History Headscratchers / TheDarkKnight

12th Sep '17 1:08:18 PM brokensilence
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* I always figured that Alfred never intended to tell that second part of the story, as it doesn't seem to him to pertain to Bruce's situation, and it possibly gives bad advice. He doesn't say that part to Bruce until he straight up asks him.
12th Sep '17 1:03:47 PM brokensilence
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How in the hell was Batman allowed to be so brutal to the Joker during the interrogation? Even before the GCPD tried to intervene, he already smashed Joker's face into a desk, punched his hand, and threw him into a wall, and the GCPD just sat by. I'm pretty sure that bringing in an external vigilante to torture a suspect would put the GCPD in quite a bit of legal trouble.

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* How in the hell was Batman allowed to be so brutal to the Joker during the interrogation? Even before the GCPD tried to intervene, he already smashed Joker's face into a desk, punched his hand, and threw him into a wall, and the GCPD just sat by. I'm pretty sure that bringing in an external vigilante to torture a suspect would put the GCPD in quite a bit of legal trouble.
3rd Sep '17 8:10:29 PM brokensilence
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[[folder: Torturing the Joker?]]
How in the hell was Batman allowed to be so brutal to the Joker during the interrogation? Even before the GCPD tried to intervene, he already smashed Joker's face into a desk, punched his hand, and threw him into a wall, and the GCPD just sat by. I'm pretty sure that bringing in an external vigilante to torture a suspect would put the GCPD in quite a bit of legal trouble.
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23rd Aug '17 6:30:24 AM narutobarrage17
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This is extremely minor, but why is Harvey's unflattering nick-name at the end of his name? Harvey stupid. Harvey smelly. Harvey Two-Face. Looking at it shouldn't it come BEFORE his name? (and have a 'd') "There goes Two-Faced Harvey."

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This is extremely minor, but why is Harvey's unflattering nick-name at the end of his name? Harvey stupid. Harvey smelly. Harvey Two-Face. Looking at it shouldn't it come BEFORE his name? (and have a 'd') "There goes Two-Faced Harvey." "
23rd Aug '17 6:28:35 AM narutobarrage17
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[[folder:I couldn't risk my families safety.]]
At one point in the movie Gordon fakes his death, and even lets one of his cops break the news to his family. Later on he said it was because he couldn't risk their safety. Except... Joker wasn't gunning for him, at least any more than any other cop. And neither was the mob, despite that Gordon's the head of the unit. I guess it's more of a 'just in case' thing while they attempt to capture the Joker, but we're given no indication that him being alive would lead to his family being in danger from either of the big threats at that time.(Joker and the mob)
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[[folder:The nickname]]
This is extremely minor, but why is Harvey's unflattering nick-name at the end of his name? Harvey stupid. Harvey smelly. Harvey Two-Face. Looking at it shouldn't it come BEFORE his name? (and have a 'd') "There goes Two-Faced Harvey."
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[[folder: What does Alfred have against Harvey Dent?]]
There's a scene where Bruce has a dancer for a ballet at a restaurant, and Harvey mentions they're going there next week. A little later Bruce takes the entire group out on his yacht as a cover for doing Batman stuff in Hong Kong, making it seem like Bruce did it just to ruin the date between Harvey and Rachel. EXCEPT that it wasn't Bruce's idea. The previous scene has Bruce asking Alfred if he's thought of an alibi for him being away, and Alfred says he has. So did Alfred ruin the date because he's a "Bruchel" shipper, or was it just an amazing coincidence?
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[[folder:"We burned the forest down." ]]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX9oV6RgL6g This whole headscratcher came from watching this video, which spoofs the scene from the movie. While it might go into overly long gag territory it does make a quite a few points. Namely, "You said some men want to watch the world burn, so you burned down a forest? You did him a favor." Alfred basically committed eco-terrorism, destroying an untold number of animal lives in the service of catching a single bandit. They were trying to win the loyalty of local warlords with the stones, and there's always the chance the jewels were in the forest they burned. Nevermind that these warlords might not appreciate these outsiders causing a gigantic fire in their territory, even if they retrieved the jewels. "Yeah, sorry about burning part of your ecosystem to the ground, but here's a big jewel. That makes everything better, right?" The whole thought of it makes Alfred look like a right bastard. And while the movie splits the scenes up the video puts Alfred relaying the story and then answering Bruce's question of how they caught him together. When you look at it like that Alfred's solution comes off as burn down the city to smoke out the Joker. Not very inspirational.
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[[folder: Deranged killer in the car? I'll keep driving, boss. (Spoilers) ]]
During the scene where Dent kills Maroni the mobster DOES say "Don't stop for lights, cops, nothin'." Even so, does the driver NOT notice the burned DA they've been trying to kill sitting next to his boss, threatening to kill him?
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[[folder:Let's abandon capturing the Joker]]
I fully understand the priority shift of trying to evacuate the hospitals when Joker threatens to blow one up, but right before that they had all been gearing up to storm the place where Maroni told them he was going to be. If there was a possibility of stopping the explosion by taking down the Joker shouldn't they have sent at least one squad car to the location? I mean, Joker winds up going to the very hospital he plans to blow up, but they didn't know that.
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25th Jun '17 9:37:47 AM NateThePrate
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25th Jun '17 9:35:45 AM NateThePrate
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** Going back to "convoy prediction skills," remember that the Joker is hired by several factions of organised crime, who had people on the GCPD; Ramirez and Wuertz, for example. It's plausible there was someone on the force supplying the Joker with the Convoy route and possible contingencies.
10th Jun '17 10:48:36 AM nombretomado
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* Is it even possible for a police officer to be promoted to Commissioner straight from the rank of Lieutenant? ''TheWire'' made a big deal of the number of ranks there were (detective -> sergeant -> lieutenant -> major -> colonel), and IIRC you had to spend a certain minimum length of time at each level before promotion. I wouldn't normally care about a detail like this in a superhero movie, but the movie makes a point of talking about the way the city's legal systems work in a moderately realistic way, which puts the burden on the screenwriters to pay attention to the way these things work in real life.

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* Is it even possible for a police officer to be promoted to Commissioner straight from the rank of Lieutenant? ''TheWire'' ''Series/TheWire'' made a big deal of the number of ranks there were (detective -> sergeant -> lieutenant -> major -> colonel), and IIRC you had to spend a certain minimum length of time at each level before promotion. I wouldn't normally care about a detail like this in a superhero movie, but the movie makes a point of talking about the way the city's legal systems work in a moderately realistic way, which puts the burden on the screenwriters to pay attention to the way these things work in real life.
5th Jun '17 5:30:06 AM raizumichin
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** Considering how many IRL fans there are of characters like Ledger-Joker, V or Tyler Durden despite the fact that they're not supposed to be emulated, it doesn't seem too far-fetched that a charismatic leader like the Joker could manipulate a lot of people into doing his bidding.
10th Apr '17 5:06:49 PM Rubber_Lotus
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* The leader of Russian Mob is called Chechen. An actual Chechen can not lead Russian gang simply because Chechens and Russians hate each other's guts. It may be a nickname, but it's really weird to nikname Russian man "Chechen".

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* The leader of Russian Mob is called the Chechen. An actual Chechen can not lead Russian gang simply because Chechens and Russians hate each other's guts. It may be a nickname, but it's really weird to nikname nickname a Russian man "Chechen".


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** Dennis O'Neil's novelization gives him several pages of backstory (seriously), but the short version is that yes, he's native to Chechnya, and his original mob ''did'' get squashed by the Russian military. His current mob was recruited from a Chechen ethnic neighborhood in Gotham's sister city Bludhaven.
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