History Headscratchers / TrueBlood

1st Feb '18 10:05:14 AM dmcreif
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** Because at that point in the story Bill was still doing the whole "being a vampire is a terrible curse that I wouldn't wish on anyone" tortured-vampire thing.I'm glad he seems to have gotten over that in season 4.
** They had no way of knowing she'd enjoy better than her human life. She was crying and begging that they let her go. Bill pretty much loves humans taking away the life of an innocent human child, and forcing them into a vampire life, which is a {{Fate Worse Than Death}} in Bill's eyes, was a pretty horrible punishment for him.
** They were not trying to punish her. And they do think being a vampire is a gift. They all say so. So in their eyes they were asking Bill to give the teenager a gift. I agree. Thats nonsense. Even if Bill did do a silly "Oh no, anything but biting the pretty girl" routine. That just made it more silly.
** I always took it as failed gambit of sorts. The sheriff seemed intrigued by Sookie's ability, and while not wanting to jeopardize that situation still needs to punish Bill. It seems that the Vampire society makes the sire of a new vampire responsible for their progeny. And they were probably thinking Sookie would react poorly when she found out about it, further punishing Bill.

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** Because at that point in the story story, Bill was still doing the whole "being a vampire is a terrible curse that I wouldn't wish on anyone" tortured-vampire thing.I'm glad he thing. He seems to have gotten over that in season 4.
** They had no way of knowing she'd that Jessica would ultimately enjoy being a vampire better than her human life. She was crying and begging that they let her go. Bill pretty much loves humans taking away the life of an innocent human child, and forcing them into a vampire life, which is a {{Fate Worse Than Death}} in Bill's eyes, was a pretty horrible punishment for him.
** They were not trying to punish her. And they do think being a vampire is a gift. They all say so. So in their eyes they were asking Bill to give the teenager Jessica a gift. I agree. Thats nonsense. Even if Bill did do a silly "Oh no, anything but biting the pretty girl" routine. That just made it more silly.
** I always took it as failed gambit of sorts. The sheriff Eric seemed intrigued by Sookie's ability, and while not wanting to jeopardize that situation still needs to punish Bill. It seems that the Vampire society makes the sire of a new vampire responsible for their progeny. And they were probably thinking Sookie would react poorly when she found out about it, further punishing Bill.



*** Yeah, Bill explained that it wasn't much of a punishment, exactly, that it was just something that would bother him and needed to be done anyway. What Bill did not explain is why after saying he commited a terrible vampire crime he was being given this lenient punishment. Especially when the Magister says "I could put you in a silver wrapped coffin... but I want to do something even worse!..." and then gives him the non punishment.
*** If they needed a new vampire and wanted to punish Bill, they could have put Bill into a coffin for fifteen years, which is amore fitting punishment(come on, some dude bit a human that belonged to another and they tore out his fangs. They said killing a vampire was like an awful crime, and humans were not even important enough to be mentioned!!), and some other vampire would be very happy to bite the cute redhead.
*** I think we are missing the point! Bill committed one of the worst crimes of vampire kind, even with, to a vampire, slightly mitigating circumstances like saving a human. They first consider putting him in silver and letting him rot. Then change it to force him into siring a beautiful woman, which would bother his conscience. Surely inexplicably kinder! If there are reasons that can be invented for why they did it, it is still bad writing, because we, the audience and the only ones who will know this story were not made aware of any.

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*** Yeah, Bill explained that it wasn't much of a punishment, exactly, that it turning Jessica was just something that would bother him and needed to be done anyway. What Bill did not explain is why after saying he commited a terrible vampire crime he was being given this lenient punishment. Especially when the Magister says "I could put you in a silver wrapped coffin... but I want to do something even worse!..." and then gives him the non punishment.
*** If they needed a new vampire and wanted to punish Bill, they could have put Bill into a coffin for fifteen years, which is is amore fitting punishment(come punishment (come on, some dude bit a human that belonged to another and they tore out his fangs. They said killing a vampire was like an awful crime, and humans were not even important enough to be mentioned!!), and some other vampire would be very happy to bite the cute redhead.
*** I think we are missing the point! Bill ***Bill committed one of the worst crimes of vampire kind, even with, to a vampire, slightly mitigating circumstances like saving a human. They first consider putting him in silver and letting him rot. Then change it to force him into siring a beautiful woman, which would bother his conscience. Surely inexplicably kinder! If there are reasons that can be invented for why they did it, it is still bad writing, because we, the audience and the only ones who will know this story were not made aware of any.



** Right. The normal punishment for an unprovoked murder is a silver coffin. The Magister agreed there were mitigating circumstances (Longshadow was stealing from Eric and Bill acted in defense of his "property") so he agreed to be lenient and force Bill to do a kind of "community service" by replenishing their numbers and saddling him with the responsibility of a newborn.
** To sum up: In Vampire society, stealing from another vampire is frowned upon and stealing from your Sheriff is punishable by death. Longshadow did both. Itís implied that Bill wasn't really punished for killing Longshadow because Eric could have killed him for "attacking his wealth" anyway. Bill was, however, responsible for creating a new vampire in Eric's territory to replace the one that was lost.

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** Right. The normal punishment for an unprovoked murder is a silver coffin. The Magister agreed there were mitigating circumstances (Longshadow was stealing from Eric Eric, and Bill acted in defense of his "property") so he agreed to be lenient and force Bill to do a kind of "community service" by replenishing their numbers and saddling him with the responsibility of a newborn.
** To sum up: In Vampire society, stealing from another vampire is frowned upon and stealing upon. Stealing from your Sheriff is punishable by death. Longshadow did both. Itís implied that Bill wasn't really punished for killing Longshadow because Eric could have killed him Longshadow for "attacking his wealth" anyway. Bill was, however, responsible for creating a new vampire Jessica in Eric's territory to replace the one that was lost.



** The store clerk was probably smart enough to know that there was [[OneSteveLimit more than one "Jessica" in the world]]. She'd just assume it was a coincidence.

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** The store clerk was probably smart enough to know that there was [[OneSteveLimit more than one millions of people named "Jessica" in the world]]. She'd just assume it was a coincidence.



* So if the vampire King of Mississippi is three thousand years old, why does he have a British-y name and a Southern accent?
** It seems that vampires are in the habit of changing their names and adopting the local accent of wherever they settle, to avoid unwanted attention. Pam and Eric are European too, but have adapted American accents to fit in.

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* So if Russell Edgington, the vampire King of Mississippi Mississippi, is three thousand years old, why does he have a British-y name and a Southern accent?
** It seems that vampires are in the habit of changing their names and adopting the local accent of wherever they settle, to avoid unwanted attention. Pam and Eric are European too, but have adapted American accents to fit in. Eric probably just anglicized his name when he moved to the US.



** In Season 5, we see that Russell adopts a Slavic accent when he's angry or upset, so its pretty clear the Southern accent is an act, and his name certainly is.

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** In Season 5, we see that Russell adopts slips into a Slavic / Druid accent when he's angry or upset, so its pretty clear the Southern accent is an act, and his name certainly is.



** It's entirely possible she stayed in touch with him and told him to keep this to himself. If there's anyone in Bon Temps she'd still talk to, it'd be him.

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** It's entirely possible she stayed in touch with him Lafayette and told him to keep this to himself. If there's anyone in Bon Temps she'd still talk to, it'd be him.



** He also agreed not to tell anyone about Jessica killing one of Bill's guards. In his defense, she was under Antonia's spell at the time so he couldn't really fault her for it. Still, the casual manner in which he and Bill discuss sweeping the issue under the rug seems a little... discomforting.
** Jason just knows how things work. Honestly Bill could and probably SHOULD have just glamored Jason just to be safe but he chose not to because Jason is part of the Team. Yes Jason is a horrible cop but really the answer here is that no good would come of it. As for Bill he hasn't shown a great deal of caring for humans save for one argument with his maker.

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** He Jason also agreed not to tell anyone about Jessica killing one of Bill's guards. In his Jessica's defense, she was under Antonia's spell at the time so he Jason couldn't really fault her for it. Still, the casual manner in which he and Bill discuss sweeping the issue under the rug seems a little... discomforting.
** Jason just knows how things work. Honestly Honestly, Bill could and probably SHOULD have just glamored Jason just to be safe but he chose not to because Jason is part of the Team. Yes Jason is a horrible cop but really the answer here is that no good would come of it. As for Bill he hasn't shown a great deal of caring for humans save for one argument with his maker.



** This is {{lampshaded}} just once, when Hoyt refuses to let Jessica heal him with her blood because he knows what "that shit" does to people. But he may be being an [[FlatEarthAtheist illogical-world logician]] about the whole thing.
* How did the magister become well the magister? It seems like he is a fundamentalist, the vampires who we find out in season 5 believe that humans are food and nothing more and are enemies of the authority,how is the magister, with his views which he expresses in season one so powerful?

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** This is {{lampshaded}} just once, at one point, when Hoyt refuses to let Jessica heal him with her blood because he knows what "that shit" does to people. But he may be being an [[FlatEarthAtheist illogical-world logician]] about the whole thing.
* How did the magister become well the magister? It seems like he is a fundamentalist, the vampires who we find out in season 5 believe that humans are food and nothing more and are enemies of the authority,how authority, how is the magister, with his views which he expresses in season one so powerful?



* Why did Bill kill doctor when he invaded the compound? The man was in such bad shape after Eric ripped off his genitals that he was dying a fairly painful death. He was begging for death and after finding out the man had hurt Jessica Bill gives him a mercy kill.
** I got the impression that if he hadn't hurt Jessica, Bill would have healed him. Basically, he was pissed enough to kill him, but he's still compassionate enough to not want to let him bleed to death from a torn-off dick.

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* Why did Bill kill the doctor when he invaded the compound? The man was in such bad shape after Eric ripped off his genitals that he was dying a fairly painful death. He was begging for death and after finding out the man had hurt Jessica Jessica, Bill gives him a mercy kill.
** [[PapaWolf I got the impression that if he hadn't hurt Jessica, Bill would have healed him. him.]] Basically, he was pissed enough to kill him, but he's still compassionate enough to not want to let him bleed to death from a torn-off dick.
30th Jan '18 9:53:43 PM WorgenDeathKnight
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* How Hep-V vamps able to wipe out whole towns over multiple nights? They can't get into peoples homes without being invited.
3rd Nov '17 2:08:24 PM MayorP
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*** The whole house probably smells like faerie blood, what with the whole actual faerie Stackhouses having lived there for decades, and it probably has residue from every knee scrape and papercut etc.
13th Aug '17 12:36:50 PM TeeEss
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*Why do Sookie and Lafayette ask Pam to turn Tara into a vampire, instead of just giving her some of her blood? As Sookie reminds Lafayette, Tara hates vampires, and the blood would heal her just as much as turning her into a vampire would, without the side effect of turning her into something she hates.

13th Aug '17 10:47:43 AM TeeEss
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** She's also been kinda distracted with big event after big event happening the minute she gets back from the fairy world. Not to mention that she was only gone for a few minutes but a while year passed by without her, so naturally she hasn't grown and changed as much as everyone else around her.


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*Are we supposed to view Sam as a sympathetic character? Because he starts the show off as one of the most kind, gentle people on the show (outside of maybe Hoyt) and as the show goes on, he becomes more and more hostile and unsympathetic. He knows his brother has been abused, taught to steal to survive, and generally had a fucked up upbringing and yet he treats him like an enemy every time he does something fucked up instead of showing even the slightest bit of compassion. As the only responsible adult in his life, and the person who rescued him from that life, you'd think he'd realize that Tommy needs a firm hand but constant love and support. I get that Tommy was an adult who made his own (piss poor) decisions, but where was the Sam we knew from Seasons 1 and 2 to help guide him?
** And then he shoots him in what is supposed to be a call-back to him shooting his ex-girlfriend and her boyfriend who also stole from him. But was that flashback supposed to get us on Sam's side? Because he kills two people in cold blood. It feels like total character assassination and like they're just fucking with Sam because they had to keep him around as a main character and give him something to do while the real players did off-screen stuff.

*Meanwhile, how DID Tommy end up with Maxine Fortenberry? There's a lot about the time jump that feels left out.
** Season 3 ends with Sam shooting him and Season 4 opens a year later with him buttoned up and living with her, but we don't get the sense that he has any particular loyalties to her (he tries to steal from her, even though she's taking care of him in a way that no one else has). And folks seem to know that Sam shot him but he hasn't done jail time. So how did he end up in the care of a woman who, before this, seemed more interested in gossip and controlling her flesh and blood than taking care of a strange boy?
**And Jessica and Hoyt mention that Maxine tried to shoot Jessica. How did that possibly end without Maxine being arrested or killed? Why were there so many throwaway moments that should have bigger consequences?

15th Jul '17 3:47:45 PM nombretomado
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* Minor on the surface, but as effin' cool as Godric is, his presence seems to create some sort of nitpicky continuity black hole in the series even if True Blood is considered to be totally independent of the SVM novels (which it isn't, yet). First and foremost, when Lorena (I think) mentions that Bill probably won't want to see her since it's been such a long time, Eric immediately implies his undying loyalty to Godric despite not having seen him in "over seventy years". In season three, the two were clearly kicking asses and taking names during WorldWarII, which means that Eric is either bad at math or, being as old as he is, has lost all concept of time anyway. It may or may not also throw a wrench in Pam's timeline since (to my recollection) she has yet to be released, and despite being made in the early 1900's, appears to know little to nothing about Russell's pack of werewolves.

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* Minor on the surface, but as effin' cool as Godric is, his presence seems to create some sort of nitpicky continuity black hole in the series even if True Blood is considered to be totally independent of the SVM novels (which it isn't, yet). First and foremost, when Lorena (I think) mentions that Bill probably won't want to see her since it's been such a long time, Eric immediately implies his undying loyalty to Godric despite not having seen him in "over seventy years". In season three, the two were clearly kicking asses and taking names during WorldWarII, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, which means that Eric is either bad at math or, being as old as he is, has lost all concept of time anyway. It may or may not also throw a wrench in Pam's timeline since (to my recollection) she has yet to be released, and despite being made in the early 1900's, appears to know little to nothing about Russell's pack of werewolves.
15th May '17 8:26:13 PM nombretomado
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* For some reason, fangs in TrueBlood are on the lateral incisors rather than the canines and they just feel ''way'' too close together - especially on people with big mouths. I thought I would get accustomed to it as the series progressed, but every time Bill or someone else bares their fangs I end up picturing a walrus. It just looks so [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/vface_319.JPG ridiculous]].

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* For some reason, fangs in TrueBlood Series/TrueBlood are on the lateral incisors rather than the canines and they just feel ''way'' too close together - especially on people with big mouths. I thought I would get accustomed to it as the series progressed, but every time Bill or someone else bares their fangs I end up picturing a walrus. It just looks so [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/vface_319.JPG ridiculous]].
22nd Oct '16 11:35:21 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** It's probably a case of ForgotAboutHisPowers or TheyJustDidntCare, but to give the writers the benefit of the doubt: none of the vamps that fight Warlow are known for being shy about fighting stronger vampires. And who knows? Maybe the rules for a fae/vamp are different, and they don't get stronger as they age. And Warlow, though older, is still a poofter compared to Russell, who was a hyper aggressive maniac.

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** It's probably a case of ForgotAboutHisPowers or TheyJustDidntCare, ForgotAboutHisPowers, but to give the writers the benefit of the doubt: none of the vamps that fight Warlow are known for being shy about fighting stronger vampires. And who knows? Maybe the rules for a fae/vamp are different, and they don't get stronger as they age. And Warlow, though older, is still a poofter compared to Russell, who was a hyper aggressive maniac.
1st Sep '16 7:39:55 AM Anybol
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*** In Season 5, we see that Russell adopts a Slavic accent when he's angry or upset, so its pretty clear the Southern accent is an act, and his name certainly is.

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*** ** In Season 5, we see that Russell adopts a Slavic accent when he's angry or upset, so its pretty clear the Southern accent is an act, and his name certainly is.
1st Sep '16 7:35:58 AM Anybol
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*** In Season 5, we see that Russell adopts a Slavic accent when he's angry or upset, so its pretty clear the Southern accent is an act, and his name certainly is.
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