History Headscratchers / TheThing1982

16th Mar '17 6:11:56 AM glassbooks
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* Why does the Palmer Thing just sit there in the blood test scene? It knows its about to be outed so why does it allow itself to be tied down and wait until the last minute instead of escaping or trying a surprise attack?

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* Why does the Palmer Thing just sit there in the blood test scene? It knows its about to be outed so why does it allow itself to be tied down and wait until the last minute instead of escaping or trying a surprise attack?attack?
* I can understand Norris-Thing using the chest maw to efficiently kill one of the men, but what was it thinking with that weird think it shot out? It has weird stuff hanging out of it, tiny little baby-legs sticking out of it and a whole warped imitation of Norris's head. And it just stands there (on the cieling) roaring. What was the point of it? It may as well have just splattered the room with Thing pieces and hope it got on all the men.
13th Mar '17 1:07:09 PM glassbooks
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*** 2. Even if it were kerosine, given how the Thing is a perfect imitation presumably it would also have imitated Childs's taste buds and memories of what beer tastes like - a human, or a perfect imitation of a human would have spat it out.

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*** 2. Even if it were kerosine, given how the Thing is a perfect imitation presumably it would also have imitated Childs's taste buds and memories of what beer tastes like - a human, or a perfect imitation of a human would have spat it out.out.
* Why does the Palmer Thing just sit there in the blood test scene? It knows its about to be outed so why does it allow itself to be tied down and wait until the last minute instead of escaping or trying a surprise attack?
8th Feb '17 3:54:59 PM glassbooks
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* Why is MacReady carrying a bottle of spirits at the end of the movie, or even managed to find one? The answer is that he isn't. It's a kerosene molotov left over from burning the base. When he hands it to Childs who takes a drink from it, MacReady laughs because Childs!Thing has just outed itself, but is also holding the last flamethrower.

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* Why is MacReady carrying a bottle of spirits at the end of the movie, or even managed to find one? The answer is that he isn't. It's a kerosene molotov left over from burning the base. When he hands it to Childs who takes a drink from it, MacReady laughs because Childs!Thing has just outed itself, but is also holding the last flamethrower.flamethrower.
** Two problems with that answer and why it's more WMG than an answer.
*** 1. There's nothing to indicate that it's kerosine and not alcohol. He could easily have been keeping it safe in his coat pocket since he likes his booze.
*** 2. Even if it were kerosine, given how the Thing is a perfect imitation presumably it would also have imitated Childs's taste buds and memories of what beer tastes like - a human, or a perfect imitation of a human would have spat it out.
18th Jan '17 11:00:09 PM Raelix
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* Why is MacReady carrying a bottle of spirits at the end of the movie, or even find one? The answer is that he isn't. It's a kerosene molotov left over from burning the base. When he hands it to Childs who takes a drink from it, MacReady laughs because Childs!Thing has just outed itself, but is also holding the last flamethrower.

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* Why is MacReady carrying a bottle of spirits at the end of the movie, or even managed to find one? The answer is that he isn't. It's a kerosene molotov left over from burning the base. When he hands it to Childs who takes a drink from it, MacReady laughs because Childs!Thing has just outed itself, but is also holding the last flamethrower.
17th Jan '17 5:13:42 PM Raelix
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** Even if it WERE beneficial (it's not - you are gone, replaced by a monster using your memories to imitate you), would you let yourself be eaten by a violent, gory, HellIsThatNoise tentacle *thing* that is attacking you?

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** Even if it WERE beneficial (it's not - you are gone, replaced by a monster using your memories to imitate you), would you let yourself be eaten by a violent, gory, HellIsThatNoise tentacle *thing* that is attacking you?you?
* Why is MacReady carrying a bottle of spirits at the end of the movie, or even find one? The answer is that he isn't. It's a kerosene molotov left over from burning the base. When he hands it to Childs who takes a drink from it, MacReady laughs because Childs!Thing has just outed itself, but is also holding the last flamethrower.
9th Dec '16 7:14:05 AM glassbooks
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** It's not transformation, it's replacement. Your mind doesn't stay intact - It gets your memories, but your identity, personality and desires are completely replaced.

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** It's not transformation, it's replacement. Your mind doesn't stay intact - It gets your memories, but your identity, personality and desires are completely replaced.replaced.
** Even if it WERE beneficial (it's not - you are gone, replaced by a monster using your memories to imitate you), would you let yourself be eaten by a violent, gory, HellIsThatNoise tentacle *thing* that is attacking you?
1st Dec '16 2:39:15 PM RTaco
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* So here's a completely crazy idea: Why ''don't'' they just let the Thing assimilate with everyone? There's no sign that doing so would deprive them of their memories/personalities. If anything, doing so would just make them into stronger beings: regenerate lost limbs, grow wings to fly, gills to breathe underwater. And since everything assimilated by the Thing is essentially the same being, they'd have no real reason to fight each other, since the only people/animals it attacks is whoever/whatever ''isn't'' already assimilated with it.

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* So here's a completely crazy idea: Why ''don't'' they just let the Thing assimilate with everyone? There's no sign that doing so would deprive them of their memories/personalities. If anything, doing so would just make them into stronger beings: regenerate lost limbs, grow wings to fly, gills to breathe underwater. And since everything assimilated by the Thing is essentially the same being, they'd have no real reason to fight each other, since the only people/animals it attacks is whoever/whatever ''isn't'' already assimilated with it.it.
**It's not transformation, it's replacement. Your mind doesn't stay intact - It gets your memories, but your identity, personality and desires are completely replaced.
1st Dec '16 8:46:39 AM Bauglir100
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* Why does it seem to be {{fanon}} that the smaller a Thing is, the lesser its intelligence? The only "stupid" action by a small thing in the 1982 movie is the Blood-Thing jumping and screaming after being stabbed by a red hot needle. That's not necessarily stupidity, it could equally have been done out of fear or a selfish desire to protect itself; possibly no different to how Norris-Thing gave itself away after being defibrillated. If you count the 2011 movie than the human sized Things are even stupider, giving themselves away inside a helicopter and putting an ear ring in the wrong ear.

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* Why does it seem to be {{fanon}} that the smaller a Thing is, the lesser its intelligence? The only "stupid" action by a small thing in the 1982 movie is the Blood-Thing jumping and screaming after being stabbed by a red hot needle. That's not necessarily stupidity, it could equally have been done out of fear or a selfish desire to protect itself; possibly no different to how Norris-Thing gave itself away after being defibrillated. If you count the 2011 movie than the human sized Things are even stupider, giving themselves away inside a helicopter and putting an ear ring in the wrong ear.ear.
* So here's a completely crazy idea: Why ''don't'' they just let the Thing assimilate with everyone? There's no sign that doing so would deprive them of their memories/personalities. If anything, doing so would just make them into stronger beings: regenerate lost limbs, grow wings to fly, gills to breathe underwater. And since everything assimilated by the Thing is essentially the same being, they'd have no real reason to fight each other, since the only people/animals it attacks is whoever/whatever ''isn't'' already assimilated with it.
20th Aug '16 4:10:02 PM glassbooks
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* Why does it seem to be ''fanon'' that the smaller a Thing is, the lesser its intelligence? The only "stupid" action by a small thing in the 1982 movie is the Blood-Thing jumping and screaming after being stabbed by a red hot needle. That's not necessarily stupidity, it could equally have been done out of fear or a selfish desire to protect itself; possibly no different to how Norris-Thing gave itself away after being defibrillated. If you count the 2011 movie than the human sized Things are even stupider, giving themselves away inside a helicopter and putting an ear ring in the wrong ear.

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* Why does it seem to be ''fanon'' {{fanon}} that the smaller a Thing is, the lesser its intelligence? The only "stupid" action by a small thing in the 1982 movie is the Blood-Thing jumping and screaming after being stabbed by a red hot needle. That's not necessarily stupidity, it could equally have been done out of fear or a selfish desire to protect itself; possibly no different to how Norris-Thing gave itself away after being defibrillated. If you count the 2011 movie than the human sized Things are even stupider, giving themselves away inside a helicopter and putting an ear ring in the wrong ear.
20th Aug '16 4:09:15 PM glassbooks
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** Windows had left the room to get the keys from Garry while the Thing had started to move before he left. Since Garry is likely in the Rec Room or asleep at this time, Windows could have easily taken 5 minutes or more trying to find him and get his keys while Bennings gets attacked. Additionally, Bennings is sitting in the corner besides the table holding the carcass when he is assimilated, which is not heavily shown prior to the attack, so it's not unlikely to think it would've been easier for him to be sitting all tied up so the Thing could eat him more easily and remain covert. Plus, Bennings is standing on a chair before he is attacked, which is covered in blood when Windows enters and now suddenly in the center of the room, which he could've put back as got down from moving stuff before getting attacked. As for the assimilation, the emphasis is on it being incomplete, as Bennings' arms were deformed and he roared instead of talking while seeming to have trouble walking, so it's likely that while his appearance was being worked on, his animalistic behavior implied it needed more time to fully complete the imitation. And in terms of clothers, he is only seen with the parka and pants on, so who knows if he would've looked the same underneath or was wearing more clothes? Seems like a reasonable time frame given Windows is getting the keys before getting the others.

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** Windows had left the room to get the keys from Garry while the Thing had started to move before he left. Since Garry is likely in the Rec Room or asleep at this time, Windows could have easily taken 5 minutes or more trying to find him and get his keys while Bennings gets attacked. Additionally, Bennings is sitting in the corner besides the table holding the carcass when he is assimilated, which is not heavily shown prior to the attack, so it's not unlikely to think it would've been easier for him to be sitting all tied up so the Thing could eat him more easily and remain covert. Plus, Bennings is standing on a chair before he is attacked, which is covered in blood when Windows enters and now suddenly in the center of the room, which he could've put back as got down from moving stuff before getting attacked. As for the assimilation, the emphasis is on it being incomplete, as Bennings' arms were deformed and he roared instead of talking while seeming to have trouble walking, so it's likely that while his appearance was being worked on, his animalistic behavior implied it needed more time to fully complete the imitation. And in terms of clothers, he is only seen with the parka and pants on, so who knows if he would've looked the same underneath or was wearing more clothes? Seems like a reasonable time frame given Windows is getting the keys before getting the others.others.
* Why does it seem to be ''fanon'' that the smaller a Thing is, the lesser its intelligence? The only "stupid" action by a small thing in the 1982 movie is the Blood-Thing jumping and screaming after being stabbed by a red hot needle. That's not necessarily stupidity, it could equally have been done out of fear or a selfish desire to protect itself; possibly no different to how Norris-Thing gave itself away after being defibrillated. If you count the 2011 movie than the human sized Things are even stupider, giving themselves away inside a helicopter and putting an ear ring in the wrong ear.
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