History Headscratchers / TheThing1982

26th Aug '17 4:54:37 PM DragonJTS
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** Mac didn't explain his theory until they were tied up, so he could have have decided to wait until the brief panic and confusion caused by his blood reacting to attack since. Alternatively, he might have been unaware he was The Thing (and then reacted instinctively), or not known if the test would work, or not known if anyone else was infected and been waiting for a chance to attack as a group.



* One thing I am not clear on is the plot at the end. Why do Macready and the rest decide to destroy the camp? I get that they would rather destroy the base and set things on fire than let the Thing kill them, but why destroy everything else? They mention something about raising the temperature around the camp and preventing the Thing from freezing itself and sleeping, but the Thing can just walk out of the camp and wait there if it wants to freeze, right? Why destroy themselves when they don't know if it will work and they have a working group that knows its not infected?

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* One thing I am not clear on is the plot at the end. Why do Macready and the rest decide to destroy the camp? I get that they would rather destroy the base and set things on fire than let the Thing kill them, but why destroy everything else? They mention something about raising the temperature around the camp and preventing the Thing from freezing itself and sleeping, but the Thing can just walk out of the camp and wait there if it wants to freeze, right? Why destroy themselves when they don't know if it will work and they have a working group that knows its not infected?infected?
** Freezing and sleeping is just part one of it's presumed plan, it needs to be found by a rescue team so it can reach civilization. Presumably the The Thing would not want to freeze outside the camp, as it would likely be buried in the snow and never found (it took 100,000 years for its MASSIVE spaceship to be found). As far as destroying themselves goes, they were already good as dead. With the generator gone, even the interior of the camp would eventually become lethally cold. The only thing they could hope to do was deny The Thing a safe place to impersonate a frozen corpse.
23rd Aug '17 11:20:48 AM ArnoldPalmerstone
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* What about dust mites, spores, or other microscopic airborne ways of infecting people? How come the Thing never used that?

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* What about dust mites, spores, or other microscopic airborne ways of infecting people? How come the Thing never used that?that?
*One thing I am not clear on is the plot at the end. Why do Macready and the rest decide to destroy the camp? I get that they would rather destroy the base and set things on fire than let the Thing kill them, but why destroy everything else? They mention something about raising the temperature around the camp and preventing the Thing from freezing itself and sleeping, but the Thing can just walk out of the camp and wait there if it wants to freeze, right? Why destroy themselves when they don't know if it will work and they have a working group that knows its not infected?
11th Aug '17 10:57:40 AM Sharlee
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* What happens if the thing were to assimilate a flamingo? The flamingo gets its pink color by eating algae and crustaceans containing carotenoids that break down into pink and orange pigments that are distributed across its body. Would the Thing-flamingo also assimilate those pigments and become pink itself? Additionally, the second movie pointed out that the Thing is incapable of absorbing non-organic matter (such as metal tooth fillings), but there is an animal called an ''Crysomallon squamiferum'' whose shell is covered in an additional layer of iron sulfides greigite and pyrite, which no animal in nature has been known to use. It's "foot" is also covered in iron-mineral scales to provide further protection against predators. Basically its a snail covered in metal. So if the thing were to absorb that would it expel the iron and spit out a regular non-iron covered ''Crysomallon squamiferum'', or would the complete integration of metal and flesh confuse the Thing so much that it wouldn't be able to make anything at all? Remember the victim's fillings were put in with surgery at some point in his life, so they're not a part of the individual, but the snail developed the armor naturally by absorbing it from the sulfide and metal rich waters near the hypothermal vents deep beneath the ocean.

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* What happens if the thing were to assimilate a flamingo? The flamingo gets its pink color by eating algae and crustaceans containing carotenoids that break down into pink and orange pigments that are distributed across its body. Would the Thing-flamingo also assimilate those pigments and become pink itself? Additionally, the second movie pointed out that the Thing is incapable of absorbing non-organic matter (such as metal tooth fillings), but there is an animal called an ''Crysomallon squamiferum'' whose shell is covered in an additional layer of iron sulfides greigite and pyrite, which no animal in nature has been known to use. It's "foot" is also covered in iron-mineral scales to provide further protection against predators. Basically its a snail covered in metal. So if the thing were to absorb that would it expel the iron and spit out a regular non-iron covered ''Crysomallon squamiferum'', or would the complete integration of metal and flesh confuse the Thing so much that it wouldn't be able to make anything at all? Remember the victim's fillings were put in with surgery at some point in his life, so they're not a part of the individual, but the snail developed the armor naturally by absorbing it from the sulfide and metal rich waters near the hypothermal hydrothermal vents deep beneath the ocean.


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*** No reason it couldn't mimic a flamingo's secondhand pigments, as it's hard to think why the ''original'' source of the pigments would matter. It just duplicates what's present in the assimilated creature, which would include pink and orange carotenoid-derivatives in a flamingo's case.
11th Aug '17 10:46:51 AM Sharlee
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** As for why they keep trying to eliminate humans and turn them into Things, the key phrase there is ''eliminate humans''. All of the human-guise Things have a common goal of whittling away the humans' numbers, because they're all equally vulnerable to getting burned to death if the surviving humans catch on to them. Replacing the men they eliminate lets them keep their remaining human enemies confused, suspicious of one another, and increasingly outnumbered. The moderate risk that one such Thing might end up having to kill a fellow-Thing is one they're willing to accept if it means they'll eventually have no real opposition left.
5th Aug '17 3:16:51 AM glassbooks
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* I can understand Norris-Thing using the chest maw to efficiently kill one of the men, but what was it thinking with that weird think it shot out? It has weird stuff hanging out of it, tiny little baby-legs sticking out of it and a whole warped imitation of Norris's head. And it just stands there (on the cieling) roaring. What was the point of it? It may as well have just splattered the room with Thing pieces and hope it got on all the men.

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* I can understand Norris-Thing using the chest maw to efficiently kill one of the men, but what was it thinking with that weird think it shot out? It has weird stuff hanging out of it, tiny little baby-legs sticking out of it and a whole warped imitation of Norris's head. And it just stands there (on the cieling) roaring. What was the point of it? It may as well have just splattered the room with Thing pieces and hope it got on all the men.men.
* What about dust mites, spores, or other microscopic airborne ways of infecting people? How come the Thing never used that?
2nd Jul '17 8:59:41 PM hordak27
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* Near the end, before Nauls wonders off to his death, why didn't he say anything to [=MacReady=] first?

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* Near the end, before Nauls wonders wanders off to his death, why didn't he say anything to [=MacReady=] first?
2nd Jul '17 8:59:12 PM hordak27
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* Near the end, before Nails wonders off to his death, why didn't he say anything to [=MacReady=] first?
** This was probably the relic of the cut scene where Nails is ambushed by a jack-in-the-box monster, or this could simply be blamed on being a TooDumbToLive moment out of fear.

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* Near the end, before Nails Nauls wonders off to his death, why didn't he say anything to [=MacReady=] first?
** This was probably the relic of the cut scene where Nails Nauls is ambushed by a jack-in-the-box monster, or this could simply be blamed on being a TooDumbToLive moment out of fear.
2nd Jul '17 8:38:26 PM hordak27
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** [[http://thethingfan.11.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=39 The debate ranges on.]] Some say yes, others say no.

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** [[http://thethingfan.11.forumer.com/viewtopic.php?t=39 The debate ranges rages on.]] Some say yes, others say no.
2nd Jul '17 7:15:23 PM hordak27
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*** For what it's worth, [[spoiler: the Thing actually ''does'' attempt a stab-and-run approach in the 2011 prequel, and although this lets it kill a number of humans quickly, it also winds up getting attacked by flamethowers every time it does so, before it can actually assimilate the people it kills. Presumably it learned from experience and had already given on using this tactic by the time it got to the American outpost.]]

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*** For what it's worth, [[spoiler: the Thing actually ''does'' attempt a stab-and-run approach in the 2011 prequel, and although this lets it kill a number of humans quickly, it also winds up getting attacked by flamethowers every time it does so, before it can actually assimilate the people it kills. Presumably it learned from experience and had already given up on using this tactic by the time it got to the American outpost.]]
16th Mar '17 6:11:56 AM glassbooks
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* Why does the Palmer Thing just sit there in the blood test scene? It knows its about to be outed so why does it allow itself to be tied down and wait until the last minute instead of escaping or trying a surprise attack?

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* Why does the Palmer Thing just sit there in the blood test scene? It knows its about to be outed so why does it allow itself to be tied down and wait until the last minute instead of escaping or trying a surprise attack?attack?
* I can understand Norris-Thing using the chest maw to efficiently kill one of the men, but what was it thinking with that weird think it shot out? It has weird stuff hanging out of it, tiny little baby-legs sticking out of it and a whole warped imitation of Norris's head. And it just stands there (on the cieling) roaring. What was the point of it? It may as well have just splattered the room with Thing pieces and hope it got on all the men.
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