History Headscratchers / TheLegendOfZelda

25th Nov '16 1:28:46 PM nombretomado
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** I think the problem might be you (and yes, I am well aware of the hypocrisy in such a confrontational statement); when something is responded to with "no this is wrong and has no basis in fact" on a page that more or less exists to handwave technicalities via fanwank, people get defensive; when the "no you are wrong" continues, it escalates with further aggressive defending. If you want people to have a chance of agreeing, or at least not responding to "no way" with increasingly aggressive "yes way", be diplomatic, be polite, make a token not-actually-significant concession or two. I do have theories about Twilight Princess and Wind Waker (namely, that wasn't a ghost, it was memories from a past life awakened by the familiar songs, Hero of Time having set up stones to play those songs [[CrazyPrepared for just such an eventuality]], with the meeting being along the lines of [[AvatarTheLastAirbender Aang talking to Avatar Roku]], and Wind Waker being that Daphnes, being the person least actually versed in the mystical, was simply wrong - or perhaps Link's soul departed that timeline due to the way it split off, and the soul remains in the Failure and Child timelines). Again, the whole point of Headscratchers is seeking answers for things that we still had questions on when canon is all said and done - there ARE ultimately no answers, which is why most responses are of the format "yes, or, alternatively, your question could be because blah blah blah" rather than "no, you are wrong, your question is obviously because yadda yadda yadda, even though neither of us has anything but circumstantial evidence, theorizing, and extrapolation to go by since canon is more concerned with telling a story and selling well than filling in every niggling background detail and some foreground cavities".

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** I think the problem might be you (and yes, I am well aware of the hypocrisy in such a confrontational statement); when something is responded to with "no this is wrong and has no basis in fact" on a page that more or less exists to handwave technicalities via fanwank, people get defensive; when the "no you are wrong" continues, it escalates with further aggressive defending. If you want people to have a chance of agreeing, or at least not responding to "no way" with increasingly aggressive "yes way", be diplomatic, be polite, make a token not-actually-significant concession or two. I do have theories about Twilight Princess and Wind Waker (namely, that wasn't a ghost, it was memories from a past life awakened by the familiar songs, Hero of Time having set up stones to play those songs [[CrazyPrepared for just such an eventuality]], with the meeting being along the lines of [[AvatarTheLastAirbender [[WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender Aang talking to Avatar Roku]], and Wind Waker being that Daphnes, being the person least actually versed in the mystical, was simply wrong - or perhaps Link's soul departed that timeline due to the way it split off, and the soul remains in the Failure and Child timelines). Again, the whole point of Headscratchers is seeking answers for things that we still had questions on when canon is all said and done - there ARE ultimately no answers, which is why most responses are of the format "yes, or, alternatively, your question could be because blah blah blah" rather than "no, you are wrong, your question is obviously because yadda yadda yadda, even though neither of us has anything but circumstantial evidence, theorizing, and extrapolation to go by since canon is more concerned with telling a story and selling well than filling in every niggling background detail and some foreground cavities".
11th Sep '16 9:03:22 AM GlaceonMage
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11th Sep '16 9:02:34 AM GlaceonMage
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11th Sep '16 9:02:06 AM GlaceonMage
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Headscratchers for Specific Games:
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* Headscratchers/ZeldaIITheAdventureOfLink
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaMajorasMask
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaTheWindWaker
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaFourSwordsAdventures
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaTheMinishCap
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaTwilightPrincess
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaPhantomHourglass
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaSpiritTracks
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaSkywardSword
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds
* Headscratchers/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild
4th Jul '16 3:43:43 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** What's the issue here? If Link reforges the sword to make it sharper and more effective against threats, I don't think the Kokiri would complain. Link isn't much older in ''Majora's Mask'' than he was in ''Ocarina of Time'', so odds are that any other Kokiri who was about the same height as him could've wielded the Gilded Sword, too, and we've seen objects of various sizes fit inside those chests. I don't think adding a few inches onto the sword would make a very big difference. If it did, they could just find/make a new chest.
2nd Jun '16 1:37:28 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** Exactly right. Just because the games don't flat-out say something is the case doesn't mean it automatically ''isn't''. There's just parts of the timeline in between that you're meant to fill in on your own. If Link has the Triforce, and Ganon kills Link, then it's only logical that Ganon's going to get the Triforce. You don't exactly need that spelled out in a cutscene.
28th Apr '16 3:34:19 PM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** Is there anything outside ''Super Smash Bros.'' that says they're made of clay? Because whatever comes from ''SSB'' isn't exactly canon. Their material has a lot of information about different things in the Zelda series, but a lot of it is off the mark, even down to the simplest of things. (Like how Aryll's trophy says her telescrope has an image of a turtle on it, while in ''The Wind Waker'', it's clearly decorated with seagulls.)
22nd Apr '16 9:34:09 AM QuarrelsomeChevon
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** ...I'm...not even sure what you're trying to say here. What, just because the Hero of Time appeared in three games, as well as sired another hero, that automatically makes him stronger than a hero who wasn't related to him? If anything, it could technically be said that the Hero of Winds is strongest because he ''earned'' the right to have the Triforce of Courage, by taking up a great responsibility with only his courage to guide him, fighting various powerful enemies, and collecting the eight shards of the piece and putting them back together. Whereas, the Hero of Time and his descendant in ''Twilight Princess'' both seemed to be born into their destinies. Whatever you want to think is fine, but a hero's strength isn't measured by how many games they've appeared in or whether other heroes are related to them.
24th Mar '16 4:29:30 PM LEDbullet
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* Twilight Princess is not a canon interpretation of common Hyrule, as it doesn't take place there. It is mostly set North of the overworld of Ocarina of Time. As for other games, Hyrule is always generally the same, but largely left up to interpretation and often distorted by a square or rectangular game world. Keen players will notice recurring features across various games, such as forests in either the west, east, or both (even in Alttp, the place where an east forest ought to be is a series of ruins and dead grass. Suspicious much?) Also, in every Hyrule but Twilight Princess (for obvious reasons) and Wind Waker (where it can't be seen, but Lake Hylia has to come from somewhere), There is a waterfall in the northeast, with a river heading west which feeds into Hyrule's main bodies of water. Aside from the cycles of overgrowth/deforestation, construction/destruction, and population/abandonment(not to mention the eruptions of Death Mountain), Hyrule is barely changing at all. It just isn't recognizable between interpretations.



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*** [[Shotacon Dude, he's a child]]Zelda II version? considering the age in the first game, one certainly hopes so
24th Mar '16 4:07:10 PM LEDbullet
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*** There is no message in Zelda 1 saying you got the wooden sword. Or for any other item.
*** There are mulitple white swords across the series. It's a general term for special swords that have just been reforged or tempered (assuming the blade isn't red, obviously, as in Alttp.)
*** The Wooden Sword can be used against Ganon in Zelda 1. The statement in the instruction manual is false. What you cannot do is defeat him ''without'' a sword of some sort.
*** There are multiple ways to fire projectiles from swords in the Zelda series, and they are not all blade-specific.
*** Alttp's statement about the Master Sword sleeping forever is directly contradicted by A Link Between Worlds. Oracle titles are vague as to whether you wield the real deal.
*** only five hearts are required to get the white sword in Zelda 1.
*** Considering the state of Hyrule during the NES games, the Master Sword may be good as dead. The Magical Sword is likely something completely different
*** a lot of the content in the above arguments call upon very inaccurate data, so read carefully into this.




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*** [[Shotacon Dude, he's a child]]
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