History Headscratchers / TheInventionOfLying

17th Apr '15 11:11:10 PM Hemma
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** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating [[TheWarOnStraw Strawman]] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.

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** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias Gervais is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating [[TheWarOnStraw Strawman]] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.
2nd Dec '14 1:54:09 PM CheeseDogX
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** The real killer is, there's another scene where Rob Lowe's character says that Ricky Gervais' secretary called him an "overweight homosexual." She states that she called him something more offensive, to which Rob Lowe's character says "I stand corrected." Clearly, people in the movie are capable of realizing they or another person was mistaken, and capable of pointing it out. They just don't ever believe Gervais is mistaken for some reason.
13th Sep '14 4:23:26 PM FuzzyWulfe
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** This line of reasoning only works with the understanding that lying exists. If you knew someone was completely incapable of stating anything but the truth, you would give their statements high credence because you have eliminated a variable in the situation. If you know that everyone only tells the truth, you're options are that they are lying or some other mistake has been made. Since we've already established that it's impossible they are lying, the only reasonable explanation is that some other mistake has been made.
13th Sep '14 4:18:09 PM FuzzyWulfe
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***** You're confusing potential with absolutes, and your examples don't even make sense. The truth is you are here, but the potential is that you want to take a step so you can be there. Even in the movie, they use qualifying phrases. Mark isn't a "fat homo," but the secretary states that's what she thought was true of him. Inventing new things is about seeing the potential truth. "I think I can use tiny, controlled explosions to create a device capable of moving a carriage without needing horses."
5th Apr '14 7:16:31 PM Fireblood
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** That's a pretty Christianity-centric point of view you've got there. [[WatsonianVersusDoylist From two perspectives]]: On the side of "you're looking at the religions": Only Christians (and not all Christians) believe Ieshua was the living incarnation of the Abrahamic god. Most other religions believe that he was "a great man, but only a man" (a teacher/rabbi, or prophet). On the side of "you're looking at the production": What makes you think they were trying to spoof Christianity in particular and not religion in general? Christianity's not the only religion to use churches or have images (even stained-glass images) of important figures in their places of worship.

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** That's a pretty Christianity-centric point of view you've got there. [[WatsonianVersusDoylist From two perspectives]]: On the side of "you're looking at the religions": Only Christians (and not all Christians) believe Ieshua Yeshua was the living incarnation of the Abrahamic god. Most other religions believe that he was "a great man, but only a man" (a teacher/rabbi, or prophet). On the side of "you're looking at the production": What makes you think they were trying to spoof Christianity in particular and not religion in general? Christianity's not the only religion to use churches houses of worship or have images (even stained-glass images) of important figures in their places of worship.
8th Jan '14 3:01:46 PM JIKTV
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** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating [=Strawman=] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.

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** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating [=Strawman=] [[TheWarOnStraw Strawman]] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.
8th Jan '14 3:01:10 PM JIKTV
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** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating [=StrawMan=] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.

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** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating [=StrawMan=] [=Strawman=] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.
8th Jan '14 3:00:09 PM JIKTV
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** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating StrawMan atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.

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** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating StrawMan [=StrawMan=] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.
4th Jul '13 6:47:47 PM JET73L
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** That's a pretty Christianity-centric point of view you've got there. [[WatsonianVersusDoylist From two perspectives]]: On the side of "you're looking at the religions": Only Christians (and not all Christians) believe Ieshua was the living incarnation of the Abrahamic god. Most other religions believe that he was "a great man, but only a man" (a teacher/rabbi, or prophet). On the side of "you're looking at the production": What makes you think they were trying to spoof Christianity in particular and not religion in general? Christianity's not the only religion to use churches or have images (even stained-glass images) of important figures in their places of worship.


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** Maybe every day, people have to go through the "Lord, Liar, Lunatic" trilemma for every person who says something that doesn't fit their perception of reality? But for them, it's a dilemma, since "Liar" is a literally unthinkable option. Thus, the symptoms of schizophrenia are a memetic condition (believing false things from sources that seem sane), and schizophrenia itself is still biological (generating false beliefs and evangelizing them), but it's normally fairly easy for them to tell the difference between insane people and people who are telling unexpected truths?
6th Apr '13 10:46:32 AM PandaRosa
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