History Headscratchers / TNA

1st Nov '16 8:23:55 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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** Kurt Angle was half of TNA's most money making program, though by that logic Samoa Joe should be in right next to him. Not implying it's well handled but the point of it ''is'' to thank those who contributed to the company's longevity. Sting may not have done much, and may have been in fact part of the worst, or at least contender for the most infamous match in company history, but it largely wasn't his fault, so it could be a thank you for sticking around through so much crap. Team 3D brought the IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team titles to TNA, and while that run was the beginning of the end of TNA's deal with New Japan, it the negative fallout was not Team 3D's fault, so that could be another thank you\apology for Team 3D enduring through crap when they could have easily departed.

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** Kurt Angle was half of TNA's most money making program, though by that logic Samoa Joe should be in right next to him.him...but Joe wasn't the one who brought the IWGP Heavyweight Title belt around his shoulders. Not implying it's well handled but the point of it ''is'' to thank those who contributed to the company's longevity. Sting may not have done much, and may have been in fact part of the worst, or at least contender for the most infamous match in company history, but it largely wasn't his fault, so it could be a thank you for sticking around through so much crap. Team 3D brought the IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team titles to TNA, and while that run was the beginning of the end of TNA's deal with New Japan, it the negative fallout was not Team 3D's fault, so that could be another thank you\apology for Team 3D enduring through crap when they could have easily departed. The point seems to be convincing the big names that they didn't waist their time, that when TNA becomes the great company people say it has\had the potential to become they will look back on the hall of fame and see you were a part of making it great.
1st Nov '16 8:15:08 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* What's the point of having a TNA Hall of Fame? I mean, I know it's supposed to honor those who made major contributions to the history of TNA, but almost all of the inductees made their fame ''before'' coming to TNA and didn't add much besides credibility and star power. In fact, none of the stuff they accomplished in TNA is well-known outside of the core fan base - it's not like they were instrumental in causing some altering decisions that put the company towards a new direction besides opening a floodgate of old-timers into the promotion. The sole exception is perhaps Jeff Jarrett, and that's because he's the ''founder'' of the promotion. The rest (Team 3D, Kurt Angle, Sting) are still more known for stuff outside of TNA. Hell, even Earl Hebner is more known for the Montreal Screwjob than anything else.

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** Consider you watch TNA for the first time, see this power stable called The Beat Down Clan, and then see some guy whose entrance music contains the words "beat down". You'd probably be wondering why he wasn't with them, so from that perspective it probably made sense to add Joe, and rather than explain why he and Low Ki broke up(even though there was already a pretty good one with Ki snatching the X Division title belt in Joe's absence) they just let them stay together when Joe moved into the group. Granted, that's not an excuse for not explaining it to the people already watching iMPACT who remember Joe and M.V.P. not getting along but there probably wasn't much thought put into it.
* What's the point of having a TNA Hall of Fame? I mean, I know it's supposed to honor those who made major contributions to the history of TNA, but almost all of the inductees made their fame ''before'' coming to TNA and didn't add much besides credibility and star power. In fact, none of the stuff they accomplished in TNA is well-known outside of the core fan base - it's not like they were instrumental in causing some altering decisions that put the company towards a new direction besides opening a floodgate of old-timers into the promotion. The sole exception is perhaps Jeff Jarrett, and that's because he's the ''founder'' of the promotion. The rest (Team 3D, Kurt Angle, Sting) are still more known for stuff outside of TNA. Hell, even Earl Hebner is more known for the Montreal Screwjob than anything else.else.
** Kurt Angle was half of TNA's most money making program, though by that logic Samoa Joe should be in right next to him. Not implying it's well handled but the point of it ''is'' to thank those who contributed to the company's longevity. Sting may not have done much, and may have been in fact part of the worst, or at least contender for the most infamous match in company history, but it largely wasn't his fault, so it could be a thank you for sticking around through so much crap. Team 3D brought the IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team titles to TNA, and while that run was the beginning of the end of TNA's deal with New Japan, it the negative fallout was not Team 3D's fault, so that could be another thank you\apology for Team 3D enduring through crap when they could have easily departed.
21st Jun '16 7:54:38 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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** His reasoning is that a match with a gimmick will always be inherently better than a match without a gimmick. True, that doesn't entirely answer why ''poles'' have to the gimmick in question, but it's a start.
* The whole Mexican America thing. Sure, it's tasteless, but the people they chose for it is missing the mark. The concept is simple; A bunch of pure-bloods Mexicans ([[CaptainObvious from Mexico]]), but none of them are from there. Anarquia is Mexican, to be fair, but from L.A., Rosita is Puerto Rican and from New York and Hernandez is partially Mexican, but also Puerto Rican and from Texas. And Sarita isn't even Hispanic at all, and is from Canada! It'd be like making a stable of children of pure-blood Nazis that came from Argentina, with a German guy from Wisconsin, a Austrian girl from Minnesota, a half-German half-Polish guy from Illinos and a girl from South Korea that looks kind of white.

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** His reasoning is that a match with a gimmick will always be inherently better than a match without a gimmick. True, that doesn't entirely answer why ''poles'' have to be the gimmick in question, but it's a start.
* The whole Mexican America thing. Sure, it's tasteless, but the people they chose for it is missing the mark. The concept is simple; A bunch of pure-bloods Mexicans ([[CaptainObvious from Mexico]]), but none of them are from there. Anarquia is Mexican, to be fair, but from L.A., Rosita is Puerto Rican and from New York and Hernandez is partially Mexican, but also Puerto Rican and from Texas. And Sarita isn't even Hispanic at all, and is from Canada! It'd be like making a stable of children of pure-blood Nazis that came from Argentina, with a German guy from Wisconsin, a Austrian girl from Minnesota, a half-German half-Polish guy from Illinos Illinois and a girl from South Korea that looks kind of white.



** Because that would be too much focus for a knockout, who were Dutch Mantel's pet project? Okay, that's not a good in-story reason but that's consistent with the booking.

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** Because that would be too much focus for a knockout, who were Dutch Mantel's pet project? Okay, that's not a good in-story reason but that's consistent with the booking. Really, let's go with Kazarian not looking back at that particularly episode and none of his buddies telling him since he doesn't need the added grief?
29th Apr '16 1:01:06 PM thecarolinabull01
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* The booking, well, in general, but for the woman's matches in particular, why can't they allow these '''wrestlers''' the opportunity to strut their stuff? But no, we need Sarita in a thong and the Beautiful People.

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* The booking, well, in general, but for the woman's matches in particular, why can't they allow these '''wrestlers''' the opportunity to strut their stuff? But no, we need Sarita [[Wrestling/SarahStock Sarita]] in a thong and the Beautiful People.Wrestling/TheBeautifulPeople.



*** Sarita's ring attire barely qualifies as a thong. Madison Rayne is the Knockout Champion, a bitchy ScreamingWarrior. Tara is a BadassBiker with an {{Animal Motif|s}}. Taylor Wilde was a [[IHaveTheHighGround High Ground]] GenkiGirl. Mickie James is a PintSizedPowerhouse UnkemptBeauty with a hidden keg of UnstoppableRage. Yet all have wrestled in revealing outfits comparable to the Beautiful People, even complete with [[PantyShot upskirt value]] in some cases, including one of Madison's regular outfits. ''This is all while consistently telling stories and putting on matches good enough to put the vast majority of the current-era WWE Divas product to shame''. So it's not like any of the Knockouts, namely Sarita, who has worn the same revealing level of attire in different promotions before (just check a Sarah Stock Wrestling/{{SHIMMER}} photoshoot or two), are suddenly being told by creative that they're only good for booty-shaking.

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*** Sarita's ring attire barely qualifies as a thong. Madison Rayne Wrestling/MadisonRayne is the Knockout Champion, a bitchy ScreamingWarrior. Tara [[Wrestling/LisaMarieVaron Tara]] is a BadassBiker with an {{Animal Motif|s}}. Taylor Wilde Wrestling/TaylorWilde was a [[IHaveTheHighGround High Ground]] GenkiGirl. Mickie James Wrestling/MickieJames is a PintSizedPowerhouse UnkemptBeauty with a hidden keg of UnstoppableRage. Yet all have wrestled in revealing outfits comparable to the Beautiful People, even complete with [[PantyShot upskirt value]] in some cases, including one of Madison's regular outfits. ''This is all while consistently telling stories and putting on matches good enough to put the vast majority of the current-era WWE Divas product to shame''. So it's not like any of the Knockouts, namely Sarita, who has worn the same revealing level of attire in different promotions before (just check a Sarah Stock Wrestling/{{SHIMMER}} photoshoot or two), are suddenly being told by creative that they're only good for booty-shaking.
13th Nov '15 9:10:25 AM SomeoneElse17
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* So, Traci Brooks just slept with Bischoff to get a job, okay...but isn't Traci Brooks married to Kazarian in story as well as in real life? So why hasn't Kazarian or any other Fortune member (Fortune of course being the archrivals to Immortal) made a big deal about Eric Bischoff fucking one of their wives?

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* So, Traci Brooks just slept with Bischoff to get a job, okay...but okay…but isn't Traci Brooks married to Kazarian [[Wrestling/FrankieKazarian Kazarian]] in story as well as in real life? So why hasn't Kazarian or any other Fortune member (Fortune of course being the archrivals arch-rivals to Immortal) made a big deal about Eric Bischoff fucking one of their wives?
10th Nov '15 8:13:52 AM Nyame
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**** If that were the case then they would've changed Chris Sabin's name too.
3rd Oct '15 7:30:53 AM Nyame
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** Considering that Joe left the company shortly after the angle started, probably not.

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** Considering that Joe left the company shortly after the angle started, probably not.not.
* What's the point of having a TNA Hall of Fame? I mean, I know it's supposed to honor those who made major contributions to the history of TNA, but almost all of the inductees made their fame ''before'' coming to TNA and didn't add much besides credibility and star power. In fact, none of the stuff they accomplished in TNA is well-known outside of the core fan base - it's not like they were instrumental in causing some altering decisions that put the company towards a new direction besides opening a floodgate of old-timers into the promotion. The sole exception is perhaps Jeff Jarrett, and that's because he's the ''founder'' of the promotion. The rest (Team 3D, Kurt Angle, Sting) are still more known for stuff outside of TNA. Hell, even Earl Hebner is more known for the Montreal Screwjob than anything else.
22nd Aug '15 2:01:13 PM Nyame
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* Will they ever explain why Joe & Low-Ki decided to join M.V.P.'s entourage?

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* Will they ever explain why Joe & Low-Ki decided to join M.V.P.'s entourage?entourage?
** Considering that Joe left the company shortly after the angle started, probably not.
10th Jul '15 8:43:36 PM johnnyfog
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->''"The main event of the evening was to feature Sting vs. the man who was probably the hottest merchandise seller and most popular wrestler the company ever had, Jeff Hardy. So they turned Jeff heel. [[http://www.wrestlecrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/5aXpg294Bf-2.png Bang.]]"''
-->--'''''Website/{{WrestleCrap}}''''' phoning it in, [[http://www.wrestlecrap.com/inductions/induction-hardyvssting/ "89 Seconds That Tell The Tale of TNA"]]

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15th Jun '15 11:01:56 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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** His reasoning is that a match with a gimmick will always be inherently better than a match without a gimmick. True, that doesn't entirely answer why ''poles'' have to the gimmick in question, but it's a start.
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