History Headscratchers / TheLegendofZeldaMajorasMask

18th Jun '17 9:04:15 AM PyrosNine
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** The solution lies in the masks (and some of the items)- each mask is proof that Link did something, just like the Boss's remains, which let Link force the results of previous loops despite seemingly not performing the actions. Each "trouble" resolved results in a mask, and each mask exists as not only a tool to use but also to force previous timeloops on the current. You're basically carrying all your previous timeloops in the form of masks, and they collapse possibilities when used. For example, you'll notice that some of the masks you get for completing tasks make those tasks much, much easier in subsequent loops, such as the Skull and Gibdo masks, and the ultimate form is the Boss's remains, which let you immediately resolve each area's problem by directly fighting the boss again. The ultimate mask, the Fierce Deity's mask, can be also thought of the "ultimate proof" that you helped everyone, and upon defeating Majora you resolve every plotpoint at once via time compression. It can be assumed that if you had to do one more timeloop after that, with the power of the Fierce Deity you could resolve everything in three days (and you can!)
4th Jun '17 9:28:20 PM Sammettik
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* Why do people seem to think that Romani was lobotomized? Sure, she doesn't seem to recognize you if you talk to her after failing to stop the "aliens," but it seems more to me like she suffered a ''huge'' HeroicBSOD. Jeez, why do people have to think the worst case scenario for ''everything''?
** This is a 7+ or so game where a moon with a terrifying face is about to end the world[[note]][[spoiler:[[NoOntologicalInertia the moon]] ''[[NoOntologicalInertia dissolves]]'' after you beat Majora, so it's likely that it's not the ''real'' moon, [[http://dnd-wiki.org/wiki/Just_3_Days_(3.5e_Epic_Spell) just something Majora conjured up with its magic]]]][[/note]], an EldritchAbomination with a child's mind is running around making everyone's life a misery in the three days they have left, and a number of named sentient characters die on-screen, one of whom you can kill yourself. [[InsaneTrollLogic Why wouldn't we assume the worst?]]
** Well, I talked about this before and from what I found out, if Romani wasn't lobotomized, she must have gotten something more drastic than a simple "WTF are you doing in our ship!? *immediate booting traumatized, BSOD-ing Romani overboard*".
** ...I hate to say this, but, if not the lobotomy, [[RapeAsDrama maybe traumatic probing]].
** I assume MindRape. She has no clue who you are, even if you did meet her before, and she has that vacant stare...
** It could just be a simple case of [[LaserGuidedAmnesia having her memory wiped as well]]. Obviously the aliens aren't going to send her back running rampant with fantastic stories of their existence, so they erase her mind and send her back, displaying all of the classic traits of amnesia. It would probably start to clear up in a few days, if they had a few days...
** Or she could just have gone insane from seeing alien tech and being in space. We wouldn't think anything of it, since we've seen depictions of advanced tech. But imagine someone from pseudo Middle Ages being in space and witnessing bizarre tech that she couldn't even comprehend. Even modern-day tech would traumatize an ancient person.
** It's like a caveman in a modern town, it'll just go smashing stuff and be afraid of everything on fire.
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[[folder:Aliens]]
* Why do people insist the cattle-stealing creatures are aliens? I mean, while they fly, they seem to fly along the ground when they take off.
** AliensStealCattle.
** Not to mention, the music playing at that part sounds vaguely other-worldly, and the tractor-beam-esque abduction of Romani certainly calls aliens to mind. Then there's the fact that unlike "regular" monsters, no one knows anything about Them (just look at their name!).
** I'd like to add that Cremia quotes Romani calling Them "ghosts" when you're helping defend her milk jugs.
** [[DoubleEntendre And her caravan.]]
** This could be because the concept of extraterrestrial life forms is unknown to these people and she goes with "ghosts" because they resemble Poes.
** Anyone with a knowledge of extraterrestrials will tell you that "They" look exactly like the Flatwoods Monster.
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[[folder:Grinning moon]]
* Okay, I got another one in regards to our old friend, the Moon. Why do fans keep thinking its ugly face is grinning? On the off days I actually feel like looking at the thing, it certainly doesn't look like it's grinning to me; it's quite obviously grimacing in pain or it's just pissed off. I wouldn't call that toothy-mouthed expression a smile in any way.
** According to ''Webcomic/BrawlInTheFamily'', the moon's actually terrified. It knows it's being pulled closer and closer to the Earth and there's nothing it can do about it. The grimace? It's bracing itself for the eventual impact.
** Okay, that's a dandy explanation for why its face is like that and ''BITF'' is great. Still doesn't explain why people think it's grinning, though.
** [[FanDumb Fans are weird.]] Most fan culture makes no sense compared to the source. If the "Moon's Tear" didn't give them the hint, nothing will.
** Precisely. Unless it's actually secretly crying with laughter because it's just one big nutcase that finds this whole thing funny, I do not see a smile on that thing's mouth at all. If that's a smile, then I'm Romani's uncle.
** After seeing Majora's Incarnation, I'd be willing to assume the Moon and anything else that closely related to Majora is a nutcase. Though personally, it appears more of an angry face to me.
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31st May '17 3:53:08 PM Twoeyesshort
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** Not to mention, the pointlessness of it leaks over into how it affects the plot - Link goes to all that trouble to keep Termina from being destroyed. It's probably one of the biggest adventures he's ever been on. [[spoiler: And then Termina gets destroyed anyway.]] ''Link's Awakening''at least made it clear that Link had to wake the Wind Fish in order to leave the island and return home, while also mentioning the moral implications of what he was doing. None of that works here because Link never found out about Termina's fragile xistence, and the outcome probably would've been the same if he had.

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** Not to mention, the pointlessness of it leaks over into how it affects the plot - Link goes to all that trouble to keep Termina from being destroyed. It's probably one of the biggest adventures he's ever been on. [[spoiler: And then Termina gets destroyed anyway.]] ''Link's Awakening''at least made it clear that Link had to wake the Wind Fish in order to leave the island and return home, while also mentioning the moral implications of what he was doing. None of that works here because Link never found out about Termina's fragile xistence, existence, and the outcome probably would've been the same if he had.
8th May '17 6:14:08 PM MatthewWayne
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** Remember, Link's original goal was not to save Termina. It was finding his old friend Navi. I bet that Link enjoyed exploring the world and meeting it's citizens as much as the player does. However, it also becomes apparent that while Termina is a beautiful place with wonderful people, it's incredibly small. If Link found Navi during his quest to save Termina, maybe he would have stayed. But he didn't. And there's no point in staying around to look for her because there's nowhere else in Termina to explore. So Link leaves in order to find Navi, and Termina ceases to exist. Personally, this troper believes that Link should have stayed, especially with the whole lesson that Skull Kid learns about how old friends will always care about you, but can't always be with you. But maybe Link prefers to be with someone that he's known for most of his life, and has been with him every step of the way. The citizens of Termina are nice, but they haven't experienced what Link has experienced.
2nd May '17 11:48:20 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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[[folder: Staying in Termina]]
* At the end of the game, why doesn't Link seem to consider staying in Termina? Sure, Hyrule is his homeland, but it's been made clear that no one there remembers the heroic deeds he performed in ''Ocarina of Time'' - the most anyone knows about him is that he stopped Ganondorf's coming attack and allowed the king to apprehend him. Not to mention, the knowledge that he will soon be forced to outgrow the people he's grown up alongside so far. (Who were never really that friendly to him, anyway.) On the other hand, in Termina, everyone has met Link in at least some capacity, they all ''remember'' the catastrophe he saved them from, Romani even offers to let him live at the ranch from then on...Did he ever consider staying there an option?
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2nd May '17 9:36:24 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** Not to mention, the pointlessness of it leaks over into how it affects the plot - Link goes to all that trouble to keep Termina from being destroyed. It's probably one of the biggest adventures he's ever been on. [[spoiler: And then Termina gets destroyed anyway.]] ''Link's Awakening''at least made it clear that Link had to wake the Wind Fish in order to leave the island and return home, while also mentioning the moral implications of what he was doing. None of that works here because Link never found out about Termina's fragile xistence, and the outcome probably would've been the same if he had.
29th Apr '17 11:40:34 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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29th Apr '17 11:39:41 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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* Considering we know now that [[spoiler: Termina never actually existed to begin with, and was created for the express purpose of being destroyed]], one wonders why Majora's Mask went to all that trouble. If it's that bent on causing despair and mayhem, why not just hijack Hyrule's moon and do the same thing there?
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18th Apr '17 7:05:49 PM PandaXclone2
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** Original responder here, and I totally agree. It's sad to find that they canonised Termina to being nothing more than the temporary product of a RealityWarper. In the same vein as above the Four Giants story of leaving Skull Kid behind are to some extent fabricated; the difference being that the Four Giants either represent or are actual entities that did leave Skull Kid at some point, albeit somewhere else.
17th Apr '17 4:51:48 AM JPO398
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** Remember that this particular Scrub Merchant expresses an interest in selling products to Gorons. But since they live up in Snowhead, which may or may not still be frozen depending on the three-day cycle you're in, he just decided to hang out in a nice tropical area and happened to be squatting in Lulu's room. Whether or not she notices him is another story.
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