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3rd Mar '17 7:09:06 AM kyatollah
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* So, Shingen had machines that can remove Logan's health power, and make him a common mortal man, capable to live a common life, grow old and die like everybody else. Of course, there were bad guys all around... but, once they have been all defeated and Mariko is safe, why doesn't Wolverine return to the lab to use those machines and become mortal? In fact, if the corporation is bordering bankruptcy, he should do it '''now''': if he returns to the Americas to have adventures with the X-Men, and go back to Japan to get rid of his immortality in some years, surely the repo will have long taken and dismantled it.

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* So, Shingen Ichiro had machines that can remove Logan's health power, and make him a common mortal man, capable to live a common life, grow old and die like everybody else. Of course, there were bad guys all around... but, once they have been all defeated and Mariko is safe, why doesn't Wolverine return to the lab to use those machines and become mortal? In fact, if the corporation is bordering bankruptcy, he should do it '''now''': if he returns to the Americas to have adventures with the X-Men, and go back to Japan to get rid of his immortality in some years, surely the repo will have long taken and dismantled it.



* When Nagasaki first offers Logan the chance to be mortal,Logan responds with "What they did to me, can't be undone" or something like that. To whom was he referring? The way he said it,it sounded like he meant Stryker and the scientists who grafted the Adamantium to his skeleton but this doesn't make any sense as Logan's healing factor(and therefore his apparent immortality) is a part of his original mutation and has nothing to do with what Stryker did to him. I suppose he could have meant his parents but it didn't really sound like that was who he meant.

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* When Nagasaki Yashida first offers Logan the chance to be mortal,Logan responds with "What they did to me, can't be undone" or something like that. To whom was he referring? The way he said it,it sounded like he meant Stryker and the scientists who grafted the Adamantium to his skeleton but this doesn't make any sense as Logan's healing factor(and therefore his apparent immortality) is a part of his original mutation and has nothing to do with what Stryker did to him. I suppose he could have meant his parents but it didn't really sound like that was who he meant.
3rd Mar '17 6:52:45 AM kyatollah
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*** That's more or less confirmed by William Stryker back in {{Film/X2XMenUnited}}. "The tricky thing about Adamantium is that, if you ever manage to process its raw liquid form, you gotta keep it that way... keep it hot, because once the metal cools, it's indestructible." It's most likely that, given his vast resources, Ichiro Yashida simply did his homework. If he had been keeping tabs on Logan for so long, no doubt he would have learned of the Weapon X program, the bonding procedure, and even the power transfer attempt with Weapon XI. For a tech genius at the head of a massive zaibatsu, that would be all he needed to get the ball rolling on the Silver Samurai project until Logan was within his grasp.

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*** That's more or less confirmed by William Stryker back in {{Film/X2XMenUnited}}.[[{{Film/X2XMenUnited}} X2]]. "The tricky thing about Adamantium is that, if you ever manage to process its raw liquid form, you gotta keep it that way... keep it hot, because once the metal cools, it's indestructible." It's most likely that, given his vast resources, Ichiro Yashida simply did his homework. If he had been keeping tabs on Logan for so long, no doubt he would have learned of the Weapon X program, the bonding procedure, and even the power transfer attempt with Weapon XI. For a tech genius at the head of a massive zaibatsu, that would be all he needed to get the ball rolling on the Silver Samurai project until Logan was within his grasp.
3rd Mar '17 6:51:18 AM kyatollah
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*** That's more or less confirmed by William Stryker back in {{Film/X2XMenUnited}}. "The tricky thing about Adamantium is that, if you ever manage to process its raw liquid form, you gotta keep it that way... keep it hot, because once the metal cools, it's indestructible." It's most likely that, given his vast resources, Ichiro Yashida simply did his homework. If he had been keeping tabs on Logan for so long, no doubt he would have learned of the Weapon X program, the bonding procedure, and even the power transfer attempt with Weapon XI. For a tech genius at the head of a massive zaibatsu, that would be all he needed to get the ball rolling on the Silver Samurai project until Logan was within his grasp.
3rd Mar '17 6:38:22 AM kyatollah
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** Logan clearly knew what they were in for, given what he told Ichiro. "That's a B-29, bub. There's no outrunning what's coming." Him knowing that the bomb was going to hit Nagasaki on that particular day (if he was even aware what day it was) i a different story. Given the unknown time of his capture and the confinement he was in (likely a reaction to his being a "kuzuri" since few people knew what mutants were back then,) he would likely have lost at least a couple of days in there.
23rd Feb '17 10:44:16 PM willyolio
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* If Viper drugged Logan enough to have him ingest the metal spider, what was stopping her from stabbing him with the paralysing poison, putting the manacles on him there and then, and proceeding with extraction?

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* If Viper drugged Logan enough to have him ingest the metal spider, what was stopping her from stabbing him with the paralysing poison, putting the manacles on him there and then, and proceeding with extraction?extraction?
* Couldn't they have just '''asked''' him for a blood sample or something?
21st May '16 12:30:12 AM Gess
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* This is more for the series in general, but this movie does involve Wolverine's love for Jean Grey, so I might as well bring it up here. In the comics, Logan and Jean were teammates and friends for years, so it makes sense for Logan to have some strong feelings for her. In the movies, Logan met Jean in the first X-Men movie, which took place over the span of about a week. At the end of the first movie, he takes Cyke's motorcycle and drives away, not returning until the second movie. The second movie also takes place over the span of about a week (and there is a day or two in which Wolverine and Jean are in two different areas) and then Jean dies. In this movie, we see that he still dreams about her years later and is deeply in love. Why? If you take all the time he spent with Jean, you'd end up with about half a month. Most of that time was spent dealing with fighting super villains so they never got to know each other that much. There's little reason why Wolverine would regard her as anyone other than an attractive woman he went on a couple of missions with.

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* This is more for the series in general, but this movie does involve Wolverine's love for Jean Grey, so I might as well bring it up here. In the comics, Logan and Jean were teammates and friends for years, so it makes sense for Logan to have some strong feelings for her. In the movies, Logan met Jean in the first X-Men movie, which took place over the span of about a week. At the end of the first movie, he takes Cyke's motorcycle and drives away, not returning until the second movie. The second movie also takes place over the span of about a week (and there is a day or two in which Wolverine and Jean are in two different areas) and then Jean dies. In this movie, we see that he still dreams about her years later and is deeply in love. Why? If you take all the time he spent with Jean, you'd end up with about half a month. Most of that time was spent dealing with fighting super villains so they never got to know each other that much. There's little reason why Wolverine would regard her as anyone other than an attractive woman he went on a couple of missions with.with.
* How can you ingest a metal spider, and then have it rip through your body and latch itself to your heart, all without noticing or feeling it?
* If Viper drugged Logan enough to have him ingest the metal spider, what was stopping her from stabbing him with the paralysing poison, putting the manacles on him there and then, and proceeding with extraction?
25th Apr '16 12:20:55 AM AP
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**** In X3, we see the guy and there was no mention of him being a twin. I think they even gave a name.



** Perhaps the blade has been replaced over the ages.

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** Perhaps the blade has been replaced over the ages.ages.

* This is more for the series in general, but this movie does involve Wolverine's love for Jean Grey, so I might as well bring it up here. In the comics, Logan and Jean were teammates and friends for years, so it makes sense for Logan to have some strong feelings for her. In the movies, Logan met Jean in the first X-Men movie, which took place over the span of about a week. At the end of the first movie, he takes Cyke's motorcycle and drives away, not returning until the second movie. The second movie also takes place over the span of about a week (and there is a day or two in which Wolverine and Jean are in two different areas) and then Jean dies. In this movie, we see that he still dreams about her years later and is deeply in love. Why? If you take all the time he spent with Jean, you'd end up with about half a month. Most of that time was spent dealing with fighting super villains so they never got to know each other that much. There's little reason why Wolverine would regard her as anyone other than an attractive woman he went on a couple of missions with.
16th Jul '15 8:20:43 AM MrDeath
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** He doesn't have to be told -- he just has to have heard and listened to rumors, which would've spread like wildfire about the American superweapon. Also remember that part of the reasons the US was so intent on the A-Bomb is because the Germans were working on it too. So if Logan knew about that, and heard about an American superweapon that took Hiroshima off the map, it's a logical conclusion. Particularly since the US did go out of its way to warn Japan about the bombs and what they could do before dropping them.
5th Jul '15 7:57:20 PM SSJMagus
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** How did Logan even know what an atomic bomb was? Sure, Nagasaki was the site of the second bombing, but it's not as if a prisoner would have been told about Hiroshima being mysteriously destroyed by a single bomb a couple of days ago. Nor is there any plausible way Logan would've had prior knowledge of the Manhattan Project.

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** How did Logan even know what an atomic bomb was? Sure, Nagasaki was the site of the second bombing, but it's not as if a prisoner would have been told about Hiroshima being mysteriously destroyed by a single bomb a couple of days ago. Nor is there any plausible way Logan would've had prior knowledge of the Manhattan Project. Certainly a single B-29 flying overhead instead of a formation of them is unusual, but there's no way he should've known how devastating the impending attack would be.
5th Jul '15 7:56:05 PM SSJMagus
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** How did Logan even know what an atomic bomb was? Sure, Nagasaki was the site of the second bombing, but it's not as if a prisoner would have been told about Hiroshima being mysteriously destroyed by a single bomb a couple of days ago. Nor is there any plausible way Logan would've had prior knowledge of the Manhattan Project.


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* Given that having retractable claws is an inherent trait for Logan, it would make sense for his hands and forearms to be biologically adapted to extend and retract them without causing damage in the process.
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