History Headscratchers / TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames

27th Jul '16 2:00:30 AM ADrago
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[[folder: Rosa and Crescent Island]]
* In a linked gamed from Seasons to Ages, Rosa first appears in the past version of Crescent Island even though she is from the present. How did she get into the past?
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1st Jul '16 10:41:33 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** It's probably because of what makes him similar to Mido or Groose. The problem (I'm assuming, based on what I know) is that they both overcome their hero complexes and rivalries with Link fairly early on in the game, with Mido just hanging out in Kokiri Forest after that and Groose actively helping Link out where he can. Whereas Ralph (I think) takes a bit longer to accept Link's role as the hero, and even when he does, he still rushes blindly off into danger afterward that would be best left for Link to handle.
24th Jun '16 8:22:57 PM Discar
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*** But Ralph has a habit of showing up, saying something, and then running off before anyone can try to talk him out of it. He's a bit of a LeeroyJenkins like that, so even if Link wanted to say "Dude, Mystery Seeds and Switch Hook", Ralph has run off screaming "NAYRU!!!". And by the time Link knows that Ralph has RoyalBlood and is about to run facefirst into the GrandfatherParadox, Ralph has already run off into the Black Tower. The next time Link sees Ralph is the first time anyone actually gets to talk to Ralph, and it's Veran, who has good reason to not reveal her weakness, doing the talking. The only time I remember that Link is really implied to say anything to Ralph is right before entering the palace, when the question of how Ralph knows about the secret passage comes up, and even that might just be from a strange look.

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*** ** But Ralph has a habit of showing up, saying something, and then running off before anyone can try to talk him out of it. He's a bit of a LeeroyJenkins like that, so even if Link wanted to say "Dude, Mystery Seeds and Switch Hook", Ralph has run off screaming "NAYRU!!!". And by the time Link knows that Ralph has RoyalBlood and is about to run facefirst into the GrandfatherParadox, Ralph has already run off into the Black Tower. The next time Link sees Ralph is the first time anyone actually gets to talk to Ralph, and it's Veran, who has good reason to not reveal her weakness, doing the talking. The only time I remember that Link is really implied to say anything to Ralph is right before entering the palace, when the question of how Ralph knows about the secret passage comes up, and even that might just be from a strange look.
24th Jun '16 5:12:07 PM LordPentium
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***But Ralph has a habit of showing up, saying something, and then running off before anyone can try to talk him out of it. He's a bit of a LeeroyJenkins like that, so even if Link wanted to say "Dude, Mystery Seeds and Switch Hook", Ralph has run off screaming "NAYRU!!!". And by the time Link knows that Ralph has RoyalBlood and is about to run facefirst into the GrandfatherParadox, Ralph has already run off into the Black Tower. The next time Link sees Ralph is the first time anyone actually gets to talk to Ralph, and it's Veran, who has good reason to not reveal her weakness, doing the talking. The only time I remember that Link is really implied to say anything to Ralph is right before entering the palace, when the question of how Ralph knows about the secret passage comes up, and even that might just be from a strange look.
23rd May '16 12:06:16 PM donkyhotay
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** Ralph travels to the past at the beginning of the game through the first portal opened by Veran, the same one Link travels through before he's received the Harp of Ages. While Link eventually returns to the future and receives the Harp of Ages to travel through time, Ralph never does and simply remains in the past. If you pay attention you never see Ralph in the future until the ending when presumably Nayru returned him to his own time.
14th May '16 3:53:17 PM FoolsEditAccount
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** Ah, I forgot about the endgame possession attempt. But that just makes it more confusing -- why didn't she try that the first time? And while it would just result in Link blasting her again, his stock of mystery seeds (and his health) is limited, while Veran can presumably keep up the possession indefinitely. Plus the guards had already arrived when Veran possessed Ambi -- re-possessing Nayru at that point would have spelled certain doom for Link and Ralph. Perhaps we can [[EpilepticTrees hypothesize]] that she can only attempt to possess people once (since she doesn't try again after Link dodges in the final battle).


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** It would still be courteous to let Ralph know he doesn't have to GrandfatherParadox himself to save the world.
13th May '16 8:17:42 PM Minishear
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** Presumably nobody else is holding onto a Switch Hook.
13th May '16 8:15:40 PM Minishear
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** She does. He just backflips out of the way. As for the latter, probably too thrashed to pull it off again, or anticipating that trying it would just result in another Mystery Seed to the face. Probably the latter, since she goes for Link as soon as she's banished from Ambi.
21st Dec '15 10:06:44 PM OrangenChan
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** Mid-late teens, maybe? That gives him enough time to have gone on a previous adventure while still being a kid.
1st Oct '15 1:34:02 AM PandaXclone2
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** Then it could be proportional to how big the change is. The Maku Tree and the kid being turned to stone (While I think that's magic instead of time shenanigans, I'll go with it here) is relatively minor and quick to change. The tower being built into Black Tower for darkness to consume the land? In the original timeline, Ambi never even got to finish the tower in her lifespan and it's originally meant for finding her beloved. Such a grand change in the timeline would probably take some time to happen.

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** Then it could be proportional to how big the change is. The Maku Tree and the kid being turned to stone (While I think that's magic instead of time shenanigans, I'll go with it here) is relatively minor and quick to change. The tower being built into Black Tower for darkness to consume the land? In the original timeline, Ambi never even got to finish the tower in her lifespan and it's originally meant for finding her beloved. Such a grand change in the timeline would probably take some time to happen.
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