History Headscratchers / TheInventionOfLying

6th Sep '17 4:20:26 PM Theophane
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*Ricky's Gervais' character is literally the Father of Lies (ie., Satan) in this movie. I wonder if that ever occurred to Gervais himself.
2nd Sep '17 8:57:26 PM Luppercus
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*** No, there isn't. Not really. Imagination is thinking things which are not true, and if you can think those things, you can conceive of saying them. In order of people to not be able to lie (and for it not to make any ''less'' sense than it already does), they must be unable to think untrue things. This also explains why they are so unabashedly ''honest'', they can't imagine causing other people to not know things.

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*** No, there isn't. Not really. Imagination is thinking things which are not true, and if you can think those things, you can conceive of saying them. In order of people to not be able to too lie (and for it not to make any ''less'' sense than it already does), they must be unable to think untrue things. This also explains why they are so unabashedly ''honest'', they can't imagine causing other people to not know things.
2nd Sep '17 8:56:01 PM Luppercus
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*** It's possible that the bank did investigate after they check accounts at the end of the month and saw the difference, but he made a lot of money in the meantime and he probably put that money back in the account so most likely the bank just thought: Oh, this person or this teller made a mistake, we are going to take the difference out of his savings now. No damage done.




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** Maybe whatever cause this world's human not been able to lie is biological and Gervais' character is a mutant, and therefore the condition that causes schizophrenia (which is seeing things that are not truth) can't exist here, yet.
2nd Sep '17 8:46:52 PM Luppercus
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** In the case of the teller should be notice that the system was just recently down, so maybe has something to do with that, she might thought that the mistake was theirs due to that. He also seems very certain that he has $800 which is quite reassuring. On other aspects IIRC when he says he's black to his friends in the bar they do doubt that (the bartender says: you look to lightskinned to be black), things like having a incredibly authentic looking wig or a prostetic arm are not impossible.
17th Jul '17 7:34:06 PM CheeseDogX
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*** Even so, you'd think the bank would have a policy in place to investigate where the mistake was made. If someone, through an innocent mistake, thought they had a million dollars in their account, would the teller just give them a million dollars?



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17th Apr '15 11:11:10 PM Hemma
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** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating [[TheWarOnStraw Strawman]] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.

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** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias Gervais is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating [[TheWarOnStraw Strawman]] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.
2nd Dec '14 1:54:09 PM CheeseDogX
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** The real killer is, there's another scene where Rob Lowe's character says that Ricky Gervais' secretary called him an "overweight homosexual." She states that she called him something more offensive, to which Rob Lowe's character says "I stand corrected." Clearly, people in the movie are capable of realizing they or another person was mistaken, and capable of pointing it out. They just don't ever believe Gervais is mistaken for some reason.
13th Sep '14 4:23:26 PM FuzzyWulfe
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** This line of reasoning only works with the understanding that lying exists. If you knew someone was completely incapable of stating anything but the truth, you would give their statements high credence because you have eliminated a variable in the situation. If you know that everyone only tells the truth, you're options are that they are lying or some other mistake has been made. Since we've already established that it's impossible they are lying, the only reasonable explanation is that some other mistake has been made.
13th Sep '14 4:18:09 PM FuzzyWulfe
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***** You're confusing potential with absolutes, and your examples don't even make sense. The truth is you are here, but the potential is that you want to take a step so you can be there. Even in the movie, they use qualifying phrases. Mark isn't a "fat homo," but the secretary states that's what she thought was true of him. Inventing new things is about seeing the potential truth. "I think I can use tiny, controlled explosions to create a device capable of moving a carriage without needing horses."
5th Apr '14 7:16:31 PM Fireblood
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** That's a pretty Christianity-centric point of view you've got there. [[WatsonianVersusDoylist From two perspectives]]: On the side of "you're looking at the religions": Only Christians (and not all Christians) believe Ieshua was the living incarnation of the Abrahamic god. Most other religions believe that he was "a great man, but only a man" (a teacher/rabbi, or prophet). On the side of "you're looking at the production": What makes you think they were trying to spoof Christianity in particular and not religion in general? Christianity's not the only religion to use churches or have images (even stained-glass images) of important figures in their places of worship.

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** That's a pretty Christianity-centric point of view you've got there. [[WatsonianVersusDoylist From two perspectives]]: On the side of "you're looking at the religions": Only Christians (and not all Christians) believe Ieshua Yeshua was the living incarnation of the Abrahamic god. Most other religions believe that he was "a great man, but only a man" (a teacher/rabbi, or prophet). On the side of "you're looking at the production": What makes you think they were trying to spoof Christianity in particular and not religion in general? Christianity's not the only religion to use churches houses of worship or have images (even stained-glass images) of important figures in their places of worship.
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