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*** [[WesternAnimation/MonstersInc Did said Yeti sound oddly familiar? Did he like snow cones?]]

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*** [[WesternAnimation/MonstersInc [[WesternAnimation/MonstersInc1 Did said Yeti sound oddly familiar? Did he like snow cones?]]
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*** But if, hypothetically, it ''had'' been a little kid who'd done it, they clearly wouldn't have been drinking it, would they? Therefore, if it had been a little kid (which it wasn't, but again, hypothetically) then the attorney would've assumed the kid stole it from their parents.
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** Ellie said that Paradise Falls was "a land lost in time". It has some kind of magical influence, which is how Muntz aged slowly and maintained good health. Just look at Carl in the beginning of the film: he has difficulty getting out of bed, getting down stairs, even just walking and running. As he spends more time in Paradise Falls, he gradually gets stronger and more fit. I mean, he sleeps on a * rock* and doesn't suffer any pain from it like he got from sleeping in a normal bed back home; he abandons his cane and seems to get along fine without it; he was running and climbing all over that zeppelin, even hanging off a ladder by one hand when he couldn't even get down stairs before! Clearly, there's something going on in Paradise Falls.

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** Ellie said that Paradise Falls was "a land lost in time". It has some kind of magical influence, which is how Muntz aged slowly and maintained good health. Just look at Carl in the beginning of the film: he has difficulty getting out of bed, getting down stairs, downstairs, even just walking and running. As he spends more time in Paradise Falls, he gradually gets stronger and more fit. I mean, he sleeps on a * rock* and doesn't suffer any pain from it like he got from sleeping in a normal bed back home; he abandons his cane and seems to get along fine without it; he was running and climbing all over that zeppelin, even hanging off a ladder by one hand when he couldn't even get down stairs downstairs before! Clearly, there's something going on in Paradise Falls.



** [[IncrediblyLamePun Completely Missing The Point]].

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* The ''Spirit of Adventure'' is incredibly valuable. How was Carl allowed to keep it/live on board? It's a Zeppelin that was probably worth around $50-$70 million in today's money when it was ''brand new,'' and is in near-perfect flying condition (minus a few biplanes). It contains tens of tons of priceless, untold historical treasures, fossils, gemstones and artifacts. Not to mention the super-high-tech talking collars and the genetically enhanced dogs. The sheer historical and scientific value of the airship and its cargo is nigh-incalculable, and apparently Carl gets to own ALL OF IT because he not-so-accidentally killed the ship's rightful owner in combat? What is this, the [[JustForPun law of the jungle?]] And how in the blue hell is he capable of ''piloting it?''

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* The ''Spirit of Adventure'' is incredibly valuable. How was Carl allowed to keep it/live on board? It's a Zeppelin that was probably worth around $50-$70 million in today's money when it was ''brand new,'' and is in near-perfect flying condition (minus a few biplanes). It contains tens of tons of priceless, untold historical treasures, fossils, gemstones and artifacts. Not to mention the super-high-tech talking collars and the genetically enhanced dogs. The sheer historical and scientific value of the airship and its cargo is nigh-incalculable, and apparently Carl gets to own ALL OF IT because he not-so-accidentally killed the ship's rightful owner in combat? What is this, the [[JustForPun law of the jungle?]] jungle? And how in the blue hell is he capable of ''piloting it?''
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*** Well, bugger me. I felt like a really lame StarWars fan coming out and logging on to the page. Now I find there was all this to spot!
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** Am I seriously the only one here who's first thought was that Russell's mom hooked up with another woman after the divorce?
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** If ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}'' taught us anything; is that anyone can cook!
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** A big reason may be that they just didn't care that much. It was an old childhood dream that eventually became a very minor item far down on their bucket-list. If they had REALLY cared about it, they could have found a way in their forty-plus years of marriage. Instead they only contributed nickels and dimes to saving for it, and used the money for other things at the slightest provocation. It's only when she's dead that he becomes obsessed with it, his grief making him see himself as an utter failure for never taking her there.
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*** While not incredibly common in our timeline, dollar coins are a thing and if we assume that’s what the coins in the jar are, the amount in there would certainly be enough to pay for those things when taking into account the value of the dollar in the 1950s and 60s. It could be that the movie takes place in a timeline identical to our own except that dollar coins surpassed bills in popularity.

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*** **** While not incredibly common in our timeline, dollar coins are a thing thing, and if we assume that’s what the coins in the jar are, the amount in there would certainly be enough to pay for those things when taking into account the value of the dollar in the 1950s and 60s. It could be that the movie takes place in a timeline identical to our own except that dollar coins surpassed bills in popularity.
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*** While not incredibly common in our timeline, dollar coins are a thing and if we assume that’s what the coins in the jar are, the amount in there would certainly be enough to pay for those things when taking into account the value of the dollar in the 1950s and 60s. It could be that Up takes place in a timeline identical to our own except that dollar coins surpassed bills in popularity.

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*** While not incredibly common in our timeline, dollar coins are a thing and if we assume that’s what the coins in the jar are, the amount in there would certainly be enough to pay for those things when taking into account the value of the dollar in the 1950s and 60s. It could be that Up the movie takes place in a timeline identical to our own except that dollar coins surpassed bills in popularity.
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**** While not incredibly common in our timeline, dollar coins are a thing and if we assume that’s what the coins in the jar are, the amount in there would certainly be enough to pay for those things when taking into account the value of the dollar in the 1950s and 60s. It could be that Up takes place in a timeline identical to our own except that dollar coins surpassed bills in popularity.
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** Maybe he figured the sneaky snipe had slipped past him and doubled back?
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*** Russell had no way of knowing that the house was taking off into the sky; he probably thought the ground was caving in ''under'' it. Grabbing something that seemed stable would've seemed preferable to dropping into a sinkhole.


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*** That raises the question of why he didn't let go when the house started rising. In fact, why would he be clinging to it like that in the first place? Was his reaction to the house rising off the ground [[WhatAnIdiot to grab onto it]]?

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*** That raises the question of why he didn't let go when the house started rising. In fact, why would he be clinging to it like that in the first place? Was his reaction to the house rising off the ground [[WhatAnIdiot to grab onto it]]?it?
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** There was indeed something else to it that you missed. Earlier in the film, Russel tells Carl that if he's ever in danger to use the Wilderness Explorer cry for help, which is "Caw-caw! Rawr!" Although Carl didnt take it seriously at the time, but he knew Russel still would, and that it would be enough to encourage him to climb up the hose.

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** There was indeed something else to it that you missed. Earlier in the film, Russel tells Carl that if he's ever in danger to use the Wilderness Explorer cry for help, which is happens to sound like random animal noises: "Caw-caw! Rawr!" Although Carl didnt take it seriously at the time, but he knew Russel still would, and that it would be enough to encourage him to climb up the hose.
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*** Also, he could be lying as it’s not the craziest thing he’s shown to to. Carl might have not realized or not care (How many of us would care too much if a childhood hero embellished one of their stories?)
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** Carl didn't want Russell to help him at all. Carl is so lonely, grouchy and bitter at the beginning of the film that making a child happy isn't something he plans on doing, even if it would be really easy. So he decides to make Russell run around looking for a snipe instead, which he thinks is funnier than simply giving Russell what he wants.

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**With Muntz being a "crazy-ass", who's to say that he wouldn't have taken the bird and killed them both anyway?



**Design-wise, Kevin is a mishmash of bird species and, in ''Up's'' universe, she could be in a genus of birds that bridges the two. She does live in a "land that time forgot"



***Leaf blowers can be heavy like any other power tool but, no, they don't require much experience to use, other than knowing how to use one and not get hurt.



***Carl used to sell balloons, so he probably had a crap-ton laying around his house from those days. No clue as to where he'd get helium, tho.



*** Since Carl is in his 70s,the construction supervisor probably gave him a pass because, as we all know, legal charges (including misdemeanor ones) against an elderly person are a migraine to deal with for both the police and the courts and trying to probably would have Carl argue that they're picking with him. Also, what exactly would they charge him for, anyhow? Vandalism? Property damage? Criminal Mischief?

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*** Since Carl is in his 70s,the 70s, the construction supervisor probably gave him a pass because, as we all know, legal charges (including misdemeanor ones) against an elderly person are a migraine to deal with for both the police and the courts and trying to probably would have Carl argue that they're picking with him. Also, what exactly would they charge him for, anyhow? Vandalism? Property damage? Criminal Mischief?
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* At the beginning, to fulfil Russell's stupid badge requirements, why couldn't Carl have just dropped his cane or his glasses or a tennis ball and tell Russell to pick them up or let him help him walk a couple meters to the mailbox? He probably wouldn't trust Russell to clean his mailbox without starting a forest fire, but anything can be counted as "assisting the elderly", right?
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* How did Russell end up back on Carl's house after going two blocks away to hunt for the snipe?
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*** He probably would have accompanied him to a village or airport or made an SOS signal or something.



*** [[InsistentTerminology Zeppelin!]]

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*** [[Theatre/SweeneyTodd Mrs. Lovette would like to trade some recipes.]]

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*** [[Theatre/SweeneyTodd Mrs. Lovette Lovett would like to trade some recipes.]]



** Dug still loved Muntz as his "master" for a while, up until he and his dogs tried to kill him.



** At this point, Muntz just wanted to prove to the world that he was not a fraud.



** Even if the house wasn't of sentimental value to Carl, it was still his shelter from the elements and probably contained food. He wouldn't have lasted long without it.



** It's implied that he only murdered people he had reason to believe were after the bird - when he saw that Carl and Russel were dragging an entire house along behind them, he decided that no one would've gone to such lengths just to try and fool him, and that they were innocent enough to be trusted. It wasn't until Russel mentioned Kevin later on that he changed his mind, and it's possible (as suggested on the NightmareFuel page) that similar circumstances were what befell his other victims, to whom he was initially trusting, until a perfectly innocent comment or remark sent him over the edge.

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** It's implied that he only murdered people he had reason to believe were after the bird - when he saw that Carl and Russel were dragging an entire house along behind them, he decided that no one would've gone to such lengths just to try and fool him, and that they were innocent enough to be trusted. It wasn't until Russel mentioned Kevin later on that he changed his mind, and it's possible (as suggested on the NightmareFuel page) that similar circumstances were what befell his other victims, to whom he was initially trusting, until a perfectly innocent comment or remark sent him over the edge.edge and they became dog chow.



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* If Ellie actually got to go to paradise falls, [[spoiler:Isn't it likely that Muntz, her childhood hero, would have tried to kill her?]]
** No. Ellie is badass. She would've grown into a NeverMessWithGranny type and kicked his ass.
*** Really? Never are we shown that she's a master at martial arts. Just because she has an adventure-spirit it doesn't mean that she's an ActionGirl.
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** The "Dug Days" series of shorts reveal that Carl sold the Spirit Of Adventure, and he and Dug have now moved into a suburban house.


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** The "Dug Days" shorts reveal that Carl did indeed sell the Spirit Of Adventure-and presumably the artifacts/antiques inside of it, too.
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**I don't think Dug is stupid, actually, he's really just new and still a rookie, so he doesn't know better.
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** Plus, RuleOfFunny. Dogs chasing mailmen is a very common joke.

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** This isn't actually an uncommon concept in real life; Up itself is associated with the story of [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Macefield Edith Macefield]], who similarly refused to sell her house to developers and got a mall built around it for her trouble.[[labelnote:Disclaimer]]Contrary to popular belief, however, her story didn't inspire the movie; production began a couple of years before her story.[[/labelnote]] And that's just one example of someone being stubborn enough long enough for the development companies to decide it's less trouble to just build around them.



** RuleOfFunny, or maybe he's got really [=WiFi=] and downloaded it.

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** RuleOfFunny, or maybe he's got really good [=WiFi=] and downloaded it.

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