History Headscratchers / ThePrincessAndTheFrog

2nd Sep '16 10:38:14 PM sabrina_diamond
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** The simplest facts of the matter are as follows - we know that Facilier has used the service of the shadow demons (whatever you call them) at least three times: once to get his powers, again to create the talisman and turn Naveen into a frog, and a final time to help him find Naveen. In the intervening time between these events, Facilier either directly or indirectly allowed for Naveen to escape his confinement ''twice'', spread the curse to ''someone else'', bringing them into the mess as well, when he kissed Tiana, and finally got his main man for the job caught and arrested. By the time the talisman is broken, the shadow demons have no reason to show any mercy for Facilier - they were in this to make a profit, and they can only ''wait for so long'' to get their fair share before their patience wears out and they choose to take [[YourSoulIsMind the second-best thing...]]

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** The simplest facts of the matter are as follows - we know that Facilier has used the service of the shadow demons (whatever you call them) at least three times: once to get his powers, again to create the talisman and turn Naveen into a frog, and a final time to help him find Naveen. In the intervening time between these events, Facilier either directly or indirectly allowed for Naveen to escape his confinement ''twice'', spread the curse to ''someone else'', bringing them into the mess as well, when he kissed Tiana, and finally got his main man for the job caught and arrested. By the time the talisman is broken, the shadow demons have no reason to show any mercy for Facilier - they were in this to make a profit, and they can only ''wait for so long'' to get their fair share before their patience wears out and they choose to take [[YourSoulIsMind [[YourSoulIsMine the second-best thing...]]
2nd Sep '16 10:37:44 PM sabrina_diamond
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** The simplest facts of the matter are as follows - we know that Facilier has used the service of the shadow demons (whatever you call them) at least three times: once to get his powers, again to create the talisman and turn Naveen into a frog, and a final time to help him find Naveen. In the intervening time between these events, Facilier either directly or indirectly allowed for Naveen to escape his confinement ''twice'', spread the curse to ''someone else'', bringing them into the mess as well, when he kissed Tiana, and finally got his main man for the job caught and arrested. By the time the talisman is broken, the shadow demons have no reason to show any mercy for Facilier - they were in this to make a profit, and they can only wait so long to get their fair share before their patience wears out and they choose to take the second-best thing.

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** The simplest facts of the matter are as follows - we know that Facilier has used the service of the shadow demons (whatever you call them) at least three times: once to get his powers, again to create the talisman and turn Naveen into a frog, and a final time to help him find Naveen. In the intervening time between these events, Facilier either directly or indirectly allowed for Naveen to escape his confinement ''twice'', spread the curse to ''someone else'', bringing them into the mess as well, when he kissed Tiana, and finally got his main man for the job caught and arrested. By the time the talisman is broken, the shadow demons have no reason to show any mercy for Facilier - they were in this to make a profit, and they can only wait ''wait for so long long'' to get their fair share before their patience wears out and they choose to take [[YourSoulIsMind the second-best thing.thing...]]
28th Jul '16 9:10:33 PM Selina57
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** What's more, his mother could have been a voodoo princess or descended from voodoo princesses.


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** This might explain why they went through with a second wedding ceremony. Since New Orleans has a strong Catholic tradition thanks to being settled by French and Spanish people, Tiana might be Catholic. Or Naveen might be Catholic, or both. There are certain conditions that are necessary for a marriage to be viewed as valid in canonical law. One of them is form-related -- i.e., a Catholic has to be married inside of the Catholic Church for the marriage to be considered valid (if other conditions are met). Naveed and Tiana were married in a swamp, not in a Catholic church. I suspect the second wedding ceremony was merely meant to have their marriage be valid in the eyes of the Catholic Church. In fact, if two people go through two wedding ceremonies because one was defective in form but one person didn't truly consent to going through with a second wedding ceremony (actions speak louder than words), that is grounds for annulment.
16th May '16 2:17:06 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* And is it just me, or have some of the animators from TheProudFamily been recruited to work on the movie? Dr. Facilier looks like Oscar Proud if he went evil, and Mama Odie looks like Suga Momma.

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* And is it just me, or have some of the animators from TheProudFamily ''WesternAnimation/TheProudFamily'' been recruited to work on the movie? Dr. Facilier looks like Oscar Proud if he went evil, and Mama Odie looks like Suga Momma.



** Bruce Smith, the creator of TheProudFamily, was Dr. Facilier's chief animator.

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** Bruce Smith, the creator of TheProudFamily, ''WesternAnimation/TheProudFamily'', was Dr. Facilier's chief animator.
10th May '16 10:11:00 AM Psyga315
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7th May '16 8:21:19 AM uzuki54
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** This troper assumes it was a combination of Lawrence being the only human in the church that "Prince Naveen" ran into, knowledge of Facilier, and when we see them arresting Lawrence, Naveen has had a chance to explain the situation and is at the part where he needs Lottie to kiss him to reverse the spell. They probably aren't worried about incurring Facilier's wrath because they probably figured that if he hasn't intervened yet, he's not going to and possibly because Facilier can't seem to do a whole lot (voodoo wise) to just anyone. The worst he does is send the shadows to capture Naveen, who he has already put under his influence when Naveen accepted the deal back in his shop. When he's dealing with Tiana, he resorts to illusions and words to try and convince her to hand over the talisman.
11th Apr '16 11:01:02 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* Something that's never brought up in the movie...Since Tiana and Naveen could and did talk to many different animals when they were frogs, and might even still be able to do so as humans, what does this say about either one of them's consumption of meat in the future? In the book ''The Frog Princess'', Emma and Eadric swore themselves off of eating meat due to these implications, which is sort of what brought this to mind.

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* Something that's never brought up in the movie...Since Tiana and Naveen could and did talk to many different animals when they were frogs, and might even still be able to do so as humans, what does this say about either one of them's consumption of meat in the future? In the book ''The Frog Princess'', Emma and Eadric swore themselves off of eating meat after their transformation due to these implications, which is sort of what brought this to mind.
11th Apr '16 11:00:15 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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[[folder: Is Tiana running an all-vegetarian restaurant now?]]
* Something that's never brought up in the movie...Since Tiana and Naveen could and did talk to many different animals when they were frogs, and might even still be able to do so as humans, what does this say about either one of them's consumption of meat in the future? In the book ''The Frog Princess'', Emma and Eadric swore themselves off of eating meat due to these implications, which is sort of what brought this to mind.
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20th Feb '16 10:30:23 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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** Perhaps because that's just how the spell ''works''. Facilier is not omnipotent or a RealityWarper who can just magic up anything; he uses specific spells with specific formulas, talismans, magic words or whatever mumbo-jumbo. So he just put to use the preexisting spell of 'turning someone into a frog', which presumably began with the original ''Frog Prince'' story (which we know already exists in this [[TheVerse 'verse]]). Alternately, [[FridgeBrilliance it was more closely an allusion to ''The Frog Prince'', since in that tale the Frog Prince is almost forcibly trying to get married with a princess, much like Naveen wants to get married to Charlotte at that point.]]
20th Feb '16 9:40:11 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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** Facilier's shadow was freaking out just as much as Facilier was. And another shadow demon's hand grabbed onto the ''shadow'''s leg and drug it down. It wasn't at all the shadow turning on Facilier as it was they were both connected to each other. When one got drug down, the other did as well.

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** Facilier's shadow was freaking out just as much as Facilier was. And another shadow demon's hand grabbed onto the ''shadow'''s ''shadow''[='=]s leg and drug it down. It wasn't at all the shadow turning on Facilier as it was they were both connected to each other. When one got drug down, the other did as well.



*** The line would be clearer as "I have news for you Shadow Man… It's not ''slime'', it's ''mucus''. And you know what ?… MUCUS STICKS !"[grabs the amulet with her tongue]



[[folder: How does one thing lead to another?]]

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[[folder: Facilier's plan: How does one thing lead to another?]]


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** It looks like the way to make a deal with the FOTOS or one of their clients (like Facilier) is to shake hands with him, regardless of whether the handshaking is ''willing'' or not. And you know, mayors and other politicians have this habit of going around [[FridgeHorror to shake electors' hands…]]
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