History Headscratchers / WWE

24th Sep '17 3:51:13 PM ZeoSpark16
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** Because he's so hell bent on pushing "big men" especially with Reigns being related to the Rock (and trying to push Reigns as the [[ReplacementScrappy next John Cena]]). Problem is, [[TheScrappy Roman Reigns]] [[HateSink is one of the most hated wrestlers]] [[CreatorsPet in the WWE right now]] due to being a MASSIVE Creator's Pet. It doesn't help that Reigns tends to [[NoSell No Sell]] moves and has a lackluster moveset (mainly moves used by TONS of other wrestlers instead of anything unique or uncommon). Also, despite being a SUPPOSE face in the ring, Reigns tends to be a [[MeanCharacterNiceActor massive douchebag outside of the ring]] (I remember him tweeting to a disrespecting fan that he will [[DudeNotFunny die alone]]; I know that fan was being an ass but Reigns crossed the line by saying that).
5th Sep '17 3:50:39 PM JC96
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** It doesn't make those PPVs unique. With gimmick matches like TLC or Extreme Rules matches, they were always there as a blow-off to any major long-term s
toryline feud they had going on between opponents. Money in the Bank, Royal Rumble and Elimination Chamber make sense in that you never know who could come out on top in them, which adds that sense of unpredictability to them. But for other gimmick-themed PPVs like TLC or Hell in the Cell, they're just there to set up matches without the storyline buildup used for feuds before the PG era and it makes things predictable because you know there's gonna be a gimmick match that doesn't build up into anything other than its a gimmick match going along with the PPV's name.

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** It doesn't make those PPVs unique. With gimmick matches like TLC or Extreme Rules matches, they were always there as a blow-off to any major long-term s
toryline
storyline feud they had going on between opponents. Money in the Bank, Royal Rumble and Elimination Chamber make sense in that you never know who could come out on top in them, which adds that sense of unpredictability to them. But for other gimmick-themed PPVs like TLC or Hell in the Cell, they're just there to set up matches without the storyline buildup used for feuds before the PG era and it makes things predictable because you know there's gonna be a gimmick match that doesn't build up into anything other than its a gimmick match going along with the PPV's name.
3rd Sep '17 11:24:32 AM JC96
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* Does [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince McMahon]] ever thought to himself, why not make [[Wrestling/RomanReigns Roman Reigns]] a heel. Because Vince was perfectly fine with his relatives like [[Wrestling/TheRock The Rock]],[[Wrestling/{{Rikishi}}]], [[Wrestling/TheUsos The Usos]] and Nia Jax being heels but Roman Reigns has to be an exemption?

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* Does [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince McMahon]] ever thought to himself, why not make [[Wrestling/RomanReigns Roman Reigns]] a heel. Because Vince was perfectly fine with his relatives like [[Wrestling/TheRock The Rock]],[[Wrestling/{{Rikishi}}]], Rock]] [[Wrestling/TheUsos The Usos]] and Nia Jax being heels but Roman Reigns has to be an exemption?
2nd Sep '17 11:15:47 AM JC96
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** It doesn't make those PPVs unique. With gimmick matches like TLC or Extreme Rules matches, they were always there as a blow-off to any major long-term storyline feud they had going on between opponents. Money in the Bank, Royal Rumble and Elimination Chamber make sense in that you never know who could come out on top in them, which adds that sense of unpredictability to them. But for other gimmick-themed PPVs like TLC or Hell in the Cell, they're just there to set up matches without the storyline buildup used for feuds before the PG era and it makes things predictable because you know there's gonna be a gimmick match that doesn't build up into anything other than its a gimmick match going along with the PPV's name.

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** It doesn't make those PPVs unique. With gimmick matches like TLC or Extreme Rules matches, they were always there as a blow-off to any major long-term storyline s
toryline
feud they had going on between opponents. Money in the Bank, Royal Rumble and Elimination Chamber make sense in that you never know who could come out on top in them, which adds that sense of unpredictability to them. But for other gimmick-themed PPVs like TLC or Hell in the Cell, they're just there to set up matches without the storyline buildup used for feuds before the PG era and it makes things predictable because you know there's gonna be a gimmick match that doesn't build up into anything other than its a gimmick match going along with the PPV's name.



* Does [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince McMahon]] ever thought to himself, why not make [[Wrestling/RomanReigns Roman Reigns]] a heel. Because Vince was perfectly fine with his relatives like [[Wrestling/TheRock The Rock]], [[Wrestling/Rikishi Rikishi]], [[Wrestling/TheUsos The Usos]], [[Wrestling/NiaJax Nia Jax]] being heels but Roman Reigns has to be an exemption?

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* Does [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince McMahon]] ever thought to himself, why not make [[Wrestling/RomanReigns Roman Reigns]] a heel. Because Vince was perfectly fine with his relatives like [[Wrestling/TheRock The Rock]], [[Wrestling/Rikishi Rikishi]], Rock]],[[Wrestling/{{Rikishi}}]], [[Wrestling/TheUsos The Usos]], [[Wrestling/NiaJax Usos]] and Nia Jax]] Jax being heels but Roman Reigns has to be an exemption?
2nd Sep '17 11:11:54 AM JC96
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* Does [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince McMahon]] ever thought to himself, why not make [[Wrestling/RomanReigns Roman Reigns]] a heel. Because Vince was perfectly fine with his relatives like [[Wrestling/TheRock The Rock]], [[Wrestling/Rikishi Rikishi]], [[Wrestling/TheUsos The Usos]], Nia Jax being heels but Roman Reigns has to be an exemption?

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* Does [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince McMahon]] ever thought to himself, why not make [[Wrestling/RomanReigns Roman Reigns]] a heel. Because Vince was perfectly fine with his relatives like [[Wrestling/TheRock The Rock]], [[Wrestling/Rikishi Rikishi]], [[Wrestling/TheUsos The Usos]], [[Wrestling/NiaJax Nia Jax Jax]] being heels but Roman Reigns has to be an exemption?
2nd Sep '17 11:07:32 AM JC96
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* Does Vince McmAhon ever thought to himself, why not make Roman Reigns a heel. Because Vince was perfectly fine with his relatives like The Rock, Rikishi, The Usos, Nia Jax being heels but Roman Reigns has to be an exemption?

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* Does [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince McmAhon McMahon]] ever thought to himself, why not make [[Wrestling/RomanReigns Roman Reigns Reigns]] a heel. Because Vince was perfectly fine with his relatives like [[Wrestling/TheRock The Rock, Rikishi, Rock]], [[Wrestling/Rikishi Rikishi]], [[Wrestling/TheUsos The Usos, Usos]], Nia Jax being heels but Roman Reigns has to be an exemption?
2nd Sep '17 10:10:15 AM JC96
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** I think that what Vince Sr. would've disapproved of was the collapse of the old territories system. WWE would never have become a global business if they were still in the NWA and confined to the North-Eastern states

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** I think that what Vince Sr. would've disapproved of was the collapse of the old territories system. WWE would never have become a global business if they were still in the NWA and confined to the North-Eastern statesstates.
* I heard during the Invasion angle that many prominent WCW stars didn't appear because their contracts were too expensive to buy out but how expensive were those contracts and didn't going public made them even richer at the time of the angle?
* Does Vince McmAhon ever thought to himself, why not make Roman Reigns a heel. Because Vince was perfectly fine with his relatives like The Rock, Rikishi, The Usos, Nia Jax being heels but Roman Reigns has to be an exemption?
2nd Jun '17 11:57:53 AM cjpdk
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** I think that what Vince Sr. would've disapproved of was the collapse of the old territories system. WWE would never have become a global business if they were still in the NWA and confined to the North-Eastern states
29th May '17 5:20:43 AM JC96
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* According to [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince McMahon]], his father Vince Sr. would've never gave him the reigns of the 'family business' had he known that Vince Jr. was gonna make it into an global money-maker. Not that I don't blame his father for having reservations about it but what factors, especially those seen in today's WWE, an opponent against this?

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* According to [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince McMahon]], his father Vince Sr. would've never gave him the reigns of the 'family business' had he known that Vince Jr. was gonna make it into an global money-maker. money-making phenomenon. Not that I don't blame his father for having reservations about it but what factors, especially those seen in today's WWE, an opponent would make him against this?
28th May '17 8:22:28 PM JC96
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*** The incident took place in 2002: HHH didn't marry Steph (for real), and thus have real backstage power because he was now in the family, until the next year.

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*** **** The incident took place in 2002: HHH didn't marry Steph (for real), and thus have real backstage power because he was now in the family, until the next year.



*** I still want to know why Matt helped Edge of all people. '''EDGE.''' The man that tore Lita from you.
*** Well, this troper heard that the original plan was for Christian to make his re-debut by being the guy behind the attacks on Jeff, and the bookers dropped a few hints here and there. However, IWC fans and the like figured the clues out and immediately voiced their observations that Christian was the guy. Stephanie [=McMahon=], however, got wind of this and pulled the entire storyline because she was assuming that the fans would be too stupid to figure the whole thing out. She also pulled this with the "Save.us.222" campaign in late '07 that hyped up the return of Wrestling/ChrisJericho, which dropped many hints that pointed to Jericho. So instead of re-debuting around the time of Cyber Sunday, as was originally planned, Jericho's return was pushed back into December, at which point the entire hype behind the Save Us campaign was lost and people didn't give a shit.
*** The above poster is entirely correct. Both Vince and Steph feel that their viewers are complete morons (even more so than other TV writers).

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*** **** I still want to know why Matt helped Edge of all people. '''EDGE.''' The man that tore Lita from you.
*** **** Well, this troper heard that the original plan was for Christian to make his re-debut by being the guy behind the attacks on Jeff, and the bookers dropped a few hints here and there. However, IWC fans and the like figured the clues out and immediately voiced their observations that Christian was the guy. Stephanie [=McMahon=], however, got wind of this and pulled the entire storyline because she was assuming that the fans would be too stupid to figure the whole thing out. She also pulled this with the "Save.us.222" campaign in late '07 that hyped up the return of Wrestling/ChrisJericho, which dropped many hints that pointed to Jericho. So instead of re-debuting around the time of Cyber Sunday, as was originally planned, Jericho's return was pushed back into December, at which point the entire hype behind the Save Us campaign was lost and people didn't give a shit.
*** ***** The above poster is entirely correct. Both Vince and Steph feel that their viewers are complete morons (even more so than other TV writers).



*** No, Cole is an example of a bad heel, a guy who buries faces cheers for his favourite without logic, thus being irritating and getting nobody over. For examples of GOOD heel commentators, see Wrestling/PaulHeyman and Wrestling/JohnBradshawLayfield, they put over how good the babyfaces were (with Bradshaw he mostly did this, save one or two people he genuinely disliked) yet still supporting the heel, cheering when the heel won via dastardly means and professing his superiority to the face they spent 10 minutes putting over. Thus the face gets genuine credibility via the words of both commentators, the heel gets heat via cheating, and the commentator gets heat for supporting the heel and glossing over or ignoring his dastardly actions.
*** In re Bradshaw: Some of his most entertaining work may have been when Vito was doing the dress gimmick on ''[=SmackDown!=]'', as Vito's antics + [=JBL=]'s dead serious contempt for them = Hilarity.

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*** **** No, Cole is an example of a bad heel, a guy who buries faces cheers for his favourite without logic, thus being irritating and getting nobody over. For examples of GOOD heel commentators, see Wrestling/PaulHeyman and Wrestling/JohnBradshawLayfield, they put over how good the babyfaces were (with Bradshaw he mostly did this, save one or two people he genuinely disliked) yet still supporting the heel, cheering when the heel won via dastardly means and professing his superiority to the face they spent 10 minutes putting over. Thus the face gets genuine credibility via the words of both commentators, the heel gets heat via cheating, and the commentator gets heat for supporting the heel and glossing over or ignoring his dastardly actions.
*** ***** In re Bradshaw: Some of his most entertaining work may have been when Vito was doing the dress gimmick on ''[=SmackDown!=]'', as Vito's antics + [=JBL=]'s dead serious contempt for them = Hilarity.



*** This, of course, was after breaching his WWF champion's contract, and telling him to get the best deal he could from the competition. In ''Wrestling With Shadows'', when Bret offers to ask Bischoff to keep the deal quiet, Vince in fact turns him down and says not to worry about it.

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*** **** This, of course, was after breaching his WWF champion's contract, and telling him to get the best deal he could from the competition. In ''Wrestling With Shadows'', when Bret offers to ask Bischoff to keep the deal quiet, Vince in fact turns him down and says not to worry about it.



* According to [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon]], his father Vince Sr. would've never gave him the reigns of the 'family business' had he known that Vince Jr. was gonna make it into an global money-maker. Not that I don't blame his father for having reservations about it but what factors, especially those seen in today's WWE, an opponent against this?

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* According to [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon]], [[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vince McMahon]], his father Vince Sr. would've never gave him the reigns of the 'family business' had he known that Vince Jr. was gonna make it into an global money-maker. Not that I don't blame his father for having reservations about it but what factors, especially those seen in today's WWE, an opponent against this?
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