History Headscratchers / TheIsland

27th Nov '15 5:58:24 PM nombretomado
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* Imagine if someone famous enough and sexy enough to star in Calvin Klein ads (for the sake of argument, let's say ScarlettJohansson), was running around being partially responsible for car chases, explosions, buildings being destroyed and all manner of collateral damage (oh, and innocent lives being endangered). You would think ''somebody would notice Scarlett Freaking Johansson'' (well, a clone of Scarlett Freaking Johansson) being involved in such epically bad celebrity behavior and get CNN or Fox or Sky News or whatever involved (and you just know that TMZ would be on it like a car bonnet). But no, somehow nobody recognises her. Ever. At all. [[spoiler: Well, except for her child during the phone call. And do they follow this up? [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot Do they hell]].]]

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* Imagine if someone famous enough and sexy enough to star in Calvin Klein ads (for the sake of argument, let's say ScarlettJohansson), Creator/ScarlettJohansson), was running around being partially responsible for car chases, explosions, buildings being destroyed and all manner of collateral damage (oh, and innocent lives being endangered). You would think ''somebody would notice Scarlett Freaking Johansson'' (well, a clone of Scarlett Freaking Johansson) being involved in such epically bad celebrity behavior and get CNN or Fox or Sky News or whatever involved (and you just know that TMZ would be on it like a car bonnet). But no, somehow nobody recognises her. Ever. At all. [[spoiler: Well, except for her child during the phone call. And do they follow this up? [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot Do they hell]].]]
27th Nov '15 4:49:09 PM MrSeyker
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**** He means the complex towers, which can be seen on diagrams of the underground bunker.
7th Jul '14 7:46:05 PM sethonan
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** Cloning in real life has suffered more from ethics than an inability to conduct experiments; as in: we COULD be performing said experiments to iron out the kinks like clones having a shorter life span and things like that, but since it is unethical, we can't (at least officially); even in the movie's world, there are systems put in place, and is one of the least developed threads in the story: apparently cloning itself is considered ethical as long as the cloned material is not sentient or sapient; so the company in charge has been lying to authorities about the nature of the harvesting materials while perfecting the procedure. also apparently you CANT clone a person in this world without allowing sentience too. While the clones are intelligent they are purposedly misled and uneducated so as to be more easily controlled and harvested. Clones in The Island are not actual replicas of the personalities that the originals have, so they count as individual persons. It's safe to assume that while the gentic material is 100% compatible, it's also been upgraded and perfected so you could clone a genetic diseased person and the clone be completely healthy. They are harvesting for organs anyways, so if you had a degenerative disease cloning you wouldn't do you any good since there is no apparent way to copy your actual persona into the clone.
6th Apr '14 12:11:15 PM Kalmbach
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*** "With exception of Scarlett Johansson, how many people can you name who have appeared in Calvin Klein ads?" Kate Moss, Eva Mendes, Andie Macdowell, ZoeSaldana, Brooke Shields... and if she's a small time model, she'd hardly be in a position to ''have'' a clone in the first place (these things are unlikely to be available to people who aren't very well off or high profile, or most likely both).

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*** "With exception of Scarlett Johansson, how many people can you name who have appeared in Calvin Klein ads?" Kate Moss, Eva Mendes, Andie Macdowell, ZoeSaldana, MarkWahlberg, Brooke Shields... and if she's a small time model, she'd hardly be in a position to ''have'' a clone in the first place (these things are unlikely to be available to people who aren't very well off or high profile, or most likely both).
2nd Feb '14 9:33:28 AM CynicalBastardo
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*** The real Lincoln tells Jordan that he recognises her from various men's magazines. If she's appeared in that many publications, she can't be small time.
19th Oct '13 11:43:39 PM XCVG
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** RealityIsUnrealistic. Not all head injuries result in fatal trauma, even ones as grievous as attacks with wrenches and crowbars. There are cases of people taking hits to the head that by all rights should have killed them (including getting shot in the head), but instead walked away with a migraine and/or a concussion instead.

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** RealityIsUnrealistic. Not all head injuries result in fatal trauma, even ones as grievous as attacks with wrenches and crowbars. There are cases of people taking hits to the head that by all rights should have killed them (including getting shot in the head), but instead walked away with a migraine and/or a concussion instead. instead.
*** There are also cases of people dying from comparatively minor bumps, or having no visible ill effects and then having serious chronic problems later. Head trauma isn't so much milder, but much more unpredictable.
29th Aug '13 2:05:58 AM Nakuyabi
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** The mercenaries were sent by the private owners of the enterprise, because they don't want anyone to find out about the clones.

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** The mercenaries were sent by the private owners of the enterprise, because they don't want anyone to find out about the clones.clones.
[[WMG:They wasted a perfectly worthless plot]]
* With due respect, the complaints about Michael Bay's DebateAndSwitch concerning whether Jordan Two Delta ought to sacrifice herself for Sarah Jordan strike me as utterly callous and heartless RootingForTheEmpire fraught with all manner of UnfortunateImplications. Um, did it escape anyone's notice that Jordan Two Delta has a ''right to live'', people? I see no dilemma in her choosing not to be the sacrificial lamb the murderous scum who cloned her in the first place intended her to be. Saying she ought to kill herself for Sarah Jordan's sake mostly just sounds like saying "Why don't all you [[UnPerson worthless clones]] do us a favor and kill yourselves so that the ''real people'' can live?" Yeah, [[ThinkOfTheChildren that cute kid missing her mommy]] [[SarcasmMode means it's perfectly all right to murder society's friendless outcasts and inconvenient people for spare parts]].
21st Aug '13 11:35:22 AM MrDeath
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** The mercenaries were sent by the private owners of the enterprise, because they don't want anyone to find out about the clones.
[[WMG:They wasted a perfectly worthless plot]]
* With due respect, the complaints about Michael Bay's DebateAndSwitch concerning whether Jordan Two Delta ought to sacrifice herself for Sarah Jordan strike me as utterly callous and heartless RootingForTheEmpire fraught with all manner of UnfortunateImplications. Um, did it escape anyone's notice that Jordan Two Delta has a ''right to live'', people? I see no dilemma in her choosing not to be the sacrificial lamb the murderous scum who cloned her in the first place intended her to be. Saying she ought to kill herself for Sarah Jordan's sake mostly just sounds like saying "Why don't all you [[UnPerson worthless clones]] do us a favor and kill yourselves so that the ''real people'' can live?" Yeah, [[ThinkOfTheChildren that cute kid missing her mommy]] [[SarcasmMode means it's perfectly all right to murder society's friendless outcasts and inconvenient people for spare parts]].

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** The mercenaries were sent by the private owners of the enterprise, because they don't want anyone to find out about the clones.
[[WMG:They wasted a perfectly worthless plot]]
* With due respect, the complaints about Michael Bay's DebateAndSwitch concerning whether Jordan Two Delta ought to sacrifice herself for Sarah Jordan strike me as utterly callous and heartless RootingForTheEmpire fraught with all manner of UnfortunateImplications. Um, did it escape anyone's notice that Jordan Two Delta has a ''right to live'', people? I see no dilemma in her choosing not to be the sacrificial lamb the murderous scum who cloned her in the first place intended her to be. Saying she ought to kill herself for Sarah Jordan's sake mostly just sounds like saying "Why don't all you [[UnPerson worthless clones]] do us a favor and kill yourselves so that the ''real people'' can live?" Yeah, [[ThinkOfTheChildren that cute kid missing her mommy]] [[SarcasmMode means it's perfectly all right to murder society's friendless outcasts and inconvenient people for spare parts]].
clones.
21st Aug '13 11:18:49 AM Nakuyabi
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** The mercenaries were sent by the private owners of the enterprise, because they don't want anyone to find out about the clones.

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** The mercenaries were sent by the private owners of the enterprise, because they don't want anyone to find out about the clones.clones.
[[WMG:They wasted a perfectly worthless plot]]
* With due respect, the complaints about Michael Bay's DebateAndSwitch concerning whether Jordan Two Delta ought to sacrifice herself for Sarah Jordan strike me as utterly callous and heartless RootingForTheEmpire fraught with all manner of UnfortunateImplications. Um, did it escape anyone's notice that Jordan Two Delta has a ''right to live'', people? I see no dilemma in her choosing not to be the sacrificial lamb the murderous scum who cloned her in the first place intended her to be. Saying she ought to kill herself for Sarah Jordan's sake mostly just sounds like saying "Why don't all you [[UnPerson worthless clones]] do us a favor and kill yourselves so that the ''real people'' can live?" Yeah, [[ThinkOfTheChildren that cute kid missing her mommy]] [[SarcasmMode means it's perfectly all right to murder society's friendless outcasts and inconvenient people for spare parts]].
11th Aug '13 10:46:19 AM MrDeath
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** He says the defense department invested, not necessarily the actual military--probably their investment was in a way to find a way to repair soldiers, such as by creating new limbs and organs that were shot up.
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