History Headscratchers / SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet

16th Apr '18 9:14:57 AM SanjMerchant
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** The contest took place on Thursday and Bamford said "before the week is out." Todd has (as I would have) taken this as "before the end of this week" (ie sometime before Monday morning). Mrs. Lovett is probably trying (unsuccessfully) to calm Todd down by interpreting it as "before a full week has passed" (ie on or before the Thursday after the contest).
16th Apr '18 9:08:31 AM SanjMerchant
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** At least in the 1982 tour (as filmed), Sweeney appears to see through Johanna's bluff and simply wants to kill a witness. "Surely your cheek is as much in need of a razor now as before!" is simply Todd taunting her as he goes in for the kill.
23rd Mar '18 2:00:46 PM Overfiend
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** I doubt that. Todd was mad as all hell at Anthony for screwing up his initial murder attempt on Judge Turpin; if he didn't kill him then (or on any one of the multiple later occasions he'd later have), he wouldn't kill him then. Especially if Sweeney knew his daughter (who was already traumatized) was sweet on him. Todd was also grateful to Anthony for saving his life at sea. As far gone as Sweeney was by that point, I still find it extremely hard to believe he'd kill Anthony.

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** I doubt that. Todd was mad as all hell at Anthony for screwing up his initial murder attempt on Judge Turpin; if he didn't kill him then (or on any one of the multiple later occasions he'd later have), he wouldn't kill him then.in that instance either. Especially if Sweeney knew his daughter (who was already traumatized) was sweet on him. Todd was also grateful to Anthony for saving his life at sea. As far gone as Sweeney was by that point, I still find it extremely hard to believe he'd kill Anthony.
23rd Mar '18 1:59:49 PM Overfiend
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** I doubt that. Todd was mad as all hell at Anthony for screwing up his initial murder attempt on Judge Turpin; if he didn't kill him then (or on any one of the multiple later occasions he'd later have), he wouldn't kill him then. Especially if Sweeney knew his daughter (who was already traumatized) was sweet on him. Todd was also grateful to Anthony for saving his life at sea. As far gone as Sweeney was by that point, I still find it extremely hard to believe he'd kill Anthony.
20th Jan '18 8:27:31 PM momur
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** Or it could be a joke? That they went to the market on Monday and so Todd's only been waiting for one day? Considering the sense of humour throughout the script and the fact that the exchange leads into a song about the virtues of being patient, it wouldn't surprise me that it ''is'' a joke, albeit a subtle one.


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** Her reaction when she sees [[spoiler:Lucy's corpse]] is probably just due to panicking that Todd will recognise it. Still, I don't think it would surprise anyone if she ''did'' have a hand in Lucy being sent to Bedlam (but it's worth bearing in mind that Todd had been transported by that time and no one had any way of knowing that he'd come back).


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** Persuade her to wait in the shop until Anthony comes back, kill him, keep Johanna.
20th Jan '18 8:16:32 PM momur
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** Also, whose to say he ''hasn't'' got a plan should their visits coincide? He's now got a ''perfect'' opportunity handed to him to get Johanna back. He knows the Judge hates Anthony and what better way to get the Judge to trust him completely than by dealing with him? Then, kill the Judge and for added bonus, Todd now has Johanna back. Or, the most likely explanation for it, the reason the Judge left the first time was because Anthony barged in unexpectedly and the Judge didn't know the two were "friends". Telling the Judge that Anthony would bring Johanna to his shop negates the possibility of that happening a second time just in case their visits ''did'' coincide.
20th Jan '18 7:55:17 PM momur
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** In all honesty, it depends entirely on how the two characters are played in any given production as to whether or not the audience is left thinking they'll have a happy ending. Objectively, yes they do since they lead a couple of policemen to the cellar and find Toby - one can assume after that, they happily leave London together. However, there are so many variations with how the two of them can be portrayed (especially Johanna) that you'll probably come away with a different ending for them with every different production you see.
9th Jan '18 6:37:25 AM GothicProphet
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* What would Sweeney do if he had recognized his daughter ?

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\n* What would Sweeney do if he had recognized his daughter ??
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21st Dec '17 12:46:39 PM Mirarini
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* Mrs. Lovett seems REALLY distraught at the sight of [[spoiler: Lucy's corpse]]. Exactly how much did she have to do with the poor woman's fate? She has an excuse for her use of ExactWords about Lucy ("Would Sweeney ''really'' want to know that's how she ended up?"). Did she somehow have a hand in Lucy being sent to Bedlam instead of a hospital to [[spoiler: MurderTheHypotenuse?]]

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* Mrs. Lovett seems REALLY distraught at the sight of [[spoiler: Lucy's corpse]]. Exactly how much did she have to do with the poor woman's fate? She has an excuse for her use of ExactWords about Lucy ("Would Sweeney ''really'' want to know that's how she ended up?"). Did she somehow have a hand in Lucy being sent to Bedlam instead of a hospital to [[spoiler: MurderTheHypotenuse?]]MurderTheHypotenuse?]]

*What would Sweeney do if he had recognized his daughter ?
29th Sep '17 11:36:31 AM CluedoSir
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*The film's barbershop/pie-shop complex; where are the bodies falling through exactly? It's clear Todd's shop is directly above Mrs. Lovett's and never do we see any chute in the middle of her shop. Surely Todd wouldn't have bodies drop directly through her shop in plain sight of her customers!
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