History Headscratchers / TheThing1982

1st Dec '16 2:39:15 PM RTaco
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* So here's a completely crazy idea: Why ''don't'' they just let the Thing assimilate with everyone? There's no sign that doing so would deprive them of their memories/personalities. If anything, doing so would just make them into stronger beings: regenerate lost limbs, grow wings to fly, gills to breathe underwater. And since everything assimilated by the Thing is essentially the same being, they'd have no real reason to fight each other, since the only people/animals it attacks is whoever/whatever ''isn't'' already assimilated with it.

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* So here's a completely crazy idea: Why ''don't'' they just let the Thing assimilate with everyone? There's no sign that doing so would deprive them of their memories/personalities. If anything, doing so would just make them into stronger beings: regenerate lost limbs, grow wings to fly, gills to breathe underwater. And since everything assimilated by the Thing is essentially the same being, they'd have no real reason to fight each other, since the only people/animals it attacks is whoever/whatever ''isn't'' already assimilated with it.it.
**It's not transformation, it's replacement. Your mind doesn't stay intact - It gets your memories, but your identity, personality and desires are completely replaced.
1st Dec '16 8:46:39 AM Bauglir100
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* Why does it seem to be {{fanon}} that the smaller a Thing is, the lesser its intelligence? The only "stupid" action by a small thing in the 1982 movie is the Blood-Thing jumping and screaming after being stabbed by a red hot needle. That's not necessarily stupidity, it could equally have been done out of fear or a selfish desire to protect itself; possibly no different to how Norris-Thing gave itself away after being defibrillated. If you count the 2011 movie than the human sized Things are even stupider, giving themselves away inside a helicopter and putting an ear ring in the wrong ear.

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* Why does it seem to be {{fanon}} that the smaller a Thing is, the lesser its intelligence? The only "stupid" action by a small thing in the 1982 movie is the Blood-Thing jumping and screaming after being stabbed by a red hot needle. That's not necessarily stupidity, it could equally have been done out of fear or a selfish desire to protect itself; possibly no different to how Norris-Thing gave itself away after being defibrillated. If you count the 2011 movie than the human sized Things are even stupider, giving themselves away inside a helicopter and putting an ear ring in the wrong ear.ear.
* So here's a completely crazy idea: Why ''don't'' they just let the Thing assimilate with everyone? There's no sign that doing so would deprive them of their memories/personalities. If anything, doing so would just make them into stronger beings: regenerate lost limbs, grow wings to fly, gills to breathe underwater. And since everything assimilated by the Thing is essentially the same being, they'd have no real reason to fight each other, since the only people/animals it attacks is whoever/whatever ''isn't'' already assimilated with it.
20th Aug '16 4:10:02 PM glassbooks
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* Why does it seem to be ''fanon'' that the smaller a Thing is, the lesser its intelligence? The only "stupid" action by a small thing in the 1982 movie is the Blood-Thing jumping and screaming after being stabbed by a red hot needle. That's not necessarily stupidity, it could equally have been done out of fear or a selfish desire to protect itself; possibly no different to how Norris-Thing gave itself away after being defibrillated. If you count the 2011 movie than the human sized Things are even stupider, giving themselves away inside a helicopter and putting an ear ring in the wrong ear.

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* Why does it seem to be ''fanon'' {{fanon}} that the smaller a Thing is, the lesser its intelligence? The only "stupid" action by a small thing in the 1982 movie is the Blood-Thing jumping and screaming after being stabbed by a red hot needle. That's not necessarily stupidity, it could equally have been done out of fear or a selfish desire to protect itself; possibly no different to how Norris-Thing gave itself away after being defibrillated. If you count the 2011 movie than the human sized Things are even stupider, giving themselves away inside a helicopter and putting an ear ring in the wrong ear.
20th Aug '16 4:09:15 PM glassbooks
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** Windows had left the room to get the keys from Garry while the Thing had started to move before he left. Since Garry is likely in the Rec Room or asleep at this time, Windows could have easily taken 5 minutes or more trying to find him and get his keys while Bennings gets attacked. Additionally, Bennings is sitting in the corner besides the table holding the carcass when he is assimilated, which is not heavily shown prior to the attack, so it's not unlikely to think it would've been easier for him to be sitting all tied up so the Thing could eat him more easily and remain covert. Plus, Bennings is standing on a chair before he is attacked, which is covered in blood when Windows enters and now suddenly in the center of the room, which he could've put back as got down from moving stuff before getting attacked. As for the assimilation, the emphasis is on it being incomplete, as Bennings' arms were deformed and he roared instead of talking while seeming to have trouble walking, so it's likely that while his appearance was being worked on, his animalistic behavior implied it needed more time to fully complete the imitation. And in terms of clothers, he is only seen with the parka and pants on, so who knows if he would've looked the same underneath or was wearing more clothes? Seems like a reasonable time frame given Windows is getting the keys before getting the others.

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** Windows had left the room to get the keys from Garry while the Thing had started to move before he left. Since Garry is likely in the Rec Room or asleep at this time, Windows could have easily taken 5 minutes or more trying to find him and get his keys while Bennings gets attacked. Additionally, Bennings is sitting in the corner besides the table holding the carcass when he is assimilated, which is not heavily shown prior to the attack, so it's not unlikely to think it would've been easier for him to be sitting all tied up so the Thing could eat him more easily and remain covert. Plus, Bennings is standing on a chair before he is attacked, which is covered in blood when Windows enters and now suddenly in the center of the room, which he could've put back as got down from moving stuff before getting attacked. As for the assimilation, the emphasis is on it being incomplete, as Bennings' arms were deformed and he roared instead of talking while seeming to have trouble walking, so it's likely that while his appearance was being worked on, his animalistic behavior implied it needed more time to fully complete the imitation. And in terms of clothers, he is only seen with the parka and pants on, so who knows if he would've looked the same underneath or was wearing more clothes? Seems like a reasonable time frame given Windows is getting the keys before getting the others.others.
* Why does it seem to be ''fanon'' that the smaller a Thing is, the lesser its intelligence? The only "stupid" action by a small thing in the 1982 movie is the Blood-Thing jumping and screaming after being stabbed by a red hot needle. That's not necessarily stupidity, it could equally have been done out of fear or a selfish desire to protect itself; possibly no different to how Norris-Thing gave itself away after being defibrillated. If you count the 2011 movie than the human sized Things are even stupider, giving themselves away inside a helicopter and putting an ear ring in the wrong ear.
28th Jul '16 7:13:46 PM Sharlee
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*** For what it's worth, [[spoiler: the Thing actually ''does'' attempt a stab-and-run approach in the 2011 prequel, and although this lets it kill a number of humans quickly, it also winds up getting attacked by flamethowers every time it does so, before it can actually assimilate the people it kills. Presumably it learned from experience and had already given on using this tactic by the time it got to the American outpost.]]
21st Jul '16 10:23:49 AM Sharlee
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** Communication is something species employ to convey information between individuals. Things aren't individuals; they're conglomerations of cells that operate ''like'' multicellular creatures when joined ''en masse''. The very concept of "communication" may be meaningless to them, because they can probably just clump together into a single gestalt if they need to share information.

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** Communication is something species employ to convey information between individuals. Things aren't individuals; they're more like conglomerations of cells that operate ''like'' multicellular creatures when joined ''en masse''. The very concept of "communication" may be meaningless to them, because they can probably just clump together into a single gestalt if they two separate chunks of Thing need to share information.
21st Jul '16 10:21:21 AM Sharlee
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** The Norwegian Thing was completely inert at the time. Possibly Copper's nonplussed reaction was because it was shiny enough from ice that it didn't even look real to him, but like some sort of bizarre, Lovecraftian plastic sculpture. As for him not being all that grossed out, it's logical that the outpost's physician would have a strong stomach for grisly sights, as it's hard to finish medical school if you're squeamish.
20th Jul '16 8:55:50 AM Sharlee
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** The long guns from the cabinet may have been for the collection of seabird specimens during helicopter forays to the coastline. Shooting non-endangered birds for purposes of approved scientific research is treaty-permitted in Antarctica, so long as it's on a small scale. The pistols are harder to account for, although one might've been kept on hand in case a sled dog got badly injured and needed to be put down in the field.

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** The long guns from the cabinet may have been for the collection of seabird specimens during helicopter forays to the coastline. Shooting non-endangered birds for purposes of approved scientific research is treaty-permitted in Antarctica, so long as it's on a small scale.scale and the right permits have been awarded. The pistols are harder to account for, although one might've been kept on hand in case a sled dog got badly injured and needed to be put down in the field.
20th Jul '16 8:53:39 AM Sharlee
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** The long guns from the cabinet may have been for the collection of seabird specimens during helicopter forays to the coastline. Shooting non-endangered birds for purposes of approved scientific research is treaty-permitted in Antarctica, so long as it's on a small scale. The pistols are harder to account for, although one might've been kept on hand in case a sled dog got badly injured and needed to be put down in the field.
20th Jul '16 8:33:38 AM Sharlee
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** Even if they didn't actually believe he wasn't a Thing, letting him play out his blood-tests (even if bogus) meant he kept untying people as they were exonerated. Why ''wouldn't'' they humor him/it for as long as possible?
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