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*** Historically, the Vikings weren't super interested in active conquest. They ''did'' create settlements in Ireland, but while they raided monasteries and cathedrals a lot, they weren't particularly interested in the actual buildings or the land. They wanted the treasures ''in'' the buildings. If the Vikings had actually been interested in conquering Ireland properly, they'd likely have been able to do it, but it wasn't their goal.
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*** It's probably Aisling, in the sense that cooperation of a figure of native pagan myth in the creation of a Catholic holy book, a faith where we can start at the point that they deny her existence... Yeah, that seems like a pretty heavy secret.
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** The movie tends to tiptoe around the idea of Christianity a little. The Book of Kells is just a fancy presentation of the four Gospels of Christ, but this movie never outright mentions Jesus or the Gospels or any really direct, in-your-face Christian symbology or wording. The "Chi Rho page" is about as close as it gets. So, the intent of the book is to help Christian brothers and missionaries convert pagans into Christians by spreading the Gospel, but in the context of the movie, "turning darkness into light" is the way they chose to phrase that. It's what the Christians of the time believe will happen, after all.
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** The movie tends to tiptoe around the idea of Christianity a little. The Book of Kells is just a fancy presentation of the four Gospels of Christ, but this movie never outright mentions Jesus or the Gospels or any really direct, in-your-face Christian symbology or wording. The "Chi Rho page" is about as close as it gets. So, the intent of the book is to help Christian brothers and missionaries convert pagans into Christians by spreading the Gospel, but in the context of the movie, "turning darkness into light" is the way they chose to phrase that. It's what the Christians of the time believe will happen, after all.all.
** Well if you take [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_Irish_Saved_Civilization How The Irish Saved Civilization]] at face value then it might become obvious in a somewhat more secular way.
** Well if you take [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_the_Irish_Saved_Civilization How The Irish Saved Civilization]] at face value then it might become obvious in a somewhat more secular way.
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[[WMG: At first, when Aisling helped Brendan fight Crom Crauch, I assumed she looked at the Book off-screen. The FridgeBrilliance section mentions that she can't go into religious buildings, so she couldn't have seen the Book. Was she letting him risk his life just because he claimed the Book was important?]]
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[[WMG: At first, when Aisling helped Brendan fight Crom Crauch, Cruach, I assumed she looked at the Book off-screen. The FridgeBrilliance section mentions that she can't go into religious buildings, so she couldn't have seen the Book. Was she letting him risk his life just because he claimed the Book was important?]]
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* I kept expecting some big secret to be revealed, but it never happened. Is the Book of Kells supposed to be a secret? It hardly seems that way, since it's a famous book and everyone in town knows that it's there. Maybe it's known to the people of Kells, but it's kept secret from the Vikings? But there's no indication that the Vikings even care about the book, nor any reason why they ''should'' care. You could have done a story where, for instance, the book will magically "turn darkness into light" upon completion, defeating the vikings forever and saving the Irish, and thus it's vital to keep this book secret while it's being worked on so the vikings don't find out about it because if they do then they'll destroy it, and then you could have a plot where the vikings figure out it that it's in Kells and thus they decide to attack Kells...but none of that ever happened. The book was portrayed as important but never as a secret to be hidden, and nothing else in the story really qualifies as "The Secret of Kells"...so what justifies the title?
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* I kept expecting some big secret to be revealed, but it never happened. Is the Book of Kells supposed to be a secret? It hardly seems that way, since it's a famous book and everyone in town knows that it's there. Maybe it's known to the people of Kells, but it's kept secret from the Vikings? But there's no indication that the Vikings even care about the book, nor any reason why they ''should'' care. You could have done a story where, for instance, the book will magically "turn darkness into light" upon completion, defeating the vikings Vikings forever and saving the Irish, and thus it's vital to keep this book secret while it's being worked on so the vikings Vikings don't find out about it because if they do then they'll destroy it, and then you could have a plot where the vikings Vikings figure out it that it's in Kells and thus they decide to attack Kells...but none of that ever happened. The book was portrayed as important but never as a secret to be hidden, and nothing else in the story really qualifies as "The Secret of Kells"...so what justifies the title?
** Maybe it's Aisling.
** Maybe it's Aisling.
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** We do hear about them seeking gold. From the Vikings themselves. It's the only English word they speak. If you wanted to find gold, generally it was in the possession of only two types of establishments: lordly, or religious. The lords and kings had armies which would fight you for the gold; the monasteries and abbeys did not. That made easy targets of the religious trappings like chalices and thuribles. Additionally, many scholars believe that the Vikings felt threatened by Christian expansion, being as they were pagans themselves. Attacking religious outposts was a thing they commonly did; quite a few scholars believe encroaching Christianization led them to target Christians as retaliation, or simply to keep the Christians out of Scandinavia.
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** It makes more sense when you know how hugely important the Book of Kells is in modern-day Ireland. It's considered Ireland's national treasure and is probably the most famous illuminated manuscript in existence. Brendan isn't just handing his uncle a fancy book; he's handing him what could be called the Irish equivalent of ''Literature/JourneyToTheWest'' or the Declaration of Independence.
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** It makes more sense when you know how hugely important the Book of Kells is in modern-day Ireland. It's considered Ireland's national treasure and is probably the most famous illuminated manuscript in existence. Brendan isn't just handing his uncle a fancy book; he's handing him what could be called the Irish equivalent of ''Literature/JourneyToTheWest'' or the Declaration of Independence.Independence.
** The movie tends to tiptoe around the idea of Christianity a little. The Book of Kells is just a fancy presentation of the four Gospels of Christ, but this movie never outright mentions Jesus or the Gospels or any really direct, in-your-face Christian symbology or wording. The "Chi Rho page" is about as close as it gets. So, the intent of the book is to help Christian brothers and missionaries convert pagans into Christians by spreading the Gospel, but in the context of the movie, "turning darkness into light" is the way they chose to phrase that. It's what the Christians of the time believe will happen, after all.
** The movie tends to tiptoe around the idea of Christianity a little. The Book of Kells is just a fancy presentation of the four Gospels of Christ, but this movie never outright mentions Jesus or the Gospels or any really direct, in-your-face Christian symbology or wording. The "Chi Rho page" is about as close as it gets. So, the intent of the book is to help Christian brothers and missionaries convert pagans into Christians by spreading the Gospel, but in the context of the movie, "turning darkness into light" is the way they chose to phrase that. It's what the Christians of the time believe will happen, after all.
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* Plus the story is being told by the people the Vikings invaded and pillaged. It's little secret that Irish history and culture in general do ''not'' view the Vikings in a positive light.
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* It seemed like the book was going to do something magical at some point, or act as a beacon of hope for the masses in some way. But after all the build-up, at the end of the story it appears to just be a really fancy book, and there's maybe 10 people in the world who are even aware of it.
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* It seemed like the book was going to do something magical at some point, or act as a beacon of hope for the masses in some way. But after all the build-up, at the end of the story it appears to just be a really fancy book, and there's maybe 10 people in the world who are even aware of it.it.
** It makes more sense when you know how hugely important the Book of Kells is in modern-day Ireland. It's considered Ireland's national treasure and is probably the most famous illuminated manuscript in existence. Brendan isn't just handing his uncle a fancy book; he's handing him what could be called the Irish equivalent of ''Literature/JourneyToTheWest'' or the Declaration of Independence.
** It makes more sense when you know how hugely important the Book of Kells is in modern-day Ireland. It's considered Ireland's national treasure and is probably the most famous illuminated manuscript in existence. Brendan isn't just handing his uncle a fancy book; he's handing him what could be called the Irish equivalent of ''Literature/JourneyToTheWest'' or the Declaration of Independence.
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* If they were conquerors seeking land, why didn't they keep the land once they had taken it? (As far as I can tell, the Abbot isn't living under Viking rule at the end of the movie). If they were seeking slaves, why did they let so many people go free? If they were bigots who just hated the Irish, why did they leave so many people alive? (EvenEvilHasStandards?) If they were seeking precious materials (e.g. gold) that Kells possessed, why didn't we ever hear about that stuff? The Vikings came across as CardCarryingVillains whose goal was to cause mayhem, but who couldn't be bothered to actually finish the job and kill everyone in town, because that would ruin our happy ending.
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* If they were conquerors seeking land, why didn't they keep the land once they had taken it? (As far as I can tell, the Abbot isn't living under Viking rule at the end of the movie). If they were seeking slaves, why did they let so many people go free? If they were bigots who just hated the Irish, why did they leave so many people alive? (EvenEvilHasStandards?) If they were seeking precious materials (e.g. gold) that Kells possessed, why didn't we ever hear about that stuff? The Vikings came across as CardCarryingVillains CardCarryingVillain types whose goal was to cause mayhem, but who couldn't be bothered to actually finish the job and kill everyone in town, because that would ruin our happy ending.ending.
[[WMG: Did the book actually "turn darkness into light"?]]
* It seemed like the book was going to do something magical at some point, or act as a beacon of hope for the masses in some way. But after all the build-up, at the end of the story it appears to just be a really fancy book, and there's maybe 10 people in the world who are even aware of it.
[[WMG: Did the book actually "turn darkness into light"?]]
* It seemed like the book was going to do something magical at some point, or act as a beacon of hope for the masses in some way. But after all the build-up, at the end of the story it appears to just be a really fancy book, and there's maybe 10 people in the world who are even aware of it.
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* Because they're the bad guys. And because the movie artwork is meant to resemble an illustrated manuscript and that's how the animators decided they might look if depicted in one.
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* Because they're the bad guys. And because the movie artwork is meant to resemble an illustrated manuscript and that's how the animators decided they might look if depicted in one.one.
[[WMG: What ''was'' the Secret of Kells?]]
* I kept expecting some big secret to be revealed, but it never happened. Is the Book of Kells supposed to be a secret? It hardly seems that way, since it's a famous book and everyone in town knows that it's there. Maybe it's known to the people of Kells, but it's kept secret from the Vikings? But there's no indication that the Vikings even care about the book, nor any reason why they ''should'' care. You could have done a story where, for instance, the book will magically "turn darkness into light" upon completion, defeating the vikings forever and saving the Irish, and thus it's vital to keep this book secret while it's being worked on so the vikings don't find out about it because if they do then they'll destroy it, and then you could have a plot where the vikings figure out it that it's in Kells and thus they decide to attack Kells...but none of that ever happened. The book was portrayed as important but never as a secret to be hidden, and nothing else in the story really qualifies as "The Secret of Kells"...so what justifies the title?
[[WMG: Why did the Vikings come to Kells?]]
* If they were conquerors seeking land, why didn't they keep the land once they had taken it? (As far as I can tell, the Abbot isn't living under Viking rule at the end of the movie). If they were seeking slaves, why did they let so many people go free? If they were bigots who just hated the Irish, why did they leave so many people alive? (EvenEvilHasStandards?) If they were seeking precious materials (e.g. gold) that Kells possessed, why didn't we ever hear about that stuff? The Vikings came across as CardCarryingVillains whose goal was to cause mayhem, but who couldn't be bothered to actually finish the job and kill everyone in town, because that would ruin our happy ending.
[[WMG: What ''was'' the Secret of Kells?]]
* I kept expecting some big secret to be revealed, but it never happened. Is the Book of Kells supposed to be a secret? It hardly seems that way, since it's a famous book and everyone in town knows that it's there. Maybe it's known to the people of Kells, but it's kept secret from the Vikings? But there's no indication that the Vikings even care about the book, nor any reason why they ''should'' care. You could have done a story where, for instance, the book will magically "turn darkness into light" upon completion, defeating the vikings forever and saving the Irish, and thus it's vital to keep this book secret while it's being worked on so the vikings don't find out about it because if they do then they'll destroy it, and then you could have a plot where the vikings figure out it that it's in Kells and thus they decide to attack Kells...but none of that ever happened. The book was portrayed as important but never as a secret to be hidden, and nothing else in the story really qualifies as "The Secret of Kells"...so what justifies the title?
[[WMG: Why did the Vikings come to Kells?]]
* If they were conquerors seeking land, why didn't they keep the land once they had taken it? (As far as I can tell, the Abbot isn't living under Viking rule at the end of the movie). If they were seeking slaves, why did they let so many people go free? If they were bigots who just hated the Irish, why did they leave so many people alive? (EvenEvilHasStandards?) If they were seeking precious materials (e.g. gold) that Kells possessed, why didn't we ever hear about that stuff? The Vikings came across as CardCarryingVillains whose goal was to cause mayhem, but who couldn't be bothered to actually finish the job and kill everyone in town, because that would ruin our happy ending.
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**The way I took it as that she didn't really ''lose'' her human form, rather, she was in human form but Brendan, as an adult couldn't see that form, and, so, he saw her in her wolf form because that was what he could see.
