History Headscratchers / TheLegendofZelda

4th Jul '16 3:43:43 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** What's the issue here? If Link reforges the sword to make it sharper and more effective against threats, I don't think the Kokiri would complain. Link isn't much older in ''Majora's Mask'' than he was in ''Ocarina of Time'', so odds are that any other Kokiri who was about the same height as him could've wielded the Gilded Sword, too, and we've seen objects of various sizes fit inside those chests. I don't think adding a few inches onto the sword would make a very big difference. If it did, they could just find/make a new chest.
2nd Jun '16 1:37:28 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** Exactly right. Just because the games don't flat-out say something is the case doesn't mean it automatically ''isn't''. There's just parts of the timeline in between that you're meant to fill in on your own. If Link has the Triforce, and Ganon kills Link, then it's only logical that Ganon's going to get the Triforce. You don't exactly need that spelled out in a cutscene.
28th Apr '16 3:34:19 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** Is there anything outside ''Super Smash Bros.'' that says they're made of clay? Because whatever comes from ''SSB'' isn't exactly canon. Their material has a lot of information about different things in the Zelda series, but a lot of it is off the mark, even down to the simplest of things. (Like how Aryll's trophy says her telescrope has an image of a turtle on it, while in ''The Wind Waker'', it's clearly decorated with seagulls.)
22nd Apr '16 9:34:09 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** ...I'm...not even sure what you're trying to say here. What, just because the Hero of Time appeared in three games, as well as sired another hero, that automatically makes him stronger than a hero who wasn't related to him? If anything, it could technically be said that the Hero of Winds is strongest because he ''earned'' the right to have the Triforce of Courage, by taking up a great responsibility with only his courage to guide him, fighting various powerful enemies, and collecting the eight shards of the piece and putting them back together. Whereas, the Hero of Time and his descendant in ''Twilight Princess'' both seemed to be born into their destinies. Whatever you want to think is fine, but a hero's strength isn't measured by how many games they've appeared in or whether other heroes are related to them.
24th Mar '16 4:29:30 PM LEDbullet
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* Twilight Princess is not a canon interpretation of common Hyrule, as it doesn't take place there. It is mostly set North of the overworld of Ocarina of Time. As for other games, Hyrule is always generally the same, but largely left up to interpretation and often distorted by a square or rectangular game world. Keen players will notice recurring features across various games, such as forests in either the west, east, or both (even in Alttp, the place where an east forest ought to be is a series of ruins and dead grass. Suspicious much?) Also, in every Hyrule but Twilight Princess (for obvious reasons) and Wind Waker (where it can't be seen, but Lake Hylia has to come from somewhere), There is a waterfall in the northeast, with a river heading west which feeds into Hyrule's main bodies of water. Aside from the cycles of overgrowth/deforestation, construction/destruction, and population/abandonment(not to mention the eruptions of Death Mountain), Hyrule is barely changing at all. It just isn't recognizable between interpretations.



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*** [[Shotacon Dude, he's a child]]Zelda II version? considering the age in the first game, one certainly hopes so
24th Mar '16 4:07:10 PM LEDbullet
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*** There is no message in Zelda 1 saying you got the wooden sword. Or for any other item.
*** There are mulitple white swords across the series. It's a general term for special swords that have just been reforged or tempered (assuming the blade isn't red, obviously, as in Alttp.)
*** The Wooden Sword can be used against Ganon in Zelda 1. The statement in the instruction manual is false. What you cannot do is defeat him ''without'' a sword of some sort.
*** There are multiple ways to fire projectiles from swords in the Zelda series, and they are not all blade-specific.
*** Alttp's statement about the Master Sword sleeping forever is directly contradicted by A Link Between Worlds. Oracle titles are vague as to whether you wield the real deal.
*** only five hearts are required to get the white sword in Zelda 1.
*** Considering the state of Hyrule during the NES games, the Master Sword may be good as dead. The Magical Sword is likely something completely different
*** a lot of the content in the above arguments call upon very inaccurate data, so read carefully into this.




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*** [[Shotacon Dude, he's a child]]
19th Mar '16 10:26:42 AM nombretomado
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** Before [[BanjoKazooie Stop N Swop]] was released publically in X-box 360's ports of Banjo Kazooie and Tooie, Rare had a field day with taunting rareware nerds (especially those of Rare Witch Project) of what could Stop N Swop be intended for by repeatedly dangling [[strike: eggs and ice blocks sculpted in the shape of keys]] carrots on sticks and nabbing it away with reasons like "we tried to give you the solutions, but you thought we were trolls and flamed us too much. You lose." This continued before the final reveal due to the sheer reaction it sparks at any moment "Stop N Swop" and "answers" are in the same sentence, so Rare poked at it with more fake clues and references. I wouldn't be surprised that with heated debates for the time line, Sheik's gender and a handful of other things, this is the same case here (minus the "lol, let's pose as trolls and then blame the nerds when we bail out with our timeline for teh evulz" attitude).

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** Before [[BanjoKazooie [[VideoGame/BanjoKazooie Stop N Swop]] was released publically in X-box 360's ports of Banjo Kazooie ''Banjo-Kazooie'' and Tooie, ''Tooie'', Rare had a field day with taunting rareware nerds (especially those of Rare Witch Project) of what could Stop N Swop be intended for by repeatedly dangling [[strike: eggs and ice blocks sculpted in the shape of keys]] carrots on sticks and nabbing it away with reasons like "we tried to give you the solutions, but you thought we were trolls and flamed us too much. You lose." This continued before the final reveal due to the sheer reaction it sparks at any moment "Stop N Swop" and "answers" are in the same sentence, so Rare poked at it with more fake clues and references. I wouldn't be surprised that with heated debates for the time line, Sheik's gender and a handful of other things, this is the same case here (minus the "lol, let's pose as trolls and then blame the nerds when we bail out with our timeline for teh evulz" attitude).
15th Feb '16 4:16:27 PM PeabodySam
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* Despite infamously resembling emaciated corpses wearing burial masks in ''Ocarina of Time'' and ''Majora's Mask'', Redeads are actually made of clay, according to more recent material such as ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''. Except... this might be an instance of VoodooShark, because it only raises further questions. Lighting Gibdos on fire in ''Ocarina of Time'' and ''Majora's Mask'' reveals that they are Redeads underneath their wrappings. So, does that mean that Gibdos are also actually made of clay in 3D games, despite being modeled after mummies (which are definitely real corpses, not possessed clay) and also being decidedly-undead skeletal Stalfos underneath their wrappings in 2D games? And what does this mean for Pamela's father in ''Majora's Mask''? Was he being turned to clay, too?

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* Despite infamously resembling emaciated corpses wearing burial masks in ''Ocarina of Time'' and ''Majora's Mask'', Redeads are actually made of clay, according to more recent material such as ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''. Except... this might be an instance of VoodooShark, because it only raises further questions. Lighting Gibdos on fire in ''Ocarina of Time'' and ''Majora's Mask'' reveals that they are Redeads underneath their wrappings. So, does that mean that Gibdos are also actually made of clay in 3D games, despite being modeled after mummies (which are definitely real corpses, not possessed clay) and also being decidedly-undead skeletal Stalfos underneath their wrappings in 2D games? And what does this mean for Pamela's father in ''Majora's Mask''? Was he being turned to clay, too?


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* Despite infamously resembling emaciated corpses wearing burial masks in ''Ocarina of Time'' and ''Majora's Mask'', Redeads are actually made of clay, according to more recent material such as ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''. Except... this might be an instance of VoodooShark, because it only raises further questions. Lighting Gibdos on fire in ''Ocarina of Time'' and ''Majora's Mask'' reveals that they are Redeads underneath their wrappings. So, does that mean that Gibdos are also actually made of clay in 3D games, despite being modeled after mummies (which are definitely real corpses, not possessed clay) and also being decidedly-undead skeletal Stalfos underneath their wrappings in 2D games? And what does this mean for Pamela's father in ''Majora's Mask''? Was he being turned to clay, too?
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11th Feb '16 1:54:51 PM PeabodySam
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* Despite infamously resembling emaciated corpses wearing burial masks in ''Ocarina of Time'' and ''Majora's Mask'', Redeads are actually made of clay, according to more recent material such as ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''. Except... this might be an instance of VoodooShark, because it only raises further questions. Lighting Gibdos on fire in ''Ocarina of Time'' and ''Majora's Mask'' reveals that they are Redeads underneath their wrappings. So, does that mean that Gibdos are also actually made of clay in 3D games, despite being modeled after mummies (which are definitely real corpses, not possessed clay) and also being decidedly-undead skeletal Stalfos underneath their wrappings in 2D games? And what does this mean for Pamela's father in ''Majora's Mask''? Was he being turned to clay, too?
28th Jan '16 6:43:52 PM nombretomado
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* It's commonly assumed that OOT Link is 10 as a child and 17 as an adult, but there is [[WordofDante no official source]] stating this. The official age is 12 as a child and 19 as an adult, based on Toon Link's trophy data in SuperSmashBrothersBrawl, which states he was 12 when he first received the Hero's Garb. As we know from TWW that this occurred on the day he became the same age as OOT Link, that means the latter was 12 as well (and 19 as an adult). Where is the 10/17 figure coming from?

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* It's commonly assumed that OOT Link is 10 as a child and 17 as an adult, but there is [[WordofDante no official source]] stating this. The official age is 12 as a child and 19 as an adult, based on Toon Link's trophy data in SuperSmashBrothersBrawl, ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl'', which states he was 12 when he first received the Hero's Garb. As we know from TWW that this occurred on the day he became the same age as OOT Link, that means the latter was 12 as well (and 19 as an adult). Where is the 10/17 figure coming from?
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