History Headscratchers / ThePrincessAndTheFrog

16th May '16 2:17:06 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* And is it just me, or have some of the animators from TheProudFamily been recruited to work on the movie? Dr. Facilier looks like Oscar Proud if he went evil, and Mama Odie looks like Suga Momma.

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* And is it just me, or have some of the animators from TheProudFamily ''WesternAnimation/TheProudFamily'' been recruited to work on the movie? Dr. Facilier looks like Oscar Proud if he went evil, and Mama Odie looks like Suga Momma.



** Bruce Smith, the creator of TheProudFamily, was Dr. Facilier's chief animator.

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** Bruce Smith, the creator of TheProudFamily, ''WesternAnimation/TheProudFamily'', was Dr. Facilier's chief animator.
10th May '16 10:11:00 AM Psyga315
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7th May '16 8:21:19 AM uzuki54
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** This troper assumes it was a combination of Lawrence being the only human in the church that "Prince Naveen" ran into, knowledge of Facilier, and when we see them arresting Lawrence, Naveen has had a chance to explain the situation and is at the part where he needs Lottie to kiss him to reverse the spell. They probably aren't worried about incurring Facilier's wrath because they probably figured that if he hasn't intervened yet, he's not going to and possibly because Facilier can't seem to do a whole lot (voodoo wise) to just anyone. The worst he does is send the shadows to capture Naveen, who he has already put under his influence when Naveen accepted the deal back in his shop. When he's dealing with Tiana, he resorts to illusions and words to try and convince her to hand over the talisman.
11th Apr '16 11:01:02 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* Something that's never brought up in the movie...Since Tiana and Naveen could and did talk to many different animals when they were frogs, and might even still be able to do so as humans, what does this say about either one of them's consumption of meat in the future? In the book ''The Frog Princess'', Emma and Eadric swore themselves off of eating meat due to these implications, which is sort of what brought this to mind.

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* Something that's never brought up in the movie...Since Tiana and Naveen could and did talk to many different animals when they were frogs, and might even still be able to do so as humans, what does this say about either one of them's consumption of meat in the future? In the book ''The Frog Princess'', Emma and Eadric swore themselves off of eating meat after their transformation due to these implications, which is sort of what brought this to mind.
11th Apr '16 11:00:15 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* Something that's never brought up in the movie...Since Tiana and Naveen could and did talk to many different animals when they were frogs, and might even still be able to do so as humans, what does this say about either one of them's consumption of meat in the future? In the book ''The Frog Princess'', Emma and Eadric swore themselves off of eating meat due to these implications, which is sort of what brought this to mind.
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20th Feb '16 10:30:23 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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** Perhaps because that's just how the spell ''works''. Facilier is not omnipotent or a RealityWarper who can just magic up anything; he uses specific spells with specific formulas, talismans, magic words or whatever mumbo-jumbo. So he just put to use the preexisting spell of 'turning someone into a frog', which presumably began with the original ''Frog Prince'' story (which we know already exists in this [[TheVerse 'verse]]). Alternately, [[FridgeBrilliance it was more closely an allusion to ''The Frog Prince'', since in that tale the Frog Prince is almost forcibly trying to get married with a princess, much like Naveen wants to get married to Charlotte at that point.]]
20th Feb '16 9:40:11 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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** Facilier's shadow was freaking out just as much as Facilier was. And another shadow demon's hand grabbed onto the ''shadow'''s leg and drug it down. It wasn't at all the shadow turning on Facilier as it was they were both connected to each other. When one got drug down, the other did as well.

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** Facilier's shadow was freaking out just as much as Facilier was. And another shadow demon's hand grabbed onto the ''shadow'''s ''shadow''[='=]s leg and drug it down. It wasn't at all the shadow turning on Facilier as it was they were both connected to each other. When one got drug down, the other did as well.



*** The line would be clearer as "I have news for you Shadow Man… It's not ''slime'', it's ''mucus''. And you know what ?… MUCUS STICKS !"[grabs the amulet with her tongue]



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** It looks like the way to make a deal with the FOTOS or one of their clients (like Facilier) is to shake hands with him, regardless of whether the handshaking is ''willing'' or not. And you know, mayors and other politicians have this habit of going around [[FridgeHorror to shake electors' hands…]]
21st Dec '15 7:57:43 PM whisperstar13
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** It's not really so much "Working hard is bad", or is it the fact that Tiana has a very small social life, either. It's the ''reason why'' she works so hard, because she believes that working hard is the only way she will ever stand a chance of getting anywhere in life, and because she thinks that her father will have lived and died for nothing if she fails to open the restaurant he always wanted, and because she constantly tries to force this incredibly one-sided viewpoint on others throughout the story. What makes the film unique, however, is that it also portrays some of the benefits of Tiana's lifestyle, just as it manages to do so with Naveen's - thus, it's not so much "Working hard is bad" or "Having fun is bad"...but more like, "A balance between the two is ''good''."
21st Dec '15 5:31:15 PM whisperstar13
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21st Dec '15 5:30:28 PM whisperstar13
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*** I'm pretty sure at the time Tiana thought she was having some weird daydream or psychotic break because; TALKING FROG. So naturally it would never occur to her that A) she couldn't break the spell B) she had to be a princess as opposed to a "maiden" or some other fairy tale archetype



*** I'm pretty sure at the time Tiana thought she was having some weird daydream or psychotic break because; TALKING FROG. So naturally it would never occur to her that A) she couldn't break the spell B) she had to be a princess as opposed to a "maiden" or some other fairy tale archetype

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*** I'm pretty sure at the time Tiana thought she was having some weird daydream or psychotic break because; TALKING FROG. So naturally it would never occur to her that A) she couldn't break the spell B) she had to be a princess as opposed to a "maiden" or some other fairy tale archetype
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* I mean absolutely NO offense to anyone by this, so if it does come off that way, I deeply apologize. I was only wondering...The ruling family of Maldonia appears to be black. (Or at least AmbiguouslyBrown, as some people seem to label it.) And the royal guards are shown to be white. I'm taking a bit of a step onto some eggshells here, but...is that at all weird, is it just the more ignorant side to my naiveté coming to light?
** Weird in what sense? Since Maldonia is a fictitious country and we know next to nothing about its culture or history, there's no context by which to say that it's in any way strange for the dark-skinned Maldonian ruling family to have light-skinned guards. Since the state of race relations in the US at that period of history is downplayed but not completely absent in the film, the most you could say is that the Americans in the film's setting might find it odd.

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* I mean absolutely NO offense to anyone by this, so if it does come off that way, I deeply apologize. I was only wondering...The ruling family of Maldonia appears to be black. (Or at least AmbiguouslyBrown, as some people seem to label it.) And the royal guards are shown to be white. I'm taking [[/folder]]

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a bit of a step onto some eggshells here, but...is that at all weird, is it just the more ignorant side to my naiveté coming to light?
** Weird in what sense? Since Maldonia is a fictitious country and we know next to nothing about its culture or history, there's no context by which to say that it's in any way strange for the dark-skinned Maldonian ruling family to have light-skinned guards. Since the state of race relations in the US at that period of history is downplayed but not completely absent in the film, the most you could say is that the Americans in the film's setting might find it odd.
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* I understand that things like "green" and "hop from place to place" have a pretty strict criteria for effective double meanings, but is there a reason why Facilier turned Naveen into a frog?
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