History Headscratchers / TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess

10th Nov '17 8:30:17 AM sugaricequeen
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*** It would still be a prison, though, since the Twili can't exist corporeally in the light world.
13th Oct '17 8:42:07 PM Twoeyesshort
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** The impression I always got was that Midna was counting on NoOnthologicalInertia. It wasn't that getting the Fused Shadows back would cause her to revert, it's that beating the ever-loving crap out of Zant would.

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** The impression I always got was that Midna was counting on NoOnthologicalInertia.NoOntologicalInertia. It wasn't that getting the Fused Shadows back would cause her to revert, it's that beating the ever-loving crap out of Zant would.
13th Oct '17 8:41:09 PM Twoeyesshort
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** The impression I always got was that Midna was counting on NoOnthologicalInertia. It wasn't that getting the Fused Shadows back would cause her to revert, it's that beating the ever-loving crap out of Zant would.
30th Sep '17 10:01:33 PM nombretomado
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** HE CAN. [[IMMeen IN ONE HUNDRED FREAKIN' YEARS]].

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** HE CAN. [[IMMeen [[VideoGame/IMMeen IN ONE HUNDRED FREAKIN' YEARS]].
23rd Sep '17 10:21:26 PM PrincessGwen
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** Unfortunately, had Zant suceeded with his plan, darkness would rule across the land and Ganon would be a god amongst Hylians.

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** Unfortunately, had Zant suceeded succeeded with his plan, darkness would rule across the land and Ganon would be a god amongst Hylians.



** Even if it's a Fantasy game, it still takes place in a medieval setting. Being a wolf might just be too much for human to handle. Even if they knew he was a human & the hero of time, transforming into a wolf would tarnish his image for life. That's a lifetime of strangers distrusting you just because they fear what you turn into.

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** Even if it's a Fantasy fantasy game, it still takes place in a medieval setting. Being a wolf might just be too much for human humans to handle. Even if they knew he was a human & and the hero Hero of time, Twilight, transforming into a wolf would tarnish his image for life. That's a lifetime of strangers distrusting you just because they fear what you turn into.
19th Sep '17 9:46:15 AM sugaricequeen
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[[folder: Communication through the mines]]
* How are the Goron elders able to send word to each other of Link's journey through the mines before Link is able to get to each of them himself? And why didn't any of them use this same communication to tell the guard to let Link take the Hero's Bow?
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14th Sep '17 8:29:16 AM sugaricequeen
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[[folder: Fused Shadows returned]]
* Why did Midna seem to think that getting the Fused Shadows back from Zant would be enough to restore her to her true form? She'd already collected them all and nothing happened, so why was she so surprised the second time?
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2nd Sep '17 2:38:42 PM HalcyonDayz
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** It could be [=Child!OoT=] -> MM -> TP, [=Adult!OoT=] -> WW/PH/ST. Ganondorf was being executed in TP because Link, having been sent back in time at the end of OoT, was able to warn the king about his plan before he could carry it out. That would also explain why the sages in TP aren't the same sages from [=OoT=] - Saria, Ruto, etc. were never awakened in the child line, so the previous sages (presumably killed by Ganondorf during OoT) were around to attempt to execute him. Meanwhile, in the Adult branch, Link just vanished from existence, and so he/his descendents weren't there to stop the next invasion of Hyrule. AndThatsTerrible.

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** It could be [=Child!OoT=] -> MM -> TP, [=Adult!OoT=] -> WW/PH/ST. Ganondorf was being executed in TP because Link, having been sent back in time at the end of OoT, ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'', was able to warn the king about his plan before he could carry it out. That would also explain why the sages in TP aren't the same sages from [=OoT=] - Saria, Ruto, etc. were never awakened in the child line, so the previous sages (presumably killed by Ganondorf during OoT) [=OoT=]) were around to attempt to execute him. Meanwhile, in the Adult branch, Link just vanished from existence, and so he/his descendents descendants weren't there to stop the next invasion of Hyrule. AndThatsTerrible.



** It's possible that the Triforce transcends Time. When Ganondorf got it in OoT, it crossed the timelines into Twilight Princess.

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** It's possible that the Triforce transcends Time. When Ganondorf got it in OoT, ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'', it crossed the timelines into Twilight Princess.



** I'd say it was a backup plan for the goddesses, like how the Triforce split up in OOT. That way, it is difficult but not impossible to rejoin the pieces. The pieces were probably magically teleported as soon as Zant broke them.
** It was meant as Foreshadowing of the fact that Zant isn't the rightful ruler of the Twilight, as he was unable to destroy the Mirror, just like Ganondorf was unable to claim the entire Triforce in OoT.

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** I'd say it was a backup plan for the goddesses, like how the Triforce split up in OOT.''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime''. That way, it is difficult but not impossible to rejoin the pieces. The pieces were probably magically teleported as soon as Zant broke them.
** It was meant as Foreshadowing of the fact that Zant isn't the rightful ruler of the Twilight, as he was unable to destroy the Mirror, just like Ganondorf was unable to claim the entire Triforce in OoT.
[=OoT=].



** "Strike the side" ? Link clearly jammed the sword into the pedestal then yank it back out, complete with the music from when you did that in OoT.

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** "Strike the side" ? Link clearly jammed the sword into the pedestal then yank it back out, complete with the music from when you did that in OoT.''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime''.



** The Kakariko Village of TP is different than the village of OOT. The Hidden Village is clearly the remains of the OOT Kakariko (this is supported by a sign in the village reading "Welcome to Old Kakarico" in Hylian). Thus, the Zora grave has nothing to do with the Shadow Temple, as it is in a completely different place.

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** The Kakariko Village of TP is different than the village of OOT. ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime''. The Hidden Village is clearly the remains of the OOT [=OOT=] Kakariko (this is supported by a sign in the village reading "Welcome to Old Kakarico" in Hylian). Thus, the Zora grave has nothing to do with the Shadow Temple, as it is in a completely different place.



** Well, it's never exactly made clear how Link and Zelda got Ganondorf arrested in the Majora's Mask timeline. There are some theories that Link used knowledge of the future to help Zelda convince the king that Ganondorf is evil. Thus, I've kind of been assuming that Link could still be called the Hero of Time even in the MM timeline if he knows the future. Plus, even though [[BadFuture that section of OOT]] [[AlternateTimeline doesn't actually exist]] in the TP branch, Majora's Mask ''does'', so combining Link's heroics in that game with the whole knowledge-of-the-future theory explains why he would still have a legacy in this game.
** the flashback in MM where Link remembers the Song of Time implies that when Link returned to his childhood after Adult Zelda sent him back, Zelda was able to also implant her younger self with memories of the Future. Presumably she sent Link back to before their first meeting and before Ganondorf made his move, as the final shot of OOT indicates. Once Zelda became Queen, she made the actions of their alternate selves known to the kingdom.

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** Well, it's never exactly made clear how Link and Zelda got Ganondorf arrested in the Majora's Mask timeline. There are some theories that Link used knowledge of the future to help Zelda convince the king that Ganondorf is evil. Thus, I've kind of been assuming that Link could still be called the Hero of Time even in the MM timeline if he knows the future. Plus, even though [[BadFuture that section of OOT]] [=OOT=]]] [[AlternateTimeline doesn't actually exist]] in the TP branch, Majora's Mask ''does'', so combining Link's heroics in that game with the whole knowledge-of-the-future theory explains why he would still have a legacy in this game.
** the flashback in MM where Link remembers the Song of Time implies that when Link returned to his childhood after Adult Zelda sent him back, Zelda was able to also implant her younger self with memories of the Future. Presumably she sent Link back to before their first meeting and before Ganondorf made his move, as the final shot of OOT ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime'' indicates. Once Zelda became Queen, she made the actions of their alternate selves known to the kingdom.



** Even if OoT Link stopped Ganondorf from conquering Hyrule, he had still caused a lot of trouble to the Goron and Zora. Presumably Link cleared Dodongo's Cavern and Jabu-Jabu's Belly once more after his little talk with Zelda, and started being regarded as a hero for those actions. It's also interesting to notice that some of the more striking references to said hero come exactly from these two races (one of which treasures a bow that belonged to him, the other one having some armour that was made for him to use), not from the Hylians themselves.

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** Even if OoT [=OoT=] Link stopped Ganondorf from conquering Hyrule, he had still caused a lot of trouble to the Goron and Zora. Presumably Link cleared Dodongo's Cavern and Jabu-Jabu's Belly once more after his little talk with Zelda, and started being regarded as a hero for those actions. It's also interesting to notice that some of the more striking references to said hero come exactly from these two races (one of which treasures a bow that belonged to him, the other one having some armour that was made for him to use), not from the Hylians themselves.
1st Sep '17 6:08:05 PM sugaricequeen
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[[folder: Gale Boomerang]]
* Why did the game bother saying that Link's boomerang houses the "Fairy of Winds," when she only speaks to him once and then never again, and hardly qualifies as a character? I know she's the reason the boomerang has wind powers, but considering the other miscellaneous doodads Link has found throughout his adventures, why would the developers think we would draw the line at "boomerang with wind powers?"
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26th Jul '17 10:47:27 AM Twoeyesshort
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** Alternatively, there's no reason to say Link explored the entirety of Gerudo Desert. The borders are blocked off by sandy cliffs that Link can't climb, and the look of it implies that the desert stretches out for a while afterwards. Given that this portion of the desert looks to be basically uninhabitable, what with the sandworms and the total lack of even a small spring, not to mention the occupancy by an infestation of Bublins, it's likely the Gerudos just live in another part of the desert, most likely an oasis.
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