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21st Dec '15 10:06:44 PM OrangenChan
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** Mid-late teens, maybe? That gives him enough time to have gone on a previous adventure while still being a kid.
1st Oct '15 1:34:02 AM PandaXclone2
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** Then it could be proportional to how big the change is. The Maku Tree and the kid being turned to stone (While I think that's magic instead of time shenanigans, I'll go with it here) is relatively minor and quick to change. The tower being built into Black Tower for darkness to consume the land? In the original timeline, Ambi never even got to finish the tower in her lifespan and it's originally meant for finding her beloved. Such a grand change in the timeline would probably take some time to happen.

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** Then it could be proportional to how big the change is. The Maku Tree and the kid being turned to stone (While I think that's magic instead of time shenanigans, I'll go with it here) is relatively minor and quick to change. The tower being built into Black Tower for darkness to consume the land? In the original timeline, Ambi never even got to finish the tower in her lifespan and it's originally meant for finding her beloved. Such a grand change in the timeline would probably take some time to happen.
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1st Oct '15 1:28:33 AM PandaXclone2
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** Then it could be proportional to how big the change is. The Maku Tree and the kid being turned to stone (While I think that's magic instead of time shenanigans, I'll go with it here) is relatively minor and quick to change. The tower being built into Black Tower for darkness to consume the land? In the original timeline, Ambi never even got to finish the tower in her lifespan and it's originally meant for finding her beloved. Such a grand change in the timeline would probably take some time to happen.

Alternatively, changes like the Maku Tree getting RetGone happen because that's how things will play out until someone is able to change it's course, aka Link. The Black Tower is something that is left undetermined until it succeeds given it's massive change in course. That being said, maybe the fact that it hasn't changed is saying Link has already won...
10th Jul '15 2:45:06 PM whisperstar13
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** Maybe, but it ''is'' basically invincible when its inhabitants have the power of the gods at their disposal and are fully capable of using it. And this is assuming that Twinrova would know where the Triforce was.
9th Jul '15 4:59:10 PM FoolsEditAccount
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** The same way everyone else does? Hyrule Castle isn't invincible (quite the opposite, if anything). If Agahnim could infiltrate it I doubt that would be outside their capabilities. I suppose you could FanWank something about Hyrule Castle being on high(er) alert after the whole Agahnim business, but it still seems odd that they never even considered it when almost every other Zelda villain has.


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[[folder:Veran's weakness]]
* Why doesn't Link tell anyone about Veran's weakness to mystery seeds after the Nayru fight? It's pretty important information for Ralph. And to pre-empt [[HeroicMime the obvious counterargument]], it's obvious that he's not literally mute. Does Link just hate Ralph?
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9th Jul '15 3:24:43 PM whisperstar13
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** ...Wasn't the Triforce shown inside Hyrule Castle at the start of the game? How would Twinrova have gotten her hands on it?
1st Jul '15 2:47:50 PM FoolsEditAccount
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[[folder:Could Twinrova have used the Triforce?]]
* ''A Link to the Past'' shows that the Triforce is capable of resurrection, so why don't Twinrova try to assemble it to resurrect Ganon? My only guess is that they're GenreSavvy enough to know that trying to assemble the Triforce usually ends badly.
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29th Jun '15 2:41:06 PM FoolsEditAccount
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[[folder:Link's age]]
* Just how old is Link supposed to be? According to WordOfGod this is after he's already had one adventure, and he looks to be adult height in cutscenes, but everyone refers to him as "boy" or "kid", even characters who presumably aren't using it as a diminutive or insult.
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24th Jun '15 7:01:19 PM FoolsEditAccount
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* Ralph, from Oracle of Ages, is listed on the Video Games page as TheScrappy in legend of Zelda. This is a case of YMMV, but how is Ralph annoying? He only shows up a couple of times in the game, and when he does, he only says a few lines before running off.

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* Ralph, from Oracle of Ages, is listed on the Video Games page as TheScrappy in legend of Zelda. This is a case of YMMV, but how is Ralph annoying? He only shows up a couple of times in the game, and when he does, he only says a few lines before running off.



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[[folder:Ralph is a Scrappy?]]
* Ralph, from Oracle of Ages, is listed on the Video Games page as TheScrappy in legend of Zelda. This is a case of YMMV, but how is Ralph annoying? He only shows up a couple of times in the game, and when he does, he only says a few lines before running off.

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** I assume ''Ages'' works on [[SanDimasTime parallel time.]] Assuming the tower was never finished during Ambi's lifetime before Veran showed up and it was meant as a way to signal her lover, then the BadFuture will not happen until the tower has been completed and Veran has accomplished her "Age of Shadow".

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** I assume ''Ages'' works on [[SanDimasTime parallel time.]] Assuming the tower was never finished during Ambi's lifetime before Veran showed up and it was meant as a way to signal her lover, then the BadFuture will not happen until the tower has been completed and Veran has accomplished her "Age of Shadow".
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** Except stuff like the petrified kid and the Maku Tree getting RetGone happens instantly, so SanDimasTime isn't in effect for everything... I'm willing to accept that the Black Tower exists outside of time [[AWizardDidIt because magic or something]], but in that case the other changes to the timeline should be staggered as well. [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot That actually could have been interesting]], if things start fine but the present progressively becomes more and more of a BadFuture, thus raising the stakes and heightening tension as you get closer to the climax...


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[[folder:Veran's possession]]
* One: Why does she never try to possess Link? She chooses the queen she was able to control indirectly anyway over the one person who managed to defeat her (and who is a OneManArmy besides), really? Neutralizing Link seems like the far smarter option, tactically. My only guesses for this one are either that she can only possess women, or that the Triforce of Courage protects Link somehow.
* Two: Why can't she just re-possess Nayru after Link breaks the possession?
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[[folder:Why didn't Nayru bring Veran into the future?]]
* After the ClimaxBoss against Veran-possessed Nayru in ''Ages'', Veran jumps hosts to Ambi, and Nayru rescues the heroes by teleporting them into the future. Why didn't she bring Ambi with them? Bringing Veran into the future would end her evil plot then and there, and she would then be free for another smackdown without the guards to protect her. The fact that Ralph and Link are so close to her when she casts the spell implies she has to be right next to people to travel with them, but she still couldn't have, I don't know, run up to Ambi?
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[[folder:How does Ralph travel through time?]]
* The time portals are inactive without the Harp of Ages. Ralph does not have the Harp. How does he manage to follow Link through time?
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16th Jun '15 4:35:16 PM PandaXclone2
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** I assume ''Ages'' works on [[SanDimasTime parallel time.]] Assuming the tower was never finished during Ambi's lifetime and it was meant as a way to signal her lover, then the BadFuture will not happen until the tower has been completed and Veran has accomplished her "Age of Shadow".

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** I assume ''Ages'' works on [[SanDimasTime parallel time.]] Assuming the tower was never finished during Ambi's lifetime before Veran showed up and it was meant as a way to signal her lover, then the BadFuture will not happen until the tower has been completed and Veran has accomplished her "Age of Shadow".
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