History Headscratchers / TheSecretOfKells

10th Jul '16 7:30:41 AM sonar1313
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*** Brendan's clearly been told off by Cellach in the past for blathering about imaginary things. Notice what he says about his dream of Iona being destroyed, when being scolded for being late bringing the wall plans from the scriptorium: "It was so ''real'', Uncle!" This has no doubt been a point of emphasis in Brendan's upbringing. This is only natural - a talented artist like Brendan surely has an overactive imagination, which would've clashed time and again with Cellach's strict and very grounded ways.
2nd Jul '16 7:57:25 PM sonar1313
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[[WMG: Where did the stairs come from?]] At the end, the people frantically run up the stairs to the top of the tower (Cellach's workroom). They seem to be entering the room through his window--you know, the window Cellach peers through dramatically at several points of the movie. But... for the vast majority of the movie, there aren't any stairs outside the tower leading up. For example, when Aisling climbs up the tower, there are no stairs to help her. Why did they build those stairs? What were they there for? And, another thing... for most of the movie, they reach the workroom by climbing the interior stairs of the tower. We know the Vikings broke into the base--why didn't they find those stairs and climb up?

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[[WMG: Where did the stairs come from?]] At the end, the people frantically run up the stairs to the top of the tower (Cellach's workroom). They seem to be entering the room through his window--you know, the window Cellach peers through dramatically at several points of the movie. But... for the vast majority of the movie, there aren't any stairs outside the tower leading up. For example, when Aisling climbs up the tower, there are no stairs to help her. Why did they build those stairs? What were they there for? And, another thing... for most of the movie, they reach the workroom by climbing the interior stairs of the tower. We know the Vikings broke into the base--why didn't they find those stairs and climb up?up?
* The stairs actually are there throughout the movie. There's a door in the tower, a dozen or two feet up from the ground. That's where the people are entering rather than Cellach's window, and they huddle in the base of it rather than Cellach's room. It's the same door that Spirit Pangur unlocks with the key. The door leads to what is essentially the ground floor of the tower (though it's well above the ground). Brendan's cell is underneath. Notice that his ladder is a long way down but he can easily climb to the window by standing on his bed. The best time to see the stairs is right after Brendan escapes his cell - he's standing on them when Aisling catches up to him and grabs him by the hand. The Vikings never break into the tower. They break into the church next to the tower.
21st Jun '16 8:29:33 AM heartofthemoon
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[[WMG: Why is it assumed that Aisling lost her human form? She seemed to change to it just fine in the ending. I always assumed that she simply took any form that fit her, as we don't see her human form until she notices Aidan. So when she was running with her pack against the vikings, a wolf form was more useful than the human one.]]

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[[WMG: Why is it assumed that Aisling lost her human form? She seemed to change to it just fine in the ending. I always assumed that she simply took any form that fit her, as we don't see her human form until she notices Aidan.Brendan. So when she was running with her pack against the vikings, a wolf form was more useful than the human one.]]



* Also, if it's strong enough a wall on its own could do the job; an attacking army has to worry about food (and other supplies) as well as weather, illness, injury, and moral. If your ravaging army saw a wall that would take weeks, maybe months, to get through, they may decide to seek their fortune elsewhere.

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* Also, if it's strong enough a wall on its own could do the job; an attacking army has to worry about food (and other supplies) as well as weather, illness, injury, and moral.morale. If your ravaging army saw a wall that would take weeks, maybe months, to get through, they may decide to seek their fortune elsewhere.
21st Jun '16 8:24:39 AM heartofthemoon
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* Also, if it's strong enough a wall on its own could do the job; an attacking army has to worry about food (and other supplies) as well as weather, illness, injury, and moral. If your ravaging army saw a wall that would take weeks, maybe months, to get through, they may decide to seek their fortune elsewhere.

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* Also, if it's strong enough a wall on its own could do the job; an attacking army has to worry about food (and other supplies) as well as weather, illness, injury, and moral. If your ravaging army saw a wall that would take weeks, maybe months, to get through, they may decide to seek their fortune elsewhere.elsewhere.

[[WMG: Where did the stairs come from?]] At the end, the people frantically run up the stairs to the top of the tower (Cellach's workroom). They seem to be entering the room through his window--you know, the window Cellach peers through dramatically at several points of the movie. But... for the vast majority of the movie, there aren't any stairs outside the tower leading up. For example, when Aisling climbs up the tower, there are no stairs to help her. Why did they build those stairs? What were they there for? And, another thing... for most of the movie, they reach the workroom by climbing the interior stairs of the tower. We know the Vikings broke into the base--why didn't they find those stairs and climb up?
11th Feb '16 9:33:31 AM mtcorias
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* Might be a bit of Fridge Brilliance, in that the abbot doesn't actually know anything about warfare. He might even have thought that the sight of the wall might be enough to deter any attackers. He wouldn't have been able to attain any information on the subject either, being surrounded by monks in a pre-hollywood society.

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* Might be a bit of Fridge Brilliance, in that the abbot doesn't actually know anything about warfare. He might even have thought that the sight of the wall might be enough to deter any attackers. He wouldn't have been able to attain any information on the subject either, being surrounded by monks in a pre-hollywood society.society.
*Also, if it's strong enough a wall on its own could do the job; an attacking army has to worry about food (and other supplies) as well as weather, illness, injury, and moral. If your ravaging army saw a wall that would take weeks, maybe months, to get through, they may decide to seek their fortune elsewhere.
27th Jun '14 1:54:36 PM DanielLC
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*** I'm not saying it was hopeless. I'm just saying that she couldn't have been nearly certain enough of it to bet Brendan's life against a pretty book.
18th Apr '13 11:14:12 AM erufailon42
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[[WMG: Why wasn't the wall manned?]] Okay, that's all well and good that he wants to build a wall. walls are effective defenses. But why does he not have anyone manning the damn things? I realize that he is a peaceful monk and stuff, but he could have built the wall to be the height of a skyscraper and all it'd have done was delay the Northmen if they have no one to actually repel the attackers from.

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\n** According to the main page, celtic folklore stated that cats were capable of going to otherwordly realms that others couldn't enter. Maybe she just needed a bit of prodding?

[[WMG: Why wasn't the wall manned?]] Okay, that's all well and good that he wants to build a wall. walls are effective defenses. But why does he not have anyone manning the damn things? I realize that he is a peaceful monk and stuff, but he could have built the wall to be the height of a skyscraper and all it'd have done was delay the Northmen if they have no one to actually repel the attackers from.from.
* Might be a bit of Fridge Brilliance, in that the abbot doesn't actually know anything about warfare. He might even have thought that the sight of the wall might be enough to deter any attackers. He wouldn't have been able to attain any information on the subject either, being surrounded by monks in a pre-hollywood society.
25th Nov '12 9:46:45 PM Jerkass
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* The WMG page suggests the cat is also a fairy so maybe her magic works on her but not on humans? Or maybe the magic doesn't work on Christians? Or she can't cast a spell on someone inside a religious building?

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* The WMG page suggests the cat is also a fairy so maybe her magic works on her but not on humans? Or maybe the magic doesn't work on Christians? Or she can't cast a spell on someone inside a religious building?building?

[[WMG: Why wasn't the wall manned?]] Okay, that's all well and good that he wants to build a wall. walls are effective defenses. But why does he not have anyone manning the damn things? I realize that he is a peaceful monk and stuff, but he could have built the wall to be the height of a skyscraper and all it'd have done was delay the Northmen if they have no one to actually repel the attackers from.
19th Oct '12 5:57:49 PM Murgatroyd314
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*** Others did use it. We may not have seen them doing so, but there's a beaten path from the wall to the forest.
23rd Apr '12 6:21:04 PM Arawn444
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* She could have seen its assorted pages while her wolf pack shredded the Vikings.
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