History Headscratchers / TheMentalist

5th Apr '18 8:45:56 AM Cherubino
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*** If that was true you'd think he would have seen his death coming.

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*** If that was true you'd think he would have seen his death coming.coming.
* In earlier episodes Lisbon tells Jane that if he kills Red John she will arrest him, because she can´t let that happen. In a much later episode she speaks with Jane and tells him, that she changed her mind and she has no problem if Red John gets murdered by Jane, and Red John doesn´t deserve to get a trial, or something like that. I don´t know the episode and her exact words, but she said she changed her mind. Jane doesn´t really believe her and thinks that Lisbon only pretends to change her mind. I always wondered if Lisbon was serious about her change of mind, or if she was just faking it.
21st Sep '17 2:37:35 PM Dragon101
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** It may be that he thought Wagner wasn't quite as cheap an imitation as the other too were, having a better motive if nothing else (WellIntentionedExtremist versus a couple of psychos doing it ForTheEvulz- he spared their friend since while he was involved, he was also not very bright and clearly forced into it), and greater restraint. Also, while he may hate "cheap imitations", that isn't why he killed them- he did it to save Jane, who made his life interesting. Wagner got caught and would either be executed (he later tries to make a deal to get off death row) or would at least spend a very long time in prison; those two were going to murder Jane and completely get away with everything. He hates cheap imitations, but he usually likes to have a slightly better reason for killing you, especially if there is risk involved.

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** It may be that he thought Wagner wasn't quite as cheap an imitation as the other too two were, having a better motive if nothing else (WellIntentionedExtremist versus a couple of psychos doing it ForTheEvulz- he spared their friend since while he was involved, he was also not very bright and clearly forced into it), and greater restraint. Also, while he may hate "cheap imitations", that isn't why he killed them- he did it to save Jane, who made his life interesting. Wagner got caught and would either be executed (he later tries to make a deal to get off death row) or would at least spend a very long time in prison; those two were going to murder Jane and completely get away with everything. He hates cheap imitations, but he usually likes to have a slightly better reason for killing you, especially if there is risk involved.
7th Sep '15 4:01:07 PM Fireblood
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** It's also possible that he did legitimately have psychic powers.

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** It's also possible that he did legitimately have psychic powers.powers.
*** If that was true you'd think he would have seen his death coming.
7th Sep '15 1:58:31 AM Killztwice
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** He probably learned what Lorelei told Jane and was capable of deducing those identities through his network of disciples.

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** He probably learned what Lorelei told Jane and was capable of deducing those identities through his network of disciples.disciples.
** It's also possible that he did legitimately have psychic powers.
31st Aug '15 6:17:11 AM Dragon101
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** It may be that he thought Wagner wasn't quite as cheap an imitation as the other too were, having a better motive if nothing else (WellIntentionedExtremist versus a couple of psychos doing it ForTheEvulz- he spared their friend since while he was involved, he was also not very bright and clearly forced into it), and greater restraint. Also, while he "can't stand" cheap imitations, that isn't why he killed them- he did it to save Jane, who made his life interesting. Wagner got caught and would either be executed (he later tries to make a deal to get off death row) or would at least spend a very long time in prison; those two were going to murder Jane and completely get away with everything. He hates cheap imitations, but he usually likes to have a slightly better reason for killing you, especially if there is risk involved.

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** It may be that he thought Wagner wasn't quite as cheap an imitation as the other too were, having a better motive if nothing else (WellIntentionedExtremist versus a couple of psychos doing it ForTheEvulz- he spared their friend since while he was involved, he was also not very bright and clearly forced into it), and greater restraint. Also, while he "can't stand" cheap imitations, may hate "cheap imitations", that isn't why he killed them- he did it to save Jane, who made his life interesting. Wagner got caught and would either be executed (he later tries to make a deal to get off death row) or would at least spend a very long time in prison; those two were going to murder Jane and completely get away with everything. He hates cheap imitations, but he usually likes to have a slightly better reason for killing you, especially if there is risk involved.
31st Aug '15 6:14:37 AM Dragon101
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** It may be that he thought Wagner wasn't quite as cheap an imitation as the other too were, having a better motive if nothing else (WellIntentionedExtremist versus a couple of psychos doing it ForTheEvulz- he spared their friend since while he was involved, he was also not very bright and clearly forced into it), and greater restraint. Also, while he "can't stand" cheap imitations, that isn't why he killed them- he did it to save Jane, who made his life interesting. Wagner got caught and would either be executed (he later tries to make a deal to get off death row) or would at least spend a very long time in prison; those two were going to murder Jane and completely get away with everything. He hates cheap imitations, but he usually likes to have a slightly better reason for killing you, especially if there is risk involved.
18th Mar '15 3:22:05 PM Milarqui
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* How does Red John guess who Jane suspected he was? This has never been explained.

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* How does Red John guess who Jane suspected he was? This has never been explained.explained.
** He probably learned what Lorelei told Jane and was capable of deducing those identities through his network of disciples.
20th Feb '15 8:39:12 PM Fireblood
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*** InUniverse: If Wagner gets killed, Jane would investigate the prison officials responsible. OutOfUniverse: EarlyInstallmentWeirdness.

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*** InUniverse: If Wagner gets killed, Jane would investigate the prison officials responsible. OutOfUniverse: EarlyInstallmentWeirdness.EarlyInstallmentWeirdness.
* How does Red John guess who Jane suspected he was? This has never been explained.
20th Feb '15 8:35:59 PM Fireblood
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**** Federal law trumps state.

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**** ***** Federal law trumps state.
20th Feb '15 8:35:42 PM Fireblood
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**** Federal law trumps state.
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