History Headscratchers / TheRoom

23rd Jan '16 12:02:00 AM Thunderchin
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** He did naht hit her, it's naht true! It's bullshit, he did naht hit her! He did '''''naaaaaaaaaht.'''''
9th Jan '16 11:53:45 PM crashkey
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** He was having a total violent freakout, he probably didn't think about what he was doing at all.
8th Jan '16 4:41:54 PM hamza678
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** Also note the he [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere stops hanging out with them]] after the tuxedo football scene, so however they met (which, as the above troper noted, could be a lot of ways), it apparently didn't stick

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** Also note the that he [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere stops hanging out with them]] after the tuxedo football scene, so however they met (which, as the above troper noted, could be a lot of ways), it apparently didn't stick
11th Dec '15 11:09:09 AM jollyhull
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*** That implies that this instance of RealLifeWritesThePlot means the character has absolutely no motivation for disappearing. That's not what RealLifeWritesThePlot means. It means ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: RealLife has an [[CaptainObvious impact on the plot]], [[ShapedLikeItself which is thereby impacted]]. The fact that Peter's actor left prematurely during filming doesn't mean the character ''didn't'' leave due to realizing how batshit insane and/or completely stupid his friends are. It may not have been in the script that way originally, but that is neither here nor there. Otherwise the trope would be "Real Life Makes Things Happen In The Story That Have No Causal Relation To The Plot". I feel like this shouldn't need to be explained.
13th May '15 9:59:38 PM DoctorSleep
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** Given how he's basically the Golden Child of the film and all of a sudden he's getting problems like the bank cheating him out of a promotion, Denny possibly using his loaned money to buy drugs and Lisa slandering him, his angry outbursts make some sense as he's not used to this amount of stress.
29th Oct '14 1:42:43 PM CheeseDogX
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* So, did Johnny hit Lisa, or what? Granted, Lisa is hardly averse to lying to "make things interesting." But Johnny's loud denials fall a bit flat when, while yelling at Lisa that he would never hit her, he pushes her violently to the couch. Also, he's been known to laugh at the thought of women being hospitalized by a jealous boyfriend.
29th Sep '14 9:47:58 AM SolipSchism
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*** That implies that this instance of RealLifeWritesThePlot means the character has absolutely no motivation for disappearing. That's not what RealLifeWritesThePlot means. It means [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin]]: RealLife has an [[CaptainObvious impact on the plot]], [[ShapedLikeItself which is thereby impacted]]. The fact that Peter's actor left prematurely during filming doesn't mean the character ''didn't'' leave due to realizing how batshit insane and/or completely stupid his friends are. It may not have been in the script that way originally, but that is neither here nor there. Otherwise the trope would be "Real Life Makes Things Happen In The Story That Have No Causal Relation To The Plot". I feel like this shouldn't need to be explained.

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*** That implies that this instance of RealLifeWritesThePlot means the character has absolutely no motivation for disappearing. That's not what RealLifeWritesThePlot means. It means [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin]]: ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin: RealLife has an [[CaptainObvious impact on the plot]], [[ShapedLikeItself which is thereby impacted]]. The fact that Peter's actor left prematurely during filming doesn't mean the character ''didn't'' leave due to realizing how batshit insane and/or completely stupid his friends are. It may not have been in the script that way originally, but that is neither here nor there. Otherwise the trope would be "Real Life Makes Things Happen In The Story That Have No Causal Relation To The Plot". I feel like this shouldn't need to be explained.
29th Sep '14 9:47:30 AM SolipSchism
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*** That implies that this instance of RealLifeWritesThePlot means the character has absolutely no motivation for disappearing. That's not what RealLifeWritesThePlot means. It means [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin]]: RealLife has an [[CaptainObvious impact on the plot]], [[ShapedLikeItself which is thereby impacted]]. The fact that Peter's actor left prematurely during filming doesn't mean the character ''didn't'' leave due to realizing how batshit insane and/or completely stupid his friends are. It may not have been in the script that way originally, but that is neither here nor there. Otherwise the trope would be "Real Life Makes Things Happen In The Story That Have No Causal Relation To The Plot". I feel like this shouldn't need to be explained.
29th Sep '14 9:35:03 AM SolipSchism
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** If you wanted to be ''really'' generous, you could interpret Mark's reaction as simply the denial/anger [[FiveStagesOfGrief Stages of Grief]]. He was just flat-out being an unremarkable douche earlier in the film. It isn't until [[spoiler: Johnny's suicide]] that he realizes, on some level, just how far out of hand things have gotten, and he's understandably unable to fully process the situation in the minute or two he has left onscreen before the end of the film. His blaming Lisa is a kind of [[HeroicBSOD Anti-Villainous BSOD]] which could quickly shift to a more appropriate MyGodWhatHaveIDone -- he just doesn't have a chance to get that far before the credits roll.

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** If you wanted to be ''really'' generous, you could interpret Mark's reaction as simply the denial/anger [[FiveStagesOfGrief Stages of Grief]]. He was just flat-out being an unremarkable douche earlier in the film. It isn't until [[spoiler: Johnny's suicide]] that he realizes, on some level, just how far out of hand things have gotten, and he's understandably unable to fully process the situation in the minute or two he has left onscreen before the end of the film. His blaming Lisa is a kind the beginning of [[HeroicBSOD Anti-Villainous BSOD]] a VillainousBSOD which could quickly shift to a more appropriate MyGodWhatHaveIDone -- he just doesn't have a chance to get that far before the credits roll.
29th Sep '14 9:33:00 AM SolipSchism
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** If you take the movie at face value, Mark is culpable but not nearly as guilty. Lisa is essentially freeloading while between jobs, she pushes for the affair, she fakes a pregnancy, and she gets increasingly flagrant in her disregard of Johnny. Mark displays at least a little reluctance about his involvement. Still, you're right. It is out of proportion.

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** If you take the movie at face value, Mark is culpable but not nearly as guilty. Lisa is essentially freeloading while between jobs, she pushes for the affair, she fakes a pregnancy, and she gets increasingly flagrant in her disregard of Johnny. Mark displays at least a little reluctance about his involvement. Still, you're right. It is out of proportion. proportion.
** If you wanted to be ''really'' generous, you could interpret Mark's reaction as simply the denial/anger [[FiveStagesOfGrief Stages of Grief]]. He was just flat-out being an unremarkable douche earlier in the film. It isn't until [[spoiler: Johnny's suicide]] that he realizes, on some level, just how far out of hand things have gotten, and he's understandably unable to fully process the situation in the minute or two he has left onscreen before the end of the film. His blaming Lisa is a kind of [[HeroicBSOD Anti-Villainous BSOD]] which could quickly shift to a more appropriate MyGodWhatHaveIDone -- he just doesn't have a chance to get that far before the credits roll.
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