History Headscratchers / TheShining

21st Apr '17 5:28:16 AM SkepticalBaby
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* In the film, the biggest jump scare is [[spoiler:Halloran's violent death]]. Halloran already knew that the Torrances were in danger, particularly Danny... if he can know that Danny's in trouble from across the coast, how can he not know [[spoiler: that there's a madman with an axe less than ten feet in front of him?]]

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* In the film, the biggest jump scare is [[spoiler:Halloran's [[spoiler:Hallorann's violent death]]. Halloran Hallorann already knew that the Torrances were in danger, particularly Danny... if he can know that Danny's in trouble from across the coast, how can he not know [[spoiler: that there's a madman with an axe less than ten feet in front of him?]]
21st Apr '17 5:26:25 AM SkepticalBaby
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* In the film, the biggest jump scare is [[spoiler:Halloran's violent death]]. Halloran already knew that the Torrences were in danger, particularly Danny... if he can know that Danny's in trouble from across the coast, how can he not know [[spoiler: that there's a madman with an axe less than ten feet in front of him?]]

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* In the film, the biggest jump scare is [[spoiler:Halloran's violent death]]. Halloran already knew that the Torrences Torrances were in danger, particularly Danny... if he can know that Danny's in trouble from across the coast, how can he not know [[spoiler: that there's a madman with an axe less than ten feet in front of him?]]
20th Apr '17 3:34:09 PM SkepticalBaby
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*In the film, the biggest jump scare is [[spoiler:Halloran's violent death]]. Halloran already knew that the Torrences were in danger, particularly Danny... if he can know that Danny's in trouble from across the coast, how can he not know [[spoiler: that there's a madman with an axe less than ten feet in front of him?]]


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**Oddly enough, this is one of the few things about the film that Kubrick was clear on. He stated in an interview that it was supposed to suggest that Jack was the reincarnation of a former official at the hotel. In one scene, he tells Wendy that when he arrived for his interview, he felt like he knew the place already. It's because he already HAD been there...
5th Feb '17 1:43:35 PM Xpytrov
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** Again - this is WordofGod related to the book. Not necessarily his film.
5th Feb '17 1:41:10 PM Xpytrov
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** The above WordofGod is specifically (in context) related to the Steven King novel. The section that has been edited with elipsis is: "It's what I found so particularly clever about the way the novel was written. As the supernatural events..." and the line which follows is "...explanation but the supernatural. The novel is by no means a serious literary work, but the plot is for the most part extremely well worked out, and for a film that is often all that really matters." Stephen King's book had moving firehoses and topiary, as well.
9th Jan '17 1:38:45 AM shamblingdead2
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** Hallorann was the cook, and the ghosts did not appear in the kitchen or cook's quarters (which is also the apartment where the Torrances live). There were certain areas of the hotel that were more dangerous than others, and Hallorann did have contact with some of them before the evil things were "powered up" by Danny's shine. He saw the topiary dog change positions. He went into the attic for something and the light went out and he stumbled around while it seemed like something was chasing him. And finally, after Dolores saw Mrs. Massey and got herself fired for screaming about it, Dick went to investigate. Mrs. Massey was not only there, she opened her eyes and started getting up before he ran. So yeah, the things in the hotel tried to get him when he was around them, but they weren't strong enough to do damage, and the later RetCon of his ability to compartmentalize helped a great deal.
26th Dec '16 1:20:51 AM shamblingdead2
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** As of ''Literature/DoctorSleep'' , we find out that Hallorann's coping mechanisms are extremely strict, and as Danny grows older, he teaches him how to compartmentalize (literally) the ghosts into boxes so they won't bother him again. While this is a bit of a RetCon, it explains how Hallorann was never harmed by anything in the hotel, along with the previous explanation that he was likely never alone.
27th Oct '16 10:28:20 AM TheBookWasBetter
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** It could be symbolic in several ways. The Apollo 11 mission consisted of three people going to a remote, lifeless, unfamiliar location, much like the characters in the film. Also, Apollo 11 is a symbol of a triumphant USA, which is a recurring motif contrasting with the American Indian inspired hotel decor. For example, in an earlier scene Danny is wearing a red, white, and blue shirt. Ullmann mentions at one point that the hotel was built on an Indian burial ground, and that the builders fought off raids from local tribes during the construction. In the lobby, an American flag flutters above a collection of trophy-like displays of Indian artifacts. Then, at the end we have the ominous photograph at the end which features a Fourth of July celebration. This is all in keeping with a popular interpretation that the hotel is haunted by vengeful spirits of natives whose burial ground was disturbed. Thus, according to this interpretation the patriotic symbols are a subtle way of representing the Torrences as targets of the spirits' hostility.

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** It could be symbolic in several ways. The Apollo 11 mission consisted of three people going to a remote, lifeless, unfamiliar location, much like the characters in the film. Also, Apollo 11 is a symbol of a triumphant USA, which is a recurring motif contrasting with the American Indian inspired hotel decor. For example, in an earlier scene Danny is wearing a red, white, and blue shirt. Ullmann mentions at one point that the hotel was built on an Indian burial ground, and that the builders fought off raids from local tribes during the construction. In the lobby, an American flag flutters above a collection of trophy-like displays of Indian artifacts. Then, at the end we have the ominous photograph at the end which features a Fourth of July celebration. This is all in keeping with a popular interpretation that the hotel is haunted by vengeful spirits of natives whose burial ground was disturbed. Thus, according to this interpretation the patriotic symbols are a subtle way of representing the Torrences as targets of the spirits' hostility.
27th Oct '16 10:26:54 AM TheBookWasBetter
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** It could be symbolic in several ways. The Apollo 11 mission consisted of three people going to a remote, lifeless, unfamiliar location, much like the characters in the film. Also, Apollo 11 is a symbol of a triumphant USA, which is a recurring motif contrasting with the American Indian inspired hotel decor. For example, in an earlier scene Danny is wearing a red, white, and blue shirt. Ullmann mentions at one point that the hotel was built on an Indian burial ground, and that the builders fought off raids from local tribes during the construction. Then, we have the ominous photograph at the end which features a Fourth of July celebration. This is in keeping with a popular interpretation that the hotel is haunted by vengeful spirits of natives whose burial ground was disturbed.

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** It could be symbolic in several ways. The Apollo 11 mission consisted of three people going to a remote, lifeless, unfamiliar location, much like the characters in the film. Also, Apollo 11 is a symbol of a triumphant USA, which is a recurring motif contrasting with the American Indian inspired hotel decor. For example, in an earlier scene Danny is wearing a red, white, and blue shirt. Ullmann mentions at one point that the hotel was built on an Indian burial ground, and that the builders fought off raids from local tribes during the construction. In the lobby, an American flag flutters above a collection of trophy-like displays of Indian artifacts. Then, at the end we have the ominous photograph at the end which features a Fourth of July celebration. This is all in keeping with a popular interpretation that the hotel is haunted by vengeful spirits of natives whose burial ground was disturbed.disturbed. Thus, according to this interpretation the patriotic symbols are a subtle way of representing the Torrences as targets of the spirits' hostility.
27th Oct '16 10:17:49 AM TheBookWasBetter
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** No big significance, according to [[http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/movies/aide-to-kubrick-on-shining-scoffs-at-room-237-theories.html?_r=0 this article]]. Kubrick wanted Danny in a sweater, and a friend of the film's costume designer had knitted the sweater, so Kubrick used it because it was something a little kid would wear. Knitters make stuff like this all the time. In the novel, Wendy was a knitter, so it's fun to pretend Wendy or one of her relatives might have knitted that sweater for Danny.

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** No big significance, according to [[http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/movies/aide-to-kubrick-on-shining-scoffs-at-room-237-theories.html?_r=0 this article]]. Kubrick wanted Danny in a sweater, and a friend of the film's costume designer had knitted the sweater, so Kubrick used it because it was something a little kid would wear. Knitters make stuff like this all the time. In the novel, Wendy was a knitter, so it's fun to pretend Wendy or one of her relatives might have knitted that sweater for Danny.Danny.
** It could be symbolic in several ways. The Apollo 11 mission consisted of three people going to a remote, lifeless, unfamiliar location, much like the characters in the film. Also, Apollo 11 is a symbol of a triumphant USA, which is a recurring motif contrasting with the American Indian inspired hotel decor. For example, in an earlier scene Danny is wearing a red, white, and blue shirt. Ullmann mentions at one point that the hotel was built on an Indian burial ground, and that the builders fought off raids from local tribes during the construction. Then, we have the ominous photograph at the end which features a Fourth of July celebration. This is in keeping with a popular interpretation that the hotel is haunted by vengeful spirits of natives whose burial ground was disturbed.
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