History Headscratchers / TheShining

8th Jun '16 9:32:59 AM shamblingdead2
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** No big significance, according to [[http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/movies/aide-to-kubrick-on-shining-scoffs-at-room-237-theories.html?_r=0 this article]]. Kubrick wanted Danny in a sweater, and a friend of the film's costume designer had knitted the sweater, so Kubrick used it because it was something a little kid would wear. Knitters make stuff like this all the time.

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** No big significance, according to [[http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/movies/aide-to-kubrick-on-shining-scoffs-at-room-237-theories.html?_r=0 this article]]. Kubrick wanted Danny in a sweater, and a friend of the film's costume designer had knitted the sweater, so Kubrick used it because it was something a little kid would wear. Knitters make stuff like this all the time. In the novel, Wendy was a knitter, so it's fun to pretend Wendy or one of her relatives might have knitted that sweater for Danny.
8th Jun '16 9:31:38 AM shamblingdead2
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* What, if any, significance is there to Danny's Apollo sweater, aside from the TinfoilHat conspiracy theories regarding the idea that Kubrick faked the moon landing? It really seems quite prominent in that one scene.

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* What, if any, significance is there to Danny's Apollo sweater, aside from the TinfoilHat conspiracy theories regarding the idea that Kubrick faked the moon landing? It really seems quite prominent in that one scene.scene.
** No big significance, according to [[http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/31/movies/aide-to-kubrick-on-shining-scoffs-at-room-237-theories.html?_r=0 this article]]. Kubrick wanted Danny in a sweater, and a friend of the film's costume designer had knitted the sweater, so Kubrick used it because it was something a little kid would wear. Knitters make stuff like this all the time.
20th Apr '16 9:16:09 PM Luppercus
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18th Feb '16 7:45:17 PM Sarah1281
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* This is more of a meta thing but why do people give the movie a MaybeMagicMaybeMundane trope? When I first saw it, it all looked as though the supernatural elements were all real in-universe and didn't know it was ever supposed to remotely be vague. Sure, I suppose Jack could've been crazy enough to see ghosts but his wife and kid saw ghosts as well. There's also the often-mentioned unlocking of the freezer but beyond that, there's Danny and Holloran's shinning together, how Danny got the bruises on his neck (it wasn't Jack so it must've been the lady in the tub as Danny mentioned), or the photo at the end of the movie. Oh, and Jack knew Holloran was coming to the hotel because Grady told him. Either Grady is a ghost or Jack's hallucinations can preict the future somehow. How can anyone argue this was mundane?

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* This is more of a meta thing but why do people give the movie a MaybeMagicMaybeMundane trope? When I first saw it, it all looked as though the supernatural elements were all real in-universe and didn't know it was ever supposed to remotely be vague. Sure, I suppose Jack could've been crazy enough to see ghosts but his wife and kid saw ghosts as well. There's also the often-mentioned unlocking of the freezer but beyond that, there's Danny and Holloran's shinning together, how Danny got the bruises on his neck (it wasn't Jack so it must've been the lady in the tub as Danny mentioned), or the photo at the end of the movie. Oh, and Jack knew Holloran was coming to the hotel because Grady told him. Either Grady is a ghost or Jack's hallucinations can preict predict the future somehow. How can anyone argue this was mundane?
2nd Nov '15 2:35:51 PM CaptainAmazing
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* What, if any, significance is there to Danny's Apollo sweater, aside from the EpilepticTrees conspiracy theories regarding the idea that Kubrick faked the moon landing?

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* What, if any, significance is there to Danny's Apollo sweater, aside from the EpilepticTrees TinfoilHat conspiracy theories regarding the idea that Kubrick faked the moon landing?landing? It really seems quite prominent in that one scene.
2nd Nov '15 2:33:45 PM CaptainAmazing
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** Or that it was something that the hotel/the ghosts conjured up to tempt Jack. There are plenty of times when he interacts with objects that shouldn't be there.

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** Or that it was something that the hotel/the ghosts conjured up to tempt Jack. There are plenty of times when he interacts with objects that shouldn't be there.there.
*What, if any, significance is there to Danny's Apollo sweater, aside from the EpilepticTrees conspiracy theories regarding the idea that Kubrick faked the moon landing?
2nd Nov '15 2:24:39 PM CaptainAmazing
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* "For the purposes of telling the story, my view is that the paranormal is genuine. Jack's mental state serves only to prepare him for the murder, and to temporarily mislead the audience... As the supernatural events occurred you searched for an explanation, and the most likely one seemed to be that the strange things that were happening would finally be explained as the products of Jack's imagination. It's not until Grady (the ghost of the former caretaker who axed his family to death) slides open the bolt of the larder door allowing Jack to escape, that you are left with no other explanation but the supernatural.*

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\n* *** "For the purposes of telling the story, my view is that the paranormal is genuine. Jack's mental state serves only to prepare him for the murder, and to temporarily mislead the audience... As the supernatural events occurred you searched for an explanation, and the most likely one seemed to be that the strange things that were happening would finally be explained as the products of Jack's imagination. It's not until Grady (the ghost of the former caretaker who axed his family to death) slides open the bolt of the larder door allowing Jack to escape, that you are left with no other explanation but the supernatural.*
2nd Nov '15 2:23:35 PM CaptainAmazing
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** Wordof God is that the ghosts are real, but that it's meant to be ambiguous until Grady lets Jack out of the freezer:

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** Wordof God WordofGod is that the ghosts are real, but that it's meant to be ambiguous until Grady lets Jack out of the freezer:
2nd Nov '15 2:23:24 PM CaptainAmazing
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** WordofGod is that the ghosts are real, but that it's meant to be ambiguous until Grady lets Jack out of the freezer:

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** WordofGod Wordof God is that the ghosts are real, but that it's meant to be ambiguous until Grady lets Jack out of the freezer:
2nd Nov '15 2:20:55 PM CaptainAmazing
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**WordofGod is that the ghosts are real, but that it's meant to be ambiguous until Grady lets Jack out of the freezer:

*"For the purposes of telling the story, my view is that the paranormal is genuine. Jack's mental state serves only to prepare him for the murder, and to temporarily mislead the audience... As the supernatural events occurred you searched for an explanation, and the most likely one seemed to be that the strange things that were happening would finally be explained as the products of Jack's imagination. It's not until Grady (the ghost of the former caretaker who axed his family to death) slides open the bolt of the larder door allowing Jack to escape, that you are left with no other explanation but the supernatural.*


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** WordofGod (see quote towards the top of the page) is that everything is meant to be ambiguous *until* Grady lets Jack out of the freezer. This moment is meant to end the ambiguity.
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