History Headscratchers / TheInventionOfLying

24th Mar '18 7:59:26 PM nombretomado
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* Ricky's Gervais' character is literally the Father of Lies (ie., Satan) in this movie. I wonder if that ever occurred to Gervais himself.
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* Ricky's Ricky Gervais' character is literally the Father of Lies (ie., Satan) in this movie. I wonder if that ever occurred to Gervais himself.
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13th Dec '17 5:43:51 AM hackl
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** For me that scene pointed out a direction the movie could have taken regarding lying. The fact Mark's rival relayed "fat faggot" as the less offense "overweight homosexual", showed people's ability to be honest but in a less brutal fashion. His rival and secretary are both jerkasses so it makes sense they're brutally honest and don't mix words, especially because they hate Mark. Whereas later everyone is being a complete jerkass apparently because telling the truth means being as insulting as possible. As for the bank teller not giving a simple "are you sure?" in a world where people can still forget or misremember you've pointed out something a lot of people should have asked ''before'' they accepted his lies.

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** For me that scene pointed out a direction the movie could have taken regarding lying. The fact Mark's rival relayed "fat faggot" as the less offense "overweight homosexual", showed people's ability to be honest but in a less brutal fashion. His rival and secretary are both jerkasses so it makes sense they're brutally honest and don't mix mince words, especially because they hate Mark. Whereas later everyone is being a complete jerkass apparently because telling the truth means being as insulting as possible. As for the bank teller not giving a simple "are you sure?" in a world where people can still forget or misremember you've pointed out something a lot of people should have asked ''before'' they accepted his lies.
6th Sep '17 4:20:26 PM Theophane
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*Ricky's Gervais' character is literally the Father of Lies (ie., Satan) in this movie. I wonder if that ever occurred to Gervais himself.
2nd Sep '17 8:57:26 PM Luppercus
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*** No, there isn't. Not really. Imagination is thinking things which are not true, and if you can think those things, you can conceive of saying them. In order of people to not be able to lie (and for it not to make any ''less'' sense than it already does), they must be unable to think untrue things. This also explains why they are so unabashedly ''honest'', they can't imagine causing other people to not know things.

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*** No, there isn't. Not really. Imagination is thinking things which are not true, and if you can think those things, you can conceive of saying them. In order of people to not be able to too lie (and for it not to make any ''less'' sense than it already does), they must be unable to think untrue things. This also explains why they are so unabashedly ''honest'', they can't imagine causing other people to not know things.
2nd Sep '17 8:56:01 PM Luppercus
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*** It's possible that the bank did investigate after they check accounts at the end of the month and saw the difference, but he made a lot of money in the meantime and he probably put that money back in the account so most likely the bank just thought: Oh, this person or this teller made a mistake, we are going to take the difference out of his savings now. No damage done.




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** Maybe whatever cause this world's human not been able to lie is biological and Gervais' character is a mutant, and therefore the condition that causes schizophrenia (which is seeing things that are not truth) can't exist here, yet.
2nd Sep '17 8:46:52 PM Luppercus
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** In the case of the teller should be notice that the system was just recently down, so maybe has something to do with that, she might thought that the mistake was theirs due to that. He also seems very certain that he has $800 which is quite reassuring. On other aspects IIRC when he says he's black to his friends in the bar they do doubt that (the bartender says: you look to lightskinned to be black), things like having a incredibly authentic looking wig or a prostetic arm are not impossible.
17th Jul '17 7:34:06 PM CheeseDogX
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*** Even so, you'd think the bank would have a policy in place to investigate where the mistake was made. If someone, through an innocent mistake, thought they had a million dollars in their account, would the teller just give them a million dollars?



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17th Apr '15 11:11:10 PM Hemma
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** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating [[TheWarOnStraw Strawman]] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.

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** Ultimately, perhaps Gervias Gervais is subconsiously trying to be fair to religion, which the movie otherwise attacks, by creating [[TheWarOnStraw Strawman]] atheists who are {{Evilutionary Biologist}}s. Maybe.
2nd Dec '14 1:54:09 PM CheeseDogX
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** The real killer is, there's another scene where Rob Lowe's character says that Ricky Gervais' secretary called him an "overweight homosexual." She states that she called him something more offensive, to which Rob Lowe's character says "I stand corrected." Clearly, people in the movie are capable of realizing they or another person was mistaken, and capable of pointing it out. They just don't ever believe Gervais is mistaken for some reason.
13th Sep '14 4:23:26 PM FuzzyWulfe
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** This line of reasoning only works with the understanding that lying exists. If you knew someone was completely incapable of stating anything but the truth, you would give their statements high credence because you have eliminated a variable in the situation. If you know that everyone only tells the truth, you're options are that they are lying or some other mistake has been made. Since we've already established that it's impossible they are lying, the only reasonable explanation is that some other mistake has been made.
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