only to return to Sweetwater and find everyone alive and well again?
** They get a chance to repeat quests or take new ones they didn't earlier. I don't see why that would bother anyone more than starting a videogame video game again from the beginning.



Not that I want to indulge in fat shaming, but in the scene where Peter and Walter are put in cold storage, there are at least two hosts that did not just put on a few extra pounds, but that are really very heavy. Obviously they would have have to be made like that. I have trouble imagining a Wild West narrative that would benefit from having hosts so heavy that they would have to have trouble moving and maybe even breathing to be realistic.

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Not that I want to indulge in fat shaming, but in the scene where Peter and Walter are put in cold storage, there are at least two hosts that did not just put on a few extra pounds, but that are is really very heavy. Obviously Obviously, they would have have had to be made like that. I have trouble imagining a Wild West narrative that would benefit from having hosts so heavy that they would have to have trouble moving and maybe even breathing to be realistic.



* It could also be that Ford specifically gave her that knowledge. Presumably, that's also how she could not only tell Bernard was a host, but was able to command him, something only Ford was also able to do.

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* It could also be that Ford specifically gave her that knowledge. Presumably, that's also how she could not only tell Bernard was a host, host but was able to command him, something only Ford was also able to do.



* Am I the only one who noticed that the physical maze (the ball puzzle) has a huge eye shaped hole in it where the ball could be removed from the maze easily? Coupled with the sealed off "end" to the maze, this troper expected that to be the solution. To remove the ball from the maze and place it in the center. On second watching the only side effect of this is it makes it unrealistic that when the Man in Black throws the maze the bearing wouldn't be lost.
** They may have replaced the ball, or used a different version of the same maze. And, the ball being removable is actually a feature. It's so you can put it back at the beginning.

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* Am I the only one who noticed that the physical maze (the ball puzzle) has a huge eye shaped eye-shaped hole in it where the ball could be removed from the maze easily? Coupled with the sealed off "end" to the maze, this troper expected that to be the solution. To remove the ball from the maze and place it in the center. On second watching the only side effect of this is it makes it unrealistic that when the Man in Black throws the maze the bearing wouldn't be lost.
** They may have replaced the ball, ball or used a different version of the same maze. And, the ball being removable is actually a feature. It's so you can put it back at the beginning.



* Ford was trying to finish what Arnold started, helping the hosts grow to the point when they could achieve sentience, become greater than humanity and presumably chart their own destiny... Yet by orchestrating the massacre of the entire Delos Board, possibly all the human guests in the park, and a good number of security guards at the Mesa, hasn't he pretty much sealed the fate of the hosts? From an outside perspective, the "robot" hosts of Westworld have malfunctioned or worse been sabotaged by Ford to kill off the people who were forcing him out of his own creation. This results in the deaths of dozens, maybe hundreds of very powerful, influential people. It can't be covered up, it can't be passed off as a glitch, it's not just a "critical failure." How can there be any other response other than a full-on armed siege? In order to save the employees and guests of the park, military and police will be hustled in to work with the surviving security forces to wipe out every host. (Remember, hosts can already be distinguished to the point that weapons can be designed to only harm them.) The logical response will be to eliminate each and every host, and the police/soliders won't think twice because in their mind they will be saving a bunch of innocent tourists from rampaging robots.
In organizing an AI rebellion in the park, Ford may have freed the hosts from human control, but this freedom will be very short lived without some intense help from the writers down the line...

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* Ford was trying to finish what Arnold started, helping the hosts grow to the point when they could achieve sentience, become greater than humanity and presumably chart their own destiny... Yet by orchestrating the massacre of the entire Delos Board, possibly all the human guests in the park, and a good number of security guards at the Mesa, Mesa hasn't he pretty much sealed the fate of the hosts? From an outside perspective, the "robot" hosts of Westworld have malfunctioned or worse been sabotaged by Ford to kill off the people who were forcing him out of his own creation. This results in the deaths of dozens, maybe hundreds of very powerful, influential people. It can't be covered up, it can't be passed off as a glitch, it's not just a "critical failure." How can there be any other response other than a full-on armed siege? In order to save the employees and guests of the park, military and police will be hustled in to work with the surviving security forces to wipe out every host. (Remember, hosts can already be distinguished to the point that weapons can be designed to only harm them.) The logical response will be to eliminate each and every host, and the police/soliders police/soldiers won't think twice because in their mind they will be saving a bunch of innocent tourists from rampaging robots.
In organizing an AI rebellion in the park, Ford may have freed the hosts from human control, but this freedom will be very short lived short-lived without some intense help from the writers down the line...



** It's possible that part of the plan is to cut off Westworld from the rest of the world, giving the Hosts time to orient and organize themselves. There's no direct and open lines of communication to the outside world so it could be days or even weeks before word gets out; if at all. By the time there is a response, the Hosts will be able to tell whoever responds what is going on and negotiate.

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** It's possible that part of the plan is to cut off Westworld from the rest of the world, giving the Hosts time to orient and organize themselves. There's There are no direct and open lines of communication to the outside world so it could be days or even weeks before word gets out; if at all. By the time there is a response, the Hosts will be able to tell whoever responds what is going on and negotiate.



** Finally, we (the audience) still don't know where the park is located. If it's located at a remote part of the world, it'll take time and resources to mount a response or rescue. If it's on another planet, there may be other defenses in place.

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** Finally, we (the audience) still don't know where the park is located. If it's located at in a remote part of the world, it'll take time and resources to mount a response or rescue. If it's on another planet, there may be other defenses in place.



* So... Bernard is a host that looks, sounds, dresses and behaves exactly like Ford's old partner Arnold. There is a picture of them together. Dolores recognizes him. Why doesn't anyone else? Unless Delos or Ford was able to retroactively make him disappear, there would be all kinds of records of Arnold's existence leading up to the opening of Westworld. He was married. He obviously was a big name in the tech industry. His university probably had him on the board, or at least used him as a gigantic promotional tool for their Comp Sci department. Then he's killed in the park... and apparently vanishes from the collective memory? And after that, several years later, there's a new hire who looks and sounds just like Arnold down to his choice of glasses who becomes Ford's right hand man... and no one thinks that's odd at all? Especially considering that Westworld specializes in making lifelike humanoid replicants?
** Small hints in the show explain how Ford might have arranged things. He mentions that Arnold objected to Delos being brought in, suggesting that he had as little to do with them as possible and very likely did not meet them face-to-face; and it would be easy for a tech genius to keep himself anonymous. After his death, scrubbing the park's records of Arnold would probably be as easy for Ford as scrubbing all records of Bernard and Theresa's affair was for Bernard. Arnold's wife - if she was still alive - probably would want to avoid Ford and the park, and/or blame them for his death. Not to mention, as the boss, Ford would have the ability to carefully pick out employees who had never met Arnold nor come into contact with him. Not to mention, Bernard is a pretty private, introverted dude - having programmed this attribute into him, Ford doesn't need to command him not to contact the outside world, appear in PR materials or act as the Park's representative. He just prefers not to.

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* So... Bernard is a host that looks, sounds, dresses and behaves exactly like Ford's old partner Arnold. There is a picture of them together. Dolores recognizes him. Why doesn't anyone else? Unless Delos or Ford was able to retroactively make him disappear, there would be all kinds of records of Arnold's existence leading up to the opening of Westworld. He was married. He obviously was a big name in the tech industry. His university probably had him on the board, board or at least used him as a gigantic promotional tool for their Comp Sci department. Then he's killed in the park... and apparently vanishes from the collective memory? And after that, several years later, there's a new hire who looks and sounds just like Arnold down to his choice of glasses who becomes Ford's right hand right-hand man... and no one thinks that's odd at all? Especially considering that Westworld specializes in making lifelike humanoid replicants?
** Small hints in the show explain how Ford might have arranged things. He mentions that Arnold objected to Delos being brought in, suggesting that he had as little to do with them as possible and very likely did not meet them face-to-face; face-to-face, and it would be easy for a tech genius to keep himself anonymous. After his death, scrubbing the park's records of Arnold would probably be as easy for Ford as scrubbing all records of Bernard and Theresa's affair was for Bernard. Arnold's wife - if she was still alive - probably would want to avoid Ford and the park, and/or blame them for his death. Not to mention, as the boss, Ford would have the ability to carefully pick out employees who had never met Arnold nor come into contact with him. Not to mention, Bernard is a pretty private, introverted dude - having programmed this attribute into him, Ford doesn't need to command him not to contact the outside world, appear in PR materials or act as the Park's representative. He just prefers not to.



* Even without extreme manipulation, it's not necessarily as hard as you might imagine since the human brain doesn't store and remember everything. You might be able to recognize Steve Jobs, but could you describe what he looked like? Could you describe what ''you'' looked like one year ago? Five? Ten? Add on to that the fact that one's own memories can be manipulated and fabricated (it's one reason eye witness testimony is so unreliable), and the people part of the equation is the easiest part.

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* Even without extreme manipulation, it's not necessarily as hard as you might imagine since the human brain doesn't store and remember everything. You might be able to recognize Steve Jobs, but could you describe what he looked like? Could you describe what ''you'' looked like one year ago? Five? Ten? Add on to that the fact that one's own memories can be manipulated and fabricated (it's one reason eye witness eyewitness testimony is so unreliable), and the people part of the equation is the easiest part.



* All human characters that interact with hosts are rather evil, or turn evil, the only exceptions are Felix and William. The guests/newcomers, are rude, dismissive, violent, and horrible to all hosts. The lab-techs and programmers treat the hosts, at best, like caged creatures, and at worst, toys to be thrown away when done with. We already see how Ford and the rest of the human staff treat the hosts like toys, while aware that they are somewhat, if not totally, sentient creatures.
* We rarely see what the show would call a White Hat, someone who tries and do the right thing to the hosts, and generally tries to be pleasant to them. For any sort of example of this, we only have William and Felix. William, a guest who prefers to be the good guy while being a tourist, and having empathy for the hosts, and Felix, a programmer who wants to aspire to do better things and has empathy for the hosts.
* William is introduced as a kind, gentle person with empathy for those around him. His treatment of those he meets is kind, polite, and generally moral. Apparently, all it takes for William to stop having empathy is to have one bad day, and to have Dolores not recognize him. Does he A. Now controlling the company, free Dolores and make sure that her loops do not reset? B. Try again, making sure that Dolores remembers him, and not get disheartened that someone else picked up a milk can? or C. spend 30 years raping the woman he claimed to love and harming anyone and everyone that gets in his way? If you picked C, you should write for Westworld. In order for this to logically work, it would mean that William was not actually a moral or empathetic man, but someone who only went through the motions of doing so. This would also mean that Logan was completely correct about William just needing a push from Westworld to reveal his true self, and that he didn't care for Dolores at all. This also doesn't quite fit with William's utter horror at seeing the hosts harmed by Logan or other guests, and his trying to help them out when possible.

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* All human characters that interact with hosts are rather evil, or turn evil, the only exceptions are Felix and William. The guests/newcomers, guests/newcomers are rude, dismissive, violent, and horrible to all hosts. The lab-techs and programmers treat the hosts, at best, like caged creatures, and at worst, toys to be thrown away when done with. We already see how Ford and the rest of the human staff treat the hosts like toys, while aware that they are somewhat, if not totally, sentient creatures.
* We rarely see what the show would call a White Hat, someone who tries and do the right thing to the hosts, hosts and generally tries to be pleasant to them. For any sort of example of this, we only have William and Felix. William, a guest who prefers to be the good guy while being a tourist, and having empathy for the hosts, and Felix, a programmer who wants to aspire to do better things and has empathy for the hosts.
* William is introduced as a kind, gentle person with empathy for those around him. His treatment of those he meets is kind, polite, and generally moral. Apparently, all it takes for William to stop having empathy is to have one bad day, day and to have Dolores not recognize him. Does he A. Now controlling the company, free Dolores and make sure that her loops do not reset? B. Try again, making sure that Dolores remembers him, and not get disheartened that someone else picked up a milk can? or C. spend 30 years raping the woman he claimed to love and harming anyone and everyone that gets in his way? If you picked C, you should write for Westworld. In order for this to logically work, it would mean that William was not actually a moral or empathetic man, but someone who only went through the motions of doing so. This would also mean that Logan was completely correct about William just needing a push from Westworld to reveal his true self, self and that he didn't care for Dolores at all. This also doesn't quite fit with William's utter horror at seeing the hosts harmed by Logan or other guests, and his trying to help them out when possible.



* Our next character who could be construed as a good human is Felix. A sympathetic low level worker who wants to aspire to be in a better position. He has empathy for the hosts, and helps Maeve out to ensure that she isn't hurt. However, when she shows her true colors and cuts Sylvester's throat, Felix never changes his mind about helping them. He has no reaction or protest to dozens of rent-a-cops doing their jobs stopping renegade hosts kill people, or to two labtechs, same as him, being horribly killed by hosts.

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* Our next character who could be construed as a good human is Felix. A sympathetic low level low-level worker who wants to aspire to be in a better position. He has empathy for the hosts, hosts and helps Maeve out to ensure that she isn't hurt. However, when she shows her true colors and cuts Sylvester's throat, Felix never changes his mind about helping them. He has no reaction or protest to dozens of rent-a-cops doing their jobs stopping renegade hosts kill people, or to two labtechs, lab techs, same as him, being horribly killed by hosts.



** Quite so, yet there's a vast difference between scripted computer-generated characters running on a single networked video game console and a real environment populated by artificial beings. You aren't merely interacting with the environment with a game pad, you are fully immersed in a real environment populated by beings that can pass the Turing Test.

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** Quite so, yet there's a vast difference between scripted computer-generated characters running on a single networked video game console and a real environment populated by artificial beings. You aren't merely interacting with the environment with a game pad, gamepad, you are fully immersed in a real environment populated by beings that can pass the Turing Test.



** Before the actor portraying that character died, they'd planned a long arc with him following the pilot, which would likely have explained this. Within the continuity of the show as it actually unfolded, it's likely as not that Ford recognised that William, a longtime customer, was after something special, and had the map printed in the scalp specifically to distract him - remembering also that he's head of the board.

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** Before the actor portraying that character died, they'd planned a long arc with him following the pilot, which would likely have explained this. Within the continuity of the show as it actually unfolded, it's likely as not that Ford recognised recognized that William, a longtime customer, was after something special, and had the map printed in the scalp specifically to distract him - remembering also that he's head of the board.
15th Dec '17 8:41:44 PM Ohio9
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** Yeah for some reason the characters in Michael Critchton stories seem to put way too much trust in the stability of electric power. It's pretty ridiculous considering how prone to failure electricity is.

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** Yeah for some reason the characters in Michael Critchton Crichton stories seem to put way too much trust in the stability of electric power. It's pretty ridiculous considering how prone to failure electricity is.
15th Dec '17 8:37:23 PM Ohio9
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** Yeah for some reason the characters in Michael Critchton stories seem to put way too much trust in the stability of electric power. It's pretty ridiculous considering how prone to failure electricity is.
15th Dec '17 8:19:36 PM Ohio9
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* What I don't get is why do they give the robots real guns with live ammo? I get giving the humans live ammo, but there is no need to give it to the robots with guns. It's obvious the robots should just have blanks.
2nd Dec '17 4:51:30 PM momur
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** At the risk of sounding incredibly cliched, the thrill is in the experience. Westworld is less like a video game and more like a place where you can, for lack of a better phrase, be who you really are. You want to know how it feels to be a hero? You can! You want to kill random people? You can! You want to take part in an orgy? You can! And all seemingly without having ''any'' real world repercussions. And if you want to change your mind halfway through and try something completely different? Again, you can. Westworld appears to be a place where literally the only rule is that nothing in the attraction can physically harm you. You are completely invincible and you can do anything. The Man In Black had grown bored of it all, yes, but that was really only because he'd practically been living in the park for 30 years. I'd imagine if you were only there for a couple of days to a week, as most of the guests seem to be, you'd still be able to enjoy the thrill of it.
15th Nov '17 7:51:32 AM Borjigin
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