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9th Jan '16 11:18:18 AM KrytenKoro
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** Because the people in charge don't want people that have displayed too much tendency to think for themselves and act on their thoughts going to Terra Nova. They much prefer people that have explicit reasons to be loyal to whoever's in charge... whether it's effectively holding their families hostage or just because they have a tendency to do what whoever controls the money and the machinery tells them to do. People who want nasty, selfish things like control over their own bodies and their own families are dangerous to building a calm, obedient society that can be ruled over with minimum effort.
9th Jan '16 11:07:09 AM KrytenKoro
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** Also, if you pay attention, they sent back a probe and then found it after it took TheSlowPath.

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** Also, if you pay attention, they sent back a probe and then found it after it took TheSlowPath.Presumably, traveling to the future is not ''impossible'', but just fatal.
29th Mar '15 11:18:22 PM jormis29
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** Perhaps itís just fond memories of ImpossibleCreatures clouding my judgment, but the fence doesnít seem to '''need''' to do anything but support some sonic weapon and/or sonar towers. And it happens to break up herds of big animals just fine, kind of like wood based dragon's teeth.

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** Perhaps itís just fond memories of ImpossibleCreatures ''VideoGame/ImpossibleCreatures'' clouding my judgment, but the fence doesnít seem to '''need''' to do anything but support some sonic weapon and/or sonar towers. And it happens to break up herds of big animals just fine, kind of like wood based dragon's teeth.
29th Dec '14 12:12:19 AM ipatrol
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* So Terra Nova can communicate with the future somehow, as Col. Quaritch claims he didn't want to report the Sixer rebellion because he couldn't trust the people on the other end. But, if you don't trust the people in the future, wouldn't that make it more likely that he should report it? What if waves 7-10 were reinforcements for the Sixers? He seems to welcome subsequent waves into the camp with no concern at all. The future kind of has him by the balls here, they're behind a one-way portal. If they really wanted to take Terra Nova, they could send armed men through whenever they wanted in order to seize it by force.

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* So Terra Nova can communicate with the future somehow, as Col. Quaritch Taylor claims he didn't want to report the Sixer rebellion because he couldn't trust the people on the other end. But, if you don't trust the people in the future, wouldn't that make it more likely that he should report it? What if waves 7-10 were reinforcements for the Sixers? He seems to welcome subsequent waves into the camp with no concern at all. The future kind of has him by the balls here, they're behind a one-way portal. If they really wanted to take Terra Nova, they could send armed men through whenever they wanted in order to seize it by force.
22nd Oct '13 2:47:55 PM ReganX
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**** Elizabeth was a highly respected doctor so that may have weighed in their favour as far as potentially being let off with a fine went. The son did say that they "might" have been let off, so there was no guarantee. Maybe the fine was so huge that paying it wouldn't be an option for any family that wasn't wealthy, and their third children would be euthanised. It could also be that a fine wasn't always an option, and that it depended on the judge or whoever made the call. The Shannons didn't want to take the chance of losing Zoe so they tried to hide her.
12th Aug '13 1:33:44 PM 84788484
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** Because large groups of desperate, hungry people don't react rationally when a big oppressive government sits them down and starts explaining how things are going to be. More than that, the government is clearly trying to exercise control above all else... control of public perception, control of information, control for control's sake. It's what happens when governments feel they're losing control, they start trying to control everything just to prove that they can. (Witness the UK, where they'll arrest a woman for selling a goldfish to a supposedly underage kid, just to prove they're serious about the laws they made.)



* In a scene where the new arrivals are being given survival training, they are asked how they would figure out which way was North without a compass. Nobody knows until Maddy pipes up that you can tell because moss only grows on the north side of trees. And Washington commends her for it! Clearly, somebody who has grown up in a heavily polluted, environmental catastrophe of a world might never have seen a tree, and might not be aware that moss doesn't care what side it grows on, but Wash should be better informed. There ''are'' specific mosses that favour particular sides, but you would have to be able to distinguish them from all the other, almost identical, mosses growing on that tree.

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** Punishing people is easier than rewarding them, and often more profitable for those in power. Does the government tax you for buying things that are bad for you, or give you extra money for eating healthy?
* In a scene where the new arrivals are being given survival training, they are asked how they would figure out which way was North without a compass. Nobody knows until Maddy pipes up that you can tell because moss only grows on the north side of trees. And Washington commends her for it! Clearly, somebody who has grown up in a heavily polluted, environmental catastrophe of a world might never have seen a tree, and might not be aware that moss doesn't care what side it grows on, but Wash should be better informed. There ''are'' specific mosses that favour particular sides, but you would have to be able to distinguish them from all the other, almost identical, mosses growing on that tree.tree.
** Perhaps this is true for the particular varieties of moss that grow in the area around Terra Nova, and thus its applicability in other, much further-off areas where different kinds grow is a non-factor, as it's highly unlikely they'll be expanding into other, much further-away settlements within anyone present's lifetime.
12th Aug '13 1:26:47 PM 84788484
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*** Probably for the same reason it happens in the real world in countries with similarly fascist laws: people just want another child, and sometimes that want outstrips their rational thinking. Likely they weren't thinking of "raising her in a cupboard"... she seems to be perfectly okay being out and around all the times when there's ''not'' jackboots stomping up the front walk. They may have planned that by the time their eldest daughter went to college (she seems about that age in the series proper) that they could falsify a background for Zoe, claiming she was a relative's only child that had come to live with them, or something like that.


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** Maybe they made him shave during his weekly trip to the showers or whatever so that he'd stay recognizable to the guards.


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** First, someone already asked that above. Second, people tend to rebel when you tell them they're not allowed to do what they want with their own bodies and their own families, even if it ''is'' "for the greater good".


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*** Also, that's a logical fallacy, just because they have holograms and touchscreens doesn't mean they have dermal regenerators. "They have some standard sci-fi equipment" doesn't mean "they have all standard sci-fi equipment ever". May as well ask where all the full-body conversion cyborgs are.


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** Fashion is cyclical, some styles (like the t-shirt) are effectively eternal, and they don't want to have people wearing what will look like the equivalent of a shiny silver bodysuit in twenty years.


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** You're also assuming that they cared enough about the prisoners to zealously watch them even more than prisoners are watched in the modern day. The prison honestly seems more like where they dump practically any criminal in hopes that they'll quickly die and free up the bare concrete cube for another citizen they've found an excuse to murder. They probably figure that most of the prisoners are too weak and full of pollution to do much of anything after a relatively short time, and thus that putting heavy locks on the doors and bars on the windows is plenty to keep them from attempting anything. Why spend extra money and resources into what is effectively a very large and very slow gas chamber?


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*** RealityIsUnrealistic, bombs and shrapnel don't operate in a way that seems "logical" to the average person, who's used to media that tends to treat them like a video game's Area of Effect attack ("Everything in this circle is 100% fucked, everything outside of this circle is 100% fine").
12th Aug '13 1:09:04 PM 84788484
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** Meta reason, it's an action series, and you can't have your action hero protagonist spending the entire first season getting back to a point where he's able to run for a few seconds without collapsing. In universe reason... hell, I don't know, maybe some of the pollution acts as steroids and keeps his muscles from atrophying?
12th Aug '13 1:04:31 PM 84788484
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** Because the people in charge don't want people that have displayed too much tendency to think for themselves and act on their thoughts going to Terra Nova. They much prefer people that have explicit reasons to be loyal to whoever's in charge... whether it's effectively holding their families hostage or just because they have a tendency to do what whoever controls the money and the machinery tells them to do. People who want nasty, selfish things like control over their own bodies and their own families are dangerous to building a calm, obedient society that can be ruled over with minimum effort.
12th Aug '13 12:59:33 PM 84788484
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*** How exactly would they live in comfort without sending people back first to build comforts for them and an infrastructure for them to be comfortable in? You're giving future-government waaaay too much credit.
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